Woo hoo! As of March 27th 2019,the mobile version of the Opera browser finally has VPN support

arlen holder

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Mar 30, 2019, 12:24:43 AM3/30/19

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UPDATE:
Woo hoo! As of March 27th 2019,the mobile version of the Opera browser
finally has VPN support!

This doubles_ the number of free IP-privacy browsers available to
Android users (where Opera VPN was already available on Windows & Linux).

This thread is about freeware IP-anonymity based privacy browsers.
o All browsers below were tested on the platforms that I personally own

Where my summary for free privacy-based proxy/vpn browsers is...
o Windows is has ~3-1/2 solutions
o Linux has ~3 good solutions
o Android has ~2 good solutions
o iOS has ~1/2 of a solution

If you think this summary, which is based on my tests, is in error,
simply explain what your tests showed on those four platforms
with the four IP-privacy (anonymity based) browsers below.

I've been using IP-privacy based browsers on Linux, Windows, & Android for
years, where what's new is that Opera VPN is now available on Android!

This is new as of March 27th 2019 (for IP privacy & anonymity browsing):
o The Android mobile version of the freeware Opera browser
o Finally has (what Opera calls) VPN support
NOTE to VPN-keyword-trolls: It's Opera who uses that TLA, not me.

*This adds even more free web-based IP & anonymity privacy*
o To the great IP & anonymity privacy browsing already existing!

On all platforms, I suggest you *set only a "privacy" browser as the "default"*
o That way all browsing never trace back to your real IP address

What _default_ browser never traces back to your IP address?

*The 1st platform for privacy browsers seems to be Windows*, which has:
o Tor Browser Bundle (official strong TOR implementation)
o Opera VPN-enabled browser (automatic proxy/vpn-based browsing)
o Epic privacy browser (automatic proxy/vpn-based browsing)
o Brave Tor-enabled Privacy Browser (weak TOR implementation?)

*The 2nd platform for privacy browsers seems to be Linux*, which has:
o Tor Browser Bundle (official strong TOR implementation)
o Opera VPN-enabled browser (automatically uses a VPN service)
o No Epic proxy based implementation
o Brave Tor-enabled Privacy Browser (weak TOR implementation?)

*The 3rd platform for privacy browsers always seems to be Android*, which has:
o Tor Browser for Android (official strong tor implementation - supercedes orfox/orbot)
o Opera VPN-enabled browser (automatically uses a VPN service)
o No Epic proxy based implementation
o No Brave tor-based implementation

*The worst platform for privacy is iOS (which sorely lacks IP privacy browsing)*
o The best is Onion Browser by Mike Tigas (1-man weak TOR implementation?)
o No Opera vpn-based implementation
o No Epic proxy based implementation
o No Brave tor-based implementation
NOTE: iOS does NOT have an official tor browser implementation.
[Most of the apps that "say" TOR, are literally hokey 'toys', IMHO]
If it's not the official TOR browser, it's extremely unlikely to be secure, IMHO.

Note: This thread is only about freeware anonymity based privacy browsers.
o On the platforms that I own and tested using all the browsers above.

NOTE: I own all the platforms above and tested all the browsers above on
those platforms; Mac users can comment on what IP-privacy based freeware
browsers exist on the Mac.

Andreas Rutishauser

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Mar 30, 2019, 3:01:35 AM3/30/19

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In article <q7mr27$5ka$1...@news.mixmin.net>,

arlen holder <ar...@arlen.com> wrote:

> UPDATE:
> Woo hoo! As of March 27th 2019,the mobile version of the Opera browser
> finally has VPN support!

and why are you posting your drivel to groups that are not relevant to
mobile apps?

--
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EDV-Dienstleistungen, Hard- und Software, Internet und Netzwerk
Beratung, Unterstuetzung und Schulung
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Rene Lamontagne

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Mar 30, 2019, 10:48:25 AM3/30/19

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On 03/30/2019 2:01 AM, Andreas Rutishauser wrote:
> In article <q7mr27$5ka$1...@news.mixmin.net>,
> arlen holder <ar...@arlen.com> wrote:
>
>> UPDATE:
>> Woo hoo! As of March 27th 2019,the mobile version of the Opera browser
>> finally has VPN support!
>
> and why are you posting your drivel to groups that are not relevant to
> mobile apps?
>

He's like a Magpie, he shits everywhere

Alan Browne

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Mar 30, 2019, 11:20:18 AM3/30/19

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On 2019-03-30 10:48, Rene Lamontagne wrote:

> He's like a Magpie, he shits everywhere

So do those who reply to it.

--
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need immigrants to do jobs that most Americans wouldn't do."
- unknown protester

arlen holder

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Mar 30, 2019, 12:41:33 PM3/30/19

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On Sat, 30 Mar 2019 08:01:31 +0100, Andreas Rutishauser wrote:

> and why are you posting your drivel to groups that are not relevant to
> mobile apps?

Hi Andreas Rutishauser,

IMHO, IP-based privacy was discussed in the OP for _all_ five platforms:
o (Win, Linux, Android, iOS, & Mac)
1. All five platforms are relevant to the anonymity problem set.
2. All five platforms were discussed in the original post

For example, a ranking & comparison of the available IP-privacy based
solutions was detailed in the original post, and which is further supported
by the facts provided below (since I strive for my facts to be 100% correct
on material substance).

IMHO, the factual cross-platform IP-privacy implementation summary is:
o Windows & the Mac have all 4 solutions
o Linux has 3 of those solutions
o Android has 2
o iOS has 0

Since every post should attempt to add value to our overall combined tribal
knowledge, as a courtesy to you and to all readers, here are tested links
to all the (64-bit) relevant software for the various platforms for your
benefit.

*Windows*:

o Tor Browser Bundle (official strong TOR implementation)

<https://www.torproject.org/dist/torbrowser/8.5a10/torbrowser-install-win64-8.5a10_en-US.exe>

o Opera VPN-enabled browser (automatic proxy/vpn-based browsing)

<https://www.opera.com/download/get/?partner=www&opsys=Windows&arch=x64>

o Epic privacy browser (automatic proxy/vpn-based browsing)

<https://cdn.epicbrowser.com/epicsetup.exe>

o Brave Tor-enabled Privacy Browser (weak TOR implementation?)

<https://laptop-updates.brave.com/latest/winx64>

WARNING: Both the Epic & Brave Windows installers are simply dumb & stubs.

That's bad for we who maintain offline software installation hierarchies.
o The web site does not provide a full offline installer for achival.
o Worse, the installers don't even ask where they should be installed.

Both those problems are easily solved following my unique tutorials:
o Tutorial: How to install the free Brave privacy-based tor-enabled web browser where you want it to install (and how to create a full offline installer)
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/bog50yqc_As/igWDXCO4AwAJ>
o Tutorial: How to install the free Epic privacy-based proxy-enabled web browser where you want it to install (and how to create a full offline installer)
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/hqKijRgHOC0/vB3pH-sZAgAJ>

Please note that we've tried _every_ known Windows so-called
IP-privacy-based browser, and these are the only ones which pass the test.
o Pragmatic experience with Freegate, Ultrasurf, and Polarity privacy-related web-surfing tools
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/ew-NI-iXgw8/ThCiedOmCgAJ>

*Mac*

o Tor Browser Bundle (official strong TOR implementation)

<https://www.torproject.org/dist/torbrowser/8.5a10/TorBrowser-8.5a10-osx64_en-US.dmg>

o Opera VPN-enabled browser (automatically uses a VPN service)

<https://www.opera.com/download/get/?partner=www&opsys=MacOS>

o Epic privacy browser (automatic proxy/vpn-based browsing)

<https://cdn.epicbrowser.com/epic_v71.0.3579.98.dmg>

o Brave Tor-enabled Privacy Browser (weak TOR implementation?)

<https://laptop-updates.brave.com/latest/osx>

*Linux*

o Tor Browser Bundle (official strong TOR implementation)

<https://www.torproject.org/dist/torbrowser/8.5a10/tor-browser-linux64-8.5a10_en-US.tar.xz>

o Opera VPN-enabled browser (automatically uses a VPN service)

<https://www.opera.com/download/get/?partner=www&opsys=Linux&package=RPM>
o _No Epic proxy based implementation_

o Brave Tor-enabled Privacy Browser (weak TOR implementation?)

<https://brave-browser.readthedocs.io/en/latest/installing-brave.html#linux>

*Android*:

o Tor Browser for Android (official strong tor implementation - supercedes orfox/orbot)

<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.torproject.torbrowser_alpha>

o Opera VPN-enabled browser (automatically uses a VPN service)

<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.browser>
o _No Epic proxy based implementation_
o _No Brave tor-based implementation_

*iOS*
o _No official Tor-based implementation_
o _No Opera vpn-based implementation_
o _No Epic proxy based implementation_
o _No Brave tor-based implementation_

NOTE: iOS does NOT have an official tor browser implementation.

o The best is Onion Browser by Mike Tigas (1-man weak TOR implementation?)

<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/onion-browser/id519296448>

Since I deal only with facts, if any facts are incorrect in this post,
please let me know immediately, as I strive for 100% factual credibility
and I strive to collaborate & collect our combined tribal knowledge into
logical summaries based on the facts as described.
--
PS: Rene Lamontagne, Alan Browne, Jolly Roger, BK, Lewis, Wolf K, etc.,
are all trolls who will simply be ignored, particularly since they're
chit-chat trolls who will easily prove to add no additional on-topic
technical value to _any_ thread they ever post to. (Just watch.)

nospam

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Mar 30, 2019, 1:24:25 PM3/30/19

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In article <q7o67o$4l3$1...@news.mixmin.net>, arlen holder

<ar...@arlen.com> wrote:

> IMHO, the factual cross-platform IP-privacy implementation summary is:
> o Windows & the Mac have all 4 solutions
> o Linux has 3 of those solutions
> o Android has 2
> o iOS has 0

false. there as many vpn options on ios as there are on other
platforms, if not more.

arlen holder

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Mar 30, 2019, 2:00:26 PM3/30/19

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On Sat, 30 Mar 2019 13:24:21 -0400, nospam wrote:

>> o iOS has 0
>
> false. there as many vpn options on ios as there are on other
> platforms, if not more.

Hi nospam,

Please nospam - let's not play your incessant silly games.
o You _hate_ facts about iOS so you habitually deny all facts outright.

But the fact you hate facts doesn't make those facts not facts.
o Almost always, your claims fail the simple "name just one" fact test!

My belief system is based on facts, nospam.
o Not an imaginary belief system created & fostered by MARKETING.

FACTS & LOGIC.
o You don't post _any_ cites whatsoever to back up your claim.
o I posted respective cites to the sites which back up my claim.

I'm _happy_ if your claim is correct that iOS has "many" freeware
web browsers with the (official tor / proxy / vpn) anonymity built in.

But you also recently claimed that iOS gave the users "privacy", where we
proved beyond any reasonable doubt that iOS clearly isn't any more private
than any other operating system (particularly Android was more private in
more than a dozen ways than is iOS, for example).

So you're dead wrong almost all the time, nospam, on most of your claims.
o Sadly, a simple coin toss is more accurate than your claims, nospam.

Hence, since I'm all about facts, nospam, I simply ask you to back up your
statements with facts (e.g., cites to the specific (official tor / proxy/
vpn built-in) freeware browsers on iOS so that I can test them out myself,
where, almost all the time, nospam, when I test your claims, they almost
always invariably turn out to be false).

Bear in mind, nospam, there are a zillion crappy (what I call "toy")
browsers on iOS that "claim" to be tor-based, but _none_ of them, other
than Mike Tigas' "The Onion Browser" have any reputation on reliable sites
(such as The Tor Project).
<https://www.torproject.org/about/people/>

*Mike has been _heroic_ in trying to get privacy finally on iOS:*
>https://mike.tig.as/>

But there's only so much one man can do, particularly since it's not his
day job (he is a journalist who cares about privacy and who wanted iOS
owners to someday have the kind of privacy everyone else already has).
<https://onionbrowser.com/>

Bear in mind, nospam, most of the time you flatly deny facts that don't fit
into your imaginary belief system or that don't fit marketing mantra
(where marketing's job is to create & foster imaginary belief systems)
you do so on clever subterfuge in the way you word your flat denials.

Those flat denials may work fine on the gullibles who can't comprehend
that a system-wide VPN solution, or placing any of a zillion available
proxy sites into the web browser is NOT THE SAME THING as the topic of this
thread, nospam.

So please, nospam, no more of your silly games.

If you know of an as-yet-unmentioned reliably reported free web browser on
iOS that I can test which has either the official TOR blessing, a built in
proxy for all tabs, or a built-in VPN for all tabs, then simply paste the
URL to the reliable cite, and I will _read_ that cite, nospam.

Remember my initial admonishment nospam to not play silly games.
o Most of your cites, in the past, didn't say what you "claimed" they said

So I'm going to ask you to actually _read_ your own cites, nospam
o Because every time I read them, they turn out to not say what you claim

When you provide a cite backing up your claim
o I will _test_ that freeware browser to test your claims
(Bear in mind, your credibility is worse than a coin toss, nospam.)

Meanwhile, my facts are credible, since they're easily cited in reliable media
o Facts are funny that way

*If there is such privacy on iOS, I want to test it out, nospam.*

I ask you the same question I ask myself & that I ask all adults
o Name just one

nospam

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Mar 30, 2019, 3:07:58 PM3/30/19

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In article <q7oarl$esn$1...@news.mixmin.net>, arlen holder

<ar...@arlen.com> wrote:

>
> I'm _happy_ if your claim is correct that iOS has "many" freeware
> web browsers with the (official tor / proxy / vpn) anonymity built in.

i never said vpn was built into a browser, which is one of the dumbest
and least secure implementations possible.

arlen holder

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Mar 30, 2019, 4:10:52 PM3/30/19

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On Sat, 30 Mar 2019 15:07:54 -0400, nospam wrote:

>> I'm _happy_ if your claim is correct that iOS has "many" freeware
>> web browsers with the (official tor / proxy / vpn) anonymity built in.
>
> i never said vpn was built into a browser, which is one of the dumbest
> and least secure implementations possible.

Hi nospam,

I _knew_ you'd fail, as usual, the simple 3-word fact test
o Name just one

Your credibility is usually worse than the outcome of a coin toss, nospam.
o You love to deny facts based on incidentally spurious red herrings.

Nobody was fooled, but you that this thread is _clearly_ about BROWSERS!
o This thread is _clearly_ about free browsers built in IP anonymity.

That leaves the FACTUAL cross platform summary as the following:
o Windows & the Mac have all 4 privacy solutions
o Linux has 3 of those privacy solutions

o Android has 2
o iOS has 0

As always, I'm not at all afraid of facts.
o Facts _bolster_ my belief system.

If anyone has _other_ free reliable built-in (official tor, vpn, or proxy)
BROWSERS to test, let us all know - and I'll be glad to test them!
o Name just one (that I missed, if it exists)

sms

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Mar 30, 2019, 9:54:16 PM3/30/19

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<snip>

While it's nice to have the VPN support built into the browser, it's not
a big deal to use a separate VPN service. When you have a separate VPN
service it works on all browsers.

arlen holder

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On Sat, 30 Mar 2019 18:54:09 -0700, sms wrote:

> While it's nice to have the VPN support built into the browser, it's not
> a big deal to use a separate VPN service. When you have a separate VPN
> service it works on all browsers.

Hi Steve,

FACTS & LOGIC:
I don't disagree with your statement, as it's logical what you assess.
o In fact, I'm using a random system-wide VPN while sending this very Usenet post
(My system randomly is on any of 6,000 VPN servers at any given time.)

I can talk to you differently than the apologists because you're an adult.
o We don't waste time arguing obvious facts (adults are funny that way)
o We can spend our energy discussing the logical ramifications

*There are quite a few ADVANTAGES of a Tor/VPN/proxy-based browser*
o These are advantages over a "system-wide" tor/vpn/proxy solution

*TBB*
Bear in mind there is a complexity to all privacy-based decisions, where,
for example, using the TBB is the "safest" but often the slowest, and,
since all exit nodes are public, it's often blocked with undecipherable
Captcha, but worse, the default _settings_ on the TBB can be strict (mine
are).

*OPERA*
Sometimes, you just want a "faster" albeit not as strong anonymity, which
is where something like Opera _instantly_ comes in handy. Opera uses,
AFAIK, foreign servers, which, without the onion setup, are FASTER than the
TBB, and less often blocked with Captcha.

*EPIC*
Meanwhile, if you want something even faster, and with USA selectable
servers, then Epic comes in handy. For example, Epic is perfect for
watching YouTube movies without Google being able to figure out your IP
address. (I wouldn't even think of using YouTube on TBB, for example.)

*BRAVE*
Last, but not least, Brave has one advantage over the others in that you
can set any given tab to be TOR-enabled, which gives you a flexibility you
don't get with the other browsers.

Having said that, I fully agree with you that VPN is a "system wide"
solution, where you have to realize that I tested _fingerprinting_ results
from all of these browsers, using a system-wide VPN of course, and they
were _different_.

For example, look at this recent thread on the fingerprinting differences:
(These tests were all done while I was on a system-wide VPN also.)
o How does the Brave Browser "-tor" option work differently than the Tor Browser Bundle?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/h3jqSBKawGU/zgpbLrF9AgAJ>

My point is that, even on VPN, your browser can be fingerprinted, which
could, in a worse case scenario, uniquely identify you despite your hiding
of your IP address.

What you want is a browser that isn't easily fingerprinted, such as TBB is
set up to be, by default.

BTW, I know you know Steve, that I'm a strong proponent of VPN, but, when
you're browsing, you don't _need_ a system-wide VPN (which slows a lot of
things down, as you are aware) IF you have VPN in the browser itself.

*VPN*
It's also MUCH EASIER for a basic user to install a browser than to install
a VPN solution, although, I'm sure you're aware, I've written tutorials to
help others instantly set up & test simple VPN solutions for themselves.
o How to get up & running on a free public vpn service in minutes on Android or iOS
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/Bv8bwG4ggnc/MgPhvvgHEgAJ>
CAVEAT: Running VPN takes seconds; picking the best could take an entire lifetime.

*PROXY*
Bear in mind, you hear a _lot_ of talk about "proxies", where, in general,
a proxy is substandard to these built-in solutions in terms of the setup
involved and the utility for all tabs of the browsers.
o What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts?
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.os.linux/nW_54TSBBEE>

In summary, certainly a system-wide VPN is a solution to "some" of the
issues, but a system-wide VPN takes a lot more thought to get right than
just installing a browser does, and, even then, it slows _everything_ down,
while a browser-based VPN installs easily on multiple platforms, has the
same use model on all platforms, and only slows down browsing activity.

FACTS & LOGIC
o Adults generally don't disagree on basic facts (facts are funny that way)
o We can logically disagree on making decisions based on those facts

J.O. Aho

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Mar 31, 2019, 4:21:07 AM3/31/19

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On 3/30/19 5:41 PM, arlen holder wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Mar 2019 08:01:31 +0100, Andreas Rutishauser wrote:
>
>> and why are you posting your drivel to groups that are not relevant to
>> mobile apps?
>

> IMHO, IP-based privacy was discussed in the OP for _all_ five platforms:
> o (Win, Linux, Android, iOS, & Mac)
> 1. All five platforms are relevant to the anonymity problem set.
> 2. All five platforms were discussed in the original post

And you missed to use alt.privacy
I do agree with Andreas that your latest posts are off topic for the
user groups you have selected to post to.
If your argument had been a sound one, then why did you just limit your
post to users of a specific version of microsoft windows, why not pot to
a generic group where all the users would have "benefited" of your
monologue.

--

//Aho

arlen holder

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Mar 31, 2019, 2:34:39 PM3/31/19

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On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 10:21:02 +0200, J.O. Aho wrote:

> I do agree with Andreas that your latest posts are off topic for the
> user groups you have selected to post to.

Hi J.O. Aho,

You're not a well-known apologist like Andreas Rutishauser is known as
o So I treat your opinion as one from an adult (since you act like an adult).

Henceforth, all f'ups will be set to comp.mobile.android only.

Dan Purgert

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sms wrote:
> On 3/29/2019 9:24 PM, arlen holder wrote:
>> UPDATE:
>> Woo hoo! As of March 27th 2019,the mobile version of the Opera browser
>> finally has VPN support!
>

><snip>
>
> While it's nice to have the VPN support built into the browser, it's not
> a big deal to use a separate VPN service. When you have a separate VPN
> service it works on all browsers.
>

Now, now, we can't be injecting logic into this discussion .. :)

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Mike Smith

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Apr 2, 2019, 2:18:04 PM4/2/19

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FWIW I found this topic interesting - We provide IT support for disabled people and carers and the portable version of Thunderbird has been a boon.

Cheers

Mike

Flasherly

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Apr 2, 2019, 3:06:42 PM4/2/19

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On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 17:23:02 -0000 (UTC), Dan Purgert <d...@djph.net>
wrote:

>> While it's nice to have the VPN support built into the browser, it's not
>> a big deal to use a separate VPN service. When you have a separate VPN
>> service it works on all browsers.
>>
>
>Now, now, we can't be injecting logic into this discussion .. :)

It is something of a deal. VPNs, some, are a dime-a-dozen, dog & pony
shows, impaired with come-on paid subscriptions, to get past tracking
and monitoring you, usually for limited bandwidths. Trust me, in
other words, in big bold lettering. It might work just fine for
reading newspapers online, those that don't reject you.

What you're saying this entails, though, in a stand-alone
configuration - presumably Opera would mean by 'mobile' - could be
interesting. The way I see this, is that what you do simply is to put
Chinese cybersecurity expert, Yahui Zhou's browser, OPERA, on stick of
USB and -voilà- instant VPN, as good as anything the West has yet to
offer.

That's it. No VPNs to register, correspond, identify, emphasize or
affiliate with. Don't you have to go first to Beijing Military Academy
of Computer Sciences, or something, first in order to be cybersecurity
in China, or did I miss anything else?

Diesel

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Apr 2, 2019, 6:37:27 PM4/2/19

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arlen holder <ar...@arlen.com> news:q7mr27$5ka$1...@news.mixmin.net

Sat, 30 Mar 2019 04:24:40 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote:

> UPDATE:
> Woo hoo! As of March 27th 2019,the mobile version of the Opera
> browser finally has VPN support!

ROFL

Did you ever get the sharing of android internal/external memory
working so you could mount a drive letter and do as you pleased with
them, yet?

It's been months now, Arlen. Where's your tutorial on the subject?
*giggle*

* I know I shouldn't have, but, I couldn't resist. I'm very sorry, I'll
try much harder not to do it again next time.

--
If cats have kittens, do bats have bittens?

John McWilliams

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Apr 2, 2019, 7:01:49 PM4/2/19

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Apr 4, 2019, 9:36:40 AM4/4/19

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On 03/04/2019 01:40, Diesel wrote:
> John McWilliams <jp...@comcast.net> news:q80pkp$sij$1...@dont-email.me

>> xposts
>
> For fucks sake, would you please learn to read headers?
> The originator of the xposting (the person you should be complaining
> to) in this case is the original poster, not me, you dumb shit. I've
> left things as they were in my reply, I didn't originate any xposting
> on this one.
>
> Message-ID: <q7mr27$5ka$1...@news.mixmin.net>
>
> Respond to Arlen with your netcopping drivel.

John McWilliams is trying to act as a Usenet policeman. I'm sure his
intentions are honourable.

Sadly, whilst I can understand what he's endeavouring to do, it appears
to be making things worse.

If you wish to discuss matters with ME, Diesel, please keep it to the
'alt.computer.workshop' group.

Thanks.

(Follow-up set)

-- D.

Lidrie

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Apr 4, 2019, 11:23:53 AM4/4/19

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*arlen holder*, dopo iessisi sfuarçât une vore, le matine dal 30 ultin al è
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> This thread is about freeware IP-anonymity based privacy browsers.

IP-anonymity only? No fingerprint?
Test on https://panopticlick.eff.org

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Diesel

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Apr 7, 2019, 3:08:17 AM4/7/19

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arlen holder <ar...@arlen.com> news:q81ma4$it8$8...@news.mixmin.net

Wed, 03 Apr 2019 07:11:01 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote:

> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 22:37:24 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote:
>
>> Did you ever get the sharing of android internal/external memory
>> working so you could mount a drive letter and do as you pleased
>> with them, yet?
>
> Hi Diesel,
>
> I presume you hang out on a.c.f so I send this here to respond.

I've been known to.

> What's amazing about you Diesel, is how Snit-like you are.
> o You don't have _any_ solution

I offered you several solutions. I'm not in the habit of offering
things/advice/information I cannot provide. The only condition was
your loss of the unnecessary arrogant attitude you have. Imo, you
have no right to display that towards me, it's your knowledge base
that's inferior to mine, not the other way around.

> All you have are _imaginary_ solutions.

They are not imaginary. They are working quite nicely infact. I have
read/write access via a drive letter as far as my network is
concerned to the internal/external (sdcard) of my android phone
whenever it's tied into a particular machine on the network. I could
just as easily move it to another machine, though.

I have one drive letter for each and they provide me the same access
as I would have if I was just using the phone in a normal USB
connected manner. It's just more convenient.

> You're like the guy who, at dinner, always puts his hands in his
> pockets when the bill comes, but no money every comes out of his
> pockets.

You're talking shit. It's why months later, you still remain without
a working solution to that problem of yours.

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Diesel

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Apr 7, 2019, 3:08:17 AM4/7/19

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Daniel60 <dani...@eternal-september.org>
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Excuse me?

> John seems to be reading messages cross-posted to FOUR groups with
> a Followup-To: to one group. This group might change each time,
> but still only one group.

Well, you see, the problem is, theres these pesky things known as a
reference line. Arlen's post is present in said line, John could have
checked to see who originated posting to SIX newsgroups as well as
who trimmed them to four.

> In reply, you, however, Diesel, are then cross-posting to SIX
> groups with no "Followup-To:".

I replied to the original poster, who had already set six newsgroups
for there post.

> So it would seem you, Diesel, cannot be blaming the OP for your
> doings! Just accept that John doesn't want his posts being
> plastered all over the Internet!!

See above. And below. I stand by what I wrote to. He needs to learn
to read headers before he places blame.

From: arlen holder <ar...@arlen.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.comp.freeware,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.os.w
indows-10,comp.mobile.android,comp.sys.mac.apps

Message-ID: <q7mr27$5ka$1...@news.mixmin.net>

Those are the same SIX newsgroups I left in my reply to him. I didn't
add ANY additional groups. I REPLIED to his and left everything as he
did.

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Daniel60

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Apr 7, 2019, 5:39:38 AM4/7/19

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Really?? Is that *their* post over *there* , Diesel??

In my newsreader, your post, Diesel, lists as being a reply directly to
John (who was responding to a previous post by you), not to the OP, arlen.

>> So it would seem you, Diesel, cannot be blaming the OP for your
>> doings! Just accept that John doesn't want his posts being
>> plastered all over the Internet!!
>
> See above. And below. I stand by what I wrote to. He needs to learn
> to read headers before he places blame.
>
> From: arlen holder <ar...@arlen.com>
> Newsgroups:
> alt.comp.freeware,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.os.w
> indows-10,comp.mobile.android,comp.sys.mac.apps
>
> Message-ID: <q7mr27$5ka$1...@news.mixmin.net>
>
> Those are the same SIX newsgroups I left in my reply to him. I didn't
> add ANY additional groups. I REPLIED to his and left everything as he
> did.

Sure, no worries .... but John (I guess) didn't want conversations
involving *HIS* post occurring all over the Internet maybe in groups
that he didn't frequent, so he set follow up to a group that he
frequent, so he could follow the conversation.

*NOTED* that after I set a follow up, *YOU* choose to ignore that!!

Followup-To: set to alt.linux .

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Daniel