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Mike Easter

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Dec 29, 2010, 2:42:51 PM12/29/10
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I've recently started using PDF-XChange Viewer v.2.0 and I like it
better than others such as FoxIt or Adobe's.

But...

... recently I've run into some .pdf/s which have elements which don't
display. Instead of displaying properly, they show a black box where the
graphic is supposed to be. If I view the .pdf with Adobe or FoxIt or a
linux viewer such as document viewer, then the black box parts show
normally.

I searched with the knowledgebase tool at the tracker-software developer
site, but I can't find mention of this black box business yet.

Is anyone else familiar with this problem? I would like to give some
feedback to the developer, but I don't yet know how to define the issue.
other than sending him an example .pdf.

Recent examples: a .pdf manual for a cordless phone had a few places, my
newspaper's .pdf of their crossword puzzle page had another. On that
newspaper page which had two puzzles, one puzzle displayed normally, one
puzzle was a big black rectangle, but it displayed normally in all other
viewers. Same difference for the manual elements.


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Gufus

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Dec 29, 2010, 4:50:16 PM12/29/10
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Mike Easter <Mi...@ster.invalid> wrote:

> From: Mi...@ster.invalid

> I've recently started using PDF-XChange Viewer v.2.0 and I
> like it better than others such as FoxIt or Adobe's.

Your millage will vary from program to program..
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dusty

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Dec 29, 2010, 5:59:09 PM12/29/10
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 14:50:16 -0700, Gufus wrote:

> Your millage will vary from program to program..

What a grinding response.

Gufus

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dusty <dus...@nowhere.otr> wrote:

> From: dus...@nowhere.otr

>> Your millage will vary from program to program..

> What a grinding response.

It's true tho..
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Johnw

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Dec 29, 2010, 7:22:37 PM12/29/10
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on 30/12/2010, Mike Easter supposed :

Upload screenshots to a site of your choosing, of x-change & Adobe or
FoxIt please Mike.

Also, what operating system are you using & are you using the portable
version.

The pdf manuals will help, either the links or upload to a site.


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Ian Jackson

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Dec 30, 2010, 9:53:42 AM12/30/10
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In message <ni1ph65aj3tbmqlra...@net.com>, Yrrah
<Yrra...@acf.invalid> writes
>Mike Easter <Mi...@ster.invalid>:

>
>> recently I've run into some .pdf/s which have elements which don't
>> display. Instead of displaying properly, they show a black box where the
>> graphic is supposed to be.
>
>I haven't noticed this (yet?). Do these PDFs have something in common
>(try 'File' 'Document Properties'). Can you post some of these PDFs
>somewhere?
>
I've been using PDF X-Change for the at least a couple of years (and
keeping up it updated), but I've never seen any sign of the 'black box'
problem. [XP and all SPs.]
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Mike Easter

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Dec 30, 2010, 10:00:48 AM12/30/10
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Yrrah wrote:
> Mike Easter

>> recently I've run into some .pdf/s which have elements which don't
>> display. Instead of displaying properly, they show a black box where the
>> graphic is supposed to be.
>

> I haven't noticed this (yet?). Do these PDFs have something in common
> (try 'File' 'Document Properties'). Can you post some of these PDFs
> somewhere?

I fixed it somewhere in Preferences; but I don't know exactly where
because it wasn't acting consistently with the Apply function. I was
changing things and using Apply and sometimes apply seemed to work and
sometimes it didn't and then 'all of a sudden' the problem was solved.

It might have been unchecking override document colors, but I can't get
that toggle to consistently have the same effect on the puzzle object.

The problem/black areas such as the crossword were not in color, they
were black and white, however the classified page with the puzzle also
had ads with colors.

There wasn't anything useful (to me) in the doc Properties.

If I figure it out later, I'll report back.

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Bear Bottoms

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Dec 30, 2010, 10:51:31 AM12/30/10
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Ian Jackson <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in
news:BoiVZfD2...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk:

I am not currently recommending PDF X-Change thus you use it at your own
peril.

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Mike Easter

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Dec 30, 2010, 11:10:05 AM12/30/10
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Bear Bottoms wrote:

> I am not currently recommending PDF X-Change thus you use it at your own
> peril.

What it was/is doing great for me is an excellent job of printing a
crossword puzzle clearly and distinctly including all of the grid lines
precisely straight and the little bitty grid numbers and 'infinitely'
scaling the puzzle using the 'print selected graphic' to such values as
146.5%. I used that example not because it - the exact value - was
important, but because I could get 145% or tweak it even more finely.

Other tools such as FoxIt or Adobe gave 'imperfect' results of slightly
wavy grid lines or smudgy/blurry tiny grid numbers and would only let me
select a preset value of scaling such as 100 125 150%.


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Mike Easter

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Dec 30, 2010, 11:17:36 AM12/30/10
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Mike Easter wrote:

> What it was/is doing great for me is an excellent job of printing a
> crossword puzzle clearly and distinctly including all of the grid lines
> precisely straight and the little bitty grid numbers and 'infinitely'
> scaling the puzzle using the 'print selected graphic' to such values as
> 146.5%.

I haven't found any pure linux .pdf apps that will do anything like
that; but PDF-XChange is supposed to be running platinum under wine.

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Bear Bottoms

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Dec 30, 2010, 11:33:31 AM12/30/10
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Mike Easter <Mi...@ster.invalid> wrote in
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You are responding to a forger Mike (unless you aren't Mike :)
Beat Forgers: http://screencast.com/t/6MRounqDX

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Beat Forgers:

Dave

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Dec 30, 2010, 12:04:20 PM12/30/10
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I've never had any problems with scaling using Okular,granted I've never
tried crossword puzzles but I have used it with plenty of pdfs' with
table grids.

Dave

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Mike Easter

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Dec 30, 2010, 12:34:29 PM12/30/10
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Bear Bottoms wrote:
> Mike Easter

> You are responding to a forger Mike (unless you aren't Mike :)

OK tnx.

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Bear Bottoms

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Dec 30, 2010, 1:12:47 PM12/30/10
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Mike Easter <Mi...@ster.invalid> wrote in news:8o3u55Fja0U2
@mid.individual.net:

> Bear Bottoms wrote:
>> Mike Easter
>
>> You are responding to a forger Mike (unless you aren't Mike :)
>
> OK tnx.
>

Anyway...I cooked the forgers goose. My posts will contain duplicate screen
cast links so check my post against the screen cast link to be sure it's
me. The best he can do is copy my post exactly, though I will delete the
screen cast contents routinely so those links stop working.

Ari Silverstein

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Dec 30, 2010, 1:23:08 PM12/30/10
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On 30 Dec 2010 18:12:47 GMT, Bear Bottoms wrote:

> Mike Easter <Mi...@ster.invalid> wrote in news:8o3u55Fja0U2
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>> Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>> Mike Easter
>>
>>> You are responding to a forger Mike (unless you aren't Mike :)
>>
>> OK tnx.
>>
>
> Anyway...I cooked the forgers goose. My posts will contain duplicate screen
> cast links so check my post against the screen cast link to be sure it's
> me. The best he can do is copy my post exactly, though I will delete the
> screen cast contents routinely so those links stop working.

Bottoms, you're brilliant!

Uh, no, wait, to make sure you're not the forger, answer these
questions.

1) Who was late to pick up Barry Seals sealing his fate to be
assassinated?
2) At what AGL did you drop the cocaine into Louisiana?
3) Was it $1.5M or $1.75M you bragged about making running drugs?
4) What color is the inside of Jacqueline Bottoms pussy?

No, forget #4, that's common knowledge.


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Mike Easter

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Dec 30, 2010, 1:26:42 PM12/30/10
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Bear Bottoms wrote:
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> Mike Easter
>> Bear Bottoms wrote:

>>> You are responding to a forger Mike (unless you aren't Mike :)
>> OK tnx.
>>
>
> Anyway...I cooked the forgers goose. My posts will contain duplicate screen
> cast links so check my post against the screen cast link to be sure it's
> me. The best he can do is copy my post exactly, though I will delete the
> screen cast contents routinely so those links stop working.

I don't think you have to go to any more trouble than posting via
sunsite/dotsrc. I just wasn't paying attention.


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Bear Bottoms

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Dec 30, 2010, 1:33:30 PM12/30/10
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Mike Easter <Mi...@ster.invalid> wrote in
news:8o4173...@mid.individual.net:

> I don't think you have to go to any more trouble than posting via
> sunsite/dotsrc. I just wasn't paying attention.
>
>

It takes two clicks to make the link which is copied to my clipboard as it
is made.

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Bear Bottoms

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Dec 30, 2010, 1:41:18 PM12/30/10
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Ari Silverstein <AriSilv...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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To keep ahead of the forger I have already changed my Screencast signature.
Please do not insult my intelligence any more than is necessary.

Signed by the real Bear Bottoms:
http://screencast.com/bearlabs404

Screencast fair use notice: viewer IP is logged to improve service

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Craig

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Dec 30, 2010, 2:14:35 PM12/30/10
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Mike;

Would you point us to the pdf's in question? I'd like to see if any of
the pdf readers I'm using under Linux would work the way you prefer... &
w/o the black-out.

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Ubuntu 10.04/Windows 7

Bear Bottoms

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Dec 30, 2010, 2:48:27 PM12/30/10
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Bear Bottoms <bearbo...@gmai.com> wrote in
news:Xns9E5EBE1C7BEA4b...@130.225.254.104:

> To keep ahead of the forger I have already changed my Screencast
> signature. Please do not insult my intelligence any more than is
> necessary.
>
> Signed by the real Bear Bottoms:
> http://screencast.com/bearlabs404
>
> Screencast fair use notice: viewer IP is logged to improve service
>

LOL...that is the only card you can try to play...too bad it isn't good
enough. Your goose is cooked. Your dumb is showing through!

Clue one: Your forged signature is wrong.
Clue two: I have the only bearbottoms account at Jing.

Yup, your goose is cooked.

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Mike Easter

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Dec 30, 2010, 3:12:55 PM12/30/10
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Craig wrote:

> Would you point us to the pdf's in question? I'd like to see if any of
> the pdf readers I'm using under Linux would work the way you prefer... &
> w/o the black-out.

They aren't/weren't online, but I'll upload the newspaper's classified
page with the syndicated NYT puz (6 weeks belated).

The badongo file site isn't working for me right now, so I used/grabbed
this (strange) one, it is a weird file site which I wouldn't recommend.

http://www.filedropper.com/sandiegouniontribune20101230c07

Be careful there and don't click the wrong download thing/button. The
file's name is san_diego_union_tribune_20101230_C07.pdf


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Ian Jackson

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Dec 30, 2010, 3:23:54 PM12/30/10
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In message <8o47e9...@mid.individual.net>, Mike Easter
<Mi...@ster.invalid> writes
It looks fine. I can't see anything abnormal with it.
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Bear Bottoms

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Dec 30, 2010, 3:25:40 PM12/30/10
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Mike Easter <Mi...@ster.invalid> wrote in
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Mike, get a Jing account. It is actually useful. Make screen shots, video
with sound (5min max), and you can upload content. 2gb storage free with
2gb per month free bandwidth. Dead simple and fast.

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Registered Windows User since 1985

Beat Forgers:

Craig

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Dec 30, 2010, 4:04:52 PM12/30/10
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Hi Mike;

For a relatively sparse site, it is pretty ominous ;-) Anyway, I
downloaded the above pdf and displayed it in the default gnome pdf
reader <http://www.gnome.org/projects/evince>.

No problem. No black boxes and, when magnified to 400x, it looked clear
and sharp... no smudging or blur but... I can't find a way to set it to
an exact magnification level.
...

One other idea... Have you tried SumatraPDF reader? It's Winderz-only
but at least you'll have another baseline.

hth,

Yuhler G

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Dec 31, 2010, 12:27:34 PM12/31/10
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Open it here with no quirks at all. My PDF X-Change Viewer has
default settings except for Javascript.

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Mike Easter

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Dec 31, 2010, 3:00:08 PM12/31/10
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Yuhler G wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> Craig wrote:

>>> Would you point us to the pdf's in question?

>> The file's name is san_diego_union_tribune_20101230_C07.pdf

> Open it here with no quirks at all. My PDF X-Change Viewer has
> default settings except for Javascript.

The PDF-XChange setting which makes the black boxes on that file are:
Edit/ Preferences/ Accessibility/ Override document Colors - check use
Windows Color scheme - check Change the color of line art as well as text.

I reset the default settings to see if that had been the default, but
the default reset didn't put it into the above config.

I don't know how the settings got to be that way. I didn't do any
reconfiguring in Preferences until I was trying to make the black boxes
go away.


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Johnw

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Dec 31, 2010, 7:50:49 PM12/31/10
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Mike Easter formulated on Saturday :

> I don't know how the settings got to be that way. I didn't do any
> reconfiguring in Preferences until I was trying to make the black boxes go
> away.

Can I have a screenshot of your opening page, no preferences or
anything clicked.


Mike Easter

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Dec 31, 2010, 9:07:39 PM12/31/10
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I don't understand the/your request or the meaning of my 'opening page'.

Do you want a screenshot of what the view of the .pdf looks like when it
is in the 'black box condition'? Three more questions for you follow.

Do you have an installation of PDF-XChange Viewer v. 2.0 Build 57.0? Did
you download the .pdf I uploaded? If so x2, what do /you/ see when you
configure the viewer to preferences/ override/ use Win color scheme/
change color of line art as well?

You are making a request which I don't yet understand but you aren't
giving me any feedback yet.

Give me answers to all those questions and I'll upload a screenshot
somewhere to help pursue the answer to 'what makes the display show
black boxes in that configuration?'. I don't need any /other/ answers or
help right now since I can already make the black boxes go away.

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Mike Easter

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Jan 2, 2011, 9:45:32 AM1/2/11
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Mike Easter wrote:

> What it was/is doing great for me is an excellent job of printing a
> crossword puzzle clearly and distinctly including all of the grid lines

> 146.5%.

> Other tools such as FoxIt or Adobe gave 'imperfect' results of slightly
> wavy grid lines or smudgy/blurry tiny grid numbers and would only let me
> select a preset value of scaling such as 100 125 150%.

Another thing that pdfxchange will do which foxit won't is
'surround'/select a snapshot which is not all visible in the window at
one time.

Adobe Reader will do it by 'autoscrolling' the window when you move the
snapshot cursor out of the window during the selection process.
Pdfxchange will do it by using the arrow keys while the L mouse button
is depressed without losing its 'grip' where you started the snapshot
selection draw.

FoxIt loses its fix on the snapshot's earlier anchor/corner selection if
you change the window's view to something which is/was off screen by
using the arrow keys.


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k3l...@gmail.com

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Feb 19, 2013, 11:05:14 PM2/19/13
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When you are printing, at the bottom of the message box, under print options, select print as image. That should solve ur problem... :)



On Thursday, December 30, 2010 3:42:51 AM UTC+8, Mike Easter wrote:
> I've recently started using PDF-XChange Viewer v.2.0 and I like it
> better than others such as FoxIt or Adobe's.
>
> But...
>
> ... recently I've run into some .pdf/s which have elements which don't
> display. Instead of displaying properly, they show a black box where the
> graphic is supposed to be. If I view the .pdf with Adobe or FoxIt or a
> linux viewer such as document viewer, then the black box parts show
> normally.
>
> I searched with the knowledgebase tool at the tracker-software developer
> site, but I can't find mention of this black box business yet.
>
> Is anyone else familiar with this problem? I would like to give some
> feedback to the developer, but I don't yet know how to define the issue.
> other than sending him an example .pdf.
>
> Recent examples: a .pdf manual for a cordless phone had a few places, my
> newspaper's .pdf of their crossword puzzle page had another. On that
> newspaper page which had two puzzles, one puzzle displayed normally, one
> puzzle was a big black rectangle, but it displayed normally in all other
> viewers. Same difference for the manual elements.
>
>
> --
> Mike Easter

ute...@gmail.com

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Feb 17, 2018, 11:05:48 AM2/17/18
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The problem just emerged on my windows 10 machine, 8 years after this thread. Still using pdf xchange viewer. It has just some soo nifty features.

Solution for me: turn off "Override Document Colors" under "Accessibility".

Maybe it helps someone still. Or myself, when I've forgotten the solution.

Cheers Ute.

Shadow

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On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 17:14:15 +0100, Yrrah <Yrra...@acf.invalid>
wrote:

>ute...@gmail.com:
>What exactly was the problem?

He was replying to a post Mike Easter made ....

Message-ID: <8o1h9s...@mid.individual.net>

It's probably a Win 10 thing. Never happened to me .....
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May 2, 2018, 10:40:54 AM5/2/18
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SOLVED it for me. Finally, after months of this bugging me at home and work, this solution worked. It was basically any coloured sections getting blacked out. I have no recollection of changing the accessibility settings myself, certainly not on two separate machines, so it must have been the default in some version upgrade. Hoorah I can avoid horrid Acrobat again.

occam

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May 2, 2018, 12:45:32 PM5/2/18
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The alternative to PDFXChange Viewer is PDFXChange Editor. Once you
switch off the paid-for features, it seems to work just as well as
Viewer. There is a portable version to boot.

Flasherly

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May 2, 2018, 2:29:18 PM5/2/18
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On Wed, 2 May 2018 18:45:26 +0200, occam <oc...@invalid.nix> wrote:

>>
SOLVED it for me. Finally, after months of this bugging me at home and
work, this solution worked. It was basically any coloured sections
getting blacked out. I have no recollection of changing the
accessibility settings myself, certainly not on two separate machines,
so it must have been the default in some version upgrade. Hoorah I can
avoid horrid Acrobat again.
>>
>
>The alternative to PDFXChange Viewer is PDFXChange Editor. Once you
>switch off the paid-for features, it seems to work just as well as
>Viewer. There is a portable version to boot.

Horrid PDF, horrid WEB browsers. Although browsers and the WEB are of
course never 100% perfect, I suppose, now rather more than ever
before, at least for 100% of the time. Nor are PDF formats, while not
exploitative, rightly to be aspects other than not altogether seemly,
at best, if to say merely a potential contingency, to be sure, and not
the outright affront.

I use some old PDF ports, dated command-line interfaces --
perfunctorily editorial rags of remnants for splitting and combining
PDFs -- and a cracked but aesthetic interface of a viewer for perusing
the matter, short of the tenable actuality. A basic HTML, while
lacking altogether any MSFT accoutrements, or all but a text file with
gif references, would surely seem to pose some validity when
considering a studded history of ingenuousness surrounding PDF
freeware. However seemly, indeed, should a slight but distinct smell
be to a rot for authoring in the format, as might some allude to any
contact with Adobe.

Then again, as a industrial standard for instruction means for
digitized computer formats, (sic) industrial standards to stand over a
mass for wholesale entrepreneurial utilization, is hardly but the soul
of brevity to any allusion of an early WEB and an era of "freer"
naïvety. As would be reasonably expected, perhaps, to assume no more
can be other than little else is by now.

Charles Louwagie

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Jul 29, 2023, 11:16:45 AM7/29/23
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Up you go!

Thanks for the solution :)
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