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Thip

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Dec 30, 2009, 2:15:56 PM12/30/09
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If anyone moves to 7 (I'm loving it!!!), following the first set of
instructions at http://www.elitekiller.com/files/disable_antivir_nag.htm
will disable that annoying Avira nag screen.

VanguardLH

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Dec 30, 2009, 2:34:53 PM12/30/09
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Thip wrote:

Moving to Windows 7 is irrelevant regarding the nag screen. It happens with
earlier versions of Windows, too. It is an Avira thing, not an OS thing.
Below is my canned reply regarding Avira's nag screens.

There are 2 "splash" screens in Avira's free Antivir product. One is the
load-time banner and the other is the adware popup during updates.

To remove the load-time adware splash screen:
- Run regedit.exe.
- Go to HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Run.
- Find the entry that loads the Avira UI program.
- At the end of the command, add "/nosplash" (sans quotes).

To eliminate the update-time adware screen, do ONE of the following:
- Rename the avnotify.exe file in Avira's installation folder. Rename
to something else, like avnotify.exx.
- Move avnotify.exe out of Avira's installation folder. Save it
elsewhere.
- Create a software restriction policy that prevents it from loading:
o Run the policy editor (gpedit.msc).
o Go to the following node in the tree list:
Computer Configuration
Windows Settings
Security Settings
Software Restriction Policies
Additional Rules
o Create a new Path policy. Navigate to and select the avnotify.exe
file. Select to "Disallow" this executable. This has the OS refuse
to load this program.

I use a policy. It is possible that a program update would replace the
avnotify.exe. So renaming it or moving it won't help because a new one
shows up. The policy doesn't care and will still block that file in that
path from running.

Thip

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Dec 30, 2009, 3:43:50 PM12/30/09
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"VanguardLH" <V...@nguard.LH> wrote in message
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> Thip wrote:
>
>
> Moving to Windows 7 is irrelevant regarding the nag screen. It happens
> with
> earlier versions of Windows, too. It is an Avira thing, not an OS thing.
> Below is my canned reply regarding Avira's nag screens.

<snip>

1. I learned the hard (HARD) way not to fiddle with the registry. Period.
Even if it's backed up. I'm in no way a computer newbie and my skill level
is relatively high,
but this animal speaks a slightly different language.
2. Find a 7 Home computer and try to run gpedit,msc. I dare you.
3. I probably could have moved/renamed avnotify.exe but chose to follow the
directions I posted instead. It worked. I shared the info. Case closed.

David H. Lipman

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Dec 30, 2009, 3:55:34 PM12/30/09
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From: "Thip" <m...@privacy.net>

| <snip>


That's the point I would have made. GPEdit.msc isn't available in Home versions of tghe
OS (Vista, XP and Win7).

Even if you reanmed/moved avnotify.exe, AntiVir is cognizant of such actions and will take
appropriate actions to restore the EXE file.
Blocking the SYSTEM from running avnotify.exe is the way to go.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp


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VanguardLH

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Dec 30, 2009, 6:26:22 PM12/30/09
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Thip wrote:

The real issue is that YOU don't have a version of Windows 7 that can
participate on a domain. You bought the Home edition. Well, the Home
editions of Windows XP, Vista, and Windows 7 don't include a policy editor.
However, gpedit.msc *is* available in the non-crippled editions. Policies
are typically applicable in domain setups but they can be handy for
controlling the behavior of your non-domain setup.

If you are using a crippled Home edition of Windows XP/Vista/7 then you
might choose to use a HIPS (host intrusion protection system) enabled
security product. Lots of them, like firewalls from Comodo and OnlineArmor,
let you deny execution of a file even when (not if) it gets replaced by a
program update for the security app.

So what is YOUR solution as a replacement to using a policy to provide a
consistent disable of avnotify.exe? Deleting, renaming, or moving the file
may not survive the next program update from Avira. Something BETTER is
needed to keep Avira from executing that spam app (until they decide to roll
it into the main executable and force their software into unavoidable adware
status).

Check the link that you provided. It's an old article and has not been
updated for awhile. There is no set of instructions for Windows 7 on that
web page to which you linked.

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Thip

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Dec 30, 2009, 8:00:07 PM12/30/09
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"VanguardLH" <V...@nguard.LH> wrote in message

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Well, no duh, buddy. Of course it's old. But "old" doesn't always equal
"useless" so I tried it--and it worked just fine on Windows 7. I'm sorry
you have a problem with that, and I also apologize for now bowing to your
obviously superior knowledge. However, YOU were the one who loftily
provided so-called solutions without having pertinent info at hand--but of
course you will blame me for not providing said info. It can't be your
fault, can it?

I don't consider 7 Home to be "crippled" in that it suits my needs (what do
I need a domain for?), and I believe it's ridiculous to throw money away so
I can say I have more/better/faster/stronger/longer. My ego doesn't need
it; others' evidently do.

VanguardLH

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Dec 31, 2009, 1:02:53 AM12/31/09
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Thip wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote ...

I'm not the one with the problem (not using Avira anymore). You never
mentioned WHICH version of Windows 7 that you use so respondents have to
guess. As to what is likely that you are using for the edition of Windows
7, that depends if I'm also supposed to guess if this was for a home or
work installation. I don't have any stats or vast experience with home
users to know if the majority of them get the Home edition of Windows
XP/Vista/7. In the workplace, the Home edition is a rare occurrence.

I wasn't the one making the absolute declaration that the policy editor is
not available in Windows 7. "Try to find gpedit.msc. I dare you." Since I
don't putz around with the Home editions, it was a forethought consideration
to include in my reply. If you had mention you were using Windows 7 Home
then, yeah, boing, I would've realized why it wasn't an option for you.

> However, YOU were the one who loftily provided so-called solutions without
> having pertinent info at hand--but of course you will blame me for not
> providing said info. It can't be your fault, can it?

Where did you think I got some of the steps in my canned response? That
article was one such source. It was because I saw the avnotify.exe
reappear after a program update that I added the option of using a policy
to keep that file from executing. The policy could be one enforced by
Windows (if you have a non-Home edition of Windows) or by some security
application that applies rules to applications and whether or not they can
load, like many that now include HIPS.

> I don't consider 7 Home to be "crippled" in that it suits my needs (what
> do I need a domain for?), and I believe it's ridiculous to throw money
> away so I can say I have more/better/faster/stronger/longer. My ego
> doesn't need it; others' evidently do.

You think Microsoft actually has a completely different code branch for
their Home editions? They take the code for their full product and then
cripple features to dumb it down to other markets, like for consumers or
end users. Home is a crippled version of Pro which is a crippled version
of Ultimate. Like you said, you pick the level of crippling that satisfies
your needs but stop trying to pretend that you don't have a crippled
version. Many freeware products mentioned here are crippled versions of a
product. I use Avast free. That's a crippled version. I have OnlineArmor
in storage for both the free (crippled) and full (non-crippled since I got
in on a short 1-day giveaway) versions. I have the Cyberlink DVD player
that came with the CD/DVD-RW drive and its a crippled version. That the
Home editions of Windows are crippled versions apparently incensed your
ego. I wasn't trying to assuage your ego in your choice of Windows
version. I was blunt and truthful. "Home" was just a nice label to divert
consumers that it *is* a crippled version.

I will update my canned response to note that the policy editor is not
available in the Home editions of Windows and have to put in how a policy
might still be used to forcibly disallow execution of avnotify.exe (even if
a program update replaces it).

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Man-wai Chang to The Door (24000bps)

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Dec 31, 2009, 7:44:55 AM12/31/09
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> There are 2 "splash" screens in Avira's free Antivir product. One is the
> load-time banner and the other is the adware popup during updates.

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Dec 31, 2009, 10:03:39 AM12/31/09
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On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:16:29 +0100, FredW wrote:

> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:02:53 -0600, VanguardLH <V...@nguard.LH> wrote:
>>Thip wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, no duh, buddy. Of course it's old. But "old" doesn't always equal
>>> "useless" so I tried it--and it worked just fine on Windows 7. I'm sorry
>>> you have a problem with that, and I also apologize for now bowing to your
>>> obviously superior knowledge.
>>
>>I'm not the one with the problem (not using Avira anymore).
>

> As you don't use Avira anymore, why bother with so much useless comment?

he's useless let him ramble on

Thip

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Dec 31, 2009, 12:42:29 PM12/31/09
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"FredW" <fr...@blackholespam.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:02:53 -0600, VanguardLH <V...@nguard.LH> wrote:

>>I'm not the one with the problem (not using Avira anymore).
>

> As you don't use Avira anymore, why bother with so much useless comment?

> I think your opinion is quite "irrelevant" and "crippled".
> I have no desire to read your "lectures" anymore.
>
> Have a nice new year.
>
> --
> Fred W. (NL)

Thank you.

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