What happens when your storage is full? I'm about filled up in my All
Mail folder in gmail. Will it automatically erase the oldest messages
as more space is required?
Thanks.
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garage is best place to get him:::
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Shouldn't you also worry about your ISP? :)
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Well, if you'd done nothing evil, why worried about ghosts knocking your
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Amazing! You've filled up 7 GB of storage space?I maintain a daily
joke list with text and video jokes. Been using my Gmail account for
at least 5 years to store the stuff and have NEVER come close to even
30% of the capacity.
By the way, if anyone wants to receive good jokes send me a message.
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~ Ogden Nash
> What happens when your storage is full?
explodes
> Why in the world would anyone use Gmail as their prime
> email "client" as you obviously do?
uh b/c it's the best?
duh
I use gmail. Numerous ways.
> What happens when your storage is full?
I've never filled my storage, but I know what happens. Incoming mail
will bounce. Gmail will offer to sell you some more storage.
> I'm about filled up in my All
> Mail folder in gmail.
You can buy some more storage, delete some, forward to another account,
gmail or otherwise.
> Will it automatically erase the oldest messages
> as more space is required?
The only old messages which will be auto deleted will be those in the
Spam folder.
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>I have to ask. Why in the world would anyone use Gmail as their prime
>email "client" as you obviously do?
Google is no worse than any.
Small local ISP's are more likely to get you spied upon by locals
that may know you.
For someone to spy on my Google account, they would have to find me
among 500 million other Google users, and even then my e-mail would
bore them to tears.
As always, never put anything personal, private, or critical on the
Internet.
GMail has the best spam filter I have ever seen. If you don't use at
least that part of it, you're missing out.
> 'POKO' wrote thus:
>
> >Jeffrey,
> >I have to ask. Why in the world would anyone use Gmail as their prime
> >email "client" as you obviously do?
>
> 1. Millions of people use webmail as their prime e-mail contact.
> When they are out and about, nothing needs to change.
> Many don't even know about e-mail clients.
I submit that popularity and ignorance never really were any sort of
valid criteria for judging something.
>
> 2. Gmail has a neat feature whereby you can auto-forward e-mails
> to your ISP e-mail account, thereby reducing regular logging on
Most mail servers, web or otherwise, have this same auto-forward
feature. Being the same mechanism that gets mail from the front
door to your local mail box it's pretty much the standard build of
most mail server software. And there's scores of third party
services that will collect and forward mail betwen accounts if a
lazy admin hasn't made that functionality publicly available.
>
> 3. Webmail provides a useful shield to protect your ISP e-mail
> account from misuse/abuse/spam etc.
It's a logical fallacy to herald the abuse of one thing as a
"feature" that protects an identical thing from the same abuse.
If you're playing the disposable address card here, you should
also be aware that virtually every ISP on the planet offers
multiple, user configurable email addresses. It's literally as
easy as accessing webmail to add/delete throwaway addresses at your
own ISP as you need them.
And from the FWIW department, Google's pre-configured anti-whatever
measures are abysmaly lacking. They're far too aggressive in some
scenarios and totally ineffective in others. They not only usurp
legitimate communications, they're an easy venue for the
originators of spam/abuse and such. That is why there's an ever
growing number of services and individuals simply discarding
everything tainted by Google.
> 4. Gmail does not inject your IP Address into the Headers. That
> is unimportant to a vast majority of people but there are a
> lot of nutters who find such info interesting or useful.
> Several of them post on ACF.
Wrong! Google's mail servers absolutely do forward the sender's IP
address in the clear, in every message they send.
You're not doing so well here. Maybe you should go back to the
popularity and ignorance thing. ;)
Lots of weird unjustified antiquated ideas from peeps in this group.
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> 4. Gmail does not inject your IP Address into the Headers.
yeah it does which is how BootJack Ron May got Ari's Comcast IP address
from Franklin the Pilot for LUARTS. problem was, it don't matter when
you got a $5,000/mo bandwidth commitment. ISPs tend to like the biz and
tell BootJack's to go fuck themselves :) it was fun watching the
pinheads dance tho.
> Says Bare Buttocks
you're full of shit
> My Thunderbird files are sitting on my
> harddrive which gives me "some" feeling of security. Unencrypted, but
> sitting where I deem them secure from prying eyes. Yeah, I'm aware
> everything that gets typed into an email is open season, but why make it
> easier for them?
i don't see how you could. you have them stored in /the/ most insecure
place prolly have a second copy sitting on your POP server and what's
the bet that you don't use SSL or encryption on pass-thru?
$1000 to a penny?
>>Wrong! Google's mail servers absolutely do forward the sender's IP
>>address in the clear, in every message they send.
>
> I have tested gmail several times and never once found an IP
> address in an e-mail sent to myself. EVEN IF it was injected, I
> could easily logon through TOR or another proxy and get round it.
aren't many proxies Google allows anymore
>> 4. Gmail does not inject your IP Address into the Headers. That
>> is unimportant to a vast majority of people but there are a
>> lot of nutters who find such info interesting or useful.
>> Several of them post on ACF.
>
> Wrong! Google's mail servers absolutely do forward the sender's IP
> address in the clear, in every message they send.
If you email from gmail's webmail, your connectivity IP does *not*
appear in the Received tracelines or anywhere else. That is not a
common feature for most webmails, which *do* put the connectivity IP
either in the traceline or in a 'special' X-line.
If you email via/using gmail's smtp server instead of the webmailer,
your connectivity IP *does* appear in the traceline.
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> Don't misunderstand my point, which is that many people use
> webmail for perfectly good reasons.
This idea that webmail sux and email clients rool and versa vice is a
bunch of haughty bullshit. What works, werkz who gives a flying fuck?
>
> POKO <pok...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>My Thunderbird files are sitting on my
>>harddrive which gives me "some" feeling of security. Unencrypted, but
>>sitting where I deem them secure from prying eyes. Yeah, I'm aware
>>everything that gets typed into an email is open season, but why make
>>it easier for them?
> Unless your local email client is set to remove messages from the
> server as they're retrieved, they remain until you explicitly remove
> them. In that sense, there's no difference between your ISP's POP3
> service and gmail except the tracking for advertising purposes. My
> purpose for shunning gmail, yahoo, and the like, is the explicit
> declaration in TOS of their intent to use message content for their
> own (commercial) purposes. Nothing Google offers online and none of
> its software such as sketchup, chrome, etc. is actually free: They all
> are instruments for information-gathering passing themselves as useful
> programs. The something-for-nothing mindset of many computer users
> leaves them impervious to the realization that Google is by, for, and
> about efficiently delivering advertising 24/7; in my view, those folks
> deserve what they get. It is difficult enough to avoid subversion by
> legitimate W3 sites that, without notice, report traffic to Google, et
> al, but to deliberately install one of Google's local trojans or to
> use its "free" web-based services and software simply is stupid, IMO.
> Most ISPs nowadays provide multiple POP3 email accounts as part
> of
> basic access and offer additional storage for little-or-nothing. It is
> simple enough to set one up as a spam depository/repository. ...oops;
> that wouldn't be "free", would it?
>
Heh, it's amazing to me how many of you live in the USA and shun
capitalism which is what has made this country so rich and desirable.
Good choice...strive to stay happy...it will improve your posts.
Time to do something about your government then. My wife is Canadian.
She understands the difference. Of course, in a few years, there will be
less difference won't there. Maybe we should all go to Costa Rica.
> Heh, it's amazing to me how many of you live in the USA and shun
> capitalism which is what has made this country so rich and desirable.
here i thot it was drug smuggling <slap head>
I already got that message. I'd like to erase all messages before a
certain date, but I can't find a way to filter the messages by date.
There's something like "All messages within so many days of today" but
that's exactly the opposite of what I want.
Sheesh.
Frankly, I don't write much of anything that makes any difference. And
gmail serves me well.
I'm not aware that any other free mail servers do as well as gmail does
-- a neighbor has Yahoo, and tried to have Thunderbird download the
mail, only to be told that Yahoo doesn't offer free pop service.
All the irritations....
Gmail has been relatively painless. I don't know that anyone has been
harmed. I am indeed alarmed at google's attempt to wrest control of the
world from Microsoft -- they're in danger of becoming the next
abomination on the computer scene <grin>. But, for now, until something
better comes up, I'll stick with gmail.
Assuming you're not yanking everybody's chain and no offense intended,
that's the standard argument from sheep who allow their governments to
become dictatorships ala Nazi Germany. Eventually it always gets to the
point where even doing nothing wrong (and eventually that becomes
IMpossible) isn't good enough.
Remember Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. I'm sure some of the "new people"
his gang executed for no reason said exactly the same thing you just did.
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trial or web wares OR warez for me, please.
Yup, filled it up! I was hoping they'd expand it, but they want bucks
to do that.
Ach, terrorist!!!! <grin>
Thanks for the info!
I paid $5.00/per year for extra GMail storage. Not FREE but close to
it.
> I paid $5.00/per year for extra GMail storage. Not FREE but close to
> it.
In the new cheaper storage tiers since 2009 Nov, $5/y will get you an
additional 20G added to the free which is up to 7.44G. That seems to be
all the email anyone would want to store.
For $20/y, you get 80G which is also useful for storing other
googlestuff such as Picassa or docs or whatever.
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Works for me. Thx Guy.
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> 'N4469P' wrote thus:
> Ooh, I didn't know that. I'll do some poking around ;-)
i hanven't but i do know that they keep a running score on TOR exit
nodes.
> 'N4469P' wrote thus:
>
>>On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:05:35 +0000, hummingbird wrote:
>>
>>> 4. Gmail does not inject your IP Address into the Headers.
>>
>>yeah it does which is how BootJack Ron May got Ari's Comcast IP address
>>from Franklin the Pilot for LUARTS. problem was, it don't matter when
>>you got a $5,000/mo bandwidth commitment. ISPs tend to like the biz and
>>tell BootJack's to go fuck themselves :) it was fun watching the
>>pinheads dance tho.
>
> Mike Easter has posted to say that gmail doesn't inject IPs if the
> user posts via their webmail server but does if using smtp.
>
> I guess JB must be using/referring to smtp.
that's right you have to pass through their smtp.
> Apart from that, I wasn't aware that our LART King Ron May had
> been up to his tricks again and that Franklin was involved. Am I
> surprised? Those two have an unhealthy interest in other peoples'
> IP addies. They're into silencing people who disagree with them.
or expose them the little Nazi rats they are.
> Here's Franklin (posting up on ukpm as hummingbird) asking another
> poster if he knows MY IP Address (I post as aracari over there):
>
> "James, do you have Aracari's IP address?"
> http://groups.google.com/group/uk.politics.misc/msg/0c98e3e7af12eb46
>
> To which James replied:
>
> "Why would I want that?"
> http://groups.google.com/group/uk.politics.misc/msg/8a69c65416815799
>
> Later on, Franklin asserted with great conviction on ukpm that the
> name 'hummingbird' on ACF belonged to HIM and that I had stolen
> it from him, forcing him to post using the name Franklin.
>
> You couldn't make this up!
lol
been there, done that. and you?
Wonderful -- worked fine!!!
I really appreciate the help.
> Just tested gmail OK using TOR. I was able to logon and send an
> e-mail to one of my ISP accounts which contains no user IP addy.
Depending on what you are trying to conceal...
... there is a 'problem'/condition/feature of gmail that partially
interferes with your using a bogus address in its webmail From.
Gmail will allow you to put an alternative address in there - the From,
but the headers will show the accountname/address that the mail you sent
came from. Just now I forget what that line with the account's 'true'
address is called.
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If you were invisible, how could someone else help you out when you were
in trouble? How could your boss pay you salaries over internet?
I have no interest in internet-invisibility. And I have no idea why
people keep asking for that.
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Major client? Or major terrorist? :)
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Do you have a full-time in a company? Why don't you question your boss?
Are you trying to hide yourself from your government in reality as well?
I wonder what your country is....
Could you guarantee that you would never attack another person on this
planet, when you asked for internet-invisibility?
You are asking everyone to protect you, Your Majesty.... :)
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> "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance"
> .....Thomas Jefferson
*Eternally Vigilant - Never Forget*
Fukken aye'
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> Just tested gmail OK using TOR. I was able to logon and send an
> e-mail to one of my ISP accounts which contains no user IP addy.
>
> All is well at the moment... :-)
fails in several states in the US. ???
> I wrote earlier that gmail does not inject the user's IP addy in
> outgoing e-mails but JB said it does. I re-tested it tonight and
> it does not. That may be for the reason you posted (gmail's
> webmail server -vs- smtp server, I dunno). But in my case, it
> definitely does not include my IP addy in outgoing e-mails.
Expected webmail result.
> Also, N4469P posted that gmail are progressively blocking access
> to gmail thru TOR nodes, so I powered up TOR and was able to
> access gmail and send an e-mail to one of my ISP e-mail addies.
> It arrived ok ...and does not contain an IP addy in the headers.
failed TOR/TBird using gmail smtp, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
> I would only need to access gmail via TOR IF gmail began injecting
> IP addies into outgoing e-mails.
and if you want to have multiple gmail accounts without cross-indexing
your static IP address.
> That's quite possible methinks...
> I have noticed with TOR that whenever I use it, the IPs of the
> nodes used are almost always in Europe or Scandy - and they change
> frequently during usage. I assume that something routes European
> users that way and US users are routed via US nodes. It might be
> the latter that Google are progressively blocking?
TOR should be randomly selecting tunnel circuits however there are
considerably more exit nodes run outside the US, it is much easier for
Google to block TOR simply by hit count from the IP address in the US.
We have more trafficv thru fewer nodes so that traffic jumpstarts
Google's 403 blocking.
We don't get gmail/google CAPTCHA images with TOR which is there to
eliminate IP blocking. so no access.
There is nothing fundamental to onion routing tech that would allow or
encourage user selection of routing for obvious reasons. Which is why
after 25 years you still can't preselct an exit node in TOR.
That's exactly why you should make sure that only good people got
recruited by your Government and your Military!!
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Wanna quote President John F. Kennedy?
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You verrily have no idea of what you are talking about. Security is not
onions or strange babble. I advise you to refomat the disk and reinstall
Windows on a regular basis, never store important information, and don't
use the Internet unless necessary. You will never have problems.
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> 'Man-wai Chang to The Door (24000bps)' wrote thus:
>
>>> Because your private information (Internet or other) will be
>>> abused by big socialist governments and big money, if you let
>>> them have it. And sadly, fascism is on the rise across the world.
>>> The culture of privacy in the West goes back further than Asia.
>>
>>That's exactly why you should make sure that only good people got
>>recruited by your Government and your Military!!
>
> True, but ordinary people do not control the electoral process
> in their countries and it attracts people who are often dishonest
> and corrupt with agendas. Who controls the process in China/HK?
The Chinese of course.
> I have noticed with TOR that whenever I use it, the IPs of the
> nodes used are almost always in Europe or Scandy - and they change
> frequently during usage. I assume that something routes European
> users that way and US users are routed via US nodes. It might be
> the latter that Google are progressively blocking?
Rubbish. There's no such "routing" going on of any of the type your
silly self believes there is because you're too dumb to understand
what's *really* taking place, and Google is doing nothing of the
sort.
This is another one of your idiotic "passwords must be stored in
the encrypted file" screwups. Expect to be lambasted accordingly.
*snicker*
Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this
non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real
reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an
di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system
Per maggiori informazioni |For more info
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> You verrily have no idea of what you are talking about.
Coming from the spanktard who recomended Rising, and who thought
passwords were stored in their encrypted files... *laugh* that's
pretty ironic.
> Security is not
> onions or strange babble.
You wouldn't know security if it crawled up your ass and set fire
to your liver ya' ninny.
> I advise
<FLUSH>
That's all we need to know. Your "advice" is categorically
discard-able as the loony rantings of a pathetic wannabe.