Vista is still the lousiest OS ever
lisz...@aliceadsl.fr
Nobody want it, because it is full loaded with useless or harmful
shit. It is just good for being dropped to recycle/bin.
L
Bear Bottoms
news:6772e7a9-4706-4086...@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com:
> http://www.xitimonitor.com/fr-fr/equipement-internaute/systemes-d-explo
> itation-aout-2008/index-1-1-7-143.html
>
> Nobody want it, because it is full loaded with useless or harmful
> shit. It is just good for being dropped to recycle/bin.
>
> L
>
Yeah, Vista is the Edsel of OS's. M$ is releasing Windows 7 in August or
October. It is going to be Vista with some improvements...nothing
magnificent. They've extended XP sales for new computers till then. That
in itself is testiment to the Edsel.
--
Bear Bottoms
Freeware website: http://bearware.info
anon
> L
What is most appalling about Vista is that it cannot run some programs that ran
on 95 thru XP. Another absolutely disgusting thing about it is that some
computer are being manufactured to run Vista only, such as my new HP laptop. I
purchased XP and tried to install it on this new machine, but it couldn't
access the web. I would hope that Win7 would be offered to Vista suckers at a
discount price (preferably free), but I doubt that that will happen. You
should see the comments on the Vista Forum. Most of those people are swooning
over the thing. Any valid bad comment about Vista is usually met with 'It's
your fault!'.
hummingbird
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 15:10:56 +0000 (UTC) 'Bear Bottoms'
wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:
>lisz...@aliceadsl.fr wrote in
>news:6772e7a9-4706-4086...@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com:
>
>> http://www.xitimonitor.com/fr-fr/equipement-internaute/systemes-d-explo
>> itation-aout-2008/index-1-1-7-143.html
>>
>> Nobody want it, because it is full loaded with useless or harmful
>> shit. It is just good for being dropped to recycle/bin.
>Yeah, Vista is the Edsel of OS's. M$ is releasing Windows 7 in August or
>October. It is going to be Vista with some improvements...nothing
>magnificent.
Whereas W7 should be XP with some improvements, and Vista should
be allowed to float away into the sunset...
>They've extended XP sales for new computers till then. That
>in itself is testiment to the Edsel.
--
"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident"
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
Roger Hunt
s.com>, lisz...@aliceadsl.fr writes
>http://www.xitimonitor.com/fr-fr/equipement-internaute/systemes-d-exploitation-
>aout-2008/index-1-1-7-143.html
>
>Nobody want it, because it is full loaded with useless or harmful
>shit. It is just good for being dropped to recycle/bin.
>
obligingly eat itself, rather like a snake swallowing its tail, and
it will disappear with a "POP" and a puff of green smoke.
--
Roger Hunt
Ron
Why not either quote the article you briefly paraphrase or provide a link?
Today's edition of Windows Secrets - lead story
http://windowssecrets.com/paid/090108/
hth
Ron
Ron
LouB
Lou
John Stubbings
I moved whatever to the recycle bin and it promptly ate the contents,
burped and mutated into unix...
--
You gotta fight, for your right, to party...
The best of the best in Freeware
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/
There is no ACF FAQ...
Roger Hunt
<anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 16:13:27 +0000, Roger Hunt wrote:
>
>> In article <6772e7a9-4706-4086...@w39g2000prb.googlegroup
>> s.com>, lisz...@aliceadsl.fr writes
>>>http://www.xitimonitor.com/fr-fr/equipement-internaute/systemes-d-
>exploitation-
>>>aout-2008/index-1-1-7-143.html
>>>
>>>Nobody want it, because it is full loaded with useless or harmful
>>>shit. It is just good for being dropped to recycle/bin.
>>>
>> If you move Drive C: (or whatever) to the Recycle bin, Vista will
>> obligingly eat itself, rather like a snake swallowing its tail, and
>> it will disappear with a "POP" and a puff of green smoke.
>
>I moved whatever to the recycle bin and it promptly ate the contents,
>burped and mutated into unix...
>
into Win 95b and marked 4500000 disk clusters as bad.
--
Roger Hunt
tom
"anon" <an...@domain.invalid> wrote in message
news:gk57lq$506$1...@news.mixmin.net...
You
> should see the comments on the Vista Forum. Most of those people are
> swooning over the thing. Any valid bad comment about Vista is usually met
> with 'It's your fault!'.
>
Sounds like hp. I bought a hp machine in July, with vista, and it has been
absolute junk since I first plugged it in. hp won't fix it, doesn't know
what's wrong with it and only tells me to reformat. I went to hp's site and
was surprised to see ALL reviewers of this model absolutely "swooning" over
it. I left an objective, intelligent, detailed review of the actual problems
I've had with this POS and guess what, my review never showed up. Now I know
how they get 100% positive review of their junk. BTW, the hp printer I
bought at the same time is now only partially functional.
hummingbird
On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:55:38 -0600 'anon'
wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:
They're just the MS religious faithful, safely ignored.
John Stubbings
DOS>mv C:\ Recycle_Bin -nowetfart
should do ya
Thomas Stevens
> Bear Bottoms wrote:
>> lisz...@aliceadsl.fr wrote in
>> news:6772e7a9-4706-4086...@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.co
>> m:
>>
>>> http://www.xitimonitor.com/fr-fr/equipement-internaute/systemes-d-ex
>>> plo itation-aout-2008/index-1-1-7-143.html
>>>
>>> Nobody want it, because it is full loaded with useless or harmful
>>> shit. It is just good for being dropped to recycle/bin.
>>>
>>> L
>>>
>> Yeah, Vista is the Edsel of OS's. M$ is releasing Windows 7 in
>> August or October. It is going to be Vista with some
>> improvements...nothing magnificent. They've extended XP sales for
>> new computers till then. That in itself is testiment to the Edsel.
>>
>>
>>
> Bear,
> Why not either quote the article you briefly paraphrase or provide a
> link? Today's edition of Windows Secrets - lead story
> http://windowssecrets.com/paid/090108/
>
> hth
> Ron
BB is a stealing slimeball.
LOL!
---
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www.lioncity.net/buddhism/uploads/1156281126/gallery_1157190589.jpg
Roger Hunt
<anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 17:18:35 +0000, Roger Hunt wrote:
>
>> In article <gk5bak$59i$1...@news.motzarella.org>, John Stubbings
>> <anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>>>On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 16:13:27 +0000, Roger Hunt wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <6772e7a9-4706-4086...@w39g2000prb.googlegroup
>>>> s.com>, lisz...@aliceadsl.fr writes
>>>>>http://www.xitimonitor.com/fr-fr/equipement-internaute/systemes-d-
>>>exploitation-
>>>>>aout-2008/index-1-1-7-143.html
>>>>>
>>>>>Nobody want it, because it is full loaded with useless or harmful
>>>>>shit. It is just good for being dropped to recycle/bin.
>>>>>
>>>> If you move Drive C: (or whatever) to the Recycle bin, Vista will
>>>> obligingly eat itself, rather like a snake swallowing its tail, and
>>>> it will disappear with a "POP" and a puff of green smoke.
>>>
>>>I moved whatever to the recycle bin and it promptly ate the contents,
>>>burped and mutated into unix...
>>>
>> Strange ... won't work here - it ate it but then farted wetly, mutated
>> into Win 95b and marked 4500000 disk clusters as bad.
>
>DOS>mv C:\ Recycle_Bin -nowetfart
>
>should do ya
>
I used the "-reacharound" switch to fix the cluster problem too.
--
Roger Hunt
Thomas Stevens
> In article
> <6772e7a9-4706-4086...@w39g2000prb.googlegroup s.com>,
> lisz...@aliceadsl.fr writes
>>http://www.xitimonitor.com/fr-fr/equipement-internaute/systemes-d-expl
>>oitation- aout-2008/index-1-1-7-143.html
>>
>>Nobody want it, because it is full loaded with useless or harmful
>>shit. It is just good for being dropped to recycle/bin.
>>
> If you move Drive C: (or whatever) to the Recycle bin, Vista will
> obligingly eat itself, rather like a snake swallowing its tail, and
> it will disappear with a "POP" and a puff of green smoke.
It's very simple.
From what I've gathered, after perusing a dozen or so of your extremely
numerous posts, you strike me as being someone I definitely would not
want to be sitting next to on a long flight.
Everybody knows that Ari is your sockpuppet.
You're only deluding yourself. Get real.
---
Meet "Kinky" Friedman not "AracARI Silverstein"(name: Franklin Milbank)
www.lioncity.net/buddhism/uploads/1156281126/gallery_4141157190589.jpg
John Stubbings
cluster fuck
Bear Bottoms
news:5Z-dnWeryoAGuvvU...@earthlink.com:
> Bear Bottoms wrote:
>> lisz...@aliceadsl.fr wrote in
>> news:6772e7a9-4706-4086...@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com
>> :
>>
>>> http://www.xitimonitor.com/fr-fr/equipement-internaute/systemes-d-exp
>>> lo itation-aout-2008/index-1-1-7-143.html
>>>
>>> Nobody want it, because it is full loaded with useless or harmful
>>> shit. It is just good for being dropped to recycle/bin.
>>>
>>> L
>>>
>> Yeah, Vista is the Edsel of OS's. M$ is releasing Windows 7 in August
>> or October. It is going to be Vista with some improvements...nothing
>> magnificent. They've extended XP sales for new computers till then.
>> That in itself is testiment to the Edsel.
>>
>>
>>
> Bear,
> Why not either quote the article you briefly paraphrase or provide a
> link? Today's edition of Windows Secrets - lead story
> http://windowssecrets.com/paid/090108/
>
> hth
> Ron
I couldn't remember where I read it. I've read probably close to 100
articles today already...more to go...that is unless you want to believe
I created the dates, and told M$ when to release 7, etc.
Craig
Ron <rmoo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Ron wrote:
> > Bear Bottoms wrote:
> >> lisz...@aliceadsl.fr wrote in
> >> news:6772e7a9-4706-4086...@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com:
> >>> http://www.xitimonitor.com/fr-fr/equipement-internaute/systemes-d-explo
> >>> itation-aout-2008/index-1-1-7-143.html
> >>> Nobody want it, because it is full loaded with useless or harmful
> >>> shit. It is just good for being dropped to recycle/bin.
> >>>
> >>> L
> >>>
> >> Yeah, Vista is the Edsel of OS's. M$ is releasing Windows 7 in
> >> August or October. It is going to be Vista with some
> >> improvements...nothing magnificent. They've extended XP sales for
> >> new computers till then. That in itself is testiment to the Edsel.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > Bear,
> > Why not either quote the article you briefly paraphrase or provide
> > a link? Today's edition of Windows Secrets - lead story
...
> http://windowssecrets.com/comp/090108/
Too weird. You'd think by now that he'd... Nah. Thanks for the
reality check, Ron.
-Craig
Bear Bottoms
news:gk5eoq$oc$1...@nntp.motzarella.org:
> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 08:22:46 -0800
> Ron <rmoo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> Ron wrote:
>> > Bear Bottoms wrote:
>> >> lisz...@aliceadsl.fr wrote in
>> >> news:6772e7a9-4706-4086...@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.
>> >> com:
>> >>> http://www.xitimonitor.com/fr-fr/equipement-internaute/systemes-d-
>> >>> explo itation-aout-2008/index-1-1-7-143.html
>> >>> Nobody want it, because it is full loaded with useless or harmful
>> >>> shit. It is just good for being dropped to recycle/bin.
>> >>>
>> >>> L
>> >>>
>> >> Yeah, Vista is the Edsel of OS's. M$ is releasing Windows 7 in
>> >> August or October. It is going to be Vista with some
>> >> improvements...nothing magnificent. They've extended XP sales for
>> >> new computers till then. That in itself is testiment to the Edsel.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> > Bear,
>> > Why not either quote the article you briefly paraphrase or provide
>> > a link? Today's edition of Windows Secrets - lead story
> ...
>> http://windowssecrets.com/comp/090108/
>
> Too weird. You'd think by now that he'd... Nah. Thanks for the
> reality check, Ron.
>
> -Craig
In come the scum sharks. I tell M$ when to do these things and what to do
and they comply.
Daniel Mandic
>
> On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 15:10:56 +0000 (UTC) 'Bear Bottoms'
> wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:
>
> > lisz...@aliceadsl.fr wrote in
> > news:6772e7a9-4706-4086...@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.c
> > om:
> >
> >>
> http://www.xitimonitor.com/fr-fr/equipement-internaute/systemes-d-expl
> o >> itation-aout-2008/index-1-1-7-143.html >>
> >> Nobody want it, because it is full loaded with useless or harmful
> >> shit. It is just good for being dropped to recycle/bin.
>
>
> > Yeah, Vista is the Edsel of OS's. M$ is releasing Windows 7 in
> > August or October. It is going to be Vista with some
> > improvements...nothing magnificent.
>
> Whereas W7 should be XP with some improvements, and Vista should
> be allowed to float away into the sunset...
>
>
> > They've extended XP sales for new computers till then. That
> > in itself is testiment to the Edsel.
Hi hummingbird!
MS itself said (read in a newspaper), Vista was a kind of accident
(mishap) and they are actually focussing attention to Windows Seven.
~mid december...
Kind regards,
Daniel Mandic
anon
> Lou
HP Pavillion dv6000
hummingbird
On 08 Jan 2009 18:11:16 GMT 'Daniel Mandic'
wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:
>hummingbird wrote:
>
>>
>> On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 15:10:56 +0000 (UTC) 'Bear Bottoms'
>> wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:
>>
>> > lisz...@aliceadsl.fr wrote in
>> > news:6772e7a9-4706-4086...@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.c
>> > om:
>> >
>> >>
>> http://www.xitimonitor.com/fr-fr/equipement-internaute/systemes-d-expl
>> o >> itation-aout-2008/index-1-1-7-143.html >>
>> >> Nobody want it, because it is full loaded with useless or harmful
>> >> shit. It is just good for being dropped to recycle/bin.
>>
>>
>> > Yeah, Vista is the Edsel of OS's. M$ is releasing Windows 7 in
>> > August or October. It is going to be Vista with some
>> > improvements...nothing magnificent.
>> Whereas W7 should be XP with some improvements, and Vista should
>> be allowed to float away into the sunset...
>Hi hummingbird!
Hello Daniel, hope you are well and enjoying 2009 :-)
>MS itself said (read in a newspaper), Vista was a kind of accident
>(mishap) and they are actually focussing attention to Windows Seven.
>~mid december...
Meanwhile, I'll continue to use XP-Pro.
Daniel Mandic
> Hello Daniel, hope you are well and enjoying 2009 :-)
Yes, I hope you too.
> Meanwhile, I'll continue to use XP-Pro.
I can't praise XP enough. There is so less to use instead of XP. Maybe
DOS or NT4 ;-)... but NT4 lacks gaming capabilites.
Best regards,
Daniel Mandic
Daniel Mandic
> I haven't met a Vista computer yet that didn't have all XP
> drivers and software available for a downgrade.
My last adventure with a Vista Laptop, ended with a huge 'HD-Audio'
update for XP from Microsoft.
The sound-driver seemed to work now, but it has been lost after a
reboot. A newly soundriver installation brought you the sound back.
Hmmm, not bearable for a workstation :(
And some indicators (LED's, Volume bar, etc.) on the Laptop, do run
only with Vista drivers...
The other stuff ran perfect under XP ;) (e.g. Chipset, GfX, I/O)
Audio is the hardest part. Although, I have not given my best ;-).
A 100% setup, with every single LED on the laptop working, was only
achievable by vista drivers, though.
Best regards,
Daniel Mandic
Bear Bottoms
news:f-adnQJQ1Jjq4fvU...@giganews.com:
> Bear Bottoms <bearbo...@gmai.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9B8D5D48F7290b...@85.214.105.209:
>
>> . They've extended XP sales for new computers till then.
>
>
>
> If I buy a cheap Dell (or HP or e-machine), should I spend an
> additional $50 to request XP rather than Vista? I know the answer is
> probably 90% in the affirmative, but I thought I would get some
> opinions. How difficult is it to use a version of XP from a friend's
> computer if that person no longer uses the OS? I can get the keys and
> the disk, but from what I understand, if it's pre-installed on a Dell,
> it can only be used on that computer. Is that correct?
>
> If that's the case, would it be more feasible to install an old
> version of Windows 2000 on a new machine (after reformatting the hard
> drive to get the garbage they pre-install off of it) and then buy an
> XP upgrade, so that I have a version that can be installed on a future
> computer (if Windows 7 is as bad as Vista).
>
>
> Another option would be to stick with Vista and set up a dual boot
> with Linux, as much of the top freeware is starting to be offered for
> Linux. This way, I could just use Vista less than half the time.
>
I'd keep Vista and set up a dual-boot with Linux if Linux is comfortable
for you. Do you use wireless? If you could wait 3/4 year, and get Windows
7 twould be best maybe. I mean, can Microsoft afford to put out another
Edsel?
Dell used to sell a system with Linux on it. I'm not sure if they still
do or not. ReactOS is still a couple of years away. I'm good till then.
John Stubbings
> If I buy a cheap Dell (or HP or e-machine), should I spend an additional $50
> to request XP rather than Vista?
No, Vista is a terrific OS. Research it properly. Buy the right hardware
specification matched to the correct version for you and enjoy.
Don't listen to this lot. Go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista
and learn for yourself. The good and bad.
Buy Dell, don't buy mega cheap.
hummingbird
On 08 Jan 2009 22:14:07 GMT 'Daniel Mandic'
wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:
>hummingbird wrote:
Well, when I get back from 'the land of a thousand smiles'
and the Mekong ... I'm going to build my new system (already
got the h/w) - that will have 4DOS as well as XP-Pro-SP3 :-)
I'm not a gamer, so that isn't too important to me.
BTB
"Daniel Mandic" <daniel...@aon.at> wrote in message
news:496641c2$0$20975$91ce...@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at...
> hummingbird wrote:
> MS itself said (read in a newspaper),
Yes that good old gospel source of niformation. THE NEWSPAPERS. LMAO
anon
>>>> that ran on 95 thru XP.
> Not likely Vista's fault.
>>>> Another absolutely disgusting thing about it is that
>>>> some computer are being manufactured to run Vista only, such as my new HP
>>>> laptop. I purchased XP and tried to install it on this new machine, but
>>>> it couldn't access the web.
>>> Curiosity. What is the model number of that HP?
>> HP Pavillion dv6000
> There are XP network and chipset drivers available for that model at
> the HP website. Why not download those from another computer and
> install? I haven't met a Vista computer yet that didn't have all XP
> drivers and software available for a downgrade.
Thanks. I might try that although I am not really going thru another xp load/
vista reload when I cant get it to work.
> Not likely Vista's fault.
Not sure what it could otherwise be, unless you think it might be an HP
problem.
free...@hotmail.com
wrote:
>
>Nobody want it, because it is full loaded with useless or harmful
>shit. It is just good for being dropped to recycle/bin.
>
And the 'freeware' connection is ??
Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k)
> shit. It is just good for being dropped to recycle/bin.
It really is NOT that bad..... It may not be fast, but everything is
working OK for me, and I am using the 64-bit version.
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> John Stubbings <anna.riceD...@virgin.net> wrote in
> news:gk61n4$u0a$1...@news.motzarella.org:
>
>
>>
>> Buy Dell, don't buy mega cheap.
>>
>
> Thanks for the advice. I would just like to build my own, but the individual
> prices of the tower, power supply, CPU, mobo, ram, OS and cables already
> costs more than an already built computer from Dell (without monitor).
Dell's R&D do all the work for you and their support both via the web site
and on the phone is very good now. I haven't recommended HP for a while
now, because they ain't the company Compaq was, and won't ever be again.
> One big reason I'd like to put together my own unit (aside from it being
> easier to replace parts) is that the power supply Dell and the others give
> you is pretty chintzy.
Not my experience. Depends what you want. Got three Dell's here. One a
Linux server on a Dell workstation runs 24/7 5+ years old.
> In addition, the motherboards are specially designed
> to fit the proprietary cases of the manufacturer. Several years down the
> line they'll be hard to replace if necessary.
I throw them away and buy a new one. The world changes so fast. When it
comes to workstations, I give them 4 years max.
> Dell's deal with MS and the way they handle the OS system install is also
> a point of contention with me. Sometimes they don't even send a disk.
> You have to create a complete operating system disk yourself.
I haven't had to do that recently, they came with disks, it's a PITA, not a
deal breaker for me.
> Perhaps the best
> way to configure the order is without an operating system. This way you buy
> the full retail package yourself, and Dell won't load all the garbage on the
> computer.
Yep, but then you don't have the advantage of an OEM OS which comes at 1/3
price.
Dell, don't load so much crap now. See The PC Decrapifier.
http://pcdecrapifier.com/home. I've not used it. Nowadays most of the crap
just uninstalls. You might have to do that it safe mode if it comes with
McAfee.
Daniel Mandic
> Well, when I get back from 'the land of a thousand smiles'
> and the Mekong ... I'm going to build my new system (already
> got the h/w) - that will have 4DOS as well as XP-Pro-SP3 :-)
Hi!
Formerly I had DOS and AMIGA OS ;-), on seperate machines.
Although, my first PC was a Zorro expansion card (386SX/25)
Since NT4 I have also coupled NT with DOS, standard MS dual-boot (works
nice, IMO).
> I'm not a gamer, so that isn't too important to me.
It is :-)
One of my all times favourite is PGA486 Golf. Under DOS, off course...
To take that game for example: under win32, Golf games look more like a
CAD/CAM app :-). PGA486 looks like arcade to the first, but it's the
best golf sim so far, IMHO.
Best regards,
Daniel Mandic
Daniel Mandic
yeah... have you brought it into the newspaper!? (hedgefond-guys 'trick
No. 8' ;))
I didn't put out the rumour...
You need 3GB odd ram for Windows Vista...
512MB Laptops are being sold, not 100% XP ready... (reminds me to
swapping win95/98 times, INDEED - my ol' 300MHz OLD-PC in the cellar is
faster!)
Many stuff makes stress
That's not funny.
And it's not in the least hooked to the MS compatibility-strategy!
I laughed to that compatibility formerly... today I know better.
Best regards,
Daniel Mandic
Daniel Mandic
> Have you googled for a resolution to that problem?
It wasn't 100% XP compatible, so (a friend) I decided to spend no time
anymore.
I am pretty sure there is a solution. I guess to the volume touchpad...
It goes on and off while vista boots. But where are XP drivers for all
controllers, attached to a HP 2.8 dual-core, very late model.
> Have you tried the XP Conexant High Definition Audio Driver from the
> HP website?
Yes. But the latest on MS website have done the trick, though!
Kind regards,
Daniel Mandic
Daniel Mandic
> Not sure what it could otherwise be, unless you think it might be an
> HP problem.
try to install GfX drivers without a driver download-app :(
A laptop I know, is stucked with a y2003 GfX-driver. Except you have a
driver-install (search) app. The support page just holds y2003 drivers.
Any attempt to install the RIGHT driver (e.g. ATI homepage), ends with
a requester that you should contact your laptop manufacturer for
drivers... 2003...2009...-. eh!?
Where is the support? That's sh..!
Best regards,
Daniel Mandic
Ron May
> If I buy a cheap Dell (or HP or e-machine), should I spend an additional $50
> to request XP rather than Vista? I know the answer is probably 90% in the
> affirmative, but I thought I would get some opinions.
Stick with Dell, HP or Compaq and stay away from e-machine if you're
planning on using the computer a long time.
If you have a free choice of preloaded XP or Vista, go with XP as the
better choice. I wouldn't spend the extra $50 for that option. Vista
is nowhere near as bad as most people make it out to be. With a
little tweaking, it can be made to behave pretty much like XP. I've
been running Vista Home Basic on a low-end Compaq laptop for about
nine months, and performance-wise, I have no gripes between it and my
HP desktop running XP MCE on a day-to-day basis. It did take some
effort to get to that point, though, and I think that's where the bad
press comes from.
> How difficult is it to use a version of XP from a friend's computer if that
> person no longer uses the OS? I can get the keys and the disk, but from what
> I understand, if it's pre-installed on a Dell, it can only be used on that
> computer. Is that correct?
That's pretty much true.
> If that's the case, would it be more feasible to install an old version of
> Windows 2000 on a new machine (after reformatting the hard drive to get the
> garbage they pre-install off of it) and then buy an XP upgrade, so that I
> have a version that can be installed on a future computer (if Windows 7 is as
> bad as Vista).
That's a possibility, bur again, I think the better choice is to tweak
Vista to get it to behave better. There's nothing inherently flawed
in Vista except it's designed to act like a nanny to protect the
lowest common denominator of users from themselves. That's an
irritation that can be fixed for the most part. A good place to start
is Black Viper's site:
http://www.blackviper.com/WinVista/winvista.htm
> Another option would be to stick with Vista and set up a dual boot with
> Linux, as much of the top freeware is starting to be offered for Linux.
> This way, I could just use Vista less than half the time.
I have no experience with doing it that way, though I did try a Wubi
install early last year on my desktop. It didn't work out for me and
it was harder to put things back the way they were than advertised,
but I did manage it in about an hour's worth of work.
If you do want to go with a real dual boot, you can find excellent
help here in this NG.
--
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Known sock puppets and forged messages are deleted unread.
alt.comp.freeware information pages:
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John Corliss
> Ron wrote:
>> Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>>> http://www.xitimonitor.com/fr-fr/equipement-internaute/systemes-d-explo
>>>> itation-aout-2008/index-1-1-7-143.html
>>>> Nobody want it, because it is full loaded with useless or harmful
>>>> shit. It is just good for being dropped to recycle/bin.
>>>
>>> or October. It is going to be Vista with some improvements...nothing
>>
>> Why not either quote the article you briefly paraphrase or provide a
>> link?
>> Today's edition of Windows Secrets - lead story
>
> Whoops! For those who don't have a paid subscription.
> http://windowssecrets.com/comp/090108/
Best part of the article is:
_______________________________________________________________________
Eric Krangel reports on the Silicon Alley Insider blog that Dell has
gradually been inflating its surcharge for "downgrading" a PC from Vista
to XP. The bite rose last June from U.S. $20 to $50, then spiked in
October to $100, and now is a whopping $150.
The fact that Dell's customers appear to be willing to pay this amount
or more to avoid Vista may be the greatest indictment of Microsoft's
unloved OS.
_______________________________________________________________________
If you want to run more than roughly 3.5 gb of ram under Windows though,
you either have to go with 64 bit XP or 64 bit Vista AFAIK. 64 bit XP
probably won't have too many drivers being developed for it in the
future unlike the 64 bit version of Vista.
Looks I'll be putting off buying a new computer for yet another year.
--
John Corliss BS206. I use nFilter to block all Google Groups posts
because of Googlespam. No ad, cd, commercial, cripple, demo, dotnet,
nag, share, spy, time-limited, trial or web wares OR warez for me, please.
John Corliss
Damn, Daniel! Your English has improved a whole bunch. What happened?
Bear Bottoms
news:9dpdm4lekhok2s9v1...@4ax.com:
Keeping up with the systems we use our freeware on...very important part
of the equation.
Bear Bottoms
udnUsRE4aAy_rUn...@posted.ccountrynet:
> Looks I'll be putting off buying a new computer for yet another year.
>
>
Good plan John. My thoughts exactly. Also for the touchscreen phones...wait
a bit. The ones now aren't complete...selective marketing I suppose.
Krazee Brenda
> On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 17:37:49 +0000, Roger Hunt wrote:
>
>> In article <gk5d09$o0l$1...@news.motzarella.org>, John Stubbings
>> <anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>>>On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 17:18:35 +0000, Roger Hunt wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <gk5bak$59i$1...@news.motzarella.org>, John Stubbings
>>>> <anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>>>>>On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 16:13:27 +0000, Roger Hunt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <6772e7a9-4706-4086...@w39g2000prb.googlegroup
>>>>>> s.com>, lisz...@aliceadsl.fr writes
>>>>>>>http://www.xitimonitor.com/fr-fr/equipement-internaute/systemes-d-
>>>>>exploitation-
>>>>>>>aout-2008/index-1-1-7-143.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Nobody want it, because it is full loaded with useless or harmful
>>>>>>>shit. It is just good for being dropped to recycle/bin.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you move Drive C: (or whatever) to the Recycle bin, Vista will
>>>>>> obligingly eat itself, rather like a snake swallowing its tail, and
>>>>>> it will disappear with a "POP" and a puff of green smoke.
>>>>>
>>>>>I moved whatever to the recycle bin and it promptly ate the contents,
>>>>>burped and mutated into unix...
>>>>>
>>>> Strange ... won't work here - it ate it but then farted wetly, mutated
>>>> into Win 95b and marked 4500000 disk clusters as bad.
>>>
>>>DOS>mv C:\ Recycle_Bin -nowetfart
>>>
>>>should do ya
>>>
>> Worked a treat! Thanks!
>>
>> I used the "-reacharound" switch to fix the cluster problem too.
>
> cluster fuck
I find the term "cliuster fuck" perjorative. I prefer "gang bang"...as
long as I am the "bang".
--
Hear Brenda's First Luv !
http://tr.im/2yad
Roger Hunt
<brenda...@gmail.com> writes
-reacharound must not be used with -gang_bang because the results may
not be predictable.
--
Roger Hunt
John Stubbings
or desirable by the gang
anyway, these are now deprecated and replaced by the -anything_goes switch
use the -$$$ switch for verbose output
Roger Hunt
>use the -$$$ switch for verbose output
>
--
Roger Hunt
John Stubbings
Figured you for a Bix Beiderbecke fan...
>>use the -$$$ switch for verbose output
>>
> and the -en switch for Anglo-Saxon cries of ecstasy.
Just for hummingbird that one. Outputs 'Triumph of the Will' while he
goosesteps in his undies up and down his shitty little council flat
screaming FranklinSlime AriSilverSlime baba booboo
You can hear it for miles...
Daniel Mandic
> Damn, Daniel! Your English has improved a whole bunch. What happened?
Hi John!
I don't know, maybe my grammar got fixed a bit.
Don't worry, it gladdens myself when I finish an understandable
sentence. (I go over the text a couple of times... regardless.)
'LingoPad' (\flash !!!FREEWARE!!! flash/) is also a treasure and German
is well known by me. It helps me a lot... It finds unknown/strange
english words, well known by me in german. With nice example sentences
to any single word! Astonishing, indeed!
By the way, have you ever noticed spelling mistakes by me? :)
Best regards,
Daniel Mandic
John Corliss
Can't say that I have, Daniel.
> Best regards,
I, and I'm sure many others appreciate your continual civility also.
Daniel Mandic
> > Yes. But the latest on MS website have done the trick, though!
>
> I don't understand. Are you saying that you no longer have any audio
> problems?
Hi M.L.!
There is an "Audio HD" update (~60GB) for XP machines from MS and 'the'
driver, e.g. by connexant.
Something while vista boot, turns off the audio drivers. If you install
the drivers again you have sound till reset. :-)
We didn't do further because some controllers etc., ran only with vista
drivers. Thus the audio problem most probably...
Maybe there is a workaround, but I am not interested, neither in vista
laptops nor vista.
Kind regards,
Daniel Mandic
Daniel Mandic
> Keeping up with the systems we use our freeware on...very important
> part of the equation.
experience...
freeware coherence...
Kind regards,
Daniel Mandic
Daniel Mandic
> experience...
>
> freeware coherence...
and not
disjointedness...
incoherency...
Bear Bottoms
$91ce...@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at:
Exactly!
Franklin
> Daniel Mandic wrote:
>> hummingbird wrote:
>>
>>> Well, when I get back from 'the land of a thousand smiles'
>>> and the Mekong ... I'm going to build my new system (already
>>> got the h/w) - that will have 4DOS as well as XP-Pro-SP3 :-)
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>>
>> Formerly I had DOS and AMIGA OS ;-), on seperate machines.
>> Although, my first PC was a Zorro expansion card (386SX/25)
>>
>> Since NT4 I have also coupled NT with DOS, standard MS
>> dual-boot (works nice, IMO).
>>
>>> I'm not a gamer, so that isn't too important to me.
>>
>> It is :-)
>>
>> One of my all times favourite is PGA486 Golf. Under DOS, off
>> course... To take that game for example: under win32, Golf
>> games look more like a CAD/CAM app :-). PGA486 looks like
>> arcade to the first, but it's the best golf sim so far, IMHO.
>
> Damn, Daniel! Your English has improved a whole bunch. What
> happened?
>
He forgot.
Why Tea
> liszt...@aliceadsl.fr wrote innews:6772e7a9-4706-4086...@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com:
>
> >http://www.xitimonitor.com/fr-fr/equipement-internaute/systemes-d-explo
> > itation-aout-2008/index-1-1-7-143.html
>
> > Nobody want it, because it is full loaded with useless or harmful
> > shit. It is just good for being dropped to recycle/bin.
>
>
> Yeah, Vista is the Edsel of OS's. M$ is releasing Windows 7 in August or
> October. It is going to be Vista with some improvements...nothing
> magnificent. They've extended XP sales for new computers till then. That
> in itself is testiment to the Edsel.
How long have you run Vista, BB? I have been
using it for over 4 months now. It has some
annoyances, but it works fine. Some of my
colleagues have used it for some heavy-duty
work in development in mixed OS environment
and there are no major issues. It's by no
means perfect, but neither is it a junk like
most people commented. A company with
over 50,000 employees have moved from
W2K to Vista bypassing XP altogether
and the IT manager still hasn't lost his job.
Bear Bottoms
news:9a34d0b5-4f52-40d7...@r15g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
I had it on my laptop when I bought it last year. After two months I took
back to the store and had them remove it and load XP on it. By no means
an improvement over XP. I was paraphrasing from an article I had read,
don't remember who the author was, and I agree...though the lack of sales
is a testament as well as the extension of the sales of XP. The biggest
testament of them all is the fact that M$ is releasing Windows 7 this
year.
John Stubbings
Wasn't that Vista Basic though BB? Come on, own up, your wallet jammed, and
you didn't do your research.
aracARI
> I had it on my laptop when I bought it last year.
Freeware research from Amiga to Cray to laptop.
--
http://tr.im/2a2r
aracARI
> Wasn't that Vista Basic though BB? Come on, own up, your wallet jammed, and
> you didn't do your research.
What do you expect, Stubbles, a cache of money from alleged cocaine drug
smuggling?
--
http://tr.im/2a2r
elaich
$91ce...@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at:
> I can't praise XP enough. There is so less to use instead of XP. Maybe
> DOS or NT4 ;-)... but NT4 lacks gaming capabilites.
Windows 2000 was the best OS Microsoft ever made.
Craig
elaich <x@y.z> wrote:
+1 (and the gaming ain't too bad)
-Craig
Zaphod
> http://www.xitimonitor.com/fr-fr/equipement-internaute/systemes-d-exp...
>
> Nobody want it, because it is full loaded with useless or harmful
> shit. It is just good for being dropped to recycle/bin.
>
> L
It is amazing how people have forgotten that XP suffered from a
similar history ... poor compatibility with older programs and rather
buggy out of the box, extremely vulnerable etc etc ... Service pack 2
being it's salvation for me ... I only used XP on test machines for
personal use up to XP-SP2 so had the OS to refer to while walking a
customer through some process on the phone .... however .. as much as
I'm no big fan of the Microsoft monopoly .. XP has matured into a use-
able system ... but the question is .. will Vista? ... I'm typing this
from a Vista system (not mine!) and I'm disgusted as to how much I
cannot do on it!
Why Tea
Well put. We might still see the same sentiment
when Windows 7 is released.
Boony
"Zaphod" <isitco...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e590ba4f-ff57-4f5c...@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
What can't you do on it? Quite often the problem is between the chair and
the keyboard!
glorieux
Well, every OS has its problems and Vista has had many for some people.
I was an early purchaser of Vista and, like every OS before it, had to
learn to conquer it before it conquered me and I became a complainer
like so many in this group.
Time and education...that's what every OS needs along with a little TLC.
There's nothing I can't do on Vista and I will be in no hurry to
purchase Windows 7.
People need to spend time with their machine that has Vista on it and,
like a good wine, it too will mature with time.
Sure, life would have been simpler had I just stuck with XP but I was
all 'learned-out' with that OS and needed new challenges. My Vista
install runs very well, very fast and safe and I learned a lot while
tweaking it over the past year and some.
glorieux
anon
I jista wista I didn't have vista.
Bear Bottoms
> Craig <netbu...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in
> news:gk5eoq$oc$1...@nntp.motzarella.org:
>
>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 08:22:46 -0800
>> Ron <rmoo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ron wrote:
>>> > Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>> >> lisz...@aliceadsl.fr wrote in
>>> >> news:6772e7a9-4706-4086...@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.
>>> >> com:
>>> >>> http://www.xitimonitor.com/fr-fr/equipement-internaute/systemes-d-
>>> >>> explo itation-aout-2008/index-1-1-7-143.html
>>> >>> Nobody want it, because it is full loaded with useless or harmful
>>> >>> shit. It is just good for being dropped to recycle/bin.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> L
>>> >>>
>>> >> Yeah, Vista is the Edsel of OS's. M$ is releasing Windows 7 in
>>> >> August or October. It is going to be Vista with some
>>> >> improvements...nothing magnificent. They've extended XP sales for
>>> >> new computers till then. That in itself is testiment to the Edsel.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> > Bear,
>>> > Why not either quote the article you briefly paraphrase or provide
>>> > a link? Today's edition of Windows Secrets - lead story
>> ...
>>> http://windowssecrets.com/comp/090108/
>>
>> Too weird. You'd think by now that he'd... Nah. Thanks for the
>> reality check, Ron.
>>
>> -Craig
>
> In come the scum sharks. I tell M$ when to do these things and what to do
> and they comply.
*******SPOOF********
Bear Bottoms
> Ron <rmoo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
> news:5Z-dnWeryoAGuvvU...@earthlink.com:
>
>> Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>> lisz...@aliceadsl.fr wrote in
>>> news:6772e7a9-4706-4086...@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com
>>> :
>>>
>>>> http://www.xitimonitor.com/fr-fr/equipement-internaute/systemes-d-exp
>>>> lo itation-aout-2008/index-1-1-7-143.html
>>>>
>>>> Nobody want it, because it is full loaded with useless or harmful
>>>> shit. It is just good for being dropped to recycle/bin.
>>>>
>>>> L
>>>>
>>> Yeah, Vista is the Edsel of OS's. M$ is releasing Windows 7 in August
>>> or October. It is going to be Vista with some improvements...nothing
>>> magnificent. They've extended XP sales for new computers till then.
>>> That in itself is testiment to the Edsel.
>>>
>> Bear,
>> Why not either quote the article you briefly paraphrase or provide a
>> link? Today's edition of Windows Secrets - lead story
>> http://windowssecrets.com/paid/090108/
>>
>> hth
>> Ron
>
> I couldn't remember where I read it. I've read probably close to 100
> articles today already...more to go...that is unless you want to believe
> I created the dates, and told M$ when to release 7, etc.
Bear Bottoms
news:496ab0fa$1...@news.x-privat.org:
> On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 18:03:59 +0000 (UTC), Bear Bottoms wrote:
>
>> Craig <netbu...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in
>> news:gk5eoq$oc$1...@nntp.motzarella.org:
>>
>>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 08:22:46 -0800
>>> Ron <rmoo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ron wrote:
>>>> > Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>>> >> lisz...@aliceadsl.fr wrote in
>>>> >> news:6772e7a9-4706-4086...@w39g2000prb.googlegroup
>>>> >> s. com:
>>>> >>> http://www.xitimonitor.com/fr-fr/equipement-internaute/systemes-
>>>> >>> d- explo itation-aout-2008/index-1-1-7-143.html
>>>> >>> Nobody want it, because it is full loaded with useless or
>>>> >>> harmful shit. It is just good for being dropped to recycle/bin.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> L
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> Yeah, Vista is the Edsel of OS's. M$ is releasing Windows 7 in
>>>> >> August or October. It is going to be Vista with some
>>>> >> improvements...nothing magnificent. They've extended XP sales
>>>> >> for new computers till then. That in itself is testiment to the
>>>> >> Edsel.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> > Bear,
>>>> > Why not either quote the article you briefly paraphrase or
>>>> > provide a link? Today's edition of Windows Secrets - lead story
>>> ...
>>>> http://windowssecrets.com/comp/090108/
>>>
>>> Too weird. You'd think by now that he'd... Nah. Thanks for the
>>> reality check, Ron.
>>>
>>> -Craig
>>
>> In come the scum sharks. I tell M$ when to do these things and what
>> to do and they comply.
>
> *******SPOOF********
*********FORGERY-ABUSE COMPLAINT SENT***********
Bear Bottoms
> On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 17:51:33 +0000 (UTC), Bear Bottoms wrote:
>
>> Ron <rmoo...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
>> news:5Z-dnWeryoAGuvvU...@earthlink.com:
>>
>>> Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>>> lisz...@aliceadsl.fr wrote in
>>>> news:6772e7a9-4706-4086...@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.c
>>>> om
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.xitimonitor.com/fr-fr/equipement-internaute/systemes-d-e
>>>>> xp lo itation-aout-2008/index-1-1-7-143.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Nobody want it, because it is full loaded with useless or harmful
>>>>> shit. It is just good for being dropped to recycle/bin.
>>>>>
>>>>> L
>>>>>
>>>> Yeah, Vista is the Edsel of OS's. M$ is releasing Windows 7 in
>>>> August or October. It is going to be Vista with some
>>>> improvements...nothing magnificent. They've extended XP sales for
>>>> new computers till then. That in itself is testiment to the Edsel.
>>>>
>>> Bear,
>>> Why not either quote the article you briefly paraphrase or provide a
>>> link? Today's edition of Windows Secrets - lead story
>>> http://windowssecrets.com/paid/090108/
>>>
>>> hth
>>> Ron
>>
>> I couldn't remember where I read it. I've read probably close to 100
>> articles today already...more to go...that is unless you want to
>> believe I created the dates, and told M$ when to release 7, etc.
>
> *******SPOOF********
*********FORGERY-ABUSE COMPLAINT SENT***********
dee2too
> >http://www.xitimonitor.com/fr-fr/equipement-internaute/systemes-d-exp...
> > Nobody want it, because it is full loaded with useless or harmful
> > shit. It is just good for being dropped to recycle/bin.
> > L
>
> on 95 thru XP. Another absolutely disgusting thing about it is that some
> computer are being manufactured to run Vista only, such as my new HP laptop. I
> purchased XP and tried to install it on this new machine, but it couldn't
> access the web. I would hope that Win7 would be offered to Vista suckers at a
> discount price (preferably free), but I doubt that that will happen. You
> should see the comments on the Vista Forum. Most of those people are swooning
> over the thing. Any valid bad comment about Vista is usually met with 'It's
> your fault!'.
Well, I use a HP quad core, which will not run XP, so I was stuck
with Vista. After a month or so of configuring, I really enjoy it. I
found a lot of the kinks were about some of the Intel chips, which
were fixed with a few downloads from the Intel site, including a BIOS
update. The graphics don't really take off until I used a multi
processor, big gigabyte graphics adapter. I can do tons of re-encoding
in virtually any flavor, download from several websites at the same
time, and do file manipulation while I'm defragging. All at the same
time without a hiccup. I network with my netbook, which is running XP
Pro, and the networking is much more powerful in Vista Home Premium.
I've run everything from Win 3.11 thru Vista, and several flavors of
Linux, on everything from a 386 to P4 quad-core. I really don't
understand why people have so many problems with Vista.
OK, I'll take the popular front. It is TERRIBLE, it is green, the
name starts with a V instead of an X. And next year my folks are going
to buy me a new computer with a better OS for Xmas.
John Stubbings
> I can do tons of re-encoding
> in virtually any flavor, download from several websites at the same
> time, and do file manipulation while I'm defragging. All at the same
> time without a hiccup.
Good point, and one you forget is the ability to do umpteen things
concurrently.
Roger Hunt
<anna.riceD...@virgin.net> writes
>On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:24:58 -0800 (PST), Googler dee2too wrote:
>
>> I can do tons of re-encoding
>> in virtually any flavor, download from several websites at the same
>> time, and do file manipulation while I'm defragging. All at the same
>> time without a hiccup.
>
>Good point, and one you forget is the ability to do umpteen things
>concurrently.
>
(wipes keyboard)
--
Roger Hunt
John Stubbings
8~*)
Daniel Mandic
> Well, I use a HP quad core, which will not run XP, so I was stuck
> with Vista. After a month or so of configuring, I really enjoy it. I
> found a lot of the kinks were about some of the Intel chips, which
> were fixed with a few downloads from the Intel site, including a BIOS
> update. The graphics don't really take off until I used a multi
> processor, big gigabyte graphics adapter. I can do tons of re-encoding
> in virtually any flavor, download from several websites at the same
> time, and do file manipulation while I'm defragging. All at the same
> time without a hiccup. I network with my netbook, which is running XP
> Pro, and the networking is much more powerful in Vista Home Premium.
> I've run everything from Win 3.11 thru Vista, and several flavors of
> Linux, on everything from a 386 to P4 quad-core. I really don't
> understand why people have so many problems with Vista.
> OK, I'll take the popular front. It is TERRIBLE, it is green, the
> name starts with a V instead of an X. And next year my folks are going
> to buy me a new computer with a better OS for Xmas.
I can understand you. But there is no development in your work :)
The main user are needing a stable windows (not 9x/ME!) and XP propels
many machines, what Vista can't do!
You need a new, if not a 'tomorrow machine' for Vista.
XP goes well with a nice mainboard and a 300MHz P2 (zero latency 2nd
level cache), often found in America PC's (especially in California).
Such nice (old and qualitative, expensive though) PC's run XP
satisfying. And you have one of the most stable systems for IBM-PC and
compatibles, too. XP...
Some of the Vista machines are already in the landfill. Cheap and crap
parts, in overheated environments. Thrown away after 2 years, due to
some caps (~2 dollar worth!)
Ah. My old 1996 PC runs anything nice (DOS to XP.... I don't need a
fleet of PC's to do so, just the one, running even 'ANY' sound under
DOS, due to a ISA BUS) ...heh! I would even dare to try Vista ;-)!!!
But with the dual CPU version of my chipset, of course. [2x1.4GHz
low-entry server-CPU -Banias and Pentium M ancestor!] and a PCI Sound
card... I guess Vista doesn't support ISA cards anymore :| (lame).
Well. They have 1333MHz FSB now... hmmm, that's 310MHz more than my
1400 P3 core speed, running at 1.08GHz. BUT.... I don't see IT!!!!
Ultra lame machines, overloaded with latencies anywhere!!! Today.
Modern ;-)
Pah.
Best regards,
Daniel Mandic
glorieux
>
> I can understand you. But there is no development in your work :)
>
> The main user are needing a stable windows (not 9x/ME!) and XP propels
> many machines, what Vista can't do!
>
> You need a new, if not a 'tomorrow machine' for Vista.
> XP goes well with a nice mainboard and a 300MHz P2 (zero latency 2nd
> level cache), often found in America PC's (especially in California).
>
> Such nice (old and qualitative, expensive though) PC's run XP
> satisfying. And you have one of the most stable systems for IBM-PC and
> compatibles, too. XP...
>
> Some of the Vista machines are already in the landfill. Cheap and crap
> parts, in overheated environments. Thrown away after 2 years, due to
> some caps (~2 dollar worth!)
>
>
> Ah. My old 1996 PC runs anything nice (DOS to XP.... I don't need a
> fleet of PC's to do so, just the one, running even 'ANY' sound under
> DOS, due to a ISA BUS) ...heh! I would even dare to try Vista ;-)!!!
> But with the dual CPU version of my chipset, of course. [2x1.4GHz
> low-entry server-CPU -Banias and Pentium M ancestor!] and a PCI Sound
> card... I guess Vista doesn't support ISA cards anymore :| (lame).
>
>
> Well. They have 1333MHz FSB now... hmmm, that's 310MHz more than my
> 1400 P3 core speed, running at 1.08GHz. BUT.... I don't see IT!!!!
> Ultra lame machines, overloaded with latencies anywhere!!! Today.
> Modern ;-)
>
> Pah.
>
What do "cheap and crap parts, in overheated environments. Thrown away
after 2 years," have to do with Vista or, for that matter, any OS?
Don't blame Vista for buying crap parts...it's the human that makes the
choice, not the OS.
glorieux