Re: MP3myMP3 Recorder 3.0 _Spyware?!
JP Loken
<F.Reewa...@hotmail.com>:
> (Q)
> Record internet radio and save to mp3 or wav. Record from any sound
> source, rip vinyl, rip cd-roms, batch rename, create playlists and
> more.
> (/Q)
>
> http://www.mp3mymp3.com/mp3_my_mp3_recorder.html
>
> F. Reeware
My firewall made me suspicious. Even before the opening dialogue box
opened, several processes that needed internet access started. I
immediately stopped the installation to search for information.
This alarmed me:
http://download.cnet.com/MP3-My-MP3-Recorder/3640-2140_4-10902239-1.html
No mention of the program in SnapFiles nor Softpedia, IOW no guarantee
there for the software being clean.
(Note that MyMP3 is a different program.)
Rkverify.exe was downloaded on my computer. Info here:
http://spywarefiles.prevx.com/RRCFGJ44502682/RKVERIFY.EXE.html
RelevantKnowledge was also installed:
http://www.emsisoft.com/en/malware/?Adware.Win32.SC+System+Tuner+3.4.0.2
Registred at Alexa:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/main/mp3mymp3.com
It seems to me that MP3myMP3 has gone the same way as Burn4Free.
--
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Ron
> 'F. Reeware' wrote this:
>
>> (Q)
>> Record internet radio and save to mp3 or wav. Record from any sound
>> source, rip vinyl, rip cd-roms, batch rename, create playlists and
>> more.
>> (/Q)
>>
>>
>> F. Reeware
>
>
> F. Reeware,
> Do you ever check out the programs you promote on ACF???
>
> This program is reported as installing a trojan on peoples'
> systems. Did you know that?
>
> Please read JP Loken's comments and also this lot:
>
> Several comments posted on the download site about it:
>
> 1.
> "Installs Trojan rkverify.exe EVEN IF YOU DECLINE"
>
> Pros: terrible, terrible misleading software. The website has
> written in bold 100% spyware free. that should have got me
> suspicious. It installs "relevant knowledge" ad/market survey
> software that monitors your web pages. No unistall button
>
> Cons: No way to uninstall apart from brute force manual delete
> installs spyware. Check running processes and temp directories for
> rkverify.exe
> Installs spyware even in you decline
> Does NOT WORK IN VISTA. Was not able to record mic / or
> wav out in Vista.
>
> Summary: Do not bother installing. IT does not work in Vista.
> One cannot select the "source" of audio to be mic or wave out etc.
>
> 2.
> "Contains a Trojan Horse (?) called relevant Knowledge"
>
> 3.
> "No Uninstall Funktion, No Funktion at all"
>
> 4.
> "doesn't work with my sound card"
>
> 5.
> "Program doesn't work"
>
>
Not sure about the negative comments above; perhaps they were
"cherry-picked" to make a point. The older version (v 2.0, still
available) was more favorably discussed here:
http://download.cnet.com/Mp3-My-Mp3-Recorder/3640-2140_4-10396920.html?tag=uo;uo
That said, I used to use this s/w. Sometime in the last two years, they
started bundling adware that you can supposedly opt out of installing
with the rest of the program. They state same right on the website. You
could call it a trojan, but AFAICT it's a Win 32/Agent application that
gets flagged. I can't verify just what it is, because ESET won't let me
finish a download!
hth
Ron
Ron
> "JP Loken" <jp_loke...@hotmailspam.com>:
>
>> It seems to me that MP3myMP3 has gone the same way as Burn4Free.
>
> "Tested spyware free"
> http://download.cnet.com/MP3-My-MP3-Recorder/3000-2140_4-10369269.html
>
>
> Yrrah
>
Don't know how you found that d/l, but it passed ESET! I'm going to look
it over and will report back what I find.
<g>
hth
Ron
Franklin
alt.comp.freeware news:gq5g7...@aracari.127.0.0.1:
> 'F. Reeware' wrote this:
>
>>(Q)
>>Record internet radio and save to mp3 or wav. Record from
>>any sound source, rip vinyl, rip cd-roms, batch rename,
>>create playlists and more.
>>(/Q)
>>
>>http://www.mp3mymp3.xxx/[deleted].html
>>
>>F. Reeware
>
>
> F. Reeware,
> Do you ever check out the programs you promote on ACF???
>
> This program is reported as installing a trojan on peoples'
> systems. Did you know that?
>
> Please read JP Loken's comments and also this lot:
> Several comments posted on the download site about it:
>
> 1. "Installs Trojan rkverify.exe EVEN IF YOU DECLINE"
>
> Pros: terrible, terrible misleading software. The website has
> written in bold 100% spyware free. that should have got me
> suspicious. It installs "relevant knowledge" ad/market survey
> software that monitors your web pages. No unistall button
>
> Cons: No way to uninstall apart from brute force manual delete
Is that another way of saying that the file has to be deleted?
> installs spyware. Check running processes and temp directories for
> rkverify.exe. Installs spyware even in you decline
> Does NOT WORK IN VISTA. Was not able to record mic / or
> wav out in Vista.
>
> Summary: Do not bother installing. IT does not work in Vista.
> One cannot select the "source" of audio to be mic or wave out etc.
>
> 2. "Contains a Trojan Horse (?) called relevant Knowledge"
>
> 3. "No Uninstall Funktion, No Funktion at all"
>
> 4. "doesn't work with my sound card"
>
> 5. "Program doesn't work"
>
The package may or may not contain malware but your selective choice of
comments do you no credit. You left out the other four reviews at:
<http://download.cnet.com/MP3-My-MP3-Recorder/3640-2140_4-10902239-
2.html?tag=page;page>
6. Free and easy to use" (5 stars)
7. "Using it for 3-4 yrs, best software ever if works wVista" (5 stars)
8. "Records whatever you play on your speakers well." (5 stars)
9. "does what it says mostly...." (3 stars)
Average user rating: 3.5 stars out of 5.
As Ron says, there didn't use to be any malware in the package but
maybe that's changed.
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Ron
>> opened, several processes that needed internet access started.
>
>> http://spywarefiles.prevx.com/RRCFGJ44502682/RKVERIFY.EXE.html
>> RelevantKnowledge was also installed:
>> http://www.emsisoft.com/en/malware/?Adware.Win32.SC+System+Tuner+3.4.0.2
>
>
> \mp3mymp3install\{app}\audiodata1.lst
> \mp3mymp3install\{app}\Mp3MyMp3 3.0.exe
> \mp3mymp3install\{app}\Readme.txt
> \mp3mymp3install\{app}\mp3mymp3.ico
> \mp3mymp3install\{app}\asrecmms.ocx
> \mp3mymp3install\{app}\AdjMmsEng.dll
> \mp3mymp3install\{app}\lame.exe
> \mp3mymp3install\{app}\uninstall.ico
>
> Yoo don't need this:
>
> \mp3mymp3install\{tmp}\comScore.rtf
> \mp3mymp3install\{tmp}\rkverify.exe
> \mp3mymp3install\{tmp}\rkinstall.exe
>
> \mp3mymp3install\embedded\CompiledCode.bin
> \mp3mymp3install\embedded\eng.isl
> \mp3mymp3install\embedded\WizardImage.bmp
> \mp3mymp3install\embedded\WizardSmallImage.bmp> There is no 'mp3mymp3.com' in the package.
>
> - 'Mp3MyMp3 3.0.exe'.
>
> Windows 'properties':
> Adobe Projector, Copyright 1985-2008 Adobe Systems, Inc.
> ('Mp3MyMp3 2.0.exe': Macromedia Projector, Copyright 1985-2002
> Macromedia, Inc.)
>
> 'Resource Hacker' 'version info' (v. 3.0):
>
> VALUE "CompanyName", "Adobe Systems, Inc."
> VALUE "FileDescription", "Adobe Projector"
> VALUE "FileVersion", "11.0r426"
> VALUE "InternalName", "Projector"
> VALUE "LegalCopyright", "Copyright © 1985-2008 Adobe Systems, Inc."
> VALUE "LegalTrademarks", "Director® is a registered trademark and
> Shockwave(tm) is a trademark of Adobe Systems, Inc."
> VALUE "OriginalFilename", "Projector.exe"
> VALUE "ProductName", "Director 11"
> VALUE "ProductVersion", "11.0"
>
> Under 'Icon Group': "PROJCETOR"
>
> ???
>
> - asrecmms.ocx and AdjMmsEng.dll are "the ActiveX version" and the
> "Multimedia engine version" of 'Active Sound Recorder', both Copyright
> 2004-2008, MultiMedia Soft.
>
> I ran the program. 'asrecmms.ocx' was "installed", after which I had
> to restart it once. It did not try to contact the outside world. But
> the program has useless menu entries: 'Web', 'Links' (ads), 'Blog',
> 'Donate'. 'Help' is on-line help.
>
> Yrrah
>
Nice work on v 3.0.
I tried downloading both from the home page and found they were stopped
by ESET. The link to v 2.0 came through cleanly. I checked it with
Universal Extractor just to be sure and verified the files with
Malwarebytes and ESET. The only thing that was picked up on the C:\
partition of the test bed was the previously mentioned variant in FF's
cache from my earlier attempts to download.
IMO, it's a nice program; it's too bad you have to jump though hoops to
clean up the current version, but it may be worth it to those who want
to use it. While I don't agree with what the authors have done to it,
they have every right as long as you really can opt out of the adware.
just my 2 pennies
Ron
Ron
> 'Ron' wrote this:
> Either the program does install malware or it doesn't, and there's
> plenty of claims that it does.
>
> The comments I quoted were about v2.0:
> http://download.cnet.com/MP3-My-MP3-Recorder/3640-2140_4-10902239-1.html
>
> I didn't cherry pick but after reading JPL's comments, I went off
> and investigated. Obviously I found the same as he found and only
> copy/pasted comments that were relevant to make the point that it
> is claimed to install malware, even if the user opts out.
>
> People on this group rarely go near such stuff and have no
> interest in it.
>
>> That said, I used to use this s/w. Sometime in the last two years, they
>> started bundling adware that you can supposedly opt out of installing
>> with the rest of the program. They state same right on the website. You
>> could call it a trojan, but AFAICT it's a Win 32/Agent application that
>> gets flagged. I can't verify just what it is, because ESET won't let me
>> finish a download!
>
> It may not be a trojan that it installs, but a very persistent
> adware malware, and it claims to give users a choice but actually
> doesn't.
>
>
I've done some checking on the older version. See my post in the "Re:
MP3myMP3 Recorder 3.0 _Spyware?!" thread.
hth
Ron
JP Loken
<snip>
> Don't know how you found that d/l, but it passed ESET! I'm going to look
> it over and will report back what I find.
> <g>
>
> hth
> Ron
I found the d/l by following F.Reeware's link and d/l from the home page.
FYI, Ron:
The author of the program comments the bundling here:
http://www.mp3mymp3.com/bundling.html
(which F.Reeware IMHO should have notified us about when announcing the
program)
I don't trust the author in his claims that
Quote
...installation is FULLY OPTIONAL and offered only during the installation
process.
Simply click decline if you do not wish to install any 3rd party software.
Unquote
The reason is that on my computer it was installed *before* the
installation process per se started, and because of the statements here:
http://download.cnet.com/MP3-My-MP3-Recorder/3640-2140_4-10902239-1.html?tag=page;page
This seems to be a parallel to my unhappy experience with Burn4Free. That
program's author also described, falsely, a way to remove the spyware.
John Stubbings
Indeed, he just used this to try and clobber F. Reeware.
Hardly fair on the author who isn't hiding this. It's on the web site.
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JP Loken
> Yrrah wrote:
<snip>
>> Yrrah
<snip>
> Ron
Thanks to both of you for sorting it out.
My most recent comment was sent before I read yours.
Ron
> På Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:05:14 +0100, skrev Ron <rmoo...@ix.netcom.com>:
>
>> Yrrah wrote:
> <snip>
>>> Yrrah
> <snip>
>> Ron
> Thanks to both of you for sorting it out.
> My most recent comment was sent before I read yours.
>
>
bundled software that ESET flagged, but the link that Yrrah provided to
the old version 2.0 (also on Cnet) was clean. I'd like to play with the
extraction process he laid out, but I still can't d/l past my AV. <vbg>
Ron
John Stubbings
> Why do so few people bother to check the facts?
Well done Yrrah. I guessed as much. Not fair on the author this crap
really.
Bear Bottoms
news:sqeds4p25bmbs7lv0...@net.com:
> Addendum
>
> http://www.mp3mymp3.com/faq.htm
>
> Getting Started
> Selecting a device under Vista
> XP Mixer
> VIsta Mixer
> Laptop loudness
> Just doesn't work
> 3rd Party bundling
>
> Too difficult for some, I guess.
>
> Yrrah
>
Yeah, pity everyone can't be as intellectual as you are. What a
condescending creep you are.
--
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Freeware website: http://bearware.info
Craig
> Ron<rmoo...@ix.netcom.com>:
>
>> I've done some checking on the older version. See my post in the "Re:
>> MP3myMP3 Recorder 3.0 _Spyware?!" thread.
>
> message:
>
> "In order to provide this free download, RelevantKnowledge software,
> provided by TMRG, Inc., a comScore, Inc. company, is included in this
> download. (...)
> () Accept - () Decline"
>
> I declined and could continue with the installation. The program, the
> installer or another file in the package did NOT try to phone home and
> 'rkverify.exe' (or 'rkinstall.exe') was NOT installed on my HD.
Thanks for following through with this, Harry. And, don't be too hard
on us... Sometimes we make mistakes. Hell knows I have. Or, as
politicos might put it, "Mistakes were made..."
best,
-Craig
John Stubbings
> 'F. Reeware' wrote this:
>
>>Bear Bottoms <bearbo...@gmai.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, pity everyone can't be as intellectual as you are. What a
>>> condescending creep you are.
>>
>>Why, Mr Bottoms? Because he did what you never do, that is read the
>>documentation and tried the program, and actually did some good
>>freeware research?
>
> And did YOU read the documentation about this program before you
> posted about it, F. Reeware????????????????????????????????????
>
> NO. FFS, let's have a little less rank dishonesty from you.
*flustered* hummyhomo, serves you *right*. Bang out of order on this one
you were???????????????????????????????????????????
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ari®
> Yrrah <Yrrah-usene...@mailbox-no23.ca> wrote in
> news:sqeds4p25bmbs7lv0...@net.com:
>
>> Addendum
>>
>> http://www.mp3mymp3.com/faq.htm
>>
>> Getting Started
>> Selecting a device under Vista
>> XP Mixer
>> VIsta Mixer
>> Laptop loudness
>> Just doesn't work
>> 3rd Party bundling
>>
>> Too difficult for some, I guess.
>>
>> Yrrah
>>
> Yeah, pity everyone can't be as intellectual as you are. What a
> condescending creep you are.
> For I am Bear Bottoms-Freeware Researcher Extraordinaire
lol
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Me.Here
> 'F. Reeware' wrote this:
>
>> Record internet radio and save to mp3 or wav. Record from any sound
>> source, rip vinyl, rip cd-roms, batch rename, create playlists and
>> more.
>> (/Q)
>>
>> http://www.mp3mymp3.xxx/[deleted].html
>>
>> F. Reeware
>
>
> F. Reeware,
> Do you ever check out the programs you promote on ACF???
>
> This program is reported as installing a trojan on peoples'
> systems. Did you know that?
Glad I have the wanker kill-filed and I didn't see his crap. Doesn't
surprise me he has stooped to this level (deliberately promoting
malware) - it was only a matter of time.
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John Stubbings
> On 23/03/2009 12:59 AM, hummingbird wrote:
>> 'F. Reeware' wrote this:
>>
>>> (Q)
>>> Record internet radio and save to mp3 or wav. Record from any sound
>>> source, rip vinyl, rip cd-roms, batch rename, create playlists and
>>> more.
>>> (/Q)
>>>
>>> http://www.mp3mymp3.xxx/[deleted].html
>>>
>>> F. Reeware
>>
>>
>> F. Reeware,
>> Do you ever check out the programs you promote on ACF???
>>
>> This program is reported as installing a trojan on peoples'
>> systems. Did you know that?
>
>
> Glad I have the wanker kill-filed and I didn't see his crap. Doesn't
> surprise me he has stooped to this level (deliberately promoting
> malware) - it was only a matter of time.
Do keep up me.whore. If you didn't have 95% of acf killfiled you might have
realised hummyhomo had his underpants on waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to tight.
Feel free to die real soon. Toodles
John Stubbings
> 'Me.Here' wrote this:
>
> >On 23/03/2009 12:59 AM, hummingbird wrote:
> >> 'F. Reeware' wrote this:
> >>
> >>> (Q)
> >>> Record internet radio and save to mp3 or wav. Record from any sound
> >>> source, rip vinyl, rip cd-roms, batch rename, create playlists and
> >>> more.
> >>> (/Q)
> >>>
> >>> http://www.mp3mymp3.xxx/[deleted].html
> >>>
> >>> F. Reeware
> >>
> >>
> >> F. Reeware,
> >> Do you ever check out the programs you promote on ACF???
> >>
> >> This program is reported as installing a trojan on peoples'
> >> systems. Did you know that?
> >
> >
> >Glad I have the wanker kill-filed and I didn't see his crap. Doesn't
> >surprise me he has stooped to this level (deliberately promoting
> >malware) - it was only a matter of time.
>
> about s/w that he has never used or even checked out.
This is absolutely disgraceful behavior. You should apologise to the author
and put the record straight.
John Stubbings
> 'John Stubbings' wrote this:
>
> [snipped for sanity]
x-no-archive: yes
coward please FOAD acf was so nice without you
Franklin
alt.comp.freeware news:gq6jpe...@aracari.127.0.0.1:
> 'F. Reeware' wrote this:
>
>>Bear Bottoms <bearbo...@gmai.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, pity everyone can't be as intellectual as you are. What a
>>> condescending creep you are.
>>
>>Why, Mr Bottoms? Because he did what you never do, that is read the
>>documentation and tried the program, and actually did some good
>>freeware research?
>
> And did YOU read the documentation about this program before you
> posted about it, F. Reeware????????????????????????????????????
>
> NO. FFS, let's have a little less rank dishonesty from you.
>
Chris (Hummingbird), I think your own amazingly skewed selection of
user comments shows the extent of your own bias and dishonesty.
See my previous post about this:
<news:Xns9BD6AD8...@127.0.0.1> OR
<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.freeware/msg/00eff450ac5ac194>
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JP Loken
<F.Reewa...@hotmail.com>:
> "JP Loken" <jp_loke...@hotmailspam.com> wrote:
>
>> (which F.Reeware IMHO should have notified us about when announcing the
>> program)
>
> Mr Loken, I try to keep my postings short. I am sorry to have caused
> some inconvenience, but you do have your own responsibility.
I agree.
But you don't have to write "sorry". I was not annoyed. I just viewed it
as a very interesting case. :-)
> I assume
> that whoever is really interested in a program will look for and read
> the available information. I always look for faqs and other
> documentation before I download a program. It is not that difficult to
> click on Sitemap, is it?
I did look.
What concerned me was that some software was installed immediately
*before* I got any choice to decide whether to install it or not. Quote
from the author: ...installation is fully optional and offered only during
the installation process.Unquote
I then investigated more thoroughly on the internet and found the warnings
on Cnet.
With my experience with similar software (Burn4Free), I wanted to alert
the readers of acf *immediately* that they should take care.
My intention was investigative in nature, hence my question mark in the
headline.
Ideally I still think postings should cover things like these.
However, I am very sorry for the unintended malicious form it took. If
there's no tolerance for disagreements and mistakes, there will be no
progress.
Ari®
>> is just a common troll who occasionally posts
>> about s/w that he has never used or even checked out.
Criticism of Bear Butthole?
Ari®
> 'Me.Here' wrote this:
>
>>On 23/03/2009 12:59 AM, hummingbird wrote:
>>> 'F. Reeware' wrote this:
>>>
>>>> (Q)
>>>> Record internet radio and save to mp3 or wav. Record from any sound
>>>> source, rip vinyl, rip cd-roms, batch rename, create playlists and
>>>> more.
>>>> (/Q)
>>>>
>>>> http://www.mp3mymp3.xxx/[deleted].html
>>>>
>>>> F. Reeware
>>>
>>>
>>> F. Reeware,
>>> Do you ever check out the programs you promote on ACF???
>>>
>>> This program is reported as installing a trojan on peoples'
>>> systems. Did you know that?
>>
>>
>>Glad I have the wanker kill-filed and I didn't see his crap. Doesn't
>>surprise me he has stooped to this level (deliberately promoting
>>malware) - it was only a matter of time.
>
> Yep, F. Reeware is just a common troll who occasionally posts
> about s/w that he has never used or even checked out.
Yet another example of a forged post by Frank J. Camper (alias
"Ari") using the NNTP Server frell.theremailer.net.
ARACari, Ph.D.
> And did YOU read the documentation about this program before you
> posted about it, F. Reeware????????????????????????????????????
>
> NO. FFS, let's have a little less rank dishonesty from you.
Hummy, why hast whilst thou forsaken me? I am left all alonesome, BB no
posty, Corliss hung himself when he discovered .Net on his machine,
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