Need a Desktop Icon Saver that works

[r...@gmailnot.com]

I have the DesktopOK one and the IconSaver one. Both continually
screw up and cost me a lot of aggravation as I have to manually
rebuild may multi, mult, multi icon placement on my desktop.

I could search for some, but I could end up with another one that
doesn't work. What is working for you?

[Shadow]

DesktopOK. I back up the configuration file (DesktopOK.ini)
every time I reboot (FreeFileSync - incremental backup), so I can
replace it if it gets corrupted.
Corruption doesn't happen often though.... maybe once or twice
a year. I agree, it IS annoying. I have over 110 icons...
LOL
HTH
[]'s
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[Flasherly]

On Fri, 04 Jun 2021 18:30:46 -0500, r...@gmailnot.com wrote:

It's a thing, for sure, and Windows will jam it down the throat.

What causes it is a change in resolution from the last boot.

Far left, opposite to right tray and next to start menu, with between
the taskbar. Customized it with two folders, 75 entries. Desktop is
black.

Those two folders aren't on C_drv but another partition, linked. OS
is in a binary image and rewritten periodically. Those two folders
stay organized unless the video resolution is screwed with, swapping
out a video board -- major stuff.

Rewrite the OS and the folders are ordered again as I originally
arranged them.

Never cared for the desktop backup freeware, screw it and don't want
to see that crap plastered all over. Black screen period;- Hot keys
and autostart for all else. So I did it with the two folders myself.
God spoke and told me how to.

[VanguardLH]

Did you backup your positions in DesktopOK? If so, all you have to do
is reload the backup (right-click on the tray icon, and select a saved
resolution).

Positions are based on screen resolution. Have you been bouncing or
changing your screen resolution? Some video games change the
resolution, and do poorly to reset back to the original resolution when
exiting the game. If the game crashes, it obviously cannot run its exit
code to restore the original resolution. Since position backups are
based on resolution, you'll need to restore the original resolution
before you restore DesktopOK's backup.

[John C.]

Iconoid:

http://www.sillysot.com/

No longer being developed, but it's always worked perfectly for me and
it even works in W10.

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[Sjouke Burry]

icon_restore.exe on xp, used for the last 15 years.
Works perfectly.
Search google for something of that name, useful for your
windows version.

[Zo]

r...@gmailnot.com was thinking very hard :

I use ReIcon v1.9 (Restore Desktop Icon Layouts), continues to work
flawlessly for me


https://www.sordum.org/8366/reicon-v1-9-restore-desktop-icon-layouts/

I used to use DeskOK and although it's portable, it places an entry in
the AppData Directory, why?

--
Zo

"Lost Cocktail."

[Bill Day]

On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 22:41:40 -0700, "John C." <r9j...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>r...@gmailnot.com wrote:
>> I have the DesktopOK one and the IconSaver one. Both continually
>> screw up and cost me a lot of aggravation as I have to manually
>> rebuild may multi, mult, multi icon placement on my desktop.
>>
>> I could search for some, but I could end up with another one that
>> doesn't work. What is working for you?
>
>Iconoid:
>
>http://www.sillysot.com/
>
>No longer being developed, but it's always worked perfectly for me and
>it even works in W10.

Agreed! Have used it for years and it has 'save positions' and
'restore positions.
--
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On Sat, 05 Jun 2021 10:34:14 -0500, r...@gmailnot.com wrote:

>using XP

No surprise. DesktopOK works fine on W10.

Of course its not as secure a Win XP Shadow Core MegaDeath v12 [with the
Firefox Napalm hAX0r Death of a 10^3 cuts extensions]

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[VanguardLH]

Zo <hom...@newsbill.net> wrote:

> I used to use DeskOK and although it's portable, it places an entry in
> the AppData Directory, why?

You already know why. An .ini file to save your settings of it.
"Portable" does not preclude creating, reading, and writing files.

[Flasherly]

On Sat, 05 Jun 2021 11:42:58 -0500, r...@gmailnot.com wrote:

>I've installed Relcon. So far so good.
>
>I have 66 icons on my desktop. I'm wondering if compared to other
>users whether that's excessive and might be part of the problem?

No. The "Quick Launch Bar" immediately adjacent the "Start" button,
as earlier mentioned, within which and besides the "show desktop"
icon, I'd added two OS standard provisions icon selections, number
perhaps 70 in one folder and 50 in the other.

Of course the OS itself, besides a mentioned change in resolution,
will affect them according to levels and a defaults, no less an
individual override characteristic to both all folders and an
individual folder setting.

Nor would I particularly rule out a cursory understanding that
entails, beyond which else the OS has additionally to take upon itself
to haphazardly rearrange the meticulous ordering of users, either
within two added folders within the taskbar, opened on a black and
blank desktop, or, no differently were they placed all on the desktop,
then by some 125 icons to be strewn into some other randomness
qualifying a mess.

I did however stop randomness from occurring. And with the programs
you have provided to implement a correction, which I haven't.

I'd of course turned off the OS auto-arranging folder icon items,
which is all, apparently, I've done reasonably to say nothing more by
way of adjustment setting. Were my two Quick Launch defined folders
affected, there are absolutely no freeware programs to work at a
level, down and off from a black desktop, only they're closed but
permanently visible as the smallest icons possible to the OS visible
on a task bar, and nothing else, from either the Quick Launch or Tray
Bar.

(And, as I mentioned, as neither folder is located within the OS, the
individual listing of items within, referencing directories, programs
and so is kept within the OS. IOW and without further detail both
must be synchronized for placement purposes;- when not, an item in the
remote directory, not defined by the OS may distort the folder in some
fashion (improper rectangular boundaries) because it wasn't defined in
the OS;- an easy fix if not necessarily so and rendering a trashed
iron placement. Any major folder work and arrangement requires a
fresh OS back-up.)

If you haven't a similar solution with your new programs to correct
randomness, you may likely be off the skew and that there's other
adversely operatives affecting an order of the OS setup.

[Shadow]

On Sat, 05 Jun 2021 09:06:53 -0400, Zo <hom...@newsbill.net> wrote:

>I used to use DeskOK and although it's portable, it places an entry in
>the AppData Directory, why?

Mine doesn't. Just checked with Filemon and the SoftOrganizer
log from the first time I ran it. Keeps all the settings in the .INI
Version 7.97(if it ain't broke...)

[Shadow]

On Sat, 05 Jun 2021 10:34:14 -0500, r...@gmailnot.com wrote:

>You told me something I already suspected. Some other software is
>interfering with my own program of icon restore and DesktopOK. Maybe
>I shouldn't be using 2 programs at the same time to do this job. But
>because of the problem in the beginning with icon Restore is why I
>also started using DesktopOK to save the icons.
>
>The problem has gotten much worse lately. That's why I was thinking
>of dumping both. By the way, I'm also using XP.

Me too. No problem here with DesktopOK v7.97.

[TheSidhe]

On 6/5/21 5:41 PM, Shadow wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Jun 2021 09:06:53 -0400, Zo <hom...@newsbill.net> wrote:
>
>> I used to use DeskOK and although it's portable, it places an entry in
>> the AppData Directory, why?
> Mine doesn't. Just checked with Filemon and the SoftOrganizer
> log from the first time I ran it. Keeps all the settings in the .INI
> Version 7.97(if it ain't broke...)
> []'s

You want to continue to continue the lame story, tell me when the
browser wars end how do you picture the internet, and when your electric
is turned off how will you continue to be an idiot?

[Bill Day]

On Sat, 05 Jun 2021 11:42:58 -0500, r...@gmailnot.com wrote:

>On Sat, 05 Jun 2021 09:06:53 -0400, Zo <hom...@newsbill.net> wrote:
>

>>r...@gmailnot.com was thinking very hard :
>>> I have the DesktopOK one and the IconSaver one. Both continually
>>> screw up and cost me a lot of aggravation as I have to manually
>>> rebuild may multi, mult, multi icon placement on my desktop.
>>>
>>> I could search for some, but I could end up with another one that
>>> doesn't work. What is working for you?
>>
>>I use ReIcon v1.9 (Restore Desktop Icon Layouts), continues to work
>>flawlessly for me
>>
>>
>>https://www.sordum.org/8366/reicon-v1-9-restore-desktop-icon-layouts/
>

>I've installed Relcon. So far so good.
>
>I have 66 icons on my desktop. I'm wondering if compared to other
>users whether that's excessive and might be part of the problem?
>

>>I used to use DeskOK and although it's portable, it places an entry in
>>the AppData Directory, why?
>

>I know nothing about Apps. I have an old flip phone. I don't text. I
>talk. I don't need to scan bar codes, either. :o)
I solved the many icons problem years ago with a little program that
is now hard to find. It's a program launcher that hides in the corner
until you mouse over it....or in 2 or more corners. It can be arranged
in any pattern you wish with category labels.
https://www.snapfiles.com/get/hiddenmenu.html Oh..heck! It says "not
currently available! Well, it is small. I can put a copy somewhere or
email it if anyone wants it. 374KB zip file.

I have most of my programs in one corner, and a few special ones in
another. I think I have 80 or more ...and I also keep some icons
still on my desktop, including one to restore Hidden Menu if, as
happened once, Hidden Menu gets corrupted by a power failure during
shutdown. (I also have in 20 years used 'restore point' twice'.)

[Zo]

Yeah smart ass, I know what the .ini file is for, but that doesn't
answwer the question as to the why, if it is "portable", one is placed
outside of the program folder and into the AppData Directory.

--
Zo

"The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people
will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."
-- Terry Pratchett (Diggers)

[Zo]

Shadow has brought this to us :

> On Sat, 05 Jun 2021 09:06:53 -0400, Zo <hom...@newsbill.net> wrote:
>
>> I used to use DeskOK and although it's portable, it places an entry in
>> the AppData Directory, why?
>
> Mine doesn't. Just checked with Filemon and the SoftOrganizer
> log from the first time I ran it. Keeps all the settings in the .INI
> Version 7.97(if it ain't broke...)
> []'s

"The Installation of DesktopOK

The Freeware DesktopOK does not have to be installed and can be
executed easily from the desktop, and can be carried on a small
usb-stick or other memory device. Start the program. The first time
that you use it the program it will present you with a license screen.
The program is free and the license info is only displayed the first
time (per PC).

Portable Info:
From Version 4.24 by default, the DesktopOK.ini will be created in the
folder %APPDATA%/DesktopOK
For portable use, please create or copy in DesktopOK working directory
the DesktopOK.ini. "

https://www.softwareok.com/?Freeware/DesktopOK

[Zo]

r...@gmailnot.com expressed precisely :

> On Sat, 05 Jun 2021 09:06:53 -0400, Zo <hom...@newsbill.net> wrote:
>

>> r...@gmailnot.com was thinking very hard :
>>> I have the DesktopOK one and the IconSaver one. Both continually
>>> screw up and cost me a lot of aggravation as I have to manually
>>> rebuild may multi, mult, multi icon placement on my desktop.
>>>
>>> I could search for some, but I could end up with another one that
>>> doesn't work. What is working for you?
>>
>> I use ReIcon v1.9 (Restore Desktop Icon Layouts), continues to work
>> flawlessly for me
>>
>>
>> https://www.sordum.org/8366/reicon-v1-9-restore-desktop-icon-layouts/
>

> I've installed Relcon. So far so good.
>
> I have 66 icons on my desktop. I'm wondering if compared to other
> users whether that's excessive and might be part of the problem?
>

>> I used to use DeskOK and although it's portable, it places an entry in
>> the AppData Directory, why?
>

> I know nothing about Apps. I have an old flip phone. I don't text. I
> talk. I don't need to scan bar codes, either. :o)

That makes two of us ;-)

--
Zo

"Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus
handicapped." -- Elbert Hubbard

[Shadow]

On Sun, 06 Jun 2021 10:24:33 -0400, Zo <hom...@newsbill.net> wrote:

>Shadow has brought this to us :
>> On Sat, 05 Jun 2021 09:06:53 -0400, Zo <hom...@newsbill.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I used to use DeskOK and although it's portable, it places an entry in
>>> the AppData Directory, why?
>>
>> Mine doesn't. Just checked with Filemon and the SoftOrganizer
>> log from the first time I ran it. Keeps all the settings in the .INI
>> Version 7.97(if it ain't broke...)
>> []'s
>
>"The Installation of DesktopOK
>
>The Freeware DesktopOK does not have to be installed and can be
>executed easily from the desktop, and can be carried on a small
>usb-stick or other memory device. Start the program. The first time
>that you use it the program it will present you with a license screen.
>The program is free and the license info is only displayed the first
>time (per PC).
>
>Portable Info:
>From Version 4.24 by default, the DesktopOK.ini will be created in the
>folder %APPDATA%/DesktopOK
>For portable use, please create or copy in DesktopOK working directory
>the DesktopOK.ini. "
>
>https://www.softwareok.com/?Freeware/DesktopOK

Aha, that's probably why mine's in the program folder. I read
the docs. Same for Cherrytree and ImgBurn. I created an empty config
file before running them the first time.

[SpamBlk]

VanguardLH <V...@nguard.LH> wrote in <news:1u9s56i3...@v.nguard.lh>:

Unless it is writing into a system folder. Consider a portable
program meant for a thumb drive. Such a program would write its
settings on the thumb drive, typically in the same folder as
the executable. Then the thumb drive can be taken to a different
machine and the settings go with it. OTOH writing settings to
a system folder leaves not only traces on the host computer but the
settings are not "portable" in the sense they are not carried by
program design from one computer to another automatically.

[Shadow]

What's a flip phone? Does it have something to do with the
cable, or is it a socket thing?
LOL

[Bill Day]

On Sun, 06 Jun 2021 12:03:46 -0500, r...@gmailnot.com wrote:

>On Sun, 06 Jun 2021 09:08:37 -0400, Bill Day
><extreeN...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>"Application Launcher
>
>Hidden Menu is a customizable toolbar menu to launch your favorite
>programs. When the program is not in use it hides off-screen, saving
>your valuable desktop space. However, as soon as you move your mouse
>to the bottom right of your screen (other locations can be
>configured), it pops up, allowing you to launch your favorite
>programs, files, web sites and shortcuts. Hidden Menu is very easy to
>configure (supports drag and drop), and can be customized in several
>ways(icons, size and location etc.). It comes with a stylish, black
>interface with mouseover effects. Additional features include optional
>locking of entries, windows parameters, customizable size and much
>more."
>
>System requirments:
> Windows 95, Windows 2000, Windows 98, Windows Me, Windows, Windows XP

>
>>https://www.snapfiles.com/get/hiddenmenu.html Oh..heck! It says "not
>>currently available! Well, it is small. I can put a copy somewhere or
>>email it if anyone wants it. 374KB zip file.
>

>Cnet lists it, too, but doesn't have it for download.
>
>Can you place it in alt.binaries.test?
>
>I can run it through VirusTotal to make sure it's clean. I'm saying
>this for any 'newbies' who might want it but are afraid to download
>anything. (Although I don't think Usenet 'newbies' exist any longer.)
> :o)
>
>https://www.virustotal.com/#/home/upload
>
>I have alt.binaries.test cleared out of all old stuff. That'll make
>Hidden Menu easier to find than looking through who knows how many
>'test' files.
>
>The fact it works with '95 tells one how ancient this program is. : o)

>
>>
>>I have most of my programs in one corner, and a few special ones in
>>another. I think I have 80 or more ...and I also keep some icons
>>still on my desktop, including one to restore Hidden Menu if, as
>>happened once, Hidden Menu gets corrupted by a power failure during
>>shutdown. (I also have in 20 years used 'restore point' twice'.)
>

>You need a battery backup deal. We have power failures quite often
>here. My UPS backup has saved me from the Redmond Blue Screen of Death
>quite often.
>
>I'll be looking alt.binaries.test.
>
>Thanks!
Done..to alt.binaries.test.files.

[Bill Day]

On Sun, 06 Jun 2021 18:11:41 -0400, Bill Day

Note.. I found no listing for alt.binaries.test

[Flasherly]

On Sun, 06 Jun 2021 16:18:22 -0300, Shadow <S...@dow.br> wrote:

>What's a flip phone? Does it have something to do with the
>cable, or is it a socket thing?

It was 10-cents to walk to the nearest public phone to call from a
booth;-$15 to own a home phone subscription from a company under a
direct government oversight agency assigned by law to each state.

Now phones are internationally privatized venture capital, which never
lost their veneer of confusion for being locked and scripted into
proprietary cost structures, whose tendency is to extort, like
privately run prison systems.

A sentence term starts at 10-cents a minute for the cheapest flip
cell-phone, where prisoners are only allowed to walk the talk if it
doesn't connect, so they do walk a fair amount;- and if there's text
messages involved, to retrieve may involve a subscription carrier
crapfest menu to drain minutes.

Communication is not a civil right, but privilege for a bunch of
privileged guys that get to choose from less-privileged guys celling
their asses for advertisement on the big lock-up in Power City.

[Shadow]

On Sun, 06 Jun 2021 19:41:09 -0400, Flasherly <Flas...@live.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 06 Jun 2021 16:18:22 -0300, Shadow <S...@dow.br> wrote:
>
>>What's a flip phone? Does it have something to do with the
>>cable, or is it a socket thing?
>
>It was 10-cents to walk to the nearest public phone to call from a
>booth;-$15 to own a home phone subscription from a company under a
>direct government oversight agency assigned by law to each state.

I remember. 25 years ago I used to pay US$ 2 a month, which
allowed 200 3-minute calls.
And a public phone would cost US$ 2 for 100 3-minute calls.
After midnight and until 6AM and all day Sunday would count as
ONE call.
Ah, the joys of BBSing!

Then they privatized it.
I pay U$ 1 a MINUTE for local calls. Much more for
inter-state. I don't think public phones exist anymore.

It's got so bad our Banks use Chinese phone numbers for 0800
calls. You phone China and they transfer you to Brazil. It's cheaper
than a local call.
They say it's "inflation". Wish my salary had "inflated" that
much.
LOL
[]'s

>
>Now phones are internationally privatized venture capital, which never
>lost their veneer of confusion for being locked and scripted into
>proprietary cost structures, whose tendency is to extort, like
>privately run prison systems.
>
>A sentence term starts at 10-cents a minute for the cheapest flip
>cell-phone, where prisoners are only allowed to walk the talk if it
>doesn't connect, so they do walk a fair amount;- and if there's text
>messages involved, to retrieve may involve a subscription carrier
>crapfest menu to drain minutes.
>
>Communication is not a civil right, but privilege for a bunch of
>privileged guys that get to choose from less-privileged guys celling
>their asses for advertisement on the big lock-up in Power City.

[Shadow]

On Sun, 06 Jun 2021 18:51:16 -0500, r...@gmailnot.com wrote:

>>On Sun, 06 Jun 2021 16:18:22 -0300, Shadow <S...@dow.br> wrote:
>>
>>>What's a flip phone? Does it have something to do with the
>>>cable, or is it a socket thing?
>

>https://www.target.com/s/flip+phones?Nao=0
>
>Mine is smaller and more rounded than these newer ones.
>
>It measures 4" in length x 2" width x 1 3/4" thickness
>
>It's simple to carry. It'll almost fits in a watch pocket.
>
>(Now he's going to ask me what a "watch pocket" is.)

All my jackets/jeans have one. Don't expect me to hold my
watch by the chain, do you?

[Flasherly]

On Sun, 06 Jun 2021 18:51:16 -0500, r...@gmailnot.com wrote:

>https://www.target.com/s/flip+phones?Nao=0
>Mine is smaller and more rounded than these newer ones.
>It measures 4" in length x 2" width x 1 3/4" thickness
>It's simple to carry. It'll almost fits in a watch pocket.
>(Now he's going to ask me what a "watch pocket" is.)

A commemorative artifice dated to an earlier age of American
industrialized Czars of railroads and the Iron Horse;- of Iberian
Spanish extraction, pantalones, shortened to pants-pocket of a
belt-looped timepiece of chained-attired jewelry and decorative
watches, circulated upon the desecration of the American buffalo at
the time of the Trail of Tears for North American indigenous.

Target, Walmart, the few within ten universal American merchandise
carriers, are getting nasty about my filtering through shifting relay
carriers and proxies, either demanding my country of origin or
providing little else to such a spurious inquest. Rather than a
formal request, easier at times to work from generic device Chinese
bin- and parts-numbers.

That's rather thick. I have the same thing in half the width, a
Samsung "flip-phone" which never now properly connects after half its
approximate life, whereas opposed to earlier it did connect to cell
towers strongly, vigorously and with proactive intent. It was given
to me and costs eighty pennies for a month, minimum, to maintain
active subscription membership status. Nobody calls me anymore, not
even cellers advertising their asses.

Physically the same thing. Target isn't going to screw you unless
they want a class-action lawsuit. But you paid money for the phone
and I didn't. And both you and I pay by the minute from $10 cards
for and to at the very least to talk.

Getting more ingenious, even for nothing subscriptionally speaking,
might involve scabbing freely off institutional WiFi provisions of
advertising intent (storefront, gas stations and eateries w/WiFi). A
"big field" of possibilities for many who cannot or do not maintain
personal computer connectivity, no less fashionable but requiring some
concerted research to purchase a generic handheld, above the
flip-phone, which such opportunities then might entail in a free
public WiFi environment. One up, at the dedicated handheld variously
chipped to a carrier, per force optionally to a dedicated cell-tower
network, becomes easily closer if marginally less in cost to an actual
ISP subscription, basic tiered "planned" rates for PC connectivity,
not long ago as low as $30 monthly for a 5-year obligatory, entailing
legalese entitlement of binding stipulations, "sign-up" contract.

One really might consider some need better to apprise and prepare a
field, generally to ideally, foremost with a certified degree from a
Technological Institutes of perhaps Google or Microsoft, to avoid
commonsensical pitfalls and scams studded out these days from
Bumfahked's Egyptian Centre of Multinational Carriers.

[VanguardLH]

Zo <hom...@newsbill.net> wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> Zo <hom...@newsbill.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I used to use DeskOK and although it's portable, it places an entry in
>>> the AppData Directory, why?
>>
>> You already know why. An .ini file to save your settings of it.
>> "Portable" does not preclude creating, reading, and writing files.
>
> Yeah smart ass, I know what the .ini file is for, but that doesn't
> answwer the question as to the why, if it is "portable", one is placed
> outside of the program folder and into the AppData Directory.

Did you actually store the program on removable media, like a USB flash
drive, or external HDD or SDD? Or did you install it on your HDD or
SDD? If on an internal drive, did you install in an alternate path than
the default?

http://www.softwareok.com/?seite=faq-DesktopOK&faq=1

It is up to *YOU* to decide where to store the .ini file, smart ass.

http://www.softwareok.com/?seite=faq-DesktopOK&faq=1#S1

Since you already saved the .ini file under your Windows profile, use
the Info -> DesktopOK.ini folder selection which opens the folder where
the .ini file is store. Then cut and paste to where you want, like the
same folder where you put its .exe file.

Tis interesting how many users claim they want a portable version of a
program, but they don't really need the app to be portable. They still
install (copy) portable apps to their internal drive.

[Flasherly]

On Sun, 06 Jun 2021 21:03:26 -0300, Shadow <S...@dow.br> wrote:

>I remember. 25 years ago I used to pay US$ 2 a month, which
>allowed 200 3-minute calls.
> And a public phone would cost US$ 2 for 100 3-minute calls.
> After midnight and until 6AM and all day Sunday would count as
>ONE call.
> Ah, the joys of BBSing!
>
> Then they privatized it.
> I pay U$ 1 a MINUTE for local calls. Much more for
>inter-state. I don't think public phones exist anymore.
>
> It's got so bad our Banks use Chinese phone numbers for 0800
>calls. You phone China and they transfer you to Brazil. It's cheaper
>than a local call.
> They say it's "inflation". Wish my salary had "inflated" that
>much.

May have been lower $15, I'd cited, but it would take others past my
memory to come up with closer to $2 monthly call rates. A
coin-slotted, public phone first was $0.10 then $0.25, the last rate
before going extinct, de-regulated at privatized wireless phones.
While regulated, a BBS POTs TELCO membership, to connect from a
private ISP, was $2.0 monthly, and national coast-to-coast calling
maybe $10 more, monthly, than the local $15.0 unlimited minutes. (May
have been $10.0 for monthly limited local calls.) No USENET, and the
different cities for a BBS meant access to freeware, at least until CD
freeware publications arrived.

Worked with a woman from Lima, Peru, highest city in the world in the
Andes, who told me the electricity is turned off at night and doesn't
come on again until the morning (or some such). She'd worked before I
met her privately in a home-care nursing capacity, and said she
expected to permanently "beat inflation" by taking her savings with
her, back to Lima.

[John C.]

https://web.archive.org/web/20100208074918/https://www.snapfiles.com/get/hiddenmenu.html

[Zo]

Enough of your idiot long drawn out bullshit, I NO longer use the damn
thing, if you can read, I said that I use to use it. Case close. Buzz
off Professor Nitwit.

--
Zo

"Wanted: Part-time married girls for soda fountain in sandwich shop."

[Bill Day]

On Sun, 06 Jun 2021 17:45:24 -0500, r...@gmailnot.com wrote:

>On Sun, 06 Jun 2021 18:14:32 -0400, Bill Day

>Unfortunately, I did not have alt.binaries.test.files cleared of all
>the posted stuff before you posted to it. I'm getting the message
>that there are too many files to load. I purged all the old stuff, so
>if you can post again I'll see it this time.
Okay... I now see 2 copies of HiddenMenu22.zip in
Alt.binaries.test.files

[Kin Brigent]

Are you in need a loan to clear your bills or to solve your financial problem ? if yes contact us now at brigentjames(at)gmail for more info

[Kin Brigent]

[Flasherly]

O
n Sun, 06 Jun 2021 12:09:43 -0500, r...@gmailnot.com wrote:

>My wife has one of those 'Smart Phones' that does !EVERYTHING!
>
>I think if you gave those people a choice between having to choose
>between breathing or their 'Smart Phones', they'd choose their 'Smart
>Phones'.

Other things that bug me is all chipped phone requires registration.
Last couple of contacts with the service carriers themselves, they're
trying to hustle me for $150-200 for their phone. Just to get a foot
in the door, talk our talk or take your bullshit with you and take a
walk, before the data access plans above and perhaps in addition to
prepaid minutes/data/time included with the phone's cost. And I'm not
necessarily saying, alternatively, a Target or Walmart phone, whatever
that initial cost is about, unfavorably is to compare to a phone
carrier, or is a rip off.

Just mine connects sporadically, (I can play my violin to continue
along with this sad tale, all the while to whine and cry),
locationally for whatever cause or reason there is to now to blame.
Once I had a phone which worked in my home, always connected, and what
I have now is to go outside now, stand in the backyard, in the rain,
in a better eventuality to attempt a connection.

Here's just what just that leads me to imagine. ...It is said
industrial application of technology is attempting to build a new
mountain chain next to and as big as the Andes. It will built with
mountains of discarded phones and handhelds from people who get
promised one thing, but toss that same thing over their shoulder, when
such promises are then, legally speaking, perfectly broken. Whereupon
the people will buy another very such thing, only under a new promise,
legally to say a lie, that when the new thing becomes obsolete, that,
calm down and get a grip -- they're actually doing something useful
with their life by adding discarded phones to make a mountain chain
of plastic into the one wealth that only the one-percent can own.

[VanguardLH]

Oh, it just must be my fault that you have low reading comprehension and
retention, that you're trying to disguise your ignorance with insults,
and you don't like your own insults tossed back at you. Didn't realize
I was informing a child.

> I NO longer use the damn thing, if you can read, I said that I use to
> use it. Case close. Buzz off Professor Nitwit.

I replied so OTHERS would know you were either lying or ignorant, and
that the ini file does NOT have to be under %appdata%.

[Zo]

VanguardLH has brought this to us :

You are definitely a piece of work! roflm1 roflm1 roflm1

--
Zo

Falling doesn't kill people. ... It's the deceleration trauma.

[Bill Day]

On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 14:12:58 -0500, r...@gmailnot.com wrote:

>On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 12:34:37 -0500, r...@gmailnot.com wrote:

>
>>On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 08:22:44 -0400, Bill Day
>><extreeN...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 06 Jun 2021 17:45:24 -0500, r...@gmailnot.com wrote:
>>>
>>
>
>
>>

>>Got it!
>>
>I got it, but I don't get it. :o)
>
>I clicked on the exe the first time and the About windows came up. I
>don't remember what I did inside that. As little as possible, though.
>
>My problem now is that Task Manager tells me it's running but I can't
>find it. It does not show up when move my cursor around in the lower
>right screen. This thing is a bit more complicated than i expected.
>I do have it installed in the sandbox, so it can't screw up anything
>on my machine. I doubt it would anyhow, since the only registry
>entries I see for it are those for the directory it's in. It didn't
>seem to really need an "install".
>
>Weird.
>
>
On first launch, all one gets is a tiny black box that one right
clicks on to add a shortcut.. the more shortcuts one adds, the clearer
it becomes. A right click also brings up the 'menu(s)' to make
choices. I chose to have a 2nd set in another corner.
Now, I have never used a sandbox for anything. so I have no idea if
that affects operation. If you are able to add shortcut links, it
becomes much easier to see and save your layout. It's been years since
I saw it in original state. It is one of 5-6 programs I have in
auto-launch each day. I think I'll post an image of what my main set
looks like in that same place..alt.binaries.test.files.

[Bill Day]

On Wed, 09 Jun 2021 10:42:37 -0500, r...@gmailnot.com wrote:

>On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 16:11:20 -0400, Bill Day

>I had cataract surgery yesterday. I't's kept me from being oniine.
>One eye has a protective plastic shield over it and the other normal
>eye is out of sync with the one operated on.
>
>I'll answer in a few days about Hidden Menu.
Yes.. I had cararact surgeries years ago. It helped immensely. Good
luck. Thanks for updating me.

[Bill Day]

On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 21:51:04 -0500, r...@gmailnot.com wrote:

>Hidden Menu just wouldn't work on my comp. No matter what settings In
>it I set, I could not find it anywhere on the desktop. On top of
>that, it was doing one *very* strange thing.
>
>When I merely "Selected" (CTR-A) it's directory files, Task Manager
>would show me that it somehow that activated the exe file. I had to
>use Task Manager' s "Process" menu to turn it off. There was no other
>way it would turn off. TM's "Application" menu had no effect on it.
>
>When out of curiosity I "Selected" it once more, it again started the
>program.
>
>Weird, eh?
>
>In order to delete it's files, I had to do it using the Cmd Line
>since "Selecting" it would just start it again and not allow me to Del
>it.
>
>Somewhere on my box is software that evidently doesn't get along with
>Hidden Menu. I gave up on it but will keep it in case anyone in the
>future might need a copy.
>
>In the decades I've been using a computer, never did I see an exe
>executed by merely "Selecting" it. :o(
>
>As for my cataract surgery, something went wrong there, too. The eye
>operated on had amazingly clear vision for three days, then it
>reverted back almost to what it used to be. I looked around and came
>up with this site concerting problems after cataract surgery
>
>https://eyeglobe.org/why-is-my-vision-blurry-after-cataract-surgery/
>
>I have a follow up appointment with the doc this coming Wednesday.
>I'll see then what the heck is going on. Worst case according to the
>page above is that I'll need to do the surgery over again.
>
>It was truly amazing how super clear my vision was for those three
>days before it plonked out.
>
>That's about it for now. The eyes are still out of tune and it's kind
>of exasperating reading and typing stuff.
>
>Later.
Well...I'm very sorry to hear about both the program and your eye.
I wish I could just drop by and see the program try to work...it's
been so long since I actually installed it, I don't remember the
process.

Good luck with the eyes...

[Flasherly]

On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 07:52:18 -0400, Bill Day
<extreeN...@verizon.net> wrote:

>Somewhere on my box is software that evidently doesn't get along with
>>Hidden Menu. I gave up on it but will keep it in case anyone in the
>>future might need a copy.

Sounds like a clone of PowerPro. Although an old version the useful
Macro Keys assignment parameters handle such as preprocessing batch
commands.

https://powerpro.en.lo4d.com/windows

[Mike Dee]

wrote:

> I have the DesktopOK one and the IconSaver one. Both continually
> screw up and cost me a lot of aggravation as I have to manually
> rebuild may multi, mult, multi icon placement on my desktop.
>
> I could search for some, but I could end up with another one that
> doesn't work. What is working for you?

I use, to this day (on XP) one that was a free giveaway from Ziff Davis
and included in with their "PC Magazine" US Ed, in early 2000's, and
also as a free DL from their media site at the time.

It is called "WinTidy" v2.0, written by a "Neil J. Rubenking" and is
excellent at retaining your preferred icon placements.

No longer available, but is perhaps still on an archive somewhere?

--
dee

[Bill Day]

On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 13:52:31 -0400, Flasherly <Flas...@live.com>
wrote:

I had Power Pro for awhile... very powerful, but a steep learning
curve to get it set up and operating. It felt like the control panel
of a 747. Never installed it since WIN98.

[Bill Day]

On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 13:52:31 -0400, Flasherly <Flas...@live.com>
wrote:

No... very few similarities. The entire GUI and intent are different.

[Bill Bradshaw]

I have the zip file for WinWidy stored on my computer. I need to clean out
my computer.
--
<Bill>

Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska

[Flasherly]

On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 08:33:07 -0400, Bill Day
<extreeN...@verizon.net> wrote:

>I had Power Pro for awhile... very powerful, but a steep learning
>curve to get it set up and operating. It felt like the control panel
>of a 747. Never installed it since WIN98.
>--

I'd have to go through it again, easier probably at the website, for
what's so powerful about its features. Could be radical new design.
The descriptor I do have, however, there's several central concepts
usually expected in a single freeware programming doing just one of
them (how well may be questionable). The longest use provided for
myself, hot-keys, besides, for another person and instances of calling
batched commands during a program sequence, might put off that
another. And what I do have, I've no good documentation to make the
program possibly better -- e.g. what the hell's advantage to a "tap
key" sequence. Anyway, apart the four below, most of the rest of
Power Pro features I've seen before in other freeware. Could be worse
-- like Total Commander taking ten tons of freeware file manipulators,
combining them into its license, and then charging for it by going
commercial.


--

Hot key, tap key, and screen corner activation of commands.

Hot keys which depend on the active program.

Menu subsections which are displayed only if a given program is active

Send a sequence of keys to a running program or to a program that you
start with Windows PowerPro.

[Flasherly]

On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 14:41:48 -0400, Flasherly <Flas...@live.com>
wrote:

> And what I do have, I've no good documentation to make the
>program possibly better

Turns out there is a document file

ppst.chm (dated 2005)

What cover's PP's scripting language syntax or its main strength.