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Nil
May 27, 2021, 12:38:54 AM5/27/21
to
Beware... for some reason, the author has now blocked the use of RIOT,
an image optimization plugin that's been included for as long as I've
been using Irfanview. I use this plugin almost every day. So, for me,
the previous version, 4.57, may be the end of the line.
On 26 May 2021, Yrrah <Yrra...@acf.invalid> wrote in
alt.comp.freeware:
> 35 next week:
> "IrfanView is a fast, compact and innovative FREEWARE (for
> non-commercial use) graphic viewer for Windows XP, Vista, 7, 8 and
> 10" and Linux+Wine.
> "IrfanView is provided as freeware, but only for private,
> non-commercial use (that means at home).
> IrfanView is free for educational use (schools, universities,
> museums and libraries) and for use in charity or humanitarian
> organisations." (Initial release: June 1, 1996)
> Home:
> https://www.irfanview.com/
> Features:
> https://www.irfanview.com/main_what_is_engl.htm
> What's new:
> https://www.irfanview.com/main_history.htm
> Downloads:
> https://www.irfanview.com/64bit.htm
> and
> https://www.irfanview.com/main_download_engl.htm
>
> Works as advertised.
>
>
> Yrrah
>
>
an image optimization plugin that's been included for as long as I've
been using Irfanview. I use this plugin almost every day. So, for me,
the previous version, 4.57, may be the end of the line.
On 26 May 2021, Yrrah <Yrra...@acf.invalid> wrote in
alt.comp.freeware:
> 35 next week:
> "IrfanView is a fast, compact and innovative FREEWARE (for
> non-commercial use) graphic viewer for Windows XP, Vista, 7, 8 and
> 10" and Linux+Wine.
> "IrfanView is provided as freeware, but only for private,
> non-commercial use (that means at home).
> IrfanView is free for educational use (schools, universities,
> museums and libraries) and for use in charity or humanitarian
> organisations." (Initial release: June 1, 1996)
> Home:
> https://www.irfanview.com/
> Features:
> https://www.irfanview.com/main_what_is_engl.htm
> What's new:
> https://www.irfanview.com/main_history.htm
> Downloads:
> https://www.irfanview.com/64bit.htm
> and
> https://www.irfanview.com/main_download_engl.htm
>
> Works as advertised.
>
>
> Yrrah
>
>
Andrzej P. Wozniak
May 27, 2021, 6:55:06 AM5/27/21
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Osoba podpisana jako Nil <redn...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>
w artykule <news:XnsAD37695...@wheedledeedle.moc> pisze:
> Beware... for some reason, the author has now blocked the use of RIOT,
> an image optimization plugin that's been included for as long as I've
> been using Irfanview. I use this plugin almost every day. So, for me,
> the previous version, 4.57, may be the end of the line.
Beware… RIOT is buggy. That's the reason.
* Old RIOT 0.62 (32-bit) doesn't work properly with IrfanView (32-bit) in
Windows 10 (64-bit):
http://luci.criosweb.ro/riot/bbpress/topic.php?id=592
* New RIOT 1.0.1 works properly only in Windows 10. 32-bit doesn't work in
any older system at all:
http://luci.criosweb.ro/riot/bbpress/topic.php?id=624
Note the dates for those reports. The problems in RIOT aren't fixed so
far.
For PNG you can use new OptiPNG plugin - this algorithm is also a part of
RIOT tool. Internal PNG support in IrfanView has been improved some time
ago and now it gives better results than RIOT with fast optimization.
--
Andrzej P. Woźniak us...@pochta.onet.pl (swap z<->h in address)
w artykule <news:XnsAD37695...@wheedledeedle.moc> pisze:
> Beware... for some reason, the author has now blocked the use of RIOT,
> an image optimization plugin that's been included for as long as I've
> been using Irfanview. I use this plugin almost every day. So, for me,
> the previous version, 4.57, may be the end of the line.
* Old RIOT 0.62 (32-bit) doesn't work properly with IrfanView (32-bit) in
Windows 10 (64-bit):
http://luci.criosweb.ro/riot/bbpress/topic.php?id=592
* New RIOT 1.0.1 works properly only in Windows 10. 32-bit doesn't work in
any older system at all:
http://luci.criosweb.ro/riot/bbpress/topic.php?id=624
Note the dates for those reports. The problems in RIOT aren't fixed so
far.
For PNG you can use new OptiPNG plugin - this algorithm is also a part of
RIOT tool. Internal PNG support in IrfanView has been improved some time
ago and now it gives better results than RIOT with fast optimization.
--
Andrzej P. Woźniak us...@pochta.onet.pl (swap z<->h in address)
TheSidhe
May 27, 2021, 8:29:52 AM5/27/21
to
On 5/27/21 8:03 AM, Yrrah wrote:
> Nil <redn...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>:
> version: 1.0.1):
> https://riot-optimizer.com/download/
>
> It can be used with IrfanView as an external editor.
> Options, Properties/Settings, Miscellaneous, Set...
> And voilà, the most recent version of IrfanView with the integrated
> RIOTool. It even works with Linux+WINE.
>
> Yrrah
>
Thanks for the info, it's nice that it works in Linux.
> Nil <redn...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>:
>
>> for some reason, the author has now blocked the use of RIOT,
>> an image optimization plugin that's been included for as long as I've
>> been using Irfanview. I use this plugin almost every day. So, for me,
>> the previous version, 4.57, may be the end of the line.
>
> There is a stand-alone build of RIOT, even a portable version (curent
>> for some reason, the author has now blocked the use of RIOT,
>> an image optimization plugin that's been included for as long as I've
>> been using Irfanview. I use this plugin almost every day. So, for me,
>> the previous version, 4.57, may be the end of the line.
>
> version: 1.0.1):
> https://riot-optimizer.com/download/
>
> It can be used with IrfanView as an external editor.
> Options, Properties/Settings, Miscellaneous, Set...
> And voilà, the most recent version of IrfanView with the integrated
> RIOTool. It even works with Linux+WINE.
>
> Yrrah
>
Thanks for the info, it's nice that it works in Linux.
TheSidhe
May 27, 2021, 12:09:20 PM5/27/21
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On 5/27/21 11:38 AM, Yrrah wrote:
>
>> There is a stand-alone build of RIOT, even a portable version (curent
>> version: 1.0.1):
>> https://riot-optimizer.com/download/
>>
>> It can be used with IrfanView as an external editor.
>> Options, Properties/Settings, Miscellaneous, Set...
>
> Rephrased: It can be set up as an external editor in IrfanView.
>
>> There is a stand-alone build of RIOT, even a portable version (curent
>> version: 1.0.1):
>> https://riot-optimizer.com/download/
>>
>> It can be used with IrfanView as an external editor.
>> Options, Properties/Settings, Miscellaneous, Set...
>
>
> Yrrah
>
You mean external editor in Linux,
TheSidhe
May 27, 2021, 1:11:18 PM5/27/21
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On 5/27/21 12:36 PM, Yrrah wrote:
> TheSidhe <n...@none.net>:
> IV Options, Properties/Settings, Miscellaneous, Set...
>
>
> Yrrah
>
In other words from within Irfanview ..settings.. I can alter the
default setting of my default image viewer of Linux?
> TheSidhe <n...@none.net>:
>
>>>> There is a stand-alone build of RIOT, even a portable version (curent
>>>> version: 1.0.1):
>>>> https://riot-optimizer.com/download/
>>>>
>>>> It can be used with IrfanView as an external editor.
>>>> Options, Properties/Settings, Miscellaneous, Set...
>
>>> Rephrased: It can be set up as an external editor in IrfanView.
>
>>>> There is a stand-alone build of RIOT, even a portable version (curent
>>>> version: 1.0.1):
>>>> https://riot-optimizer.com/download/
>>>>
>>>> It can be used with IrfanView as an external editor.
>>>> Options, Properties/Settings, Miscellaneous, Set...
>
>>> Rephrased: It can be set up as an external editor in IrfanView.
>
>> You mean external editor in Linux,
>
> No, in IrfanView (Linux+Wine or MS Windows).
>
> IV Options, Properties/Settings, Miscellaneous, Set...
>
>
> Yrrah
>
In other words from within Irfanview ..settings.. I can alter the
default setting of my default image viewer of Linux?
Nil
May 27, 2021, 1:47:56 PM5/27/21
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On 27 May 2021, "Andrzej P. Wozniak" <us...@poczta.onet.pl.invalid>
wrote in alt.comp.freeware:
> Osoba podpisana jako Nil <redn...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>
> w artykule <news:XnsAD37695...@wheedledeedle.moc> pisze:
>
>> Beware... for some reason, the author has now blocked the use of
>> RIOT, an image optimization plugin that's been included for as
>> long as I've been using Irfanview. I use this plugin almost every
>> day. So, for me, the previous version, 4.57, may be the end of
>> the line.
>
> Beware - RIOT is buggy. That's the reason.
user forum looking for the justification for disabling RIOT, but I
couldn't find anything. I've been using an older version of RIOT and
haven't encountered any of those problems. I wish Irfanview made it
possible to turn the plugin back on with a warning, perhaps. Irfanview
does many useful things, but its integration with RIOT is one feature I
use all the time. I find it incredibly useful to play with RIOT's
sliders until I find the best balance between compression and file
size. Irfanview's suggestion, to use the "Compress to file size" option
isn't a good substitute for me.
wrote in alt.comp.freeware:
> Osoba podpisana jako Nil <redn...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>
> w artykule <news:XnsAD37695...@wheedledeedle.moc> pisze:
>
>> Beware... for some reason, the author has now blocked the use of
>> RIOT, an image optimization plugin that's been included for as
>> long as I've been using Irfanview. I use this plugin almost every
>> day. So, for me, the previous version, 4.57, may be the end of
>> the line.
>
>
> * Old RIOT 0.62 (32-bit) doesn't work properly with IrfanView
> (32-bit) in Windows 10 (64-bit):
> http://luci.criosweb.ro/riot/bbpress/topic.php?id=592
> * New RIOT 1.0.1 works properly only in Windows 10. 32-bit doesn't
> work in any older system at all:
> http://luci.criosweb.ro/riot/bbpress/topic.php?id=624
>
> Note the dates for those reports. The problems in RIOT aren't
> fixed so far.
>
> For PNG you can use new OptiPNG plugin - this algorithm is also a
> part of RIOT tool. Internal PNG support in IrfanView has been
> improved some time ago and now it gives better results than RIOT
> with fast optimization.
Thank you for the links. I spent some time on the Irfanview site and
> * Old RIOT 0.62 (32-bit) doesn't work properly with IrfanView
> (32-bit) in Windows 10 (64-bit):
> http://luci.criosweb.ro/riot/bbpress/topic.php?id=592
> * New RIOT 1.0.1 works properly only in Windows 10. 32-bit doesn't
> work in any older system at all:
> http://luci.criosweb.ro/riot/bbpress/topic.php?id=624
>
> Note the dates for those reports. The problems in RIOT aren't
> fixed so far.
>
> For PNG you can use new OptiPNG plugin - this algorithm is also a
> part of RIOT tool. Internal PNG support in IrfanView has been
> improved some time ago and now it gives better results than RIOT
> with fast optimization.
user forum looking for the justification for disabling RIOT, but I
couldn't find anything. I've been using an older version of RIOT and
haven't encountered any of those problems. I wish Irfanview made it
possible to turn the plugin back on with a warning, perhaps. Irfanview
does many useful things, but its integration with RIOT is one feature I
use all the time. I find it incredibly useful to play with RIOT's
sliders until I find the best balance between compression and file
size. Irfanview's suggestion, to use the "Compress to file size" option
isn't a good substitute for me.
Nil
May 27, 2021, 1:54:19 PM5/27/21
to
On 27 May 2021, Yrrah <Yrra...@acf.invalid> wrote in
alt.comp.freeware:
> Nil <redn...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>:
- what I usually do is do some image manipulation with Irfanview, like
color and brightness, cropping and rotating, etc. Then I send that to
RIOT before saving. IOW, everything takes place in memory until I
compress and save with RIOT. I'm afraid that the External Editor
function will just send the saved image file to RIOT.
Anyway, I'll test that out. Thanks for the suggestion.
alt.comp.freeware:
> Nil <redn...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>:
>
>> for some reason, the author has now blocked the use of RIOT,
>> an image optimization plugin that's been included for as long as
>> I've been using Irfanview. I use this plugin almost every day.
>> So, for me, the previous version, 4.57, may be the end of the
>> line.
>
>> for some reason, the author has now blocked the use of RIOT,
>> an image optimization plugin that's been included for as long as
>> I've been using Irfanview. I use this plugin almost every day.
>> So, for me, the previous version, 4.57, may be the end of the
>> line.
>
> There is a stand-alone build of RIOT, even a portable version
> (curent version: 1.0.1):
> https://riot-optimizer.com/download/
>
> It can be used with IrfanView as an external editor.
> Options, Properties/Settings, Miscellaneous, Set...
> (curent version: 1.0.1):
> https://riot-optimizer.com/download/
>
> It can be used with IrfanView as an external editor.
> Options, Properties/Settings, Miscellaneous, Set...
> And voilà, the most recent version of IrfanView with the
> integrated RIOTool. It even works with Linux+WINE.
Good idea! I'll have to try that. It has to work a certain way, though
> integrated RIOTool. It even works with Linux+WINE.
- what I usually do is do some image manipulation with Irfanview, like
color and brightness, cropping and rotating, etc. Then I send that to
RIOT before saving. IOW, everything takes place in memory until I
compress and save with RIOT. I'm afraid that the External Editor
function will just send the saved image file to RIOT.
Anyway, I'll test that out. Thanks for the suggestion.
Nil
May 27, 2021, 8:59:11 PM5/27/21
to
On 27 May 2021, "Andrzej P. Wozniak" <us...@poczta.onet.pl.invalid>
wrote in alt.comp.freeware:
> Beware - RIOT is buggy. That's the reason.
wrote in alt.comp.freeware:
>
> * Old RIOT 0.62 (32-bit) doesn't work properly with IrfanView
> (32-bit) in Windows 10 (64-bit):
> http://luci.criosweb.ro/riot/bbpress/topic.php?id=592
> * New RIOT 1.0.1 works properly only in Windows 10. 32-bit doesn't
> work in any older system at all:
> http://luci.criosweb.ro/riot/bbpress/topic.php?id=624
>
> Note the dates for those reports. The problems in RIOT aren't
> fixed so far.
>
> For PNG you can use new OptiPNG plugin - this algorithm is also a
> part of RIOT tool. Internal PNG support in IrfanView has been
> improved some time ago and now it gives better results than RIOT
> with fast optimization.
I just found this little notice that may explain things better. The way
> * Old RIOT 0.62 (32-bit) doesn't work properly with IrfanView
> (32-bit) in Windows 10 (64-bit):
> http://luci.criosweb.ro/riot/bbpress/topic.php?id=592
> * New RIOT 1.0.1 works properly only in Windows 10. 32-bit doesn't
> work in any older system at all:
> http://luci.criosweb.ro/riot/bbpress/topic.php?id=624
>
> Note the dates for those reports. The problems in RIOT aren't
> fixed so far.
>
> For PNG you can use new OptiPNG plugin - this algorithm is also a
> part of RIOT tool. Internal PNG support in IrfanView has been
> improved some time ago and now it gives better results than RIOT
> with fast optimization.
I read this is that 'programming philosophy' disagreements have more to
do with the removal of RIOT than bugs or anything else:
https://riot-optimizer.com/riot-reaches-version-1-0-with-amazing-changes/
"Unfortunately there are low chances RIOT will ever be implemented in
IrfanView on the 64bit version, not because RIOT does not work, but
because Irfan has some weird demands (yes, I really mean demands) on the
size and packaging of the RIOT plugin. IrfanView does not have an open
plugin architecture, so unless me and him agree on something and he
accepts to simply add the support manually (since again, his plugin
architecture is not open, which defeats the purpose of using plugins
btw), you are stuck with using the 32 bit version and probably an older
version of IV in the future, if he removes RIOT support altogether from
it’s 32 bit version. He insists of bundling the plugin, even if only
the support is necessary, and the installation can be made by RIOT as it
was for the recent years when the plugin was updated, and there were no
issues with that in the past years. Also he has some crazy ideas on
having a single dll (controlling the structure of how RIOT is made) and
expectations about the size, which would only be bellow 3 MB anyway ,
and that request to go bellow 3 MB is silly now with these 1 TB
harddrives.. We are not in 1996 anymore when I had a 160 MB disk. RIOT
is quite complex and has support for formats for which iV has plugins,
also the 64 bit adds overhead. Can’t see why this fixation for size
and how one megabytes makes any difference for a user with a terrabyte
harddrive. Users don’t fill their disks with programs, they fill them
with data. Basically the 64 bit version of IV now has that "Save for
web" menu option coded to not try to run RIOT, even if RIOT would
actually work on 64 bit.
"Anyway, we’ll see what happens. Maybe you will have the 64 bit
version for IV, but it’s really not my call here."
Nil
May 27, 2021, 9:05:34 PM5/27/21
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On 27 May 2021, Nil <redn...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote in
alt.comp.freeware:
> On 27 May 2021, Yrrah <Yrra...@acf.invalid> wrote in
> alt.comp.freeware:
>
gonna do the job for me. It was as I suspected - stand-alone RIOT
receives the disk file, not the image-in-memory that I've been editing
with Irfanview. I'll have to stay with the Irfanview 4.57 and an old
version of RIOT.
alt.comp.freeware:
> On 27 May 2021, Yrrah <Yrra...@acf.invalid> wrote in
> alt.comp.freeware:
>
>> There is a stand-alone build of RIOT, even a portable version
>> (curent version: 1.0.1):
>> https://riot-optimizer.com/download/
>>
>> It can be used with IrfanView as an external editor.
>> Options, Properties/Settings, Miscellaneous, Set...
>> And voilà, the most recent version of IrfanView with the
>> integrated RIOTool. It even works with Linux+WINE.
>
> Good idea! I'll have to try that. It has to work a certain way,
> though - what I usually do is do some image manipulation with
> Irfanview, like color and brightness, cropping and rotating, etc.
> Then I send that to RIOT before saving. IOW, everything takes
> place in memory until I compress and save with RIOT. I'm afraid
> that the External Editor function will just send the saved image
> file to RIOT.
>
> Anyway, I'll test that out. Thanks for the suggestion.
Well, I just tried it out, and RIOT as a stand-alone editor is not
>> (curent version: 1.0.1):
>> https://riot-optimizer.com/download/
>>
>> It can be used with IrfanView as an external editor.
>> Options, Properties/Settings, Miscellaneous, Set...
>> And voilà, the most recent version of IrfanView with the
>> integrated RIOTool. It even works with Linux+WINE.
>
> Good idea! I'll have to try that. It has to work a certain way,
> though - what I usually do is do some image manipulation with
> Irfanview, like color and brightness, cropping and rotating, etc.
> Then I send that to RIOT before saving. IOW, everything takes
> place in memory until I compress and save with RIOT. I'm afraid
> that the External Editor function will just send the saved image
> file to RIOT.
>
> Anyway, I'll test that out. Thanks for the suggestion.
gonna do the job for me. It was as I suspected - stand-alone RIOT
receives the disk file, not the image-in-memory that I've been editing
with Irfanview. I'll have to stay with the Irfanview 4.57 and an old
version of RIOT.
John C.
May 28, 2021, 2:33:13 AM5/28/21
to
Nil wrote:
and it's never let me down. The problem is more likely with IrfanView.
For years, I had difficulty with IrfanView not maximizing the program
window properly. I emailed Irfan Skiljan a couple of times about the
problem, but he never responded. Eventually, I quit using IrfanView and
eventually settled on FastStone Image Viewer, which IMO has no problems
I can see.
I never went back.
--
John C. BS206. No ad, CD, commercial, cripple, demo, nag, pirated,
share, spy, time-limited, trial or web wares for me please. I filter out
posts made from Google Groups and cross-posted (sent to more than one
newsgroup at a time) messages. I recommend you do likewise.
> Andrzej P. Wozniak wrote:
>>
>> Beware - RIOT is buggy. That's the reason.
In and of itself, no. It's not. I've used it for years to resize images
>>
>> Beware - RIOT is buggy. That's the reason.
and it's never let me down. The problem is more likely with IrfanView.
window properly. I emailed Irfan Skiljan a couple of times about the
problem, but he never responded. Eventually, I quit using IrfanView and
eventually settled on FastStone Image Viewer, which IMO has no problems
I can see.
I never went back.
--
John C. BS206. No ad, CD, commercial, cripple, demo, nag, pirated,
share, spy, time-limited, trial or web wares for me please. I filter out
posts made from Google Groups and cross-posted (sent to more than one
newsgroup at a time) messages. I recommend you do likewise.
Dex
May 28, 2021, 2:51:06 AM5/28/21
to
On 26/05/2021 17:29, Yrrah wrote:
> 35 next week:
> "IrfanView is a fast, compact and innovative FREEWARE (for
> non-commercial use) graphic viewer for Windows XP, Vista, 7, 8 and 10"
> and Linux+Wine.
> "IrfanView is provided as freeware, but only for private,
> non-commercial use (that means at home).
> IrfanView is free for educational use (schools, universities, museums
> and libraries) and for use in charity or humanitarian organisations."
> (Initial release: June 1, 1996)
> Home:
> https://www.irfanview.com/
> Features:
> https://www.irfanview.com/main_what_is_engl.htm
> What's new:
> https://www.irfanview.com/main_history.htm
> Downloads:
> https://www.irfanview.com/64bit.htm
> and
> https://www.irfanview.com/main_download_engl.htm
>
> Works as advertised.
>
>
> Yrrah
>
New version has messed up my icons, before all picture icons were the
> 35 next week:
> "IrfanView is a fast, compact and innovative FREEWARE (for
> non-commercial use) graphic viewer for Windows XP, Vista, 7, 8 and 10"
> and Linux+Wine.
> "IrfanView is provided as freeware, but only for private,
> non-commercial use (that means at home).
> IrfanView is free for educational use (schools, universities, museums
> and libraries) and for use in charity or humanitarian organisations."
> (Initial release: June 1, 1996)
> Home:
> https://www.irfanview.com/
> Features:
> https://www.irfanview.com/main_what_is_engl.htm
> What's new:
> https://www.irfanview.com/main_history.htm
> Downloads:
> https://www.irfanview.com/64bit.htm
> and
> https://www.irfanview.com/main_download_engl.htm
>
> Works as advertised.
>
>
> Yrrah
>
dark panda, now only .bmp and .jepg files are, all the rest are the red
squished cat.
Gone into setting > Extensions > icons and clicked the panda one.
Nil
May 28, 2021, 3:03:29 AM5/28/21
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On 28 May 2021, "John C." <r9j...@yahoo.com> wrote in
alt.comp.freeware:
> For years, I had difficulty with IrfanView not maximizing the
> program window properly. I emailed Irfan Skiljan a couple of times
> about the problem, but he never responded. Eventually, I quit
> using IrfanView and eventually settled on FastStone Image Viewer,
> which IMO has no problems I can see.
>
> I never went back.
I've never had that problem, or any other problem of any kind.
Irfanview has been one of the least problematic programs I've ever
used. This issue with RIOT is the first time it's not easily done just
what I wanted it to.
alt.comp.freeware:
> For years, I had difficulty with IrfanView not maximizing the
> program window properly. I emailed Irfan Skiljan a couple of times
> about the problem, but he never responded. Eventually, I quit
> using IrfanView and eventually settled on FastStone Image Viewer,
> which IMO has no problems I can see.
>
> I never went back.
Irfanview has been one of the least problematic programs I've ever
used. This issue with RIOT is the first time it's not easily done just
what I wanted it to.
TheSidhe
May 28, 2021, 8:29:30 AM5/28/21
to
On 5/28/21 8:11 AM, Yrrah wrote:
> TheSidh:
>
>
> Yrrah
>
I think I see where my confusion is, you are talking about that RIOT
program being incorporated within Irfanview, while I was thinking you
were talking about the default image viewer in Linux. I, like some, like
FastStone Image viewer but as far as I know does not work in Linux,
nowadays I prefer GIMP image manipulation program which has more options
than I will ever use.
> TheSidh:
>
>>>>>> There is a stand-alone build of RIOT, even a portable version (curent
>>>>>> version: 1.0.1):
>>>>>> https://riot-optimizer.com/download/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It can be used with IrfanView as an external editor.
>>>>>> Options, Properties/Settings, Miscellaneous, Set...
>
>>>>> Rephrased: It can be set up as an external editor in IrfanView.
>
>>>> You mean external editor in Linux,
>
>>> No, in IrfanView (Linux+Wine or MS Windows).
>>> IV Options, Properties/Settings, Miscellaneous, Set...
>
>>>>>> There is a stand-alone build of RIOT, even a portable version (curent
>>>>>> version: 1.0.1):
>>>>>> https://riot-optimizer.com/download/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It can be used with IrfanView as an external editor.
>>>>>> Options, Properties/Settings, Miscellaneous, Set...
>
>>>>> Rephrased: It can be set up as an external editor in IrfanView.
>
>>>> You mean external editor in Linux,
>
>>> No, in IrfanView (Linux+Wine or MS Windows).
>>> IV Options, Properties/Settings, Miscellaneous, Set...
>
>> In other words from within Irfanview ..settings..
>
> Yes.
>
>
>
> Yrrah
>
I think I see where my confusion is, you are talking about that RIOT
program being incorporated within Irfanview, while I was thinking you
were talking about the default image viewer in Linux. I, like some, like
FastStone Image viewer but as far as I know does not work in Linux,
nowadays I prefer GIMP image manipulation program which has more options
than I will ever use.
Nil
May 28, 2021, 1:15:46 PM5/28/21
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On 28 May 2021, Yrrah <Yrra...@acf.invalid> wrote in
alt.comp.freeware:
> Nil <redn...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>:
> first before you run RIOT as the external IV editor.
That would incur another round of lossy compression - not acceptible -
unless I made an interim file in a lossless format - too much work.
alt.comp.freeware:
> Nil <redn...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>:
>
>> what I usually do is do some image manipulation with
>> > Irfanview, like color and brightness, cropping and rotating,
>> > etc. Then I send that to RIOT before saving. IOW, everything
>> > takes place in memory until I compress and save with RIOT. I'm
>> > afraid that the External Editor function will just send the
>> > saved image file to RIOT.
>
>> what I usually do is do some image manipulation with
>> > Irfanview, like color and brightness, cropping and rotating,
>> > etc. Then I send that to RIOT before saving. IOW, everything
>> > takes place in memory until I compress and save with RIOT. I'm
>> > afraid that the External Editor function will just send the
>> > saved image file to RIOT.
>
>> Well, I just tried it out, and RIOT as a stand-alone editor is
>> not gonna do the job for me. It was as I suspected - stand-alone
>> RIOT receives the disk file, not the image-in-memory that I've
>> been editing with Irfanview. I'll have to stay with the Irfanview
>> 4.57 and an old version of RIOT.
>
> Safe the image file (File menu: 'original folder' or 'Ctrl-S')
>> not gonna do the job for me. It was as I suspected - stand-alone
>> RIOT receives the disk file, not the image-in-memory that I've
>> been editing with Irfanview. I'll have to stay with the Irfanview
>> 4.57 and an old version of RIOT.
>
> first before you run RIOT as the external IV editor.
That would incur another round of lossy compression - not acceptible -
unless I made an interim file in a lossless format - too much work.
John C.
May 28, 2021, 2:54:50 PM5/28/21
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Nil wrote:
FastStone. However, it's been so long since I've used IrfanView that I
don't remember what the other issues were. To be fair, they might have
been dealt with by now.
> John C. wrote:
>>
>> For years, I had difficulty with IrfanView not maximizing the
>> program window properly. I emailed Irfan Skiljan a couple of times
>> about the problem, but he never responded. Eventually, I quit
>> using IrfanView and eventually settled on FastStone Image Viewer,
>> which IMO has no problems I can see.
>>
>> I never went back.
>
> I've never had that problem, or any other problem of any kind.
> Irfanview has been one of the least problematic programs I've ever
> used. This issue with RIOT is the first time it's not easily done just
> what I wanted it to.
The window maximization issue was only one of a few that made me move to
>>
>> For years, I had difficulty with IrfanView not maximizing the
>> program window properly. I emailed Irfan Skiljan a couple of times
>> about the problem, but he never responded. Eventually, I quit
>> using IrfanView and eventually settled on FastStone Image Viewer,
>> which IMO has no problems I can see.
>>
>> I never went back.
>
> I've never had that problem, or any other problem of any kind.
> Irfanview has been one of the least problematic programs I've ever
> used. This issue with RIOT is the first time it's not easily done just
> what I wanted it to.
FastStone. However, it's been so long since I've used IrfanView that I
don't remember what the other issues were. To be fair, they might have
been dealt with by now.
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