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John C.

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Jul 9, 2020, 1:46:21 AM7/9/20
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Some freeware like the K-Lite Codec Pack and Calibre (and of course,
there are others) are simply too actively maintained (not that this is a
bad thing, of course) for me to continually be updating them. I've
settled on versions that do what I need and pretty much have just
stopped updating them.

If an update is compelling because of new features or necessary new
security changes though, I'll invest the time in doing the update.

I'm betting that a lot of you feel the same way about updating.

--
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share, spy, time-limited, trial or web wares for me please. I filter out
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by Arlen Holder. I recommend you do likewise.

VanguardLH

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Jul 9, 2020, 4:33:32 AM7/9/20
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"John C." <r9j...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Some freeware like the K-Lite Codec Pack and Calibre (and of course,
> there are others) are simply too actively maintained (not that this is a
> bad thing, of course) for me to continually be updating them. I've
> settled on versions that do what I need and pretty much have just
> stopped updating them.
>
> If an update is compelling because of new features or necessary new
> security changes though, I'll invest the time in doing the update.
>
> I'm betting that a lot of you feel the same way about updating.

Oh goodie, another "What I did today" diary entry dumped in Usenet.

For K-Lite, he finally discovered one, or more, of:
- The auto-update check (klcp_update) event in Task Scheduler.
- The update interval setting in the CodecTweakTool.exe program.
Or maybe he's publicing exposing himself by declaring he will ignore the
notification.

For Calibre, guess Johnny finally:
- Delved into the configuration settings for Calibre to go under
Preferences -> Interface -> Behavior to switch off the notification.
- Or finally noticed the checkbox in the notification popup to disable
it.

So, I wonder if we'll see more diary entries from Johnny as he explores
the other software he has installed to disable their update
notifications, too.

Don't be concerned about Johnny's reaction to mine. He previously
promised to plonk me.

p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

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Jul 9, 2020, 4:38:37 AM7/9/20
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This could go viral.

Sent from my iFurryUnderbelly.

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Jenny Telia

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Jul 9, 2020, 9:00:47 AM7/9/20
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You're a cruel agitator, pooh! How could you upset your mate Corlis this
way <insincere sad face>

p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

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Jul 9, 2020, 9:25:38 AM7/9/20
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On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 15:00:40 +0200, Jenny Telia <jnyt...@gmail.com>
wrote:
TBH, I was thinking more along the lines of VLH, rightly or wrongly
being subjected to an Internet 'shaming' followed by lots of outrage and
a damn fine public 'canceling', and if we're very lucky a toppling of
his statue at some indeterminate date in the future, but you're right,
it could go either way!

p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

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Jul 9, 2020, 9:30:49 AM7/9/20
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On Thu, 09 Jul 2020 14:24:21 +0200, Yrrah <Yrra...@acf.invalid> wrote:

>"John C." <r9j...@yahoo.com>:
>
>> Some freeware like the K-Lite Codec Pack and Calibre
>> (...)
>
>You use Calibre???
>"Usage statistics are collected whenever a user starts calibre. Every
>calibre installation has a unique ID, this ID remains unchanged by
>upgrades and even an uninstall/re-install."
>https://calibre-ebook.com/dynamic/calibre-usage

He only uses it on Windows 10 with his fingers crossed the whole time so
nerney to you.

Bleedin' amateurs. Windows 10 101. Read it!

John C.

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Jul 10, 2020, 4:44:31 AM7/10/20
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VanguardLH got off his meds again and spewed:
> John C.wrote:
>>
>> Some freeware like the K-Lite Codec Pack and Calibre (and of course,
>> there are others) are simply too actively maintained (not that this is a
>> bad thing, of course) for me to continually be updating them. I've
>> settled on versions that do what I need and pretty much have just
>> stopped updating them.
>>
>> If an update is compelling because of new features or necessary new
>> security changes though, I'll invest the time in doing the update.
>>
>> I'm betting that a lot of you feel the same way about updating.
>
> Oh goodie, another "What I did today" diary entry dumped in Usenet.

What are you babbling on about?

> For K-Lite, he finally discovered one, or more, of:
> - The auto-update check (klcp_update) event in Task Scheduler.
> - The update interval setting in the CodecTweakTool.exe program.
> Or maybe he's publicing exposing himself by declaring he will ignore the
> notification.

I've known about that setting for years.

> For Calibre, guess Johnny finally:
> - Delved into the configuration settings for Calibre to go under
> Preferences -> Interface -> Behavior to switch off the notification.
> - Or finally noticed the checkbox in the notification popup to disable
> it.

Same here.

> So, I wonder if we'll see more diary entries from Johnny as he explores
> the other software he has installed to disable their update
> notifications, too.
>
> Don't be concerned about Johnny's reaction to mine. He previously
> promised to plonk me.

I unblocked you and removed you from my signature file. I can see now
that was a mistake.

Wow, what a complete ass you are. This newsgroup is alt.comp.freeware.
It's for the discussion of freeware. My OP was regarding freeware.

WHAT'S IS YOUR PROBLEM WITH THAT, YOU JERK?

Why don't you write another one of your unrequested, rambling, neurotic,
excessively detailed set of instructions for something totally unrelated
to what anything I said? Maybe that will keep you out of trouble for a
while, little boy.

John C.

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Jul 10, 2020, 5:10:10 AM7/10/20
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Yrrah wrote:
> John C. wrote:
>>
>> Some freeware like the K-Lite Codec Pack and Calibre
>> (...)
>
> You use Calibre???
> "Usage statistics are collected whenever a user starts calibre. Every
> calibre installation has a unique ID, this ID remains unchanged by
> upgrades and even an uninstall/re-install."
> https://calibre-ebook.com/dynamic/calibre-usage

I don't use the program very much anymore, but in a pinch it can work. I
was just using it as an example of programs that update too often.

Frank M.

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Jul 10, 2020, 8:05:35 AM7/10/20
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On 7/10/2020 4:44 AM, John C. wrote:

<...>

> This newsgroup is alt.comp.freeware. It's for the discussion of
> freeware. My OP was regarding freeware.

That's not exactly true. Your OP was more about you, and how you are
getting fed up with having to "continually be updating" certain software
that no one but you was interested in discussing.

Is there anyone else here who notices the number of times JohnC uses
"I", "me", "my", and "mine" in his posts? Try counting them some time.
It's more about him and what he has done, or what he is planning on
doing some time in the future. He just uses freeware as the spark so he
can talk about himself...

> WHAT'S IS YOUR PROBLEM WITH THAT, YOU JERK?

...and then he gets very upset if someone brings it up here.

Has anyone ever wondered why he came back to ACF after his lengthy absence?

He had to.

He couldn't be a narcissist all by himself.


Flasherly

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Jul 10, 2020, 1:06:42 PM7/10/20
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On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 08:05:28 -0400, "Frank M." <frank...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Has anyone ever wondered why he came back to ACF after his lengthy absence?

>He had to.
>He couldn't be a narcissist all by himself.

Very original.

When the first gods created mankind, they obviously screwed on his
head backwards;- it wasn't fire, in pity, reasonably the gods
belatedly thought to give man, but, in fact, to turn his head
backaround, which in turn altered a perception of forward perspective:
Confronting thus another phenomenological being became sentiently
obtuse, now that his head was back, so screwed around
counterclockwise, no less to an anarchist viewpoint, latently assumed
assuring, so simply at first effort, whereupon it was then, unto
coming in directness forwardly, as a reflection of his expanding
genius upon physically approaching his reflection, than one merely by
a receding ass, indeed, as might once men formerly have assumed their
true endowment.

(Beta Folklore, the Greek Revetment to Revision 1.01 [opcit.,
Mythology;- attrib. A.Bloom/Univ. of Chicago])

John C.

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Jul 10, 2020, 3:14:03 PM7/10/20
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Frank M. wrote:
> John C. wrote:
>
> <...>
>
>> This newsgroup is alt.comp.freeware. It's for the discussion of
>> freeware. My OP was regarding freeware.
>
> That's not exactly true. Your OP was more about you, and how you are
> getting fed up with having to "continually be updating" certain software
> that no one but you was interested in discussing.

Nonsense. You're putting words in my mouth. I'm not "fed up" with
anything of the sort, just don't have time to do it as often as updates
come around for some programs and was curious to see if others did the
same. The freeware I mentioned in the OP were merely examples. There are
other programs which are also updated very frequently.

> Is there anyone else here who notices the number of times JohnC uses
> "I", "me", "my", and "mine" in his posts? Try counting them some time.
> It's more about him and what he has done, or what he is planning on
> doing some time in the future. He just uses freeware as the spark so he
> can talk about himself...
>
>> WHAT'S IS YOUR PROBLEM WITH THAT, YOU JERK?
>
> ...and then he gets very upset if someone brings it up here.
>
> Has anyone ever wondered why he came back to ACF after his lengthy absence?

I never left, asshole. I was lurking the whole time.

> He had to. He couldn't be a narcissist all by himself.

Bark bark woof woof.

On a scale of one to ten, I give your troll a one. Since I can only find
this one message from your nym, I can only assume that you're a sock
puppet for somebody like >>Q<< or some other such idiot.

I've certainly posted more about freeware than YOU have.

Frank Morgan

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Jul 10, 2020, 3:42:37 PM7/10/20
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On 7/10/2020 3:13 PM, John C. wrote:

> I've certainly posted more about freeware than YOU have.


You like to call it that, but your use of the words "I", "me", "my", and
"mine" make it very obvious that you're actually only interested in
making yourself the center of attention.

And whether or not you were lurking in the background, you were still
absent from the newsgroup. You had to come back so you could talk about
yourself some more. You were only lurking so you could determine when
would be the best time to, as it were, resurrect yourself from the dead.


Shadow

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Jul 10, 2020, 4:37:20 PM7/10/20
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On Thu, 09 Jul 2020 14:24:21 +0200, Yrrah <Yrra...@acf.invalid>
wrote:

>"John C." <r9j...@yahoo.com>:
>
>> Some freeware like the K-Lite Codec Pack and Calibre
>> (...)
>
>You use Calibre???
>"Usage statistics are collected whenever a user starts calibre. Every
>calibre installation has a unique ID, this ID remains unchanged by
>upgrades and even an uninstall/re-install."
>https://calibre-ebook.com/dynamic/calibre-usage

A firewall blocks it.
And I agree with JC. Don't update software if it works. For
new useful features give the update a 2 week quarantine. If you've
lived without the new features for years, a couple of weeks is
nothing.
You ain't paranoid if they ARE out to get you.
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

Flasherly

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Jul 10, 2020, 6:37:23 PM7/10/20
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On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 17:35:22 -0300, Shadow <S...@dow.br> wrote:

>A firewall blocks it.
> And I agree with JC. Don't update software if it works. For
>new useful features give the update a 2 week quarantine. If you've
>lived without the new features for years, a couple of weeks is
>nothing.
> You ain't paranoid if they ARE out to get you.

Caliber is WEB-centric, although it needn't cater, per force, to
everything it purports: 1) Get book metadata (covers), 2) Get E-Books
(seems indistinguishable from an same entity labeled Stores, IOW I'm
not seeing per se Project Gutenberg), 3) Surprise, surprise ... it's
also a handy dandy News Aggregator.

That none of that matters to actually reading a book, other than
having discovered there's decidedly worse than Calibre, especially
should one have nothing better than zippo when in instance of
comicbook reading, inclusive of at least a rather extensive if not
impressive list of text-format extensions Calibre would claim to
support.

Calibre knows and so do you, how long's it going to be before
resistance is futile and the NewsReader, Book MetaData, and _Store
Front_ button do and will in point get pressed;- Sorry, but Calibre's
just not about those sorts of programs that are more fun play with
once circumvented and not connected;- It's somehow shaking its ass
prettily.

I'd imagine. Beyond verifying what was initially needed, there really
hasn't been that impetus here . . . ("portability" also works as
warranted, once the rug gets jerked out beneath with a OS binary
reimage).

calibre-portable-installer-1.48.0.exe 10/6/2015 50,470,520

(In case, FYI, of an unknown portable instance, and if still legally
in existence;- portables may be a preferable update to mucking with OS
dependencies or otherwise for others.)

John C.

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Jul 11, 2020, 1:27:50 AM7/11/20
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Frank Morgan wrote:
> John C. wrote:
>
>> I've certainly posted more about freeware than YOU have.
>
> You like to call it that, but your use of the words "I", "me", "my", and
> "mine" make it very obvious that you're actually only interested in
> making yourself the center of attention.

Nonsense. I've posted many, many times about updates, recommended
freeware to many, many people.

> And whether or not you were lurking in the background, you were still
> absent from the newsgroup. You had to come back so you could talk about
> yourself some more. You were only lurking so you could determine when
> would be the best time to, as it were, resurrect yourself from the dead.

Why don't you go suck shit through a straw, "Frank".

Over and out.

John C.

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Jul 11, 2020, 1:31:56 AM7/11/20
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Shadow wrote:
> Yrrah wrote:
>> John C. wrote:
>>>
>>> Some freeware like the K-Lite Codec Pack and Calibre
>>> (...)
>>
>> You use Calibre???
>> "Usage statistics are collected whenever a user starts calibre. Every
>> calibre installation has a unique ID, this ID remains unchanged by
>> upgrades and even an uninstall/re-install."
>> https://calibre-ebook.com/dynamic/calibre-usage
>
> A firewall blocks it.

Still wish there was a firewall like Kerio 2.1.5 that works in W7 64bit.
The built in firewall can be told to block a program, but it's kind of
clunky.

> And I agree with JC. Don't update software if it works. For
> new useful features give the update a 2 week quarantine. If you've
> lived without the new features for years, a couple of weeks is
> nothing.

A very good policy, one I usually follow myself.

> You ain't paranoid if they ARE out to get you

Frank Morgan

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Jul 11, 2020, 8:15:53 AM7/11/20
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On 7/11/2020 1:27 AM, John C. wrote:
> Frank Morgan wrote:
>> John C. wrote:
>>
>>> I've certainly posted more about freeware than YOU have.
>>
>> You like to call it that, but your use of the words "I", "me", "my", and
>> "mine" make it very obvious that you're actually only interested in
>> making yourself the center of attention.



> Nonsense. I've posted many, many times about updates, recommended
> freeware to many, many people.


I never said you didn't. In fact, what better way is there to be the
ringleader in the center ring than to "recommend freeware to many, many
people" whether they asked for it or not. What I'm saying, and what
you're obviously evading, is that your use of the words "I", "me", "my",
and "mine" clearly show that you like being the center of attention. You
have to talk about freeware because, well, after all this is a newsgroup
about freeware. But you actually talk more about you than about freeware.


>> And whether or not you were lurking in the background, you were still
>> absent from the newsgroup. You had to come back so you could talk about
>> yourself some more. You were only lurking so you could determine when
>> would be the best time to, as it were, resurrect yourself from the dead.



> Why don't you go <snip highly emotional vulgar response>.



And once again, you prove how much you dislike it when someone reveals
your strong narcissistic tendencies. I guess it must not be as much fun
being a narcissist when everyone knows you're a narcissist.



<>

Shadow

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Jul 11, 2020, 2:20:21 PM7/11/20
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On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 18:37:13 -0400, Flasherly <Flas...@live.com>
wrote:
That's the one I use(very occasionally). It does what it
promises to do. Converts e-books into other formats. I don't need any
other "features".
>
>(In case, FYI, of an unknown portable instance, and if still legally
>in existence;- portables may be a preferable update to mucking with OS
>dependencies or otherwise for others.)

Shadow

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Jul 11, 2020, 2:26:22 PM7/11/20
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On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 22:31:46 -0700, "John C." <r9j...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Shadow wrote:
>> Yrrah wrote:
>>> John C. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Some freeware like the K-Lite Codec Pack and Calibre
>>>> (...)
>>>
>>> You use Calibre???
>>> "Usage statistics are collected whenever a user starts calibre. Every
>>> calibre installation has a unique ID, this ID remains unchanged by
>>> upgrades and even an uninstall/re-install."
>>> https://calibre-ebook.com/dynamic/calibre-usage
>>
>> A firewall blocks it.
>
>Still wish there was a firewall like Kerio 2.1.5 that works in W7 64bit.
>The built in firewall can be told to block a program, but it's kind of
>clunky.

Have you tried Private firewall?

http://m.majorgeeks.com/files/details/privatefirewall.html

I installed it on my mother's laptop and the configuration is
very similar to Kerio's. Kept he safe all these years.
Last release was in 2013. You can disable any "non-firewall"
"features". It probably has vulnerabilities, but is not a deliberate
backdoor like M$'s offering.
[]'s
>
>> And I agree with JC. Don't update software if it works. For
>> new useful features give the update a 2 week quarantine. If you've
>> lived without the new features for years, a couple of weeks is
>> nothing.
>
>A very good policy, one I usually follow myself.
>
>> You ain't paranoid if they ARE out to get you
--

Shadow

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Jul 11, 2020, 2:31:21 PM7/11/20
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On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 08:15:52 -0400, Frank Morgan
<frank...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 7/11/2020 1:27 AM, John C. wrote:
>> Frank Morgan wrote:
>>> John C. wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've certainly posted more about freeware than YOU have.
>>>
>>> You like to call it that, but your use of the words "I", "me", "my", and
>>> "mine" make it very obvious that you're actually only interested in
>>> making yourself the center of attention.
>
>
>
>> Nonsense. I've posted many, many times about updates, recommended
>> freeware to many, many people.
>
>
>I never said you didn't. In fact, what better way is there to be the
>ringleader in the center ring than to "recommend freeware to many, many
>people" whether they asked for it or not. What I'm saying, and what
>you're obviously evading, is that your use of the words "I", "me", "my",
>and "mine" clearly show that you like being the center of attention. You
>have to talk about freeware because, well, after all this is a newsgroup
>about freeware. But you actually talk more about you than about freeware.

This group is for people that want to give their PERSONAL
opinions circa freeware. And for others that read their advice. If you
are looking for general announcements, go to Softpedia. They'll serve
you well.

><remaining trollage snitted>

Did I say "snitted"? Must have been a lapse.
[]'s

John C.

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Jul 11, 2020, 3:34:47 PM7/11/20
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Shadow wrote:
> John C. wrote:
>>
>> (snip)
>> Still wish there was a firewall like Kerio 2.1.5 that works in W7 64bit.
>> The built in firewall can be told to block a program, but it's kind of
>> clunky.
>
> Have you tried Private firewall?
>
> http://m.majorgeeks.com/files/details/privatefirewall.html
>
> I installed it on my mother's laptop and the configuration is
> very similar to Kerio's. Kept he safe all these years.
> Last release was in 2013. You can disable any "non-firewall"
> "features". It probably has vulnerabilities, but is not a deliberate
> backdoor like M$'s offering.

Yes, I used to install it on other people's computer and nobody
complained. I even ran it a while myself and it did the job. I think I
went back to Kerio 2.1.5 eventually though.

I still have a version of Private Firewall's setup file (9.0.333.0). I
also have 7.0.30.3.

IIRC, I was one of the first people in this newsgroup to mention a
firewall. It was called "Atguard" from a company called WRQ. They didn't
even call it a firewall back then, although that is what it was.
Eventually they sold out to Symantec.

Steve Gibson did a firewall study and set up a website with the results
here:

https://www.grc.com/lt/scoreboard.htm

Frank Morgan

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Jul 11, 2020, 3:36:17 PM7/11/20
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On 7/11/2020 2:30 PM, Shadow wrote:

> This group is for people that want to give their PERSONAL
> opinions circa freeware. And for others that read their advice.
If that was all JohnC ever wrote about in his posts I wouldn't
be responding to your post right now.





John C.

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Jul 11, 2020, 4:09:25 PM7/11/20
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"Frank Morgan" AKA VanguardLH. The latter switched to this sock puppet
because he was afraid I had set up a filter for his posts again and was
butthurt when I criticized his lengthy, neurotic, instructional posts.
Now, like a little child he's lashing out at me and trying to get even
through this sock. There are only three messages from "Frank Morgon"
going back to a year ago, and they were all posted yesterday and today.

In the past, he's posted his lengthy, excessively detailed replies to my
OPs and they had nothing to do with what I was either talking or asking
about. I tried to tell him that this was the case in order to spare him
some effort, and then his attitude turned shitty. Eventually, I got
pissed off as his behavior and killfiled his ass.

Because I knew he'd keep bad mouthing me behind my back though, I had to
explain in my signature file that I was filtering his posts so that
people would understand why I wasn't replying to his provocations.

Then a couple of weeks ago, I removed the signature file inclusion and
deleted the filter. As no surprise to me, he came back around and
started acting like a complete jerk again, badmouthing me and calling me
names. That was when I made the remark about his neurotic, lengthy posts
to shut his ass up.

Suddenly "Frank" appears from out of nowhere and everything he says
tells me that he's VLH.

To be fair, some of his posts have been very helpful in the past, very
informative. If he could just stop being such a butthole though. I just
got sick and tired of tip-toeing around his angry, impolite behavior. He
began mistaking my courtesy as weakness, an error others have made IRL.

BouffantTHairdo

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Jul 11, 2020, 6:22:49 PM7/11/20
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On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 08:15:52 -0400, Frank Morgan <frank...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>And once again

*plonk*

John C.

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Jul 12, 2020, 2:05:31 AM7/12/20
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Shadow wrote:
> Flasherly wrote:
Flasherly seems to be a very nice person and very knowledgeable, but
unfortunately his posts are very difficult if not impossible to
understand. Can anybody translate what Shadow quoted from him (or her)
above? TIA.

John C.

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Jul 12, 2020, 2:19:09 AM7/12/20
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Privatefirewall is now $ware called "ThreatSentry":

http://www.privacyware.com/threatsentry.html

John C.

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Jul 12, 2020, 2:32:42 AM7/12/20
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The last version of PrivateFirewall was 9.0.333.0. On July 11, 2016 it
disappeared from the Privacyware website and ThreatSentry appeared, on
sale for a mere $649.

Shadow

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Jul 12, 2020, 8:32:06 AM7/12/20
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On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 23:05:19 -0700, "John C." <r9j...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
He mentioned the last malware-free version of Calibre. Well,
almost malware-free. Just block it with a firewall.
Later versions try to mine details of books you are trying to
convert. Probably to hand over to DMCA cronies. NEVER use the online
"features".
As to the rest of the text, well, I speed-read it. Well, I
think I did, I can't remember the content. LOL

Shadow

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Jul 12, 2020, 8:47:06 AM7/12/20
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On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 23:19:00 -0700, "John C." <r9j...@yahoo.com>
Why update? The older version works and is available.. It's
not time-limited.
Sure it has vulnerabilities, but very few (if any) hackers
target it.

As to Atguard, I used it(I think it was done by a Russian
guy). Also Outpost (also Russian) and Sygate(American, and subject to
NSA "tweaks", bought and killed by Norton).
Atguard was primitive, Sygate leaked. I finally settled on
Kerio(later bought by "bad guys", version 2.15 is clean).
Good thing about Russian and Chinese software is you can be
sure the NSA audits every single byte. Any backdoors would be revealed
in days.
[]'s

Shadow

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Jul 12, 2020, 8:54:07 AM7/12/20
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On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 23:32:31 -0700, "John C." <r9j...@yahoo.com>
Go with the Majorgeeks version. 7.0.30.3. After that the
homepage started giving me hinkys(at one stage you had to identify
yourself to get to the download page). LOL. And I downloaded same
versions with different checksums depending on which wireless network
I was "borrowing". Almost as if I was getting a "personalized"
version.
I don't trust later versions.
Old != bad.
[]'s

Frank Morgan

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Jul 12, 2020, 10:04:13 AM7/12/20
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On 7/11/2020 4:09 PM, John C. wrote:
> Frank Morgan wrote:

>> If that was all JohnC ever wrote about in his posts I wouldn't
>> be responding to your post right now.
>
> "Frank Morgan" AKA VanguardLH. <snip excessive gum flapping>


Would you be interested in finding out for yourself, (since reading
it from one or both of us will never convince you,) that I am not
VanguardLH, nor is he Frank Morgan, and if so can you think of
any way that it can become an irrefutable fact in your mind, one
that you discovered with no help from anyone else?

Whether your answer to that question is a yes or a no, can you see
the catch 22 (or self-fulfilling prophecy) that you have created?

Just for the record, I am not VanguardLH, nor have I ever used the
name "VanguardLH" as a pseudonym for myself.

But the burden of proof is on you, since you made the assertion above.

Flasherly

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Jul 12, 2020, 12:23:39 PM7/12/20
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On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 15:18:53 -0300, Shadow <S...@dow.br> wrote:

>That's the one I use(very occasionally). It does what it
>promises to do. Converts e-books into other formats. I don't need any
>other "features".

I do. I mean I've used it in that context (PDF to ASCII), although
getting used to improved transitional results is going to take more
effort on part.

Another thing, this is per se Information Sharing we're dealing with
-- we can't expect everything to continue along with Adobe's
contribution to universal dissemination of dominant informational
standards;- nor, perhaps, should conceptually at least that be a case.

Calibre is already the interim and result for wider publishing
standards now encountered: When I first downloaded Calibre (portable
version presumably dated for five or more years ago), it was for
MOBI(?) formatted documents I'd confronted, something now more apt
"featured" whether or not you like it, that's damned handy, in need to
know, when in fact one can read it. Anyway, these were (MOBI) books
in want to happen upon, at the time, damned hard for me to find
Calibre;- a degree of freeware located between all the come-on
jerk-offs and servicing software publishing, I recall wading through,
for acceptance of wider formats available these days.

Flasherly

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Jul 12, 2020, 1:00:39 PM7/12/20
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On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 23:05:19 -0700, "John C." <r9j...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Flasherly seems to be a very nice person and very knowledgeable, but
>unfortunately his posts are very difficult if not impossible to
>understand. Can anybody translate what Shadow quoted from him (or her)
>above? TIA.

I looked Calibre over.

Calibre obviously is not only about book.

Calibre is allied to:

a) Syndicate News Distribution.
b) Providers Book Covers and other book regalia*.
c) WEB StoreFronts that publish electronic books for a profit.

Thus to reason and diagram out:

[Clause1] Calibre has WEB dependencies not undue its nature, whereas
[Clause2] other freeware may in fact not need a broader
"WEB-centricity", (sic) to a secondary instance to perform a function
within a purpose stated.

Logically, think carefully now, the above two clauses do not entitle
lumping them together: Calibre for a type of freeware suspiciously
making WEB contacts, then, when there is no obvious need, perforce,
that a function of [Clause2] programs correspond to Calibre to such
behaviorism in some sense established already transcended.

See...that wasn't so hard, a little bit of philosophy, smidgen of
logic, a sentence or two over five words, now was it?

-
usage: The word regalia comes from Latin and is, technically speaking,
the plural of regalis. However, in the way the word is used in English
today it behaves as a collective noun, similar to words like staff or
government. This means that it can be used with either a singular or
plural verb (the regalia of Russian tsardom is now displayed in the
Kremlin or the regalia of Russian tsardom are now displayed in the
Kremlin), but it has no other singular form.

John C.

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Jul 13, 2020, 1:22:07 AM7/13/20
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? I would never use ThreatSentry.

> Sure it has vulnerabilities, but very few (if any) hackers
> target it.
>
> As to Atguard, I used it(I think it was done by a Russian
> guy). Also Outpost (also Russian) and Sygate(American, and subject to
> NSA "tweaks", bought and killed by Norton).
> Atguard was primitive, Sygate leaked. I finally settled on
> Kerio(later bought by "bad guys", version 2.15 is clean).
> Good thing about Russian and Chinese software is you can be
> sure the NSA audits every single byte. Any backdoors would be revealed
> in days.

Pretty much how I remember things. I never used Sygate, although it was
mentioned frequently here in ACF.

Kerio is still around, but as payware called "KerioControl" from "GFI
Software".

--
John Corliss BS206. No ad, CD, commercial, cripple, demo, nag, pirated,
share, spy, time-limited, trial or web wares for me please. I filter out
posts made from Google Groups, cross-posted messages and anything posted
by Arlen Holder or the troll calling himself "Frank Morgan". I recommend
you do likewise.

Frank Morgan

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Jul 13, 2020, 8:28:50 AM7/13/20
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On 7/13/2020 1:22 AM, John C. wrote:

> ...the troll calling himself "Frank Morgan".


So you admit that you are unable to prove the assertion you made,
and that it was a lie: "Frank Morgan" AKA VanguardLH.

You admitting you are a liar is all I was wanting you to do.

If others reading your posts are beginning to count the number of
times you use the words "I", "me", "my", and "mine", and compare
that to the number of times others use those words in their posts
then the time I've spent here has been a success.

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