Yippy Search

[al]

May not please everyone, but after using Yippy (Yippy, powered by IBM
Watson) search for the last month, no more Google for me.
https://www.yippy.com

[VanguardLH]

Where are the additional search criteria in Yippy that Google has, like:
- The minimum size for pics in an image search.
- The date range for matching articles or pics: past hour, past 24
hours, past week, past month, past year, or a custom date range.
- Verbatim search rather than keyword search.
- A cached view (which survives awhile even when the site is down or
gone). Yippy's preview link is not of a cached copy of a web page.
- Advanced search dialog, so don't have to learn the syntax for search
criteria after first learning it.
- Choice of language to display the search page. The region selected
for the search engine may not match on your primary language.
- Besides web, news, images, and videos, you can search on Shopping,
Maps, Books, Flights, and Finance as categories for a search.

Image searching with Yippy results in social/blog style of mixing
different sized pics alongside each other making it harder to scan
through a set of matching pics. Seems more geared to mobile devices
with small screens to maximize space utilitization than for desktop PCs.
In fact, it is very mobile-centric in that you don't immediately get
pages of image results, but instead an ever-expanding set of mixed-size
pics as you scroll: when you hit the bottom of a search results page,
more pics are appended and you scroll some more. This is a scripted
function detecting when the web browser has hit the end of document.
Without scripting, this auto-append mode won't work. If you scroll far
enough (with scripting enabled), the auto-append mode ceases and you're
shown a page select index. To me, Yippy's image search is more about
mobile-centric glitz than of content. I see this same pic layout at the
pic sites for the socially needy communities.

No option to define how many matches to show per page. Yeah, Yippy
found 1,925,021 (sometimes 2,794,021) matches on "regular expressions
pcre", but what boob is going to review all of those. If I don't see
one, or more, relevant articles in the first 50 hits then I'm not
wasting my time looking at the other less-relevant or not-at-all
relevant hits.

With Google, I can decide to enable/disable safe search. No choice with
Yippy where safe mode (censoring) is always on. That's why some reviews
by teacher and parent groups like Yippy. Sorry, we're adults here, and
adults will make their own choices, not childish censoring by the site.

For some URLs shown in the search results, what does " - Yippy Index V"
mean that is appended to the URL line and shown as plain text?

Yippy has hyperlinks named Sources, Sites, Time, and Topics in the
left-side column. None of them work. Each reports "Expired Results.
The results set that you were browsing has expired. Please go back and
try your query again." Why would search results have metadata that
expires at all? Refreshing the results page still has those hyperlinks
go to the Expired notification page. Instead I have to redo the same
search by clicking on the Search button. Why should I have to specify
those criteria AFTER the search and within some limited time? Plus
their search modifiers are limited. For Time, all you get are the past
3 days, 7 days, 30 days, and 90 days. No last year or custom range (to
go back MANY years, like search between 1/1/2000 and 1/1/2001).

On a search of "regular expressions pcre", Google has 182,000 hits.
Yippy gets 1,925,021 hits. More is NOT better. This mean Yippy doesn't
know how to find relevant hits, and just splatters everything at you.
Bing has 913,000 hits. No one is going to waste their time looking at
more than a hundred results. The farther down the search results, the
more off-topic are the hits.

A search at Yippy takes longer to return a list of results. Could be
due to them puking out millions of irrelevant results. Clustering does
not atone for lack of relevance. Yippy, and beyond just their cloud
search site, like all their other data services and products, is
oriented to businesses that have internal and specific data processing
requirements. Yippy survived mostly due to Google sunsetting their GSA
(Google Search Appliance) rack-mounted hardware running CentOS in 2019,
and Yippy sliding in (they had an alternative back to 2016) to fill the
void with their YSA (Yippy Search Appliance). #1 bowed out, so #2 slid
in to become #1.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Search_Appliance


There is too much missing of deficient in Yippy for me to bother even
trialing it beyond my initial review. Yippy has been around since 2000
(as Clusty) at IT of Carnegie Mellon Univ, acquired by IBM, and sold off
to Yippy Inc in 2010 (2012 according to the fiscals), yet almost no one
has heard of it in all that time other than for their other data
services.

If I want my searches kept private, I use Startpage (which used to be
ixquick). That searches using Google but without me connecting to
Google to get the search results. There are others, like DuckDuckGo.
After a handful of the most common search engines, who bothers with the
rest of the miniscule offerings?

There are plenty of well-known and well-established private search
engines. Why do *YOU* prefer Yippy over those? Why did you choose
Yippy over the other private search engines?

[Nicodemus]

al <a...@nospam.net> wrote in news:ru7951$o2b$1...@dont-email.me:

> May not please everyone, but after using Yippy (Yippy, powered by IBM
> Watson) search for the last month, no more Google for me.
> https://www.yippy.com

Thank you for the notice, it was no more google for me a long time now and
welcome any search engine other than google.

I did a quick try and I like it and bookmarked it.

[Nicodemus]

VanguardLH <V...@nguard.LH> wrote in news:13oo8jso...@v.nguard.lh:

> al <a...@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> May not please everyone, but after using Yippy (Yippy, powered by IBM
>> Watson) search for the last month, no more Google for me.
>> https://www.yippy.com

>

> There are plenty of well-known and well-established private search
> engines. Why do *YOU* prefer Yippy over those? Why did you choose
> Yippy over the other private search engines?

Vanguard you sound like a googlemite trying to sell a bad business model
and a collective search engine.

[VanguardLH]

Too lazy to read the whole post where I mentioned I use Startpage, and
others like DuckDuckGo. Yeah, that wouldn't fit into your planned
insult. Typical Nicodem-ass.

[Flasherly]

It doesn't like a TOR configuration and will not do work for people
in, variously, different locations simultaneously, transparently and
without an ulterior motif: Maybe because people can seem here if not
there, or maybe they're just not then valid entries of metadata. Maybe
Yippy has something to translate, or, then again, who cares if IBM is
another connection problem for bricks to build a bigger and better
Wall of WWW.

But, indeed it can feel real bad not to like Google any more, since
Google doesn't like TOR, even if that's OK for some. I just haven't
used Google for the past few years, only if to imagine what's left of
the other 90%, who do, within what a brick or handheld is in a WWW
meaning of brining more bung into "fair" Internet trade. Biden just
issued to a warning to Australia today that you all best not screw
with Google.

[D]

On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 13:41:31 -0500, al <a...@nospam.net> wrote:

It's fast for sure. No doubt everyone will be test-driving Yippy more.
Also, their "Brave" browser is getting recommended by remailer sysops:
https://brave.com

And you gotta love that "Yippy" name, at least, phonetically-speaking:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yippie

Abbot Howard Hoffman was born to John & Florence S. Schanberg-Hoffman
in Worcester (71W47:56,42N16:17), Massachusetts on Monday November 30,
1936.

[Nicodemus]

VanguardLH <V...@nguard.LH> wrote in news:28hpa64...@v.nguard.lh:

Then why post such verbosity to hide your true intention, can we be allies
in this war?

[Shit the Cat]

On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 16:10:27 -0600, VanguardLH <V...@nguard.LH> wrote:

>Too lazy to read the whole post where I mentioned I use Startpage, and
>others like DuckDuckGo. Yeah, that wouldn't fit into your planned
>insult. Typical Nicodem-ass.

Pooh, what's going on? This goonie is posting off topic [since when have
search engines been freeware] and he's quoting the Nic troll.

I dunno what the world is coming to. I really don't.

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[p-0''0-h the cat (coder)]

On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 23:37:19 +0000, Shit the Cat
<super...@IPaddress.invalid> wrote:

>On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 16:10:27 -0600, VanguardLH <V...@nguard.LH> wrote:
>
>>Too lazy to read the whole post where I mentioned I use Startpage, and
>>others like DuckDuckGo. Yeah, that wouldn't fit into your planned
>>insult. Typical Nicodem-ass.
>
>Pooh, what's going on? This goonie is posting off topic [since when have
>search engines been freeware] and he's quoting the Nic troll.
>
>I dunno what the world is coming to. I really don't.

It's the sense of entitlement that irks me Shit.

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[TPayne]

To each his/her own. And God bless those who can make it through your
posts.

[Karen]

Did you not understand the first 4 words "May not please everyone...."
Or do you just get off writing your dribble?

[Flasherly]

On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 07:42:57 -0500, TPayne <tp...@nr.net> wrote:

>To each his/her own. And God bless those who can make it through your
>posts.

I make it through any sear engine except for TOR's added layer of
privacy from metadata and tracking. One factor so-called search
engines may promote if not provide. Although making it through of
course needn't be a sole factor, aside from privacy, to IBM's appeal.
The IBM site doesn't work from my TOR configuration, as do not most.

When all searches stop, including portable browsers batched to erase
all trace between sessions, it might be helpful to switch to
virtualizing from templates of portable operating systems adjusted to
a countermeasure of identity profiles for concealment. What I mean is
would have otherwise checked it out when running "wide-open" a few
moments ago, after all, the WEB wouldn't work without them, except I'd
forgotten the mention since initially trying it on TOR only.

[VanguardLH]

Did you not understand that responses are voluntary?

A person votes about their likes. Another reviews the product and votes
their disappointment. Ah, you don't get to control who posts. Too bad.

[Theo Doolittle]

On 19/01/2021 23:22, D wrote:

>
> And you gotta love that "Yippy" name, at least, phonetically-speaking:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yippie

You do not think it is derivative of 'Yahoo'? Neither very original nor
very clever.

[s|b]

I've been using startpage.com for a long time now. Can't see why I would
change that.

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[Mad Mary]

"p-0''0-h the cat (coder)" <super...@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> wrote in
news:7are0gl97e034ehmn...@4ax.com:

> On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 23:37:19 +0000, Shit the Cat
> <super...@IPaddress.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 16:10:27 -0600, VanguardLH <V...@nguard.LH> wrote:
>>
>>>Too lazy to read the whole post where I mentioned I use Startpage, and
>>>others like DuckDuckGo. Yeah, that wouldn't fit into your planned
>>>insult. Typical Nicodem-ass.
>>
>>Pooh, what's going on? This goonie is posting off topic [since when have
>>search engines been freeware] and he's quoting the Nic troll.
>>
>>I dunno what the world is coming to. I really don't.
>
> It's the sense of entitlement that irks me Shit.

>

Your righteous indignation is noted, yet I find it difficult that your
entitlement is uber the rest of us, ask me what part I play in this drama
or comedy if you prefer, do you feel the urge to cry or laugh, the symptoms
will pass in a moment, and always question the free pass search engine, it
seems that due to the overplofiration of search engines modern day society
wants to know and better understand

[Anonymous]

On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 07:42:57 -0500, you wrote:
>
> On 1/19/2021 5:25 PM, Flasherly wrote:

> > On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 13:41:31 -0500, al <a...@nospam.net> wrote:
> >
> >> May not please everyone, but after using Yippy (Yippy, powered by IBM
> >> Watson) search for the last month, no more Google for me.
> >> https://www.yippy.com
> >

> > It doesn't like a TOR configuration and will not do work for people
> > in, variously, different locations simultaneously, transparently and
> > without an ulterior motif: Maybe because people can seem here if not
> > there, or maybe they're just not then valid entries of metadata. Maybe
> > Yippy has something to translate, or, then again, who cares if IBM is
> > another connection problem for bricks to build a bigger and better
> > Wall of WWW.
> >
> > But, indeed it can feel real bad not to like Google any more, since
> > Google doesn't like TOR, even if that's OK for some. I just haven't
> > used Google for the past few years, only if to imagine what's left of
> > the other 90%, who do, within what a brick or handheld is in a WWW
> > meaning of brining more bung into "fair" Internet trade. Biden just
> > issued to a warning to Australia today that you all best not screw
> > with Google.
> >
>

> To each his/her own. And God bless those who can make it through your
> posts.

It is beyond me why people are ticked at the guy's post. I found it
*really* interesting.

Thanks for the info, VanguardLH.

[Flasherly]

On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 23:16:39 +0100, Anonymous
<anon...@hoi-polloi.org> wrote:

>It is beyond me why people are ticked at the guy's post. I found it
>*really* interesting.

There was freeware project, BlackIce(?), that duplicated the OS in an
insulated virtual OS clone for browser purposes. It eventually closed
down. On their forum, just before it closed, I was reading talk of
having to register with the FBI before downloading the last version. I
never ran with it, nor can I qualify what be an urban FBI legend.
There's also (among similar alternatives) a *NIX distribution based
around the TOR project and privacy concerns;- I shouldn't think one
needs register a freeware unix-derivative, to download and run it,
first with FBI either. At least not yet.

[D]

On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 20:04:54 +0100, Theo Doolittle <Theo.Do...@home.nowhere> wrote:
>On 19/01/2021 23:22, D wrote:
>>
>> And you gotta love that "Yippy" name, at least, phonetically-speaking:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yippie
>
>You do not think it is derivative of 'Yahoo'?

Yes, that is correct. "Yippy" sounds exactly like "Yippie".
"Yippy" also sounds exactly like the cowbow slang "yippee",
as followed by "yeehaw", "yahoo", "whoopee", and the like.

DuckDuckGo search and Pale Moon browser is what I'm using,
but recently even remailer sysops are recommending "Brave"
browser https://brave.com on news:alt.privacy.anon-server.

[John C.]

I just scoped out the Brave homepage:

https://brave.com/

The website seems to be entirely about advertising and money making.
It's rife with huge amounts of FUD and provides almost no information
about the browser itself other than that it's supposed to be "privacy
oriented" and "fast". Where are the screenshots demonstrating the UI?
Does the program update automatically like Chrome?

Even the Wikipedia article on the browser:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_(web_browser)

seems to be entirely about the profit making intent of the program. The
"Other features" section there says (and this is a direct copy and paste):
________________________________________________________________________

Other features
[icon]
This section needs expansion. You can help by adding to it. (January 2021)

BitTorrent (through WebTorrent),
InterPlanetary File System (IPFS).
________________________________________________________________________

The "Critical reception" section there says:

"In January 2016, in reaction to Brave Software's initial announcement,
Sebastian Anthony of Ars Technica described Brave as a "cash-grab" and a
"double dip"."

I agree. Brave appears to just be a huge scam to get people to accept
advertising and about profit. Also, since it's based on Chromium, I know
that the UI will completely suck.

I'll continue to pass on this one.

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newsgroup at a time) messages. I recommend you do likewise.

[occam]

I use 'Epic' (https://www.epicbrowser.com/), which has a built-in VPN. I
am not sure who/what remailer sysops is (or does), but remailing (like
re-Tweeting) sounds like a Trumpish thing to do.

[D]

Anonymous remailer system operator, "sys-op". Long-time subscribers
to a.p.a-s have learned much about the subject from sysops who post
there. Unmoderated Usenet newsgroups is the forum of choice. Social
media is moderated, pseudonymous, controlled by government, subject
to censorship, and undesirable...politics is for lawyers, not plebs.

[D]

Before Pale Moon, I was using IE11. But I've never used web browsers
with expectation of anonymity or features beyond conducting research.
Remailer sysops tend to know a lot more about privacy, security, etc.
Wikipedia has proven very useful in some ways, but in other ways mis-
leading, ill-informed, government propaganda, censored by moderators,
caveat emptor. "Never trust a man in a suit"

[John C.]

Biggest problem with Wikipedia is when an article is obviously written
by somebody connected with what it's about. Wikipedia tends to vet that
kind of stuff as much as possible and to point out when an article has
that problem, but they don't (and obviously can't) always catch it.

I'm thinking that this is the problem with the Wikipedia article about
the Brave browser, but even if it is, it's just further proof that my
suspicion about Brave being just a scam is true.

[John C.]

Pooh (for example) has always used a remailer (mixmin) to maintain
anonymity.

Read about them here:

https://www.easytechjunkie.com/what-is-an-anonymous-remailer.htm

But surely you already know about the topic.

[Nicodemus]

"John C." <r9j...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:rucd93$1b9$2...@dont-email.me:

More likely who cares.

[p-0''0-h the cat (coder)]

On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 09:22:41 -0800, "John C." <r9j...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Pooh (for example) has always used a remailer (mixmin) to maintain
>anonymity.

If you see a cat, chillin', grazing on a bunch of catnip, at night, and
he's wearing sunglasses. It ain't me babe.