Re: Firefox 63 ?

[Mr. Man-wai Chang]

On 10/23/2018 8:09 PM, Yrrah wrote:
> Anyone using Firefox 63?
>
> "Firefox users who open about:preferences#general will notice that the
> option to never check for updates was removed.
> The only two options as of Firefox 63.0 are to 'automatically install
> updates' or 'check for updates but let you choose to install them'."

Bad idea for experienced users....

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[Shadow]

On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 14:09:17 +0200, Yrrah <Yrra...@acf.invalid>

wrote:

>Anyone using Firefox 63?
>
>"Firefox users who open about:preferences#general will notice that the
>option to never check for updates was removed.
>The only two options as of Firefox 63.0 are to 'automatically install
>updates' or 'check for updates but let you choose to install them'."
>

>"There’s so much bloatware in this version of Fx. On top of that
>whatever you do in settings, about:config strings related to the
>activity-stream, mainly telemetry, pocket, and other adware features
>remain enabled."
>
>Quotes from:
>https://www.ghacks.net/2018/10/23/firefox-63-0-release-information/
>(main article and comments section)

"Just say NO!!!"
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

[Bill Bradshaw]

Yrrah wrote:
> Anyone using Firefox 63?
>
> "Firefox users who open about:preferences#general will notice that the
> option to never check for updates was removed.
> The only two options as of Firefox 63.0 are to 'automatically install
> updates' or 'check for updates but let you choose to install them'."
>
> "There's so much bloatware in this version of Fx. On top of that
> whatever you do in settings, about:config strings related to the
> activity-stream, mainly telemetry, pocket, and other adware features
> remain enabled."
>
> Quotes from:
> https://www.ghacks.net/2018/10/23/firefox-63-0-release-information/
> (main article and comments section)
>
>

> Yrrah

This comment was in another group:

* The option to Never check for updates was removed from
about:preferences. You can use the DisableAppUpdate enterprise policy as
a substitute.
--
<Bill>

Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska

[John Corliss]

Yrrah wrote:
> Anyone using Firefox 63?
>
> "Firefox users who open about:preferences#general will notice that the
> option to never check for updates was removed.
> The only two options as of Firefox 63.0 are to 'automatically install
> updates' or 'check for updates but let you choose to install them'."
>
> "There’s so much bloatware in this version of Fx. On top of that
> whatever you do in settings, about:config strings related to the
> activity-stream, mainly telemetry, pocket, and other adware features
> remain enabled."
>
> Quotes from:
> https://www.ghacks.net/2018/10/23/firefox-63-0-release-information/
> (main article and comments section)

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/63.0/releasenotes/

Scroll down to where it says "Changed". It says:

"The option to Never check for updates was removed from
about:preferences. You can use the DisableAppUpdate enterprise policy as
a substitute."

Click on "DisableAppUpdate" and you go to:

https://github.com/mozilla/policy-templates/blob/master/README.md

On that page, it shows you how to create a file called policies.json as
follows:
__________________________________________________________________________
Policies can either be specified using the Group Policy templates or by
creating a file called policies.json. On Windows, create a directory
called distribution where the EXE is located and place the file there.
On Mac, the file goes into Firefox.app/Contents/Resources/distribution.
On Linux, the file goes into firefox/distribution, where firefox is the
installation directory for firefox, which varies by distribution.

The content of the JSON file should look like this:

{
"policies": {
...POLICIES...
}
}

Policies are documented below.

Note: though comments are used in this readme file for documentation,
comments are not valid in actual JSON files. Remove all comments before
attempting to deploy.

Some of the policies were originally only available on the ESR for
security reasons. As of Firefox 62, these policies are available outside
of the ESR, but only via JSON file or a Local Machine-based Group
Policy. User-based Group Policies are not allowed to set values for
these policies. The descriptions below mark such policies as "Machine only".
__________________________________________________________________________

The policy in question, "DisableAppUpdate", is implemented in that file
as follows:
__________________________________________________________________________

DisableAppUpdate (Machine only)

This policy turns off application updates.

{
"policies": {
"DisableAppUpdate": true
}
}
__________________________________________________________________________

By making it difficult to turn off automatic updating in Firefox,
Mozilla is using social engineering ALA Google and Microsoft to push end
users into ultimately accepting forced updates. The impetus for this
change is debatable, but it certainly is not for the official excuse
given by Mozilla that the "Never check for updates" setting was:

"easy to enable and forget about."

Eventually, and mark my words, Mozilla will please its Google and NSA
overlords by disabling that Enterprise policy, if not for everybody then
at least for non-Enterprise users. They'll most likely do this by
creating separate versions of Firefox, one for businesses and another
for regular end users. But until they do, this webextension:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/enterprise-policy-generator/

might be used to make setting the policy more easy for some people.

In the mean time and until Mozilla makes it impossible to block forced
updates, I'm actually using Firefox Quantum on my W7 Dell in order to
keep up with how it changes. Yes, I fought my way through the extension
battle, gave up tons of features I liked that legacy extensions made
possible and still resent the loss of Tabmix Plus. However life,
unfortunately, goes on.

I continue to keep my private data air-gapped on an XP computer, see
this as a way to eventually continue computing until all my ancient XP
computers fail mechanically.

If I want to continue using computers, I'm eventually going to have to
drink the Kool-Aid and get a system with W10 on it. IOW, I'll have to
find another way than a barge-pole to touch it. Again, I'll keep my data
on the old systems.

Moi disgustimento.

Linus Torvalds is back from his self-imposed exile and Linux 4.19 has
been released:

https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3064959/as-linux-419-is-released-a-new-improved-linus-torvalds-returns

I remain foolishly hopeful that Linux may eventually become a viable
alternative to MS Windows.

Perhaps there's already an alternative available that few people know
about. Maybe a hacked version of Windows itself which is being
distributed via the dark web? Who knows? 80)>

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[Jenny Telia]

On 24/10/2018 10:40, John Corliss wrote:

:-O .

It's a miracle! Corliss [for it is He] has been resurrected by his
hatred of all things restrictive.

Microsoft be praised!

[pez]

| On 24-Oct-18 10:40, John Corliss wrote:
-
Welcome back, John
-

[Shadow]

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 01:40:45 -0700, John Corliss <r9j...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Welcome back

><cut stuff about firefox spyware>

>I continue to keep my private data air-gapped on an XP computer, see
>this as a way to eventually continue computing until all my ancient XP
>computers fail mechanically.

Well, mine ain't air-gapped, but the NSA sent me a letter
asking me to let them in, because their techs couldn't crack it. I
said no.

>
>If I want to continue using computers, I'm eventually going to have to
>drink the Kool-Aid and get a system with W10 on it. IOW, I'll have to
>find another way than a barge-pole to touch it.

ASUS still makes modern XP compatible MBs. Just buy a new one.
It'll probably last another decade. It's what I did. You get free
Chinese and Americam microSPYchips with the board, but they usually
sabotage each other.

>
>Linus Torvalds is back from his self-imposed exile and Linux 4.19 has
>been released:
>
>https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3064959/as-linux-419-is-released-a-new-improved-linus-torvalds-returns
>
>I remain foolishly hopeful that Linux may eventually become a viable
>alternative to MS Windows.

New Linux kernels are usually just more hardware recognition
(for new stuff I don't have) and occasional security fixes (for
services I don't run). Don't let them bother you. Synaptic or apt-get
will update anything essential.

[Flasherly]

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 11:40:39 -0200, Shadow <S...@dow.br> wrote:

>
> ASUS still makes modern XP compatible MBs. Just buy a new one.
>It'll probably last another decade. It's what I did. You get free
>Chinese and Americam microSPYchips with the board, but they usually
>sabotage each other.

Some, I'll hazard more, installation CDs won't install without a
DotNet or whatever qualifies them for SP3.

Others, withstanding, may be easy to self-install from the same CD
directories and OS provisions, the SP3 qualifier then being irrelevant
candy-wrapper to chipset driver support, at whatever service pack
level, except for USB3 as a standard for newer MBs (and BIOS allowance
to turn it off). 'Others and easier' of course covers some ground:
How a motherboard is engineered and implemented varies between brands.

Gigabyte is another that qualifies the general XP inclusion ... SP3
being evidently a programming framework for Gigabyte's convenience. A
shift of optimal focus from the industry is unavoidable now, at a
minimum, for favoring Windows 7. Below, over time, there may be
issues, qualifiers for further considerations. Or likely there will
be.

Asus is jacked and overpriced in my estimation. ARock, their budget
subsidiary boards, I haven't tried. I'd as soon simply a Gigabyte,
and also big on their image as tough for longevity. ASUS does though
make the very best of supplementary soundboards. They advertise for
emphasis on the home audio-enthusiast, on a realistic budget, as
unique supportive role only Asus brings to the table. I'll agree: Six
chanels output: two front and rear duplicate analog, and a red-laser
carrier SPDIF at defineable sampling rates.

SoundBlaster is a software salad tossed into a carnival freakshow for
the price of a circus ticket.

[Shadow]

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:48:49 -0400, Flasherly <Flas...@live.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 11:40:39 -0200, Shadow <S...@dow.br> wrote:
>
>>
>> ASUS still makes modern XP compatible MBs. Just buy a new one.
>>It'll probably last another decade. It's what I did. You get free
>>Chinese and Americam microSPYchips with the board, but they usually
>>sabotage each other.
>
>Some, I'll hazard more, installation CDs won't install without a
>DotNet or whatever qualifies them for SP3.

I just slipstreamed SP3 into SP2 (Pro) and installed with no
problems at all..... nLite is your friend.
And then updated with an old WSUS I'd archived on a DVD a few
months before M$ pulled support.
All my ASUS boards still work. I have 2 from the late 90's. No
idea if quality has suffered over the decades. I'll tell you in 20
years time.
[]'s

>
>Others, withstanding, may be easy to self-install from the same CD
>directories and OS provisions, the SP3 qualifier then being irrelevant
>candy-wrapper to chipset driver support, at whatever service pack
>level, except for USB3 as a standard for newer MBs (and BIOS allowance
>to turn it off). 'Others and easier' of course covers some ground:
>How a motherboard is engineered and implemented varies between brands.
>
>Gigabyte is another that qualifies the general XP inclusion ... SP3
>being evidently a programming framework for Gigabyte's convenience. A
>shift of optimal focus from the industry is unavoidable now, at a
>minimum, for favoring Windows 7. Below, over time, there may be
>issues, qualifiers for further considerations. Or likely there will
>be.
>
>Asus is jacked and overpriced in my estimation. ARock, their budget
>subsidiary boards, I haven't tried. I'd as soon simply a Gigabyte,
>and also big on their image as tough for longevity. ASUS does though
>make the very best of supplementary soundboards. They advertise for
>emphasis on the home audio-enthusiast, on a realistic budget, as
>unique supportive role only Asus brings to the table. I'll agree: Six
>chanels output: two front and rear duplicate analog, and a red-laser
>carrier SPDIF at defineable sampling rates.
>
>SoundBlaster is a software salad tossed into a carnival freakshow for
>the price of a circus ticket.

[Flasherly]

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 16:23:46 -0200, Shadow <S...@dow.br> wrote:

>I just slipstreamed SP3 into SP2 (Pro) and installed with no
>problems at all..... nLite is your friend.
> And then updated with an old WSUS I'd archived on a DVD a few
>months before M$ pulled support.
> All my ASUS boards still work. I have 2 from the late 90's. No
>idea if quality has suffered over the decades. I'll tell you in 20
>years time.

Good stuff. RT Se7en Lite does the reverse for Windows 7. A
contributor to Tom's Hardware defines exclusions to reduce that 20
into 3G Windows 7 install.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/faq/id-2853368/reduce-windows-size.html

My last Asus boards -
K8N-E+_using AMD 754 3000
P4V8X-MX micro 478 (Intel socket)

My first Gigabyte boards -
G41MT-S2PT F2 (Intel platform)
M61PME-S2 (AMD platform)

Both Gigabytes may be close enough for your ASUS boards: the AMD
works, but the Intel was blown up when lightning hit the pole behind
me, came through destroying the modem to annihilate my motherboard, I
suspect. Happen a three, four week ago but seems already, history.

Both former Gigabytes hence replaced by newer Gigabytes in the last of
the AMD3+ sockets before the latest AMD4 Ryzen, M.2 NAND storage and
DDR4 considerations. AMD4, ostensibly, along with, conclusively,
Intel's latest CPUs, Microsoft has called for immanent domain: newer
CPU features, however inclusive to the whole bloody platform -- Must
And Will Be Run on Windows 10 and Windows 10 Only.

In case you cannot spell the *NIX platform any the more plainly . . .

Not even pleasingly, then spell late-Latin "Byzantium Quagmire"
simultaneously with each of the 60,000 patented copyrights Microsoft
exercises over a state of computers now-a-day.

[Shadow]

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 19:35:26 -0400, Flasherly <Flas...@live.com>
wrote:

Mine is an AMD3+ with a FX-8300
More than enough for XP. And Devuan 2.

What really pissed me off is I had to use third party drivers,
because ASUS insists you login with Facebook or Google+ to download
anything, even the manual.. So I downloaded everything from Putinland.
PS This has drifted OT.
[]'s

[Flasherly]

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 23:45:31 -0200, Shadow <S...@dow.br> wrote:

Mine is an AMD3+ with a FX-8300. More than enough for XP.

-
I skipped the Gigabyte install on one, set my drivers up manually, and
used the install on another instance. I've never before heard such
nonsense - having to use Facebook for hardware resources. Yes, you're
right this conversation is becoming too weird: You just told me that
we're both running the exact same processor.

[John Corliss]

Strange, I didn't have any such problem getting documentation or driver
downloads. Maybe it's something unique to living in Brazil. If you can,
try going to the https://www.asus.com/us/ website.

[Shadow]

On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 04:09:46 -0700, John Corliss <r9j...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>> What really pissed me off is I had to use third party drivers,
>> because ASUS insists you login with Facebook or Google+ to download
>> anything, even the manual.. So I downloaded everything from Putinland.
>> PS This has drifted OT.
>> []'s
>>
>
>Strange, I didn't have any such problem getting documentation or driver
>downloads. Maybe it's something unique to living in Brazil. If you can,
>try going to the https://www.asus.com/us/ website.

Does not work.
Even examining the source code (an old trick that used to
work) I can't get to the drivers, they are Google-encrypted.
If you can see anything, you have been ID'd
[]'s

FAQ
How to search the driver for ASUS product?

Please refer to the below steps to update the driver

1. LOG IN to ASUS official support site
2.After you enter the product page , click [Support ].
3. Click [Driver & Tools] , choose your OS edition.
4. Search and download the driver you need at this page (suggested to
download the latest edition).

Was this information helpful?

YES[] NO[X]

PS Item 1 not necessary if already logged into Facebook or Google+

[Flasherly]

On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 04:00:33 -0400, Flasherly <Flas...@live.com>

wrote:

>Mine is an AMD3+ with a FX-8300.

I'd assumed the E series, which I have. BIOS elective to shave off a
GHz from the non-E for a similar Hyper-Drive form of regulation, at
4GHz, of "Cool & Quiet" stuff in a 95-watt E designee. Although both
should be presumably and effectively multiplier unlocked, and the E,
from reviews, will overclock like a demon from hell.

ASUS non-restrictive only BIOS D/L ...

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M5A78LM_LEUSB3/HelpDesk_CPU/

FX-8320(FD8320FRW8KHK,3.5GHz,8C,125W,rev.C0,AM3+) ALL 0202GO
FX-8320E (FD832EWMW8KHK, 3.2GHz, 8C, 95W,rev.C0,AM3+) ALL 0202GO

Any retail boxed - of course it bloody well need have a driver CD.
Unless ASUS wants everyone buying one to return it to their
distributors.
https://www.amazon.com/M5A78L-M-Plus-USB3-MicroATX-Motherboard/dp/B01FN9QT34/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1540487233&sr=1-1&keywords=asus+am3%2B&refinements=p_89%3AAsus

I don't known this particular AM3+ includes XP driver support.

[Mr. Man-wai Chang]

On 10/23/2018 8:09 PM, Yrrah wrote:
> Anyone using Firefox 63?
>

I updated anyway!

[Shadow]

On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 13:19:42 -0400, Flasherly <Flas...@live.com>
wrote:

I can get the BIOS, which is from December 2016, same as the one
shipped on my MB, which was manufactured less than a year ago. Also
the manual.

<https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM3+/M5A78L-M_PLUS_USB3/M5A78L-M-PLUS-USB3-ASUS-0502.zip>
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M5A78L-M-PLUS-USB3/HelpDesk_Manual/

But the driver page just gives me a "login with Facekook" etc message

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M5A78L-M-PLUS-USB3/HelpDesk_Download/

No links to drivers, not even in source of the webpage. I enabled
javascript for www.asus.com, and I had to agree to cookies but no dice
..... for practical purposes ASUS offers no driver support at all.

Remember when they had a FTP server you could just navigate to your MB
model and download anything ?

[Flasherly]

On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 14:51:02 -0200, Shadow <S...@dow.br> wrote:

>
>I can get the BIOS, which is from December 2016, same as the one
>shipped on my MB, which was manufactured less than a year ago. Also
>the manual.
>
><https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM3+/M5A78L-M_PLUS_USB3/M5A78L-M-PLUS-USB3-ASUS-0502.zip>
>https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M5A78L-M-PLUS-USB3/HelpDesk_Manual/
>
>But the driver page just gives me a "login with Facekook" etc message
>
>https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M5A78L-M-PLUS-USB3/HelpDesk_Download/
>
>No links to drivers, not even in source of the webpage. I enabled
>javascript for www.asus.com, and I had to agree to cookies but no dice
>..... for practical purposes ASUS offers no driver support at all.
>
>Remember when they had a FTP server you could just navigate to your MB
>model and download anything ?
> []'s
>--

I came out from behind TOR when I posted prior, just a minute ago. And
I -downloaded- the BIOS to check to be sure. (Old Opera). Of course
ASUS does post for acknowledgement of cookies/privacy policy. But I
most definitely -did not- get the same invitation, as did you, to join
ASUS, along with Mickey Mouse, at a party Facebook is hosting.

Right. Chipset drivers, some AMD, performance and cool-&-quiet stuff,
whatever else default MBs shoebox into their installs, is not included
for direct D/L links, not at least with ASUS, so far as I can see.

I used to D/L that stuff directly from Taiwan - when a type
www.motherboard.tw could tend to be more abreast;- that and sometimes
video drivers chipsets may have been better deferred to the chipset
manufacturers, also directly. Used to, though, which I couldn't
presume is the case with 10 or more years from my last ASUS, or what
you're running into today. BTW - lucky again: I quickly pulled the
ASUS site, flipped down the page for an older $80US MB, (not, as
expected, newer ASUS $300US MBs) and pulled your particular MB, as it
were, first click of the draw. The Amazon link, Amazon won't even sell
it (rather one used "Amazon" RMA unit) -- Retail Box units w/ a CD
install are all Amazon affiliates. Better than not w/out Amazon,
depending, nor necessarily without potential issues for a RMA
counter-challenge and/or "restocking" fees. And, as always, a credit
card for another layer of "consumer protectionism" for filing yet
another claimant dispute.

Yes, for 'practical purposes ASUS offers no driver support'. Except
that it sounds too good to be true. I'd be tempted, personally to call
them, to explain that I've an order for 5000 MB units I need
immediately for placement in corporate facilities. Kindly, would they
please explain to my problem with understanding what's the goddamn
hold-up, or transfer me to the department responsible for implementing
driver support. Do you have the sound chipset drivers installed to
plug in a microphone and do just that? Make sure, if it's there, to
turn on echo cancellation.

I used to know someone who worked at ASUS. He was really pissed at
what he considered for age-discrimination, ASUS practiced with its
employees. Then again, saw another study where the average, maybe 50%
of present Amazon [US] employees draw some sort of governmental
disability or supplementary economic assistance.

[Flasherly]

On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 14:41:01 -0400, Flasherly <Flas...@live.com>
wrote:

Do you have the sound chipset drivers installed to plug in a
microphone and do just that?

. . .

Might work. In some countries I've lived, "Black Market" districts
for circumventing import/export fees, in order to make such a call,
that might involve communicating with a government military officer,
running good, or his CIA affiliates.

[Shadow]

On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 14:58:12 -0400, Flasherly <Flas...@live.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 14:41:01 -0400, Flasherly <Flas...@live.com>
>wrote:
>
>Do you have the sound chipset drivers installed to plug in a
>microphone and do just that?

My microphone is disabled (through software). I used to snip
the wires in my laptops. And Zuckerberg the cams.

All the hardware was recognized and updated with SRI-Origin

https://www.snappy-driver-installer.org/

Free, open-source and offline. It's a hefty ~15GB download,
though. Use the torrent. Lots of seeders.

https://snappy-driver-installer.org/downloads/SDIO_Update.torrent

You can pick and choose drivers(older, newer, M$ signed etc).
When everything is absolutely stable I do a driver backup with Double
Driver and archive it. About 30MB in 7-Zip format.

[Flasherly]

On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 16:36:02 -0200, Shadow <S...@dow.br> wrote:


> My microphone is disabled (through software). I used to snip
>the wires in my laptops. And Zuckerberg the cams.

I use ASUS specialty hardware better than what gets mounted on
motherboards, along ASUS XONAR drivers.

> All the hardware was recognized and updated with SRI-Origin
> https://www.snappy-driver-installer.org/

Most excellent. I invariably operate under the suspicion that my TOR
connection is compromised and I'm being redirected into governmental
post-graduate facilities funded at Ann Arbor university.

>
> Free, open-source and offline. It's a hefty ~15GB download,
>though. Use the torrent. Lots of seeders.
> https://snappy-driver-installer.org/downloads/SDIO_Update.torrent

And no less a sponsorship from a community of technicians echoing out
of SourceForge Net.

> You can pick and choose drivers(older, newer, M$ signed etc).
>When everything is absolutely stable I do a driver backup with Double
>Driver and archive it. About 30MB in 7-Zip format.

Appears you've got an handle on the issue, everything needed except
someone to hold your hand and run it all for you, from the initial
MSFT ini file pointing to an automated CD file ASUS provides. I also
skipped all that, because I could on my last Gigabyte install,
although results can vary, at times significantly, between a hardware
manufacturer setup routine and a MSFT detection methodology.

[John Corliss]

Very strange. I don't have any such problem, can easily download any of
the drivers without being logged in to Google or Facebook.

That you have to do so is just frankly bizarre. Maybe you should contact
the company and ask why this is so. OTOH, you seem to have gotten around
the problem.

> No links to drivers, not even in source of the webpage. I enabled
> javascript for www.asus.com, and I had to agree to cookies but no dice
> ..... for practical purposes ASUS offers no driver support at all.
>
> Remember when they had a FTP server you could just navigate to your MB
> model and download anything ?

Well, I've never owned anything from ASUS AFAICR.

[Shadow]

On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 16:52:05 +0200, Yrrah <Yrra...@acf.invalid>
wrote:

>Shadow <S...@dow.br>:

>
>> What really pissed me off is I had to use third party drivers,
>> because ASUS insists you login with Facebook or Google+ to download
>> anything, even the manual..

OK, I was wrong, but you didn't read my disclaimer. I was able
to download the manual by going to the US site (I was redirected to
the Brazilian site, so used a US proxy). Also the BIOS. Thanks to
Flasherly's rather enigmatic tip.
>
>Really? I've downloaded BIOS updates and manuals (years ago and last
>month) from various ASUS websites (USA, UK, and never had to log in.
>
>For instance:
>https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/PRIME-B350-PLUS/HelpDesk_BIOS/
>https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/PRIME-B350-PLUS/HelpDesk_Manual/

.....

As I said, manuals and BIOS are "free" downloads.
Now try the drivers. No way, even with a proxy.

[s|b]

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 01:40:45 -0700, John Corliss wrote:

| From: John Corliss
| Newsgroups: alt.comp.freeware
| Subject: The end.
| Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 03:50:12 -0800
| Message-ID: <p3crpp$i56$1...@dont-email.me>
|
| Well, it's finally come. The end of my participation in this newsgroup.

Such a drama queen... ;-)

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