badgolferman--will finally learn how to hit his balls and understand
what 'chronological order' means.
elaich--will have a terrible accident one day when demonstrating
the latest model of environmental vacuum cleaner to a customer.
He will get sucked up the pipe and shredded, and that'll be the
last anybody sees of him.
Franklin--his well known personality disorder will continue in 2008
and will finally be diagnosed as the Climorphic condition of
Tourette's Syndrome: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinomorphism .
It will be dealt with in the second or third quarter when his family
and friends become so fed up with his senseless babbling, incessant
lies, obsession with perverted sex and identity problems, they will
collect the money required for him to have a full frontal lobotomy:
>http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=full+frontal+lobotomy
Afterwards, Franklin will never be the same again and will be given
a brand new battery-operated random rubbish generator to play with.
Gordon Darling--will eventually reveal himself to be the adopted,
mentally challenged son of the British Prime Minister Gordon Brown
and his political lover Alistair Darling, British Finance Minister.
ms--will finally get one good nights sleep.
Lord Possum--will end up in someone's cooking pot.
Krazee Brenda--will reconcile with her estranged hubby and will
announce reunitedware.
Kat Mandu--will get involved in a horrendous argument with himself
over something or other and disappear through the roof in a shower
of sparks. Next seen in Kathmandu, Nepal behind a cloud of strange
smelling smoke.
Katman/Straight Talk--in accordance with the old maxim:
"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident"
their views on PFWs will eventually be accepted, but those who
have ridiculed and killfiled them for months will never apologise
because that's not the American way.
»Q«--will get involved in such complicated games of word play,
that his keyboard will seize up.
Yrrah--will stop being nasty and eventually say something nice.
Dan Goodman--will continue to post endless one-worders "Thanks"
followed by a seven line signature. John Corliss will eventually get
so foamed up by it that he will attack Dan with crude abuse.
Dan will then quietly disappear off a.c.f. like so many others have
before him over the years after being attacked by John Corliss.
Bear Bottoms--will get access to a US Navy Apache attack helicoptor
and wreak havoc on the cult who insult him and undermine the good
work he does on behalf of the freeware community.
Ron May--will continue to suck up to John Corliss and churn out the
most fantastic conspiracy theories which have no basis in fact. He
will eventually disappear up his own ass. R.I.P.
hummingbird--will get piss*d off with Franklin, Ron May and
John Corliss falsely accusing him of being the sporger (and just
about anybody else who posts to a.c.f. anonymously), that he will
decide to install Hipcrime/NewsMaestro to get his own back. a.c.f.
will then frequently disappear under a tsunami of sporge, the like
of which has never been seen, and even smartypants Ron May won't
be able to cope with it, if he hasn't disappeared up his own ass by
then.
iNcReDuLoUs--will finally post something, anything that has to do
with FREEWARE. It will only have taken him seven years to achieve
this milestone.
clueless Lew/Slash--will continue to snipe and make derogatory
comments about Christians, describing them as "Jews who have
gone bad" but will wonder why anti-semitism is on the rise across
the world. As a socialist Democrat, he will continue to delude
himself by asserting that Hitler was a Republican, not a socialist.
Later in the year, his grandfather will urge him to marry a nice
jewish girl, so he will quietly propose to Susan Bugher. If it comes
off, Franklin will be bridesmaid and John Corliss the party clown.
Susan Bugher--will continue to strut her stuff around a.c.f. posting
the occasional "do you love me" threads, but will finally cave in to
commonsense and remove the old pricelessware website URL from
her signature which contains the risk of trojan infection by users.
A name change to High Priestess is indicated for about quarter two.
Meanwhile, she will continue to make personal attacks on others
while posting threads asking others to "be nice to each other".
John Corliss--will be attacked by his pussy rotweiller and will need
repair surgery to his throat and face. The dog won't attack his
balls because he hasn't got any. Later, he will be diagnosed as
suffering from Coprolalia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprolalia
and put on strong medication which will cause him much confusion.
He will finally admit to being what many people have always known:
a Usenet troll and self-appointed fascist netcop who doesn't give
a fcuk what anybody thinks of him. He will buy a new baseball bat
to reduce to pulp, those who disagree with him.
He will begin using his new signature MkII in January or February:
--
John Corliss BullShit 2008. I killfile trolls like Andy Mabbett,
Franklin, Hummingbird, Kayman, coco and proteanthread. Thus, I
never see their messages. Of course I am the biggest troll of all on
ACF but I don't killfile myself because I like to read my own posts
because I am the Leader of the Gang. Some friends call me Gary.
When I say it is nagware, IT IS NAGWARE. I will attack anybody
who disagrees with me and reduce them to pulp, threatening them
with my baseball bat if necessary. That usually works.
I rule this news group by fear, intimidation, abuse and threats.
I like to post long troll threads to start flame wars. It gives me a
great feeling of power. I also run a dirty tricks department which
has served me well for 8 years to intimidate and threaten anybody
who has the balls to disagree with me. Beware of your private e-mail
address because I send them to spammers if you disagree with me.
Because of Googlespam, I use NFilter to block all Google Groups
posts from being displayed in my news reader. I also use it to block
all cross-posted messages and all other messages from all other
sources. I use NFilter to ensure the only messages I see displayed
in my news reader are those from myself and my fans like Ron May
and Franklin and a few tame trolls and troublemakers.
No ad, cd, commercial, cripple, demo, dotnet, nag, share, spy,
time-limited, underware, trial or web wares OR warez for me, please.
"We need another webmaster for the Pricelessware website. Susan
Bugher doesn't adequately believe in defending the definition of
freeware." I wrote this on ACF recently and you should take note:
"I will continue to do as I like and neither you, nor anybody else,
will stop me." So FOAD. TALK TO THE HAND, PUNK.
Here is a list of newsgroups dedicated to me over the last few
years by my many friends on Usenet:
alt.usenet.kooks.john-corliss
alt.blowitoutyourass.john-corliss
alt.i-think.therefore.i-dont.listen-to.john-corliss
alt.pedophile.john-corliss
alt.troll.john-corliss
alt.bonehead.john-corliss
alt.comp.freeware.corliss.controlled.taliban.hell
alt.idiot-savant.without-the.savant-part.john-corliss
alt.turd-burglar.john-corliss
Over and out
This is too funny. I had to take it in spurts between guffaws. You've
nailed it pretty well. BTW, I'm turning in my wings as a result :)
--
Bear Bottoms
Freeware Website http://bearbottoms1.com
>......in the order that The Stars revealed them to me........
Wow! That is the funniest post I have read in *years* :-)
I laughed my ass of reading it and had to restart from the top twice!!
Tell the truth now Mystic. In real life you are one of the striking
network TV comedy writers. I just know you are.
> In article <op.t3qwm...@bwwlxc1.br.no.cox.net>, bearbottoms1
> @gmai.com says...
>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 09:52:34 -0600, Mystic Meg
>> <mysti...@starflutecommand.com> wrote:
>>
>> This is too funny. I had to take it in spurts between guffaws. You've
>> nailed it pretty well. BTW, I'm turning in my wings as a result :)
>>
>>
> And if we catch you and that damn helicopter in Canadian airspace fella,
> we'll confiscate the coptor and run you out.
> Merry Christmas you old Bear,
> POKO
Catch me? Are you daft? Merry Christmas POKO.
That should not happen. I'll go to US Jail for a long and
hard time and you will miss all your officer decos. ;-)
Merry Christmas and nice festive days!
Best regards,
Daniel Mandic
> I laughed my ass of reading it and had to restart from the top twice!!
;)
Best regards,
Daniel Mandic
> elaich--will have a terrible accident one day when demonstrating
> the latest model of environmental vacuum cleaner to a customer.
> He will get sucked up the pipe and shredded, and that'll be the
> last anybody sees of him.
Boy, for somebody who has about 50 posts in this group for the whole year,
I rate? This whacko is so obsessed, she (it?) even knows what my profession
is. I really pity this individual.
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> From: Mystic Meg <mysti...@starflutecommand.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.comp.freeware
> Subject: Mystic Meg's predictions for <a.c.f.> 2008
> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 09:52:34 -0600
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Chris Millbank often stamps his feet and squeals "I don't nymshift,
believe it, I command you!". I guess Google isn't his friend.
--
I lurk, therefore I am. If I post, I am iNcReDuLoUs.
>Mystic Meg <mysti...@starflutecommand.com> aka not hummingbird in drag
>wrote in news:81b16fe743bfcc7d...@MysticMeg.127.0.0.1:
>
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>> From: Mystic Meg <mysti...@starflutecommand.com>
>> Newsgroups: alt.comp.freeware
>> Subject: Mystic Meg's predictions for <a.c.f.> 2008
>> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 09:52:34 -0600
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Now now iNcReDuLoUs Marjory, it's Christmas. Even though ageing
socialists like yourself don't celebrate such events, decent folk do
Anyway, I'm sure you can point out where my name appears in the
headers of Mystic Meg's post. Right?
--
"The difference between socialism and fascism is superficial and
purely formal...under fascism, men retain the semblance or pretense
of private property, but the government holds total power over its
use and disposal...
If 'ownership' means the right to determine the use and disposal
of material goods, then Nazism endowed the state with every real
prerogative of ownership. What the individual retained was merely a
formal deed, a contentless deed, which conferred no rights on its
holder. Under communism, there is collective ownership of property
_de jure_. Under Nazism, there is the same collective ownership
_de facto_"
Ayn Rand (Lexicon 159, 161)
>Bear Bottoms wrote:
>
>> Catch me? Are you daft? Merry Christmas POKO.
>
>That should not happen. I'll go to US Jail for a long and
>hard time and you will miss all your officer decos. ;-)
>
>
>Merry Christmas and nice festive days!
And to you Daniel. Peace and Happiness in 2008.
Merry CHRISTmas Daniel Mandic the awesome.
Pity and envy aren't so different :) Merry Xmas for you.
> And to you Daniel. Peace and Happiness in 2008.
Hi!
Happy Christmas and a good slide into the next Year.
Best regards,
Daniel Mandic
It's Hummingbird, of course.
The sentiments in the posting are so obvious that they give him away.
Aguy posted like this a few weeks ago.
You can tell by the blatant antisemitism and his complete lack of understanding fascism in the modern world.
But MegtheLIBBird knows all. Watch him tell you.
Lew
Lew
What's up with your news reader Lew/Slash ...got a line wrap problem
with it? Lol.
>
> Lew
> Lew
P-l-e-a-s-e ...one name tag is quite enough thanks.
--
An anti-semite is not someone who hates Jews;
it is someone the Zionists hate.
Yeah, a 486 with 16MB should be enough for anyone, here ;)
(FASCISTS!!!!!) ;-)
Best regards,
Daniel Mandic
Let me help you again. You dont know what a fascist is. You are an anti-semite. For today Ill just teach you
the definition of anti-semitism which you practice regularly, and are obviously very proud of as you post
constantly regarding your fear of the Jewish religion and those who practice it. You accuse people of being a
Jew when you cant win a discussion with facts. As if that is some sort of an insult. It is not.
Antisemitism (alternatively spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism, also known as judophobia) is hostility,
prejudice, toward Jews as a religious, racial, or ethnic group. This hostility may be manifested in
discrimination against individual Jews, or in extreme cases violent attacks on entire communities. While the
term's etymology may imply that antisemitism is directed against all Semitic peoples, it is in practice used
exclusively to refer to hostility towards Jews.
Lew
And of course, there is this admission of guilt which hb included in
this, his latest sock-puppet troll:
> hummingbird--will get piss*d off with Franklin, Ron May and
> John Corliss falsely accusing him of being the sporger (and just
> about anybody else who posts to a.c.f. anonymously), that he will
> decide to install Hipcrime/NewsMaestro to get his own back. a.c.f.
> will then frequently disappear under a tsunami of sporge, the like
> of which has never been seen bark bark woof woof etc. etc. etc.
Most people in this group know that he's already done this.
It's clearly indicated by the list of the names of the regulars in his
troll:
badgolferman
Dan Goodman
elaich
Franklin
Gordon Darling
iNcReDuLoUs
John Corliss
Kat Mandu
Lew/Slash
Lord Possum
ms
Ron May
Susan Bugher
Yrrah
»Q«
that he continues to alienate himself from more and more people. I guess
he's one of those people who, for whatever reason, simply thrives on
being hated. On the other hand, he must behave in a completely different
manner IRL, or he would have been beaten into a coma long ago.
All he has to do is to start acting like a human being and actually
contribute to this group instead of continually being a problem.
However, people like hummingbird who have mental issues rarely change
and can actually get worse.
--
John Corliss
I had to give Hummingbird/Chris Milbank a lesson on what "holocaust"
meant. I don't think he managed to grasp it because he is in such
denial.
Hummingbird/Chris is setting up a situation regarding his sporge
which seeks to muddle cause & effect.
When Hummingbird/Chris has to admit he is the sporger then he will
try to say he was somehow forced into it by those
dastardly-evil-nasty people which he lists.
Hummingbird/Chris conveniently forgets that he started the sporge
himself. (In fact it was just as we were about to be reminded of
more public info about Chris Milbank.)
--
cc: alt.software.newsreaders
which also suffers Hummingbird/Chris's sproge
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> From: Mystic Meg <mysti...@starflutecommand.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.comp.freeware
> Subject: Mystic Meg's predictions for <a.c.f.> 2008
> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 09:52:34 -0600
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>"hummingbird" <hummi...@2die4.com> wrote in message
>news:11bec218399555cf...@localhost.127.0.0.1...
>>
>> What's up with your news reader Lew/Slash ...got a line wrap problem
>> with it? Lol.
>>
>>>
>>> Lew
>>> Lew
>>
>> P-l-e-a-s-e ...one name tag is quite enough thanks.
>Let me [ ... ]
[Lews/Slash's Christmas rant deleted]
.
.
.
Ooooooh dear ... there's nothing left!
--
"I will continue to do as I like and neither you,
nor anybody else, will stop me"
<John Corliss>, ACF, 7-Dec-2007
"The person who is responsible needs to be beaten so badly
that when he wakes up, his clothes will be out of style."
<John Corliss>, ACF, 2-Dec-2007
Franklin's whopping BIG LIE of 2007:
"I do not post with deliberate and misleading errors"
<Franklin>, ACF, 23-Nov-2007
>Franklin wrote:
>> elaich wrote:
>>> Mystic Meg (hummingbird) trolled:
>>>>
>>>> elaich--will have a terrible accident one day when demonstrating
>>>> the latest model of environmental vacuum cleaner to a customer.
>>>> He will get sucked up the pipe and shredded, and that'll be the
>>>> last anybody sees of him.
>>>
>>> Boy, for somebody who has about 50 posts in this group for the
>>> whole year, I rate? This whacko is so obsessed, she (it?) even
>>> knows what my profession is. I really pity this individual.
>>
>> It's Hummingbird, of course.
>> The sentiments in the posting are so obvious that they give him away.
>> Aguy posted like this a few weeks ago.
[deleted:
John Corliss's usual rants where he dresses up his opinion as fact]
.
.
.
Oooooh ... there's nothing left.
John, why did you intentionally leave my name off the list? Could the
reason be you are not honest? That you have chosen to boost Franklin has
somewhat surprised me, and has made me reconsider my categorization of
you. Such demonstrations have shown me you have no character at all worth
considering.
If Hummer made the post, he will admit it. If not, it only shows the true
speculative fools you and those are. I thought the characterization of you
John, was spot on BTW.
Hi Lew!
You are right! You are also a Jew (sorry, normally I say it other). E.g. ppl
'with jewish believing'. (I translated directly, sorry :-))
As with me. Sometimes I get flamed (N... etc.). But I am not one of that
minority, no, I am rather fond of the Majority ;-).
You have also your right, being the other staff ;)
Best regards,
Daniel Mandic
P.S.: but there's where's USA klinking in, into minorities. making mischief
as seen with Kurds.
I'm in good company, it seems.
> that he continues to alienate himself from more and more people. I
> guess he's one of those people who, for whatever reason, simply
> thrives on being hated. On the other hand, he must behave in a
> completely different manner IRL, or he would have been beaten into a
> coma long ago.
>
> All he has to do is to start acting like a human being and actually
> contribute to this group instead of continually being a problem.
> However, people like hummingbird who have mental issues rarely change
> and can actually get worse.
--
Dan Goodman
"I have always depended on the kindness of stranglers."
Tennessee Williams, A Streetcar Named Expire
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> Anyway, I'm sure you can point out where my name appears in the
> headers of Mystic Meg's post. Right?
>
Funny one, Hummingbird/Chris. You have asked someone to prove the
post is from you based on the headers. Well of course Aoie helps and
running a Usenet proxy server on your PC let's you stuff in what
headers you like. Apart from your DOS programs the main things you
have talked about recently in alt.comp.freeware are (1) sporge, (2)
nfilter or News Proxy, and (3) Usenet headers.
So, are you telling us that we can't see your favorite and uniquely
bizarre sentiments all over the posting you made under then name
Mystic Meg? That post is soaking wet with your ideas and these are
ideas which no one else has ever claimed to share. See:
From: Mystic Meg <mysti...@starflutecommand.com>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.freeware
Subject: Mystic Meg's predictions for <a.c.f.> 2008
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 09:52:34 -0600
Message-ID: <81b16fe743bfcc7d...@MysticMeg.127.0.0.1>
Google Groups (XNA original): http://tinyurl.com/2bf7ag
Google Groups (archive): http://tinyurl.com/2yzq3b
It was a bit of mistake really because it now helps convince those in
alt.comp.freeware (who had not been too sure if you were actually
using sockpuppets) that you definitely do make anonymous posts under
a sockpuppet pseudonym.
Of course, that's something many others of us knew a long time ago.
Franklin
cc: n.s.r.
Here it is fully quoted:
<quote>
Franklin--his well known personality disorder will continue in 2008
and will finally be diagnosed as the Climorphic condition of
Tourette's Syndrome: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinomorphism .
It will be dealt with in the second or third quarter when his family
and friends become so fed up with his senseless babbling, incessant
lies, obsession with perverted sex and identity problems, they will
collect the money required for him to have a full frontal lobotomy:
>http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=full+frontal+lobotomy
Afterwards, Franklin will never be the same again and will be given
a brand new battery-operated Random Rubbish Generator to play with.
</quote>
Rotfl.
-your friendly psychologist, hummingbird-
>> It's clearly indicated by the list of the names of the regulars in
>> his troll:
>>
>> badgolferman
>> Dan Goodman
>> elaich
>> Franklin
>> Gordon Darling
>> iNcReDuLoUs
>> John Corliss
>> Kat Mandu
>> Lew/Slash
>> Lord Possum
>> ms
>> Ron May
>> Susan Bugher
>> Yrrah
>> Q
>
> I'm in good company, it seems.
>
I too seem to be keeping good company. Heh!
I mean to say, if we all had a party then would anyone really want to
invite Hummingbird? No.
(In speaking of Chris Millbank/Hummingbird and its various "sock
puppets")
> he continues to alienate himself from more and more people. I guess
> he's one of those people who, for whatever reason, simply thrives on
> being hated.
I think you nailed it, John. There are people like most of the
regular posters and lurkers here who recognize that ACF is like a
neighborhood community. We know up front that we won't always agree,
but we understand there is an acceptable standard of behavior. The
discussions can often be heated, but most feel it's important to try
to contribute than to try to tear down.
Some, OTOH, are so dysfunctional and miserable that they have an
irresistible compulsion to try to spread their misery, to try to tear
down what they know they know they can't build, and their goal is to
try and bring others down to their level.
Anyone who has been a parent or who has been around small children for
any amount of time will recognize the term "terrible twos," when a
child begins to assert itself before she or he has grasped the
fundamental concepts of "playing well with others." All a small child
knows is that they are unhappy and miserable, so their instinctive
reaction is to try to eke out some measure of satisfaction in trying
to ruin things for others.
Most children grow out of this phase as they gain social experience
and come to the realization that they have more to gain by changing
their own behavior than by engaging in what ultimately turns out to be
a futile effort to control others through their tantrums.
All of us still have traces of the "terrible twos" within us. I know
*I* do <g> but the important thing (IMHO) is to recognize when I've
crossed a line and need to bring *myself* back to reality mode.
Unfortunately, some individuals are so socially, emotionally and
intellectually retarded that the "tantrum" behavior (in various forms)
is their only method of coping. They don't have the same set of
skills to work with that well-developed individuals do. Perhaps it
was due to their parentage and upbringing. Perhaps it is because (at
least in their own mind if not necessarily in reality) they've been
"abused and maltreated" by others.
Whatever the reason, these pathetic souls become the vandals who
strike in the dead of night to slash the inflatable lawn displays of
people who attempt to spread a little cheer for others in decorating
for the holidays. They become the Holocaust deniers. They are those
who make obscene and harassing anonymous phone calls to disturb
others' peace. They hide behind various nyms and sock puppets on
Usenet to take cheap shots at others that they can't deal with
directly as equals out of fear or impotence, because they know they
will lose. They are the sporger(s) whose goal is to try and ruin a
positive experience for others, but who are ultimately frustrated and
defeated when their efforts are easily brushed aside. In extreme
cases, they become the lowest form of criminal elements like child
molesters whose warped pleasure comes not from the act itself, but the
satisfaction of some small sense of power by attacking the powerless
when they themselves are powerless to deal with the real or (more
often) imaginary abuses heaped on them by others.
Everyone needs to decide for themselves the best approach to dealing
with these miserable individuals. Foe me, I've decided to deprive
them of what they most crave: my anger and animosity. I refuse to be
baited. It took me a long time to learn that no one can *make* me
angry or upset. Those are conscious choices that *I* make for myself.
At least for me, the more rewarding feeling comes from denying those
who can't compete peer-to-peer the satisfaction of controlling my
feelings or reactions. Think of the process as dealing with insects
or vermin. You don't get "mad" at them, and you don't reward them by
"feeding" them. You deal with them in a mature and adult fashion.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
--
Ron M.
(I filter Googlespam)
>> that he continues to alienate himself from more and more people. I
>> guess he's one of those people who, for whatever reason, simply
>> thrives on being hated. On the other hand, he must behave in a
>> completely different manner IRL, or he would have been beaten
>> into a coma long ago.
>>
>> All he has to do is to start acting like a human being and
>> actually contribute to this group instead of continually being a
>> problem. However, people like hummingbird who have mental issues
>> rarely change and can actually get worse.
>>
> John, why did you intentionally leave my name off the list? Could
> the reason be you are not honest? That you have chosen to boost
> Franklin has somewhat surprised me, and has made me reconsider my
> categorization of you. Such demonstrations have shown me you have
> no character at all worth considering.
>
> If Hummer made the post, he will admit it. If not, it only shows
> the true speculative fools you and those are. I thought the
> characterization of you John, was spot on BTW.
Come along now, Mr Bottoms, let's be honest. We all know
Hummingbird/Chris does not admit to his actions.
We all know each other well enough and there's no need for us to
politely pretend that Hummingbird/Chris has any scruples about making
vicious attacks on people he is debating with under the cover of
sockpuppets. Hummingbird/Chris even posts to his own sockpuppets to
offer support and agreement although often he is the only person in the
whole group which makes any reply at all.
In fact, one such posting was made by Hummingbird/Chris about a week ago
which has the subject "Susan Bugher hides from fact" and which
Hummingbird/Chris made anonymously by using the pseudonym Liberator.
Google Groups: http://preview.tinyurl.com/2xoch6
Message-ID <news:0bab8780-1b9e-4395-b67e-152ab970e6de
@l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
Mr Bottoms, you've been keeping a safe distance from Hummingbird/Chris's
loonier rants and raves and it is now kindhearted of you to try and
defend your former diligent follower. Noblesse oblige and all that but
maybe this is one post not to get too close to as it is 100% obvious who
the author is.
Merry Christmas.
Franklin
> to contribute than to try to tear down.
Which is exactly what you John, Franklin, Lew, elaich, iNcReDuLoUs and a
few others are doing exactly. It is the same people though Susan has shown
some character and stopped leading you around. Your little gang of mental
midgets are where the worst of the group comes from. Your speculative crap
and gang mentality equates to the same mentality and injustices of the
Salem witch hunts.
Is Mystic Meg of your making? Not that it matters much...though I'm not
much into hiding behind sock puppets. See no reason to.
What an excellent set of observations. That's a first class posting.
Ron, if I may be so bold, I would like to add a link to your posting
which gives a demonstration of Hummingbird/Chris's arrested development.
This link was originally posted when Hummingbird/Chris was starting to
throw a tantrum because Susan Bugher was not answering some loaded
question of his about the contents of her sig and he complained that she
was "ignoring all requests to remove it". It is as if Hummingbird/Chris
is playing what psytchologists call, "His Majesty The Child" and
believed he could command what others have in their sigs.
See "Cry Baby" = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L65niWwsOKc
and watch for the child's patterns of false bawling and bleating.
Poor kid and poor Hummingbird/Chris. They probably do not even realise
they are easily spotted.
> On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:57:26 -0600, Ron May <may...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> to contribute than to try to tear down.
>
> Which is exactly what you John, Franklin, Lew, elaich, iNcReDuLoUs
> and a few others are doing exactly. It is the same people though
> Susan has shown some character and stopped leading you around.
> Your little gang of mental midgets are where the worst of the
> group comes from. Your speculative crap and gang mentality equates
> to the same mentality and injustices of the Salem witch hunts.
>
Mr Bottoms, how hard would it be for you to make a post which did not
make reference to "character"?
You do share more than a little of Hummingbird's "character" when
earlier this year you and Hummingbird both spent very many months
attacking ACF (Susan in particular) with the avowed intention of causing
damage.
I suspect discussions about "character" might not be helped by the
actions we experienced.
Mr Bottoms,
Mystic Meg is the pseudonym of a British fortune teller whose stargazing
column appears in some of Rupert Murdoch's trashiest newspapers and
which are not so different to the National Inquirer.
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00029/meg1_29088a.jpg
She is nicknamed "Septic Peg" by one satirist. And that means we now
know what Hummingbird Chris looks like when he is clothed in his dress.
We can also understand why he needs to use pseudonyms! See this:
> Krazee Brenda--will reconcile with her estranged hubby and will
> announce reunitedware.
Doesn't look good, he's a rock n roll star now <sigh>
sniffle
shrunklink.com/ahfa
--
See Brenda's UniWorldWare
http://tinyurl.com/nm2yt
> Boy, for somebody who has about 50 posts in this group for the whole year,
> I rate? This whacko is so obsessed, she (it?) even knows what my profession
> is. I really pity this individual.
elaich, it's fukkheads like you that make abortion appealing.
>On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:24:04 -0600, hummingbird
><hummi...@2die4.com.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Franklin, rotfl...
>> You omitted to include what Mystic Meg foresees happening to you
>> in 2008, for the benefit of NSR readers.
>>
>> Here it is fully quoted:
>> <quote>
>>
>> Franklin--his well known personality disorder will continue in 2008
>> and will finally be diagnosed as the Climorphic condition of
>> Tourette's Syndrome: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinomorphism .
>> It will be dealt with in the second or third quarter when his family
>> and friends become so fed up with his senseless babbling, incessant
>> lies, obsession with perverted sex and identity problems, they will
>> collect the money required for him to have a full frontal lobotomy:
>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=full+frontal+lobotomy
>> Afterwards, Franklin will never be the same again and will be given
>> a brand new battery-operated Random Rubbish Generator to play with.
>>
>> </quote>
>>
>>
>> Rotfl.
>Is Mystic Meg of your making? Not that it matters much...though I'm not
>much into hiding behind sock puppets. See no reason to.
I'm sure the name Mystic Meg was chosen to add some seasonal humour
and most people saw it for exactly that. Humour is usually best when
people can relate to it, as we see with much political humour. That
John Corliss, Franklin, Ron May and several other usual suspects
don't see it as humour, speaks volumes about their angry, old and
bitter characters than anything else. It's time they chilled out and
got a life.
>>Is Mystic Meg of your making? Not that it matters much...though I'm not
>>much into hiding behind sock puppets. See no reason to.
>
>
> I'm sure the name Mystic Meg was chosen to add some seasonal humour
> and most people saw it for exactly that.
A search at Google Groups for the exact phrase "random rubbish generator"
shows that there have only been two Usenet posters to ever use it.
Coincidence, surely.
So let me guess who those two posters who, out of the whole Usenet, have
used the phrase "random rubbish generator".
1. One is Hummingbird/Chris.
2. And the second is Hummingbird/Chris posting as Mystic Meg.
Of course, the k00k cookbook says to obfuscate and deny everything.
So now we might expect Mystic Meg to post and say she was just emulating
Hummingbird's written style in honor of the great man. Yeah, right. And
then watch Hummingbird/Chris reply to Mystic Meg and effectively talk to
himself.
The British have this strange puppet show called "Punch And Judy" where
the puppeteer speaks the voices of both the character Punch and also the
character Judy. I get a feeling of watching a Punch And Judy show when
I see Hummingbird reply to his own sockpuppets.
We can see the same thing in the recent thread "Susan Bugher hides from
fact" (Dec 16, 2007) where Hummingbird posts as Liberator and then
replies as Hummingbird.
There are many more examples. From memory, Hummingbird posts as Buster
and then replies as Hummingbird.
When Hummingbird posted as "Jon+Franklin", he then posted to the same
thread. (This is the one where Hummingbird referred to "zionist
jooooooo reptile" and which caused Jon to get very annoyed with
Hummingbird.)
Oh, there's so many. And few ever post again in A.C.F.
However Hummingbird is cultivating a few sleepers who post rarely but
will be available to pop up when needed. One example of this is when
Hummingbird posts as "Derald".
> Ron, if I may be so bold, I would like to add a link to your posting
> which gives a demonstration of Hummingbird/Chris's arrested development.
Franklin,
While on the one hand I don't want to come down to Chris/Hummingbird's
level, and I'm not "on board" with your approach, (even though I
understand your motives,) I have no objection to you or anyone else
quoting or using anything I write. My grandmother impressed upon me
more than a half century ago to never put anything in writing that I
would regret later.
While others may try to avoid responsibility by cloaking their
identities, I've always been proud of who I am. I stand behind my
words and my actions and take whatever consequences come with them.
That's not to say that I'm always "right" on the issues or even the
facts, which is why I often qualify my remarks and make corrections
when nececssary, but rather to say that I'm true to myself when it
comes to matters of principle. Like it or not, with me, you know what
you're getting up front. <g>
> On Mon 24 Dec 2007 13:53:00, Bear Bottoms <bearbo...@gmai.com>
> wrote:
>
>> If Hummer made the post, he will admit it. If not, it only shows
>> the true speculative fools you and those are. I thought the
>> characterization of you John, was spot on BTW.
>
> Come along now, Mr Bottoms, let's be honest. We all know
> Hummingbird/Chris does not admit to his actions.
hummingbird's idea of seasonal humor includes "He will eventually
disappear up his own ass". What a charmer. Chris Millbank aka
hummingbird is about as likely to own up to one of his sockpuppets as he
is to act like a decent human being. He is more likely to figure out how
to effectively obscure the headers of his sockpuppet posts, but as he
missed the point of Mike Dee's lesson two weeks ago, that seems
improbable as well.
People like hummingbird will always have their followers. Some of them
are just more vocal and attention-seeking than others.
>I think you nailed it, John.
[...]
Ron,
Pray tell, what the crackpot conspiracy theories that you, John
Corliss and the moron Franklin et al spew day after day, have
to do with improving acf or anything else? Behaving like a gang
of self-appointed fascist netcops does no good to anyone. Time
to chill out and get a life.
>iNcReDuLoUse's idea of seasonal humor includes "He will eventually
>disappear up his own ass". What a charmer. iNcReDuLoUse aka
>Marjory is about as likely to own up to one of his sockpuppets as he
>is to act like a decent human being. He is more likely to figure out
>how to effectively obscure the headers of his sockpuppet posts,
>but as he missed the point of hummingbird's lesson two weeks ago,
>that seems improbable as well.
>People like iNcReDuLoUse will always have their followers. Some of them
>are just more vocal and attention-seeking than others.
There you go iNcReDuLoUse Marjory. It looks like one of those forms
you can buy where you just fill in the blanks.
>While on the one hand I don't want to come down to Chris/Hummingbird's
Don't worry yourself Ron, you went way below my level and most
others a long time ago when you became a moronic conspiracy theorist
who actually believes his own crackpot theories and changes the
facts to fit them.
[rest of your intermidable tripe binned unread]
I'll leave that to other people to work out, Cecil, but I think you
are wrong. For instance, I invented that term some time to describe
Franklin's posts and I have seen it quoted in his replies and others
on Google.
The kind of replies generated in here about the above topics (and
others) show how some people who should know better are just spewing so
much rancid bile.
Give it a rest, FFS, all of you.
R.
Here here!
Merry Christmas Mike...I couldn't agree more.
That's about the most sensible post I've read tonight Mike.
No, I am not the sporger.
Merry Christmas.
LOL...I suppose you are right kinda. How can one more than agree.
> I mean to say, if we all had a party then would anyone really want to
> invite Hummingbird? No.
So, why don't all of you simply killfile him, as I have, and he will be
preaching to an empty church.
I think bear just snookered you, Roger. :-)
> Antisemitism (alternatively spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism,
> also known as judophobia) is hostility, prejudice, toward Jews as a
> religious, racial, or ethnic group. This hostility may be manifested
> in discrimination against individual Jews, or in extreme cases
> violent attacks on entire communities. While the term's etymology may
> imply that antisemitism is directed against all Semitic peoples, it
> is in practice used exclusively to refer to hostility towards Jews.
>
> Lew
Hi Lew!
;-))))
Yeah, your'e right again. :)
As here. They start without reason to be, yeah, 'Judophobia'.
Talking sentence by sentence something (an other language probably)
bad about ppl who like to be and live a jewish religion. Or
how they are guilty in various things the last 2000y etc., pfffrh,
they live in Germany for over 1000y and Austria is about 500y old!
Bad are not they who immigrate, no, bad are they who emmigrate. :)
I can't understand and can only say the austrian NAZIS, should
SHUTT UPPP and being happy that someone stupid as america is beating
the world out, out for ressources and our N.... here may continue
to drive their overheighted Porsche's, Audi's (over 8 Cyl and over
5L Engine, up to 6-800PS in series-models, S Models), buying oil
to heat up too big houses for too less ppl insides etc etc etc.
Ill World, what else...
Best regards,
Daniel Mandic
P.S.: You reminded your views. Going further would make you suspect,
that you would like to wish to include all Jewish ppl into your
tribe of Jewish religion ;-). Similar to Orthodox, Evangelic,
Catholic and more, but all are Christs, some with better partnership-
relations to Jewish some with less. Jewish-Christ, or Christian-Jewish
we are here, except the pagans and even more terrible, the GUILTY
(with burning died friends and relatives.... ,in the HELL ;-)), also
called N.... and NeoN.....
But it doesn't make me so much wonder, cause many catholics here are
swindler and nothing else than seemingly blind CAPITALISTS.
> We all know each other well enough and there's no need for us to
> politely pretend that Hummingbird/Chris has any scruples about making
> vicious attacks on people he is debating with under the cover of
> sockpuppets. Hummingbird/Chris even posts to his own sockpuppets to
> offer support and agreement although often he is the only person in
> the whole group which makes any reply at all.
> Franklin
Hmmm, I never saw a conscious nym-shifter replying to his/her
own postings, huh? Are you sure?
I think that were some fans of Hummingbird.
It's just a skip and could be meaning anything.
Best regards,
Daniel Mandic
> On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:57:26 -0600, Ron May <may...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > to contribute than to try to tear down.
>
> Which is exactly what you John, Franklin, Lew, elaich, iNcReDuLoUs
> and a few others are doing exactly. It is the same people though
> Susan has shown some character and stopped leading you around. Your
> little gang of mental midgets are where the worst of the group comes
> from. Your speculative crap and gang mentality equates to the same
> mentality and injustices of the Salem witch hunts.
Hi William!
A good father and mother is not given, when they both have made/born
a baby which is becoming a child.
It's possible that two singles can cope better with all coming events
;-) after a child is born....
Let's say they have both a good and nice childhood.
The other two could be both stranded souls, trying to pump things into
the time of growing and the child is getting mad, just to overgive him
or her then, to a psychic clinic, inot the handes of old Nazi surgery
staff. Indeed!
Best regards,
Daniel Mandic
P.S.: Underground! Real living, IMO. Minority... BUT ;-) (Pharma, etc.)
> I think bear just snookered you, Roger. :-)
Hi Mike!
I don't think William plays Snooker.
(it was more a 'Flare', or Flares, who knows... ;-))
Best regards,
Daniel Mandic
> > You omitted to include what Mystic Meg foresees happening to you
> Is Mystic Meg of your making? Not that it matters much...though I'm
> not much into hiding behind sock puppets. See no reason to.
Hmmm, 'you ommited to include'...
Best regards,
Daniel Mandic
> Is Mystic Meg of your making? Not that it matters much...though I'm not
> much into hiding behind sock puppets. See no reason to.
Good police man, bad police man.
Not even there, they behave rightly ;-).... what do you wish!?
Best regards,
Daniel Mandic
Two singles, two linked by the ring, none at all...destiny is for the
child to decide.
> Lew wrote:
It's like...hey let's make up something different to believe so we will
have our own tribe.
> Mike Echo wrote:
Dang Daniel, you are right...I prefer billiards. I mean, why play the game
with smaller red balls.
(sulk)
--
Roger Hunt
>John, why did you intentionally leave my name off the list? Could the
>reason be you are not honest? That you have chosen to boost Franklin has
>somewhat surprised me, and has made me reconsider my categorization of
>you. Such demonstrations have shown me you have no character at all worth
>considering.
>
>If Hummer made the post, he will admit it. If not, it only shows the true
>speculative fools you and those are. I thought the characterization of you
>John, was spot on BTW.
Right on.
> It's like...hey let's make up something different to believe so we will
> have our own tribe.
Hi Bear!
It's ok, so long you leave place at outermost Right.
America wouldn't have become so big without being tolerant
to any tribe and culture the World has seen.
USA could be even better, IMO, but there's the frontier drawn, yet.
I have no idea how we will come together one time, do you!?
Let's say, America (USA) would become the most peaceful state of the
World.... what would happen when an other state is even more
peaceful!?
;-)
Kind regards,
Daniel Mandic
> Two singles, two linked by the ring, none at all...destiny is for the
> child to decide.
Yeah, and to show it where the limits of Pa and Ma are ;-)
E.g. a rich (much money) Family could realize a deeper and higher way.
Thanks to democracy, so even poor families do have childrens with a
higher education.... though, such ppl will propose and successful in other
regions and/or companies. It's still not all o.k....
Best regards,
Daniel Mandic
> Dang Daniel, you are right...I prefer billiards. I mean, why play the
> game with smaller red balls.
Hi Bear!
I don't know, it's your game (Pool) ;-)
However, Pool I can play much more fluently. Snooker I have successed
maybe 30-40 points in one turn....
Best regards,
Daniel Mandic-
Am I the only one who finds it just about impossible to understand what
Daniel is on about?
> On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 05:51:19 -0600, Bear Bottoms wrote:
Oh no no no. Billiards, pool, and snooker (forget bumper pool) are much
different. The game I prefer has no pockets.
> On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 05:43:36 -0600, Bear Bottoms wrote:
You can dream about peace all you want. Humans are not peaceful...never
will be.
> On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 05:38:39 -0600, Bear Bottoms wrote:
The happiest people I've seen around the world lived on dirt floors. So
did some of the most unhappy.
I don't understand. How do you play pocket billiards without pockets?
<snerk>
--
Gelukkig Nieuwjaar,
Nicolaas.
... Who needs rhetorical questions?
> On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 12:09:46 -0600, Bear Bottoms <bearbo...@gmai.com>
> wrote in <news:op.t3wkq...@bwwlxc1.br.no.cox.net>:
>
>> On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 10:07:06 -0600, Daniel Mandic <daniel...@aon.at>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 05:51:19 -0600, Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dang Daniel, you are right...I prefer billiards. I mean, why play the
>>>> game with smaller red balls.
>>>
>>> Hi Bear!
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know, it's your game (Pool) ;-)
>>>
>>> However, Pool I can play much more fluently. Snooker I have successed
>>> maybe 30-40 points in one turn....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Daniel Mandic-
>>
>> Oh no no no. Billiards, pool, and snooker (forget bumper pool) are much
>> different. The game I prefer has no pockets.
>
> I don't understand. How do you play pocket billiards without pockets?
> <snerk>
>
Tis called pool (_;_) You use your stick to try and get your balls in the
pocket.
> Let's say, America (USA) would become the most peaceful state of the
> World.... what would happen when an other state is even more peaceful!?
>
> ;-)
Nothing ;-)
The same as if someone would like to be more martial.
I hope I'll see the day they speak about war and not about peace, to
say the least....
<Strolling Crow>
> Oh no no no. Billiards, pool, and snooker (forget bumper pool) are much
> different. The game I prefer has no pockets.
Aah..., Carambolage. I like the three-bump version.
Best regards,
Daniel Mandic
>
> On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:45:52 -0800 'Cecil SeaSerpent'
> wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:
>
>>"hummingbird" <hummi...@2die4.com> wrote in message
>>news:1d78d88d74b254a5...@localhost.127.0.0.1...
>>>
>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 12:21:54 -0600 'Bear Bottoms'
>>> wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:
>>
>>>>Is Mystic Meg of your making? Not that it matters much...though
>>>>I'm not much into hiding behind sock puppets. See no reason to.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm sure the name Mystic Meg was chosen to add some seasonal
>>> humour and most people saw it for exactly that.
>>
>>A search at Google Groups for the exact phrase "random rubbish
>>generator" shows that there have only been two Usenet posters to
>>ever use it.
>>
>>Coincidence, surely.
>
> I'll leave that to other people to work out, Cecil, but I think you
> are wrong. For instance, I invented that term some time to describe
> Franklin's posts and I have seen it quoted in his replies and
> others on Google.
>
Hummingbird/Chris, how foolish of you to open up this topic. The phrase
"random rubbish generator" is used by you very frequently.
(a) When you posted as Mystic Meg you used the same phrase.
(b) When you posted as Buster, you also used the same phrase.
See http://preview.tinyurl.com/3cg6ea
There is only one other recorded use of the phrase on the Usenet which
does not have your name involved and that was in 2005.
See http://preview.tinyurl.com/33afzc
There are only two uses on the whole Web of the phrase "random rubbish
generator" which does not have your name in some association. One use
was in 2004 and is used in an entirely different context. The other
only uses the phrase as a side heading, so its context too is very
different. See http://preview.tinyurl.com/3chzzp
Hummingbird/Chris, when most people are in a hole then they stop
digging. However as a Net k00k you will continue to deny it all even
though it is obvious to even your most supportive apologist that you are
lying.
... and that is just one phrase. The rest of Mystic Meg's posting reeks
of your weird notions. Just go back and have a look at what you posted
about Susan or Lew/Slash or John Corliss. No one else has expressed
most of those idiosyncratic views except yourself.
See http://preview.tinyurl.com/ysofdc
WHAT K00KERY NEXT? Are you going to deny that you are causing the
sporge in ACF and NSR?
Franklin
--
Some of Hummingbird's methods are explained here:
http://www.searchlores.org/way_kook.htm
> ......in the order that The Stars revealed them to me........
>
>
> badgolferman--will finally learn how to hit his balls and understand
> what 'chronological order' means.
Well, I don't know about "hitting" my balls but they have been slapped
up against my wife's ass. I do have two sons, you know.
As far as "chronological order" is concerned, does that have anything
to do with arranging things in temporal order or lining up the putt
properly?
--
"I miss. I miss. I miss. I make." -- Seve Ballesteros describing his
four-putt at Augusta's No. 16 in 1988
> On Mon 24 Dec 2007 10:55:50, John Corliss wrote:
> >
> > And of course, there is this admission of guilt which hb included
> > in this, his latest sock-puppet troll:
> >
> >
> >> hummingbird--will get piss*d off with Franklin, Ron May and
> >> John Corliss falsely accusing him of being the sporger (and just
> >> about anybody else who posts to a.c.f. anonymously), that he will
> >> decide to install Hipcrime/NewsMaestro to get his own back. a.c.f.
> >> will then frequently disappear under a tsunami of sporge, the like
> >> of which has never been seen bark bark woof woof etc. etc. etc.
> >
> > Most people in this group know that he's already done this.
>
>
>
> Hummingbird/Chris is setting up a situation regarding his sporge
> which seeks to muddle cause & effect.
>
> When Hummingbird/Chris has to admit he is the sporger then he will
> try to say he was somehow forced into it by those
> dastardly-evil-nasty people which he lists.
>
> Hummingbird/Chris conveniently forgets that he started the sporge
> himself. (In fact it was just as we were about to be reminded of
> more public info about Chris Milbank.)
If hummingbird is the sporger then he is all over Usenet. I am not
convinced he is guilty of the crime you accuse him of merely for the
reason that I don't think he is capable of performing such a dastardly
deed and not being caught by now. Everytime he tries changing aliases
in this group he is easily caught.
--
"The income tax has made more liars out of the American people than
golf has." -- Will Rogers
>> Hummingbird/Chris conveniently forgets that he started the sporge
>> himself. (In fact it was just as we were about to be reminded of
>> more public info about Chris Milbank.)
>
> If hummingbird is the sporger then he is all over Usenet. I am not
> convinced he is guilty of the crime you accuse him of merely for the
> reason that I don't think he is capable of performing such a dastardly
> deed and not being caught by now. Everytime he tries changing aliases
> in this group he is easily caught.
>
This is pure unmitigated, unfounded crap. It is the type of crap put out
by Franklin, Lew, elaich, iNcReDuLoUs, Ron May and a few others. Since I
have witnessed their postings, they have demonstrated such speculative
nonsense to try and gain ground that can't be gained utilizing such
tactics. It shows them to be childish fools.
> On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 18:21:53 GMT, Franklin
> <fran...@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Ron, if I may be so bold, I would like to add a link to your
>> posting which gives a demonstration of Hummingbird/Chris's
>> arrested development.
>
> Franklin,
>
> While on the one hand I don't want to come down to
> Chris/Hummingbird's level, and I'm not "on board" with your
> approach, (even though I understand your motives,) I have no
> objection to you or anyone else quoting or using anything I write.
> My grandmother impressed upon me more than a half century ago to
> never put anything in writing that I would regret later.
Your garndmother was most probably right. I fully agree with you
have posted about Hummingbird.
Needless to say that does no mean you fully agree with what I post
about Hummingbird. So don't worry!
> While others may try to avoid responsibility by cloaking their
> identities, I've always been proud of who I am. I stand behind my
> words and my actions and take whatever consequences come with them.
> That's not to say that I'm always "right" on the issues or even the
> facts, which is why I often qualify my remarks and make corrections
> when nececssary, but rather to say that I'm true to myself when it
> comes to matters of principle. Like it or not, with me, you know
> what you're getting up front. <g>
Hummingbird seems to operate in an "anything-goes" moral environment.
I don't know where or how he learnt such an operating style but it is
not one which I can subscribe to.
As for all Hummingbird's false identities, well, if he didn't feel
the urge to be downright vicious or plain nasty to others then there
wouldn't be such a need for his sockpuppeting.
As for his sporge. Well, that's now another topic.
> On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 12:09:46 -0600, Bear Bottoms wrote:
Actually I believe Billiards encompasses the many variations of the game,
Carom (no pockets-which I like) straight pool, eight ball, nine ball, six
ball, rotation, cut throat, one pocket, one rail and a few others along
with bumper pool, snooker (smaller balls and pockets) and a few other
variations away from the standard 4-1/2 x 9 table. Many tout 4x8 as
regulation which it is not though various sizes are made with the 2:1
ratio.
I actually won the west coast straight pool Navy championships a good
while back (my second favorite of the game.) The person I beat for the
championship was actually better than I, but his girlfriend was watching.
> Franklin wrote:
>
>> We all know each other well enough and there's no need for us to
>> politely pretend that Hummingbird/Chris has any scruples about
>> making vicious attacks on people he is debating with under the
>> cover of sockpuppets. Hummingbird/Chris even posts to his own
>> sockpuppets to offer support and agreement although often he is
>> the only person in the whole group which makes any reply at all.
>> Franklin
>
> Hmmm, I never saw a conscious nym-shifter replying to his/her
> own postings, huh? Are you sure?
Yup. I'm sure and others seem equally sure. Humingbird replies to his own
sockpuppets in order to make other feel that the two posters are
different.
The fact is that almost no one else other than Hummingbird ever replies to
his sockpuppets so that looks strange straight away.
And his sockpuppets say things or hold a point of view which could have
only come striaght from Hummingbird's own mouth.
Have a quick look at the thread "Susan Bugher hides from fact" which
Hummingbird started under the nym of Liberator.
Have you noticed that a few months ago Hummingbird was discussing with Q
in alt.comp.freeware some aspects of Hipcrime's revised sporge tool,
Newsmaestro.
On the other hand, nowadays Hummingbird doesn't say a single word about
his new toy, Newsmaestro. Are we supposed to think he suddenly lost
interest? No, of course not. However Hummingbird doesn't want to show
anyone how keen he is in learning more about Newsmaestro.
As I posted not very long ago, Hummingbird is slowly learning about
sporging headers which chain message IDs in order to make a group of
messages look like they are part of a thread. he is still a long way
from getting that right but has been making improvements.
It's sad, really.
ROFL
Hmmm.........
--
Gelukkig Nieuwjaar,
Nicolaas.
Mr Bottoms, you should be more circumspect and say you do or do not
believe Hummingbird is responsible.
By making a statement about Hummingbird'd sockpuppets and sporge as
if it was irrefutable fact, when in truth you do not have any way of
knowing and when your own technical knowledge is limited, is hardly
going to be credible.
Simply put, Hummingbird is a known liar and his sockpuppets show what
a nasty character he really is.
From this we know Hummingbird does not have a normal level of
personal integrity. Now the question is one of extent. Is
Hummingbird's personal integrity so damaged that he would sporge
A.C.F., N.S.R. and other Usenet groups. [And you can't know.]
> If hummingbird is the sporger then he is all over Usenet. I am not
> convinced he is guilty of the crime you accuse him of merely for the
> reason that I don't think he is capable of performing such a dastardly
> deed and not being caught by now. Everytime he tries changing aliases
> in this group he is easily caught.
I tend to agree with you, for basically the same reasons. The whining
that I see quoted from Bear Bottoms and Chris/Hummingbird to the
contrary, I have never accused HB of being the sporger. For the
record, the only tome any of my comments about the sporger and HB were
in the same post up to this point was in:
Message-ID: <f43hk3ludf9flk2u1...@4ax.com>
...when I said to one of HB's sock puppets:
"You seem highly and personally offended by what I write about the
sporger and to be argumentative when I suggest the pattern is
non-random. Why should you care? For the record, you aren't at the
top of my list of suspects, although you did make the short list."
Now, when they bleat so loudly about "false accusations" do you think
either one of them will admit their error and retract their "false
accusations" against me? <g>
I won't hold my breath, but it illustrates the difference between a
straight shooter and a bullshitter. <vbg>
--
Ron M.
(I filter Googlespam)
I have never accused LibBird of being the sporger. I've accused him of being anti-Semitic and part of the
Cult of the BearBottom.
Try to keep your delusions in order will you.
Lew
> I have never accused LibBird of being the sporger. I've accused him of
> being anti-Semitic and part of the
> Cult of the BearBottom.
> Try to keep your delusions in order will you.
>
> Lew
>
I never said you did...I said you participate in speculative nonsense
which you do as just demonstrated. The crap is still coming from the same
people, though Susan has demonstrated great character recently and stopped
leading you and those around like sheep. The same names are still causing
the same issues and creating the negative environment, you included. Only
Franklin, the worst of the lot and as sleezy as they come is relatively
new...and it appears those same I am talking about support such (ew).
Everyone stopped the crap but your gang...which originally started it-and
continue to do so. Susan played a major role in that, and continued to do
so for a while...egging the gang on...but she had the character to stop as
I have said.
> Susan Bugher hides from fact
Hi Franklin!
Yeah, I've read nearly the whole thread, pheew biiig....
Just see my first reply in the thread. It says all.
He started a kind of clear up and maybe he won't affect
unguilty subscribers, so he answered firstly, to see
what he frightens up.
However, it seems there is not one Susan Bugher
posting in the thread, to which hummingbird did try to
address, I think...
Best Regards,
Daniel Mandic
Get a clue. I only respond to you or LibBirds attacks on others. I dont start threads like you and your
friend. Susan didnt do anything. You and you alone started the recent attacks in this group.
There is no gang. There is no cult but yours.
You still dont know how to control your behavior.
Is this you or your wife ?
Lew
PS why are these mailings being crossposted?
> "Bear Bottoms" <bearbo...@gmai.com> wrote in message
> news:op.t3wrf...@bwwlxc1.br.no.cox.net...
>
>> This is pure unmitigated, unfounded crap. It is the type of crap put
>> out by Franklin, Lew, elaich, iNcReDuLoUs, Ron May and a few others.
>> Since I have witnessed their postings, they have demonstrated such
>> speculative nonsense to try and gain ground that can't be gained
>> utilizing such tactics. It shows them to be childish fools.
>
> I have never accused LibBird of being the sporger. I've accused him of
> being anti-Semitic and part of the Cult of the BearBottom.
> Try to keep your delusions in order will you.
You are ever the optimist, Lew :)
I also have never accused hummingbird aka Chris Millbank of being the
sporger, although I did point out that one of his associates wanted to
take credit for one of the first sporge floods in acf:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2789pa
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2xsn88
Its the eggnog and whisky talking:)
Lew
> "iNcReDuLoUs" <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:01bcd82e$0$11765$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
>>
>> You are ever the optimist, Lew :)
> Its the eggnog and whisky talking:)
Ahhh, eggnog. I THOUGHT my whisky tasted funny - I forgot the eggnog!
Cheers :)
Now its only a dollop of nog and a lot of whisky:)
Merry Merry:)