Free Virtual Computer
Donavan Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond
G.ho.st provides every person in the world with a free Virtual Computer
(VC). Like a Windows PC, or Mac, the VC is a personal computing
environment which includes your desktop, your personal settings, your
files and your choice of software applications. But unlike a PC, your VC
is not installed on one physical computer - instead it is stored in
professional data centers across the Internet cloud, and is accessed
from any Internet browser in the world. From any computer, open the
browser toG.ho.st , enter your username and password, and continue using
your VC from exactly the state you last left it in.
Your G.ho.st VC has several advantages over a PC ::
* Available from any browser in the world instead of being installed
on one physical machine.
* The operating system, many apps, and the first 5GB of data storage
and 3GB of email storage are absolutely free.
* Software (namely Web-based software) can be run without
installation.
* The computer is always up-to-date, secure and backed up with no
action or cost on your part.
* The G.ho.st VC manages all your Web logins and all your web
'stuff' (e.g. files on different web services).
* Because it is online, the G.ho.st VC provides new possibilities
for fun and collaboration, beyond what is available on a PC.
The G.ho.st VC is currently in public "alpha" - the VC is already stable
and usable although it does not yet have a complete set of applications,
services and widgets associated with it and there are a few bugs. The
bugs will be fixed and application added rapidly over the coming weeks.
Me.Here
That G.Ho.St looks great.
Do you have have a link for the alpha version?
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Donavan Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond
It is the Alpha version, you Stupid Fukk.
spamme0
Name calling...that helps...
wendell seal
>>> That G.Ho.St looks great.
>>>
>>> Do you have have a link for the alpha version?
>>
>> It is the Alpha version, you Stupid Fukk.
>
> Name calling...that helps...
They called names and were wrong. His name was Berry not Barry. Berry as
in black not as in Bonds.
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Boy out of jail. Then he fled. A fugitive. Ain't that some shit?
k
"Donavan Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond"
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| http://g.ho.st
|
| G.ho.st provides every person in the world with a free Virtual Computer
| (VC). Like a Windows PC, or Mac, the VC is a personal computing
etc re cloud computing
Sounds a lot like GoPC -
http://www.gopc.net/
been around a while
I like it :)
Craig
For what it's worth, so-called "web desktops" are a decent look at where
Microsoft is trying to take us with "Azure."
As with Azure, Ghost & GoPC are proprietary and, in fact, Ghost goes as
far as to use Flash as its engine(!) Talking about "locked in," I guess
we can expect Azure to embrace us with Silverlight.
If any of you are interested about how these guys look & feel, etc, the
two open source web desktops I can recommend trying are: eyeOS &
DesktopTwo (aka WebOS). I'm not saying, btw, that I recommend web
desktops (unless you've specific needs and your own server). But, for a
test-drive, these guys will give you the real deal.
[A note of caution: although the product is open source, DesktopTwo's
company doesn't seem to have posted either the license or a privacy
policy. My guess is they're just a tad new at this.]
hth,
-Craig
DesktopTwo (beta) <http://sapotek.com/>
EyeOS v1.7 <http://eyeos.org>
Donavan Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond
> For what it's worth, so-called "web desktops" are a decent look at where
> Microsoft is trying to take us with "Azure."
>
> As with Azure, Ghost & GoPC are proprietary and, in fact, Ghost goes as
> far as to use Flash as its engine(!) Talking about "locked in," I guess
> we can expect Azure to embrace us with Silverlight.
>
> If any of you are interested about how these guys look & feel, etc, the
> two open source web desktops I can recommend trying are: eyeOS &
> DesktopTwo (aka WebOS). I'm not saying, btw, that I recommend web
> desktops (unless you've specific needs and your own server). But, for a
> test-drive, these guys will give you the real deal.
>
> [A note of caution: although the product is open source, DesktopTwo's
> company doesn't seem to have posted either the license or a privacy
> policy. My guess is they're just a tad new at this.]
>
> hth,
> -Craig
>
> DesktopTwo (beta) <http://sapotek.com/>
> EyeOS v1.7 <http://eyeos.org>
Web desktops are have a very persuasive argument to make for the typical
User. One is the ability to xlink data (Zoho and Google Docs) for
instance which is how I go to Ghost.
OO 3 does not support the im/export of docs to either, the ext. crashes
the OO app on invoke. Zoho doesn't have a desktop "drag n drop" client
and Google Docs scans (client privacy concerns here).
Azure and Windows 7 (which btw is pretty slick) are locking into each
other and as hi speed connectivity increases in use and speed, with a
concomitant decrease in cost, web apps, SaSE and other on line services
have a hyooge future.
nospam
All of these nice web desktops demand that the internet is running
smoothlessly. and you need a broadband connection.
I tried the google apps and even with a rapid broadband connection there
often is a delay in changing a column, typing, etc. So, it's no
replacement for a office desktop, also as the functions for text
treatment or spreadsheets seem more limited than the desktop versions.
The only real advantage to me seems is when being mobile and you to
foreign office or an internet café where the host provide a pc and an
internet link you can work with your environment.
Do I miss something crucial ?
As usually I carry my notebook with me ...
- ft
Craig
> On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:58:49 -0800, Craig wrote:
>
>> For what it's worth, so-called "web desktops" are a decent look at where
>> Microsoft is trying to take us with "Azure."
>>
>> As with Azure, Ghost & GoPC are proprietary and, in fact, Ghost goes as
>> far as to use Flash as its engine(!) Talking about "locked in," I guess
>> we can expect Azure to embrace us with Silverlight.
>>
>> If any of you are interested about how these guys look & feel, etc, the
>> two open source web desktops I can recommend trying are: eyeOS &
>> DesktopTwo (aka WebOS). I'm not saying, btw, that I recommend web
>> desktops (unless you've specific needs and your own server). But, for a
>> test-drive, these guys will give you the real deal.
>>
>> [A note of caution: although the product is open source, DesktopTwo's
>> company doesn't seem to have posted either the license or a privacy
>> policy. My guess is they're just a tad new at this.]
>>
>> hth,
>> -Craig
>>
>> DesktopTwo (beta) <http://sapotek.com/>
>> EyeOS v1.7 <http://eyeos.org>
>
> Web desktops are have a very persuasive argument to make for the typical
> User.
Damned straight. The only thing that makes me balk is a question of
ownership. Who owns the server & software stack? If it's me (or my
representative), we're good.
If it's Micro- "we shut u off cause u might be doing something bad"
-soft, nope. Same with Goo- "perennial beta, oops that critical
feature's no longer here" -gle.
> One is the ability to xlink data (Zoho and Google Docs) for
> instance which is how I go to Ghost.
Interesting.
>
> Azure and Windows 7 (which btw is pretty slick) are locking into each
> other and as hi speed connectivity increases in use and speed, with a
> concomitant decrease in cost, web apps, SaSE and other on line services
> have a hyooge future.
Agreed. But as long as MS continues w/it's DRM & piracy policies, I'll
do what I can to have a different (if not hyoooge) future.
-Craig
Craig
> Craig wrote:
>> k wrote:
>>> "Donavan Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond"
>>> <chopofftheDO...@GMAIL.COMsmallletters> wrote in message
>>> news:1vtayf4odv7f5$.18dhp0bkwo7y4.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> | http://g.ho.st
>>> |
>>> | G.ho.st provides every person in the world with a free Virtual
>>> Computer
>>> | (VC). Like a Windows PC, or Mac, the VC is a personal computing
>>>
>>> etc re cloud computing
>>>
>>> Sounds a lot like GoPC -
>>> http://www.gopc.net/
>>>
>>> been around a while
>>>
>>> I like it :)
>>>
>>
>> For what it's worth, so-called "web desktops" are a decent look at
>> where Microsoft is trying to take us with "Azure."
>>
>> the two open source web desktops I can recommend trying are: eyeOS &
>> DesktopTwo (aka WebOS).
>>
>> company doesn't seem to have posted either the license or a privacy
>> policy. My guess is they're just a tad new at this.]
>>
>> EyeOS v1.7 <http://eyeos.org>
>
> All of these nice web desktops demand that the internet is running
> smoothlessly. and you need a broadband connection.
> I tried the google apps and even with a rapid broadband connection there
> often is a delay in changing a column, typing, etc. So, it's no
> replacement for a office desktop, also as the functions for text
> treatment or spreadsheets seem more limited than the desktop versions.
>
> The only real advantage to me seems is when being mobile and you to
> foreign office or an internet café where the host provide a pc and an
> internet link you can work with your environment.
>
> Do I miss something crucial ?
Ach. "Crucial?" Nah, not in my book. But there are two modifiers...
First is the advent of so-called "rich internet apps," which can operate
& store data locally until reconnection.
The second concerns a local deployment. Imagine you've a LAN or
/intranet/ situation. Say you have a family with a passel of kids or a
small-medium business. Imagine how bloody easy it'd be to administer
that. You set up your EyeOS server in the closet and, presto: one-stop
admin'ing. And, on that kind of topology, latency wouldn't have to
affect performance.
>
> As usually I carry my notebook with me ...
Me too. But, I'm looking forward to chucking my desktop & lappy for an
android- or symbian-based "smart phone." Maybe in another year or two...
-Craig
Donavan Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond
>>> hth,
>>> -Craig
>>>
>>> DesktopTwo (beta) <http://sapotek.com/>
>>> EyeOS v1.7 <http://eyeos.org>
>>
>> Web desktops are have a very persuasive argument to make for the typical
>> User.
>
> Damned straight. The only thing that makes me balk is a question of
> ownership. Who owns the server & software stack? If it's me (or my
> representative), we're good.
>
> If it's Micro- "we shut u off cause u might be doing something bad"
> -soft, nope. Same with Goo- "perennial beta, oops that critical
> feature's no longer here" -gle.
Ownership is going to be by license, right of use, the TOS will be such
that they can assuredly cut you off. It will be fun to see if copies of
data are the standard in case that happens. By std I mean that there is
an automatic archival function that can always be located by the User.
This would have to be online otherwise multiple PC access makes little
sense.
Their '05 acquisition of FolderShare technology was all about Azure
(imho), access information anytime, anywhere and on multiple devices.
Expect FS to be folded in so if you do get cut from web app access, you
can still buy a license as we do today for local install.
Donavan Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond
> All of these nice web desktops demand that the internet is running
> smoothlessly. and you need a broadband connection.
> I tried the google apps and even with a rapid broadband connection there
> often is a delay in changing a column, typing, etc. So, it's no
> replacement for a office desktop, also as the functions for text
> treatment or spreadsheets seem more limited than the desktop versions.
You're spoiled, think back to apps on floppies and data storage, it is
faster than that. lol
> The only real advantage to me seems is when being mobile and you to
> foreign office or an internet café where the host provide a pc and an
> internet link you can work with your environment.
>
> Do I miss something crucial ?
>
> As usually I carry my notebook with me ...
>
> - ft
No but I think the bigger portion of the market is the work-at-work and
work-at-home user. Twin sets of apps is a real licensing and cost
nightmare.
Donavan Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond
>> Do I miss something crucial ?
>
> Ach. "Crucial?" Nah, not in my book. But there are two modifiers...
>
> First is the advent of so-called "rich internet apps," which can operate
> & store data locally until reconnection.
Once you ave logged in, why not pull the apps down to local in a VM
environ? Log out, clean up, move on.
As we speak
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Donavan Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond
> The second concerns a local deployment. Imagine you've a LAN or
> /intranet/ situation. Say you have a family with a passel of kids or a
> small-medium business. Imagine how bloody easy it'd be to administer
> that. You set up your EyeOS server in the closet and, presto: one-stop
> admin'ing. And, on that kind of topology, latency wouldn't have to
> affect performance.
And get the hell off Windows Workgroups Lans. Ugh!
>> As usually I carry my notebook with me ...
>
> Me too. But, I'm looking forward to chucking my desktop & lappy for an
> android- or symbian-based "smart phone." Maybe in another year or two...
>
> -Craig
Will they have twin 20" monitors like my Apples?
Craig
Puh-lease;
We don't talk about our "twins" in public forums.
But, yea, I wanna a smart phone that has video-out for monitors. Along
w/bluetooth for the keyboard, mouse & printer <shrug> why not?
Craig "Mini-Me"
Me.Here
Don't be too concerned. The sockpuppet responded to a forgery so it
doesn't matter. Looks like Ari and Franklin are at it again.
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John Stubbings
And your cohort Hummingbird.
Me.Here
I haven't seen him sockpuppetting or forging anyone, you on the other
hand, seem to have been caught doing it:
<gffk6h...@localhost.127.0.0.1>
Sad to see you've lowered yourself to Ari's and Franklins's level.
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spamme0
TECHNOLOGY
Back in the old days, we had rs232 text terminals connected to mainframe
computers.
The pipe was so small that graphics terminals were developed to tightly
couple graphics to the display.
Desktop workstations were developed to couple the computation more tightly
to the display.
But then the pipe got bigger and it became useful to develop "thin clients"
to put the computation back on the mainframe.
Then wireless made the pipe VERY small and devices got smarter.
Now, as wireless broadband develops, it becomes useful to shift the
computation back to the mainframe.
Just another cycle in the pipe...
And at every cycle, more people become involved and more profit is made
at MY expense.
MONEY
Vendors always try to lock you into their product.
Back in the old days, files were distributed in MSWord format.
And M$ had the habit of changing the format every version.
If you wanted to work with the other guy's file, you had to
upgrade your copy of OFFICE. Fortunately, PDF broke that stranglehold.
Most people can do everything they need with office95 or openoffice.
Drug companies are not interested in cures. A cured patient is no longer
a customer. They want expensive long-term maintenance therapies that
keep you coming back. A CURE for AIDS or any other major chronic
disease would be a disaster for the drug companies.
Ditto for software. Software that you sell once is nice, but it's better
to get a monthly check for using the software. And if the customer is
locked in, that pesky and expensive need to innovate goes away.
Take a look at the gopc webpage. For free you get basically nothing.
Firefox web browser. And you need a web browser to access the web browser.
If you really want anything useful it costs up to $30/month...EACH.
And if you have six kids, that adds up.
M$ wants a piece (well, all) of this pie. And since it will eat into
their sw sales, they must go for it.
So, who benefits?
The carriers sell you more bandwidth.
The web computing suppliers sell you storage and access.
What do I get out of it?
Can't see ANY benefit and big cost downside.
Nobody is interested in providing more service or less cost for ME.
And since this will be dominated by the giant carriers and M$ and Google,
it will be impossible for a small entrepreneur to provide lower cost
alternatives.
In my lifetime, I expect my computer will have a card slot.
"Insert debit card to login". And the sum of my debits will be WAY
more than what I currently pay for more local computing.
It's all about the Benjamins.
Donavan Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond
>>> Don't be too concerned. The sockpuppet responded to a forgery so it
>>> doesn't matter. Looks like Ari and Franklin are at it again.
>>
>> And your cohort Hummingbird.
>
> I haven't seen him sockpuppetting or forging anyone, you on the other
> hand, seem to have been caught doing it:
>
> <gffk6h...@localhost.127.0.0.1>
>
> Sad to see you've lowered yourself to Ari's and Franklins's level.
sURE IS.
bwahahahahahahah
Franklin
>
> I haven't seen [Hummingbird] sockpuppetting or forging anyone,
>
That's a good joke!
nospam
If you use open source cost is no argument.
Webdesktops need a working internet connection. and as net breakdowns
will always exist the home/office desktop will be a more robust
installation.
But I learned here that you might have several pcs to administer and
then this might be more interesting. Didin't see that.
Remains the issue of privacy. I'd like to control who reads my texts.
-ft
nospam
You might also think of the new video beamer gadgets which send the
screen picture to the wall.
Or on head-up displays integrated into your spectacles.
John Stubbings
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CAUGHT AGAIN ME.HERE
Donavan Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond
>>>>> As usually I carry my notebook with me ...
>>>> Me too. But, I'm looking forward to chucking my desktop & lappy for
>>>> an android- or symbian-based "smart phone." Maybe in another year or
>>>> two...
>>>>
>>>> -Craig
>>>
>>> Will they have twin 20" monitors like my Apples?
>>
>> Puh-lease;
>>
>> We don't talk about our "twins" in public forums.
>>
>> But, yea, I wanna a smart phone that has video-out for monitors. Along
>> w/bluetooth for the keyboard, mouse & printer <shrug> why not?
>>
>> Craig "Mini-Me"
>
> You might also think of the new video beamer gadgets which send the
> screen picture to the wall.
>
> Or on head-up displays integrated into your spectacles.
To hell, go with intracranial implants !
Donavan Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond
> Donavan Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:04:05 +0100, nospam wrote:
>>
>> No but I think the bigger portion of the market is the work-at-work and
>> work-at-home user. Twin sets of apps is a real licensing and cost
>> nightmare.
>
> If you use open source cost is no argument.
True but not a typical USA corporate choice.
> Webdesktops need a working internet connection. and as net breakdowns
> will always exist the home/office desktop will be a more robust
> installation.
>
> But I learned here that you might have several pcs to administer and
> then this might be more interesting. Didin't see that.
>
> Remains the issue of privacy. I'd like to control who reads my texts.
>
> -ft
Can't argue with that but privacy isn't a real concern, sadly, to a lot
of the market that will use web desktop apps.
WTS there should be a way to protect via encryption but...........
nospam
who knows who already has one implanted ??
nospam
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 00:00:09 +0100, nospam wrote:
>
>> Donavan Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond wrote:
>>> On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:04:05 +0100, nospam wrote:
>>>
>>> No but I think the bigger portion of the market is the work-at-work and
>>> work-at-home user. Twin sets of apps is a real licensing and cost
>>> nightmare.
>> If you use open source cost is no argument.
>
> True but not a typical USA corporate choice.
>
>> Webdesktops need a working internet connection. and as net breakdowns
>> will always exist the home/office desktop will be a more robust
>> installation.
>>
>> But I learned here that you might have several pcs to administer and
>> then this might be more interesting. Didin't see that.
>>
>> Remains the issue of privacy. I'd like to control who reads my texts.
>>
>> -ft
>
> Can't argue with that but privacy isn't a real concern, sadly, to a lot
> of the market that will use web desktop apps.
>
this sounds "American" to me : we all like to be transparent.