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Bear

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Feb 12, 2012, 12:42:13 PM2/12/12
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I can easily filter on email addys but can't find custom filter
examples...specifically filtering on path contains. I am also interested
in all filtering custom syntax if it exists.
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news.sunsite.dk!dotsrc.org!filter.dotsrc.org!news.dotsrc.org!not-for-mail

mike

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Feb 12, 2012, 12:56:45 PM2/12/12
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On 2/12/2012 9:42 AM, Bear wrote:
> I can easily filter on email addys but can't find custom filter
> examples...specifically filtering on path contains. I am also interested
> in all filtering custom syntax if it exists.

I route all my incoming mail through gmail. Gmail has some decent filters.
Filtered mail gets forwarded to email at my ISP.
No matter which computer I use to read mail, it's all filtered.
And the filtered stuff is archived on gmail if I ever need it.

Bear

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Feb 12, 2012, 1:29:02 PM2/12/12
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Sorry...I am specifically referring to Usenet.

Gmail does have by and far the best email filtering out there.

Mike Easter

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Feb 12, 2012, 1:49:38 PM2/12/12
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Bear wrote:
> I can easily filter on email addys but can't find custom filter
> examples...specifically filtering on path contains. I am also
> interested in all filtering custom syntax if it exists.

Thunderbird's weaknesses compared to 'dedicated' newsagents are that it
doesn't do regular expressions and it doesn't do wildcards and it can't
score. Tbird gained the ability to make a custom filter a while back,
but it is still quite weak compared to others which have those features.

Any usenet filter such as adding a proxy like Nfilter which has some
regex and wildcard and scoring muscle in front of Tbird is going to do
better if the filtered/scored term/string is in the overview.

Another strategy is to use a home news server in front of Tb.

The late news.software.readers denizen Blinky talked about such problems
in his UIP treatise, which has been retained here^1 since his demise.

^1 http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.html Filters -
Examples 2 - Hamster (Windows) - NewsProxy (old name: nfilter) (for Windows)




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Mike Easter

Bear

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Feb 12, 2012, 2:16:41 PM2/12/12
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On 2/12/2012 12:49 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
> Another strategy is to use a home news server in front of Tb.

A home news server sounds interesting. It prompts my thoughts that it
would download the messages with better filtering capability and
Thunderbird would be pointed to that.

Is that what you mean? If so, an inept "home news server" search turns
up a mess...any suggestions or correction to my thought?

p00h the kat

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Feb 12, 2012, 2:24:32 PM2/12/12
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On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:16:41 -0600, Bear <bearbott...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 2/12/2012 12:49 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
>> Another strategy is to use a home news server in front of Tb.
>
>A home news server sounds interesting. It prompts my thoughts that it
>would download the messages with better filtering capability and
>Thunderbird would be pointed to that.
>
>Is that what you mean? If so, an inept "home news server" search turns
>up a mess...any suggestions or correction to my thought?

hampster you arseclown.

I guess this is the next fixation you are going to rain down upon us. Back to all those
nauseous filtering threads. So be it. It's a pity all you tossers can't just remove the
butt plugs, and live and let live, but hey, I'm a cat, if it's war you want, I've got some
new toys I might give a go.

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Devil incarnate, Linux user#666, BaStarD hacker

Mike Easter

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Feb 12, 2012, 3:58:49 PM2/12/12
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Bear wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> Another strategy is to use a home news server in front of Tb.
>
> A home news server sounds interesting. It prompts my thoughts that it
> would download the messages with better filtering capability and
> Thunderbird would be pointed to that.

Correct.

> Is that what you mean? If so, an inept "home news server" search turns
> up a mess...any suggestions or correction to my thought?

The Blinky-derived link had an intro to Hamster for Windows. The main
Hamster page^1 is old, so I don't know if it goes up to your Win7.

Here's a page at NIN about Hamster
http://news.individual.net/configuration/hamster-2.1-win-en.php Program
configuration for Hamster 2.1

<suggests Hamster for Win7>
http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/im-looking-news-server-software-run-windows-7-help-163797981.html
I'm looking for News Server software to run in Windows 7.

^1 http://www.elbiah.de/hamster/pg/ Hamster Playground is a free
newsserver (NNTP/usenet) and mailserver (POP3, SMTP) software, which
allows to collect news and mails from different servers. ... There is
mostly no support by mail, please use the hamster.en.* newsgroups
instead, e. g. hamster.en.misc. ... The hamster groups are also archived
at Google Groups,


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Mike Easter

Mike Easter

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Feb 12, 2012, 4:10:41 PM2/12/12
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Mike Easter wrote:

> The Blinky-derived link had an intro to Hamster for Windows. The
> main Hamster page^1 is old, so I don't know if it goes up to your
> Win7.

> please use the hamster.en.* newsgroups instead, e. g.
> hamster.en.misc. ... The hamster groups are also archived at Google
> Groups,

Here's an example of using Hamster with Win7 and also getting direct
email help on hamster.en.misc
http://groups.google.com/group/hamster.en.misc/browse_thread/thread/b649b65244132108/8de8ed0ee1b91bd0


Q: I'm running Hamster Playground on Windows 7 as a service. The problem
is ...

A: Can you please send the log (out of the file <hamster>/logs/*.log)...


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Mike Easter

Dustin

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Feb 12, 2012, 4:47:52 PM2/12/12
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Bear <bearbott...@gmail.com> wrote in news:4f381019$0$286$14726298
@news.sunsite.dk:

> On 2/12/2012 12:49 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
>> Another strategy is to use a home news server in front of Tb.
>
> A home news server sounds interesting. It prompts my thoughts that it
> would download the messages with better filtering capability and
> Thunderbird would be pointed to that.

LOL!

> Is that what you mean? If so, an inept "home news server" search turns
> up a mess...any suggestions or correction to my thought?

Hamster, tech wannabe.




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the only thing that's wrong is to get caught. - J.C. Watts

Bear Bottoms

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Feb 12, 2012, 11:51:49 PM2/12/12
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On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:47:52 GMT, Dustin wrote:

> Bear <bearbott...@gmail.com> wrote in news:4f381019$0$286$14726298
> @news.sunsite.dk:
>
>> On 2/12/2012 12:49 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
>>> Another strategy is to use a home news server in front of Tb.
>>
>> A home news server sounds interesting. It prompts my thoughts that it
>> would download the messages with better filtering capability and
>> Thunderbird would be pointed to that.
>
> LOL!
>
>> Is that what you mean? If so, an inept "home news server" search turns
>> up a mess...any suggestions or correction to my thought?
>
> Hamster, tech wannabe.

Denigration is for trolls and such. This you are.

Dustin

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Feb 13, 2012, 1:03:27 PM2/13/12
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Bear Bottoms <bearbott...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:jha4t4$ikv$1...@speranza.aioe.org:

> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:47:52 GMT, Dustin wrote:
>
>> Bear <bearbott...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:4f381019$0$286$14726298 @news.sunsite.dk:
>>
>>> On 2/12/2012 12:49 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>> Another strategy is to use a home news server in front of Tb.
>>>
>>> A home news server sounds interesting. It prompts my thoughts that
>>> it would download the messages with better filtering capability and
>>> Thunderbird would be pointed to that.
>>
>> LOL!
>>
>>> Is that what you mean? If so, an inept "home news server" search
>>> turns up a mess...any suggestions or correction to my thought?
>>
>> Hamster, tech wannabe.
>
> Denigration is for trolls and such. This you are.

Bear,

I'm simply a real tech who found your post funny considering the
braggart attitude you displayed as to having superior knowledge over
myself and others in another newsgroup. This is a trivial matter and it
would be expected if you truely had superior expertise and knowledge
then not only would you already know about it, You would have
implemented it long ago.

You thumb your nose at blue collared workers, but its us who actually
knows the stuff. You continue on a daily basis to demonstrate how little
you do know while maintaining an arrogant attitude--It's no wonder I
find myself questioning you so freely. You ask for it.

To try and label me a troll for my opinion further demonstrates your
ignorance of the IT world. Go lookup the definition, I don't meet it.
Although despite your arrogant self righteous better than someone else
attitude, you don't either.

Bear Bottoms

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Feb 13, 2012, 6:00:55 PM2/13/12
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Troll, you were sporged by a forger-troll and such. Follow headers.
Instead of your crotch.

Dustin

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Feb 13, 2012, 7:42:10 PM2/13/12
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Bear Bottoms <bearbott...@gmail.com> wrote in
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> From: Bear Bottoms <bearbott...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Thunderbird question
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> On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:03:27 GMT, Dustin wrote:
>
>> Bear Bottoms <bearbott...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:jha4t4$ikv$1...@speranza.aioe.org:
>>
>>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:47:52 GMT, Dustin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bear <bearbott...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:4f381019$0$286$14726298 @news.sunsite.dk:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/12/2012 12:49 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
>>>>>> Another strategy is to use a home news server in front of Tb.
>>>>>
>>>>> A home news server sounds interesting. It prompts my thoughts
>>>>> that it would download the messages with better filtering
>>>>> capability and Thunderbird would be pointed to that.
>>>>
>>>> LOL!
>>>>
>>>>> Is that what you mean? If so, an inept "home news server" search
>>>>> turns up a mess...any suggestions or correction to my thought?
>>>>
>>>> Hamster, tech wannabe.
>>>
>>> Denigration is for trolls and such. This you are.
>>
>> Bear,
>>
>> I'm simply a real tech who found your post funny considering the
>> braggart attitude you displayed as to having superior knowledge over
>> myself and others in another newsgroup. This is a trivial matter and
>> it would be expected if you truely had superior expertise and
>> knowledge then not only would you already know about it, You would
>> have implemented it long ago.
>>
>> You thumb your nose at blue collared workers, but its us who
>> actually knows the stuff. You continue on a daily basis to
>> demonstrate how little you do know while maintaining an arrogant
>> attitude--It's no wonder I find myself questioning you so freely.
>> You ask for it.
>>
>> To try and label me a troll for my opinion further demonstrates your
>> ignorance of the IT world. Go lookup the definition, I don't meet
>> it. Although despite your arrogant self righteous better than
>> someone else attitude, you don't either.
>
> Troll, you were sporged by a forger-troll and such. Follow headers.
> Instead of your crotch.

This is boring. Both "Bear Bottoms" I suppose are forgers, but... In any
event, it's bound to be one of the lamest methods of attacking another..
In this case Bear (He's not a complete fuckwit, and I dont intend to
mislead people into thinking as much). But, the usenet wannabe forging
techniques are lamer! yes, lamer! than a continous ping from a fast pipe
to a slow one. That used to be the lamest thing one could do to another.
Not even script kiddy knowledge required. LOL

Whoever you are, just use a more creative method from a technical aspect
and you'll not hear me whine.

Maurice Helwig

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Feb 15, 2012, 4:28:03 AM2/15/12
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I am building a replacement computer for a place where I do some
volunteer work a couple of days per week.

The old computer has Thunderbird version 10 running on Windows XP
professional OS.

The new computer has Thunderbird version 10 running on windows 7 64bit
Professional OS.

I would like to transfer all the emails, settings, archived emails
etc,etc, from the old computer to the new one if possible without having
to set everything up again from scratch.

I found this program which claims to do the job --

MozBackup - Backup tool for Firefox and Thunderbird

Has anyone tried this program. or knows of a way of doing this. It will
save a lot of time if everything can be moved across to the new computer
in one or two steps.

Any help would be appreciated

Maurice Helwig

Maurice Helwig

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Feb 15, 2012, 4:30:54 AM2/15/12
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Sorry for not including the link to MozBackup

http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/

Maurice Helwig

Mike Easter

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Feb 15, 2012, 6:59:51 AM2/15/12
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Maurice Helwig wrote:

> The old computer has Thunderbird version 10 running on Windows XP
> professional OS.
>
> The new computer has Thunderbird version 10 running on windows 7
> 64bit Professional OS.
>
> I would like to transfer all the emails, settings, archived emails
> etc,etc, from the old computer to the new one if possible without
> having to set everything up again from scratch.

I think this is a very useful article which also integrates mention of
MozBackUp http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_your_profile_folder Move
your profile from one computer to another when it's not practical to
back up your profile, copy the backed up files to the other computer and
then restore the backup using software like MozBackup that knows how to
update the profiles.ini file.

> I found this program which claims to do the job --
>
> MozBackup - Backup tool for Firefox and Thunderbird
>
> Has anyone tried this program. or knows of a way of doing this. It
> will save a lot of time if everything can be moved across to the new
> computer in one or two steps.

I don't have experience with mozbackup, but the m'zine kb also has an
article about it http://kb.mozillazine.org/MozBackup

The previous link is 'generically' useful, because mozbackup is a win
program, whereas the earlier description covers transferring profiles
between dissimilar OSes; Tb being crossplatform for Win, linux, & Mac.


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Mike Easter

Craig

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Feb 15, 2012, 9:50:18 AM2/15/12
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On 02/15/2012 03:59 AM, Mike Easter wrote:
> Maurice Helwig wrote:
>
>> The old computer has Thunderbird version 10 running on Windows XP
>> professional OS.
>>
>> The new computer has Thunderbird version 10 running on windows 7
>> 64bit Professional OS.
>>
>> I would like to transfer all the emails, settings, archived emails
>> etc,etc, from the old computer to the new one if possible without
>> having to set everything up again from scratch.
>
> I think this is a very useful article which also integrates mention of
> MozBackUp http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_your_profile_folder

This is the doc I reference whenever I am moving profiles whether among
Windows or between OSes. It's worked well.

--
-Craig
http://pricelesswarehome.org/

Rube Bumpkin

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Feb 15, 2012, 9:27:52 PM2/15/12
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I have used mozbackup on multiple computers, switching between XP and
Win7, and between 32 and 64. I have never seen a problem. It did the
whole job perfectly.

Al

Maurice Helwig

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Feb 16, 2012, 4:03:24 AM2/16/12
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Thank you for your feedback on Mozbackup I will be doing the transfer in
the next few days. Will let everyone know how it goes

Thanks to all for your input

Maurice Helwig















Maurice Helwig

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Feb 24, 2012, 4:34:56 PM2/24/12
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On 16/02/2012 12:27 PM, Rube Bumpkin wrote:
I have just used Mozbackup successfully to move all the settings from
Thunderbird on the old XP computer to Thunderbird on the new computer
running Win 7 64bit.

A nice tool to keep in the toolbox.

Thanks to all for help and suggestions

Maurice Helwig
















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