what programs do you use?
Dave
programs do you guys for the following things:
Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
Email client?
FTP Sever software?
Download Manager?
Firewall?
Zip/Rar utility?
Harvey V
> I'm trying to find some alternative programs that I can use. So what
> programs do you guys for the following things:
>
> Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
Xnews. (free)
> Email client?
PocoMail (not free)
> FTP Sever software?
don't use
> Download Manager?
don't use (cable modem; haven't felt any need for a download manager)
> Firewall?
Zone Alarm Free (standalone PC, so I've not seen the point of ZAPro)
> Zip/Rar utility?
WinZip, if that's what you mean -- the word "Rar" is Swahili to me.
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Graham
> I'm trying to find some alternative programs that I can use. So what
> programs do you guys for the following things:
> Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
Dialog, previously Xnews...it's a tough choice.
> Email client?
The Bat (not free)
> FTP Sever software?
Smart FTP
> Download Manager?
Star Downloader
> Firewall?
Zone Alarm
> Zip/Rar utility?
Ultimate Zip
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R.L.
@news3.calgary.shaw.ca:
> I'm trying to find some alternative programs that I can use. So what
> programs do you guys for the following things:
>
> Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
> Email client?
Pimmy
> FTP Sever software?
NOt use
> Download Manager?
Star downloader, but not often use.
> Firewall?
Kerio free personal
> Zip/Rar utility?
WinIMP (like it to allow subdirectory view within zip folder)
RL
Iain Cheyne
@news3.calgary.shaw.ca:
> Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
Xnews
> Download Manager?
Download Express
> Firewall?
Kerio
> Zip/Rar utility?
ZipGenius
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Henk de Jong
news:UvFs9.543242$v53.22...@news3.calgary.shaw.ca:
> I'm trying to find some alternative programs that I can use. So what
> programs do you guys for the following things:
>
> Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
XNews
> Email client?
Outlook Express
> FTP Sever software?
WS-FTP LE
> Download Manager?
Download Express
> Firewall?
ZoneAlarm
> Zip/Rar utility?
UltamiteZip
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Steve H
>I'm trying to find some alternative programs that I can use. So what
>programs do you guys for the following things:
>
>Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
None freeware, though previously Forte FreeAgent
>Email client?
Pegasus ( V3.12c - V4x still needs work )
>Firewall?
Zonealarm ( V2.6.357 )
>Zip/Rar utility?
Skinny Zipper ( I only ever unzip, have no need for archiving )
Regards,
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Email: anyoldname(*AT*)gmx(*dot*)co(*dot*)uk
Blinky the Shark
> I'm trying to find some alternative programs that I can use. So what
> programs do you guys for the following things:
>
> Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
slrn/Knode/Sylpheed/Xnews
> Email client?
KMail/PegasusMail
> FTP Sever software?
No server. Client: gFTP/LeechFTP
> Download Manager?
My browser does resumes. But once in a while DLExpert.
> Firewall?
Kerio2
> Zip/Rar utility?
ark/None in Windows.
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Dan Goodman
> I'm trying to find some alternative programs that I can use. So what
> programs do you guys for the following things:
>
> Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
Xnews
> Email client?
Pegasus Mail
> FTP Sever software?
None
> Download Manager?
the one which comes with Phoenix
> Firewall?
Currently, none; this computer is new, and I haven't finished equipping it
with software
> Zip/Rar utility?
UltimateZip.
Uncle Fred
tr...@rediffmail.com says...
> I'm trying to find some alternative programs that I can use. So what
> programs do you guys for the following things:
>
> Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
I use Gravity. I think it does download binaries, but I've
never used that feature. It doesn't hurt anything. My only problem
now is that I've clicked the option that "shows full headers,"
and I can't turn it back. I've done all this before without
trouble, but this time the option just disappeared.
> Email client?
Using Pegasus, but I'm soon going to experiment with
Foxmail. Pegasus has an addon for "Multipop," but it's cumbersome,
(the addon, I mean), and I'm suspicious that it's lost a message
for me.
> FTP Sever software?
Just switched from WS-FTP which I liked, to Filezilla which
I like even better, (so far). [Now if I could only remember the
starting directory for my old website.(:-()]
> Download Manager?
DL Expert. Sometimes cantankerous, but the problem may be
elsewhere on my system, or on the net. Don't really know of
anything better.
> Firewall?
Zone alarm. Yes, maybe some can get around it, but they're
doing it awfully quietly if they are.
> Zip/Rar utility?
Winimp. It works and it doesn't give me any problems. I
love the bit where I can be in Windows Explorer and right click on
a zip file and I get an "expand here" option. One right click and
one left click and the whole operation's done. Super. That's
performance.
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Uncle Fred
fred.will...@sympatico.ca says...
> In article <UvFs9.543242$v53.22...@news3.calgary.shaw.ca>,
> tr...@rediffmail.com says...
> > I'm trying to find some alternative programs that I can use. So what
> > programs do you guys for the following things:
> >
> > Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
>
> I use Gravity. I think it does download binaries, but I've
> never used that feature. It doesn't hurt anything. My only problem
> now is that I've clicked the option that "shows full headers,"
> and I can't turn it back. I've done all this before without
> trouble, but this time the option just disappeared.
It's OK. Please don't bother to respond. I found it in the
help file. It's the "h" key. Who'd have thought of using there
keyboard? (;-))
When all else fails, read the manual!
sis...@netaxs.com
> what programs do you guys for the following things:
>
> Newsgroup Reader
Xnews
> Email client?
Pegasus
> Zip/Rar utility?
Zipcentral
msd
>I'm trying to find some alternative programs that I can use. So what
>programs do you guys for the following things:
For windows ? If not you're mostly out of luck.
>Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
Not free, Agent, also use Google groups
>Email client?
Not free, evaluating TheBat!,
may return to Pegasus (free) in near future.
>FTP Sever software?
Not installed currently, Xitami I like a lot even
if it not the most used friendly gui it is reliable.
>Download Manager?
Star Downloader, prefer GetRight but not free.
Installed but unused as yet.
>Firewall?
Tiny (no longer free).
>Zip/Rar utility?
Dos box & command line tools, at the mo !
If you havn't seen the pricelessware page,
http://www.pricelessware.org/
take a look there for some of the best freeware
as chosen by people who have posted and
voted here before. One of my favorites.
Tramp
|programs do you guys for the following things:
|
|Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
Gravity
|Email client?
I use Ghost Mail for sending mail. I don't really have a need for a full
on email client.
|FTP Sever software?
GuildFTP and TYPSoft FTP depending on the need.
|Download Manager?
Internet Explorer. sometimes I will use DLExpert
|Firewall?
Zone Alarm
|Zip/Rar utility?
I use the compression system that came with Windows ME for zip files and
Power Archiver for the rest of the stuff.
Jim @ UsableFreeware.com
Dave <tr...@rediffmail.com> babbled incoherently:
> I'm trying to find some alternative programs that I can use. So what
> programs do you guys for the following things:
>
> Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
http://xnews.newsguy.com
> Email client?
Outlook Express.
> FTP Sever software?
CesarFTP: www.cesarftp.com
> Download Manager?
Star Downloader: www.stardownloader.com
> Firewall?
Commercial Linux-based Firewall Blade: www.netmaster.com (NOT Freeware).
> Zip/Rar utility?
UltimateZip, though I use the built-in WinXP handling of zip files:
www.ultimatezip.com
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mike555
> I'm trying to find some alternative programs that I can use. So what
> programs do you guys for the following things:
>
>
Pegasus
> FTP Sever software?
none
> Download Manager?
Download Express
> Firewall?
ZoneAlarm
> Zip/Rar utility?
Eagle Eye
> programs do you guys for the following things:
>
> Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
> Email client?
Outlook Express 6.0 SP1. You should update your version (6.0) to 6.0 SP1 as
it now offers ability to delete individual messages from your computer, and
set OE to read all mail/news in plain text. I have used Calypso and Foxmail
but always seem to come back to OE.
> FTP Sever software?
Smart FTP. (www.smartftp.com)
> Download Manager?
I don't use one.
> Firewall?
Kerio Personal Firewall (http://www.kerio.com/us/kpf_home.html)
> Zip/Rar utility?
Antoine
> I'm trying to find some alternative programs that I can use. So what
> programs do you guys for the following things:
>
> Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
> Email client?
Mail Warrior || Mozilla's integrated email client
> FTP Sever software?
Cerberus (not used often)
> Download Manager?
LeechGet
> Firewall?
Agnitum Outpost Firewall
> Zip/Rar utility?
Not freeware
--
Antoine
Henry The Mole
In data Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:47:32 GMT hai scritto :
> I'm trying to find some alternative programs that I can use. So
> what
> programs do you guys for the following things:
> Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download
> binaries)?
Outlook Express + FidoLook SL
> Email client?
Outlook Express or Foxmail
> FTP Sever software?
None.
> Download Manager?
DLExpert
> Firewall?
Kerio Personal Firewall
> Zip/Rar utility?
ZipGenius or UltimateZip.
Best regards.
--
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Jim Scott
news:GOTs9.58856$%M1.15...@twister2.libero.it:
> Ciao, Dave!
> In data Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:47:32 GMT hai scritto :
>
> > I'm trying to find some alternative programs that I can use. So
>> what
>> programs do you guys for the following things:
>
>> Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download
>> binaries)?
>
Xnews
>
>> Email client?
>
Outlook Express with OE-Quotefix
>
>> FTP Sever software?
>
> None.
>
>> Download Manager?
>
Download Accelerator Plus (with the spybots removed by Spybot S & D)
>
>> Firewall?
>
Agnetum Outpost
>
>> Zip/Rar utility?
>
Winzip
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Tiger
news:UvFs9.543242$v53.22...@news3.calgary.shaw.ca:
> I'm trying to find some alternative programs that I can use. So
> what programs do you guys for the following things:
>
> Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download
> binaries)?
Windows - Xnews, Linux - Knode
> Email client?
Windows - Calypso, Linux - Kmail
> FTP Sever software?
Windows - Filezilla, Linux - none yet.
> Download Manager?
None (I have cable and the download managers on my browsers work
fine)
> Firewall?
Windows - Kerio, Linux - IP chains
> Zip/Rar utility?
Windows - Ultimate Zip, Linux - Gozip
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Mel
> Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
> Email client?
still using outlook Express
> FTP Sever software?
Smart FTP
> Download Manager?
Tried loads (I used to have an unreliable ISP) either spyware or buggy.
DLExpert is my favourite as it's never munged a file & stardownloader seems
ok but I haven't used it much.
I occassionaly use HTTP Zip Dowloader (when I don't want to download a
whole zipfile) http://203.157.250.93/win32asm/source0.html .
> Firewall?
Zonealarm 3.1.291 ( the newer version tries to connect to the internet as
soon as I ran it)
Sometimes use Kerio
> Zip/Rar utility?
powerarchiver, but I'm going to give ultimate zip a go.
Rik
scribbled:
>On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:47:32 GMT, "Dave" <tr...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
>
>I'm trying to find some alternative programs that I can use. So what
>programs do you guys for the following things:
>
>
>Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
Forte Agent
>
>Email client?
FoxMail 4.2 (best I've seen)
>
>FTP Sever software?
WS_FTP
>
>Download Manager?
DL Accelerator
>
>Firewall?
OutPost (Free)
>
>Zip/Rar utility?
WinZip
Stefan Ascher
OK, here is my list :-):
> Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
(Super) Gravity
> Email client?
Calypso
> FTP Sever software?
CesarFTP (I need it only for testing)
> Download Manager?
Star Downloader (but usually an OT program)
> Firewall?
Tiny Personal Firewall
> Zip/Rar utility?
7-Zip
Blinky the Shark
> "Dave" <tr...@rediffmail.com> wrote in
> news:UvFs9.543242$v53.22...@news3.calgary.shaw.ca:
>
> > I'm trying to find some alternative programs that I can use. So
> > what programs do you guys for the following things:
> >
> > Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download
> > binaries)?
>
> Windows - Xnews, Linux - Knode
Hey, have you looked at the appropriately-Tiger-named Sylpheed-claws?
Been playing with it more, lately, having installed it a month or so
ago.
Does X-Faces.
Until I pretty much settled in on slrn, I was doing Knode -- it was
here, and a quick setup with no real learning curve, which is hardly the
case with slrn. These, and others <g>, are all still available at a
click, of course.
When I was trying to get X-Face *sending* to work with slrn (background:
turns out there are some characters within the encoded header that need
to be *escaped*), it was frustrating to have to send to alt.test, then
boot into Windows to look at the result with Xnews. That makes for
slooooow testing.
<D'oh!>
Realized this weekend that I had Sylpheed installed during that whole
process, and didn't realize it would display X-Faces.
</D'oh!>
> > FTP Sever software?
>
> Windows - Filezilla, Linux - none yet.
Linux - FTP client?
gFTP, here. Unlike my old Win standby, LeechFTP, this one autorefreshes
the remote on a transfer. Unfortunately, for some reason, that takes
*longer* than clicking Refresh in LeechFTP. John Corliss would get a
kick out of that part, since he was frustrated by the need to click
Refresh to get a non-cached ls with LeechFTP. :)
> Windows - Ultimate Zip, Linux - Gozip
Gozip, eh? Will explore. I've not looked beyond the ark util that Mdk
install loaded.
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dove into the melee, yelling something about:
> "Dave" <tr...@rediffmail.com> wrote in news:UvFs9.543242$v53.22908779
> @news3.calgary.shaw.ca:
>
>> Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
> Xnews
>
>> Download Manager?
> Download Express
>
>> Firewall?
> Kerio
>
>> Zip/Rar utility?
> ZipGenius
>
Almost a complete match. I still use PowerArchiver (the last freeware
edition)
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Tiger
news:20021021151924....@box.invalid:
> Tiger <j...@yourclothes.sc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> "Dave" <tr...@rediffmail.com> wrote in
>> news:UvFs9.543242$v53.22...@news3.calgary.shaw.ca:
>>
>> > I'm trying to find some alternative programs that I can use.
>> > So what programs do you guys for the following things:
>> >
>> > Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download
>> > binaries)?
>>
>> Windows - Xnews, Linux - Knode
>
> Hey, have you looked at the appropriately-Tiger-named
> Sylpheed-claws?
>
Actually, I haven't played around in Linux for a while. Still need
to burn my iso's for Mdk 9.0 and upgrade. Just been doing the
Windows thing for a while.
I'll check out Sylpheed.
>
>> > FTP Sever software?
>>
>> Windows - Filezilla, Linux - none yet.
>
> Linux - FTP client?
>
> gFTP, here. Unlike my old Win standby, LeechFTP, this one
> autorefreshes the remote on a transfer. Unfortunately, for some
> reason, that takes *longer* than clicking Refresh in LeechFTP.
> John Corliss would get a kick out of that part, since he was
> frustrated by the need to click Refresh to get a non-cached ls
> with LeechFTP. :)
I have gftp, but haven't used it yet.
>
>> Windows - Ultimate Zip, Linux - Gozip
>
> Gozip, eh? Will explore. I've not looked beyond the ark util
> that Mdk install loaded.
>
Sorry, should've been Gnozip...the default archiver for Gnome.
Kevin Davisł
>I'm trying to find some alternative programs that I can use. So what
>programs do you guys for the following things:
>
>Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
Not freeware (see header) but if I did use a freeware one, it
definitely would be Free Agent or possibly Gravity
>Email client?
Probably not considered freeware: Outlook Express
>FTP Sever software?
The only one I could seem to get to work halfway decent was Cerberus
and even that was a little flakey.
>Download Manager?
Personally don't use one nor see any value (for me) to do so.
>Firewall?
On one machine I use Outpost, on two others Tiny (only because I
haven't gotten around to updating them yet), on another Kerio.
>Zip/Rar utility?
Not freeware on my main system but use UltimateZip on others.
---------------------------------------
What could possibly go wrong?
Blinky the Shark
> Blinky the Shark <no....@box.invalid> wrote in
>> Hey, have you looked at the appropriately-Tiger-named
>> Sylpheed-claws?
>>
> Actually, I haven't played around in Linux for a while. Still need
> to burn my iso's for Mdk 9.0 and upgrade. Just been doing the
> Windows thing for a while.
Hadn't noticed that.
> I'll check out Sylpheed.
It seems to be Yer Basic Client. Can't say it offers anything of
particular note, except for the X-Face capability. It's fairly
tweakable. Of course, it's not Xnews.
>>> Windows - Ultimate Zip, Linux - Gozip
>>
>> Gozip, eh? Will explore. I've not looked beyond the ark util
>> that Mdk install loaded.
>>
> Sorry, should've been Gnozip...the default archiver for Gnome.
'Kay. Probably have it. <clickety> Yep, in the distro.
--
Blinky
Blinky the Shark
>
>
>> Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
>> Email client?
> still using outlook Express
>
>> FTP Sever software?
>
> Smart FTP
They have a server, now?
>> Download Manager?
>
> Tried loads (I used to have an unreliable ISP) either spyware or
> buggy.
>
> DLExpert is my favourite as it's never munged a file & stardownloader
> seems ok but I haven't used it much.
I rarely use it, but of the usual suspects (Star, Smart, Fresh...) it's
the one I kept. Browser integration on all of them seems to be iffy (if
you're not using IE, anyway, which would be me) even where claimed.
> I occassionaly use HTTP Zip Dowloader (when I don't want to download
> a whole zipfile) http://203.157.250.93/win32asm/source0.html .
>
>> Firewall?
>
> Zonealarm 3.1.291 ( the newer version tries to connect to the internet
> as soon as I ran it) Sometimes use Kerio
Have seen that discussed. Ask here (search first) at Gibson:
news:news.grc.corp
Try grc.security or grc.security.software
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Jim @ UsableFreeware.com
Blinky the Shark <angels.ra...@box.invalid> babbled incoherently:
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:35:47 +0100, Mel wrote:
>>> FTP Sever software?
>> Smart FTP
>
> They have a server, now?
It's called NoName FTP Server now:
http://www.8ung.at/mindstorm-net
(http://www.mindstorm-networks.de/ seems to be down)
Spacey Spade
> programs do you guys for the following things:
>
Trying out Gravity... how do you get it to show a thread like Google?
I guess I'll read the manual eventually, but I wanted to post NOW
(google groups)!
> Email client?
Phoenix Mail or Roundabout, both from SourceForge.
> FTP Sever software?
no "sever" software -> client... LeechFTP
> Download Manager?
Spyware: keygened Go!Zilla v3.5. I can't help it I like the pretty
graphics and sounds effects. Have cable i-net... no need now. Have
used it to download Linux distros though. Slackware or Debian.
> Firewall?
Hardware: router. Won't happen to me attitude. No antivirus either.
Got Chernobyl once, but a week before payload my ear itched so I went
over to housecall.antivirus.com and cleaned out the sucka
> Zip/Rar utility?
Not free. ZipMagic 98: WinImp built into windows explorer(98se). May
switch to WinImp eventually.
aka. S -. H - U -. A - B -. A - M ...yep, is me, the goon isself
florent x
will try Xnews soon
> Email client?
Outlook Express
> FTP Sever software?
SlimFTPd http://www.whitsoftdev.com/slimftpd/
> Download Manager?
Download Express + StarDownloader
> Firewall? >> not yet
> Zip/Rar utility?
7-zip + IceOWS
( http://www.7-zip.org/ and http://www.iceows.com/ )
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Blinky the Shark
> In news:ap294...@enews4.newsguy.com, Blinky the Shark
> <angels.ra...@box.invalid> babbled incoherently:
>> On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:35:47 +0100, Mel wrote:
>>>> FTP Sever software?
>>> Smart FTP
>>
>> They have a server, now?
>
> It's called NoName FTP Server now: http://www.8ung.at/mindstorm-net
> (http://www.mindstorm-networks.de/ seems to be down)
There's even a naming contest going on:
<q>
But due the fact the "Developers of SmartFTP" don't want to provide the
name SmartFTP for this project anymore ( http://daemon.smartftp.com ) we
will change the name of our FTP Server. For this reason we want you to
mail us your ideas about how to name it for future.
</q>
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Tweetie Pooh
09:47:32p with news:UvFs9.543242$v53.22...@news3.calgary.shaw.ca:
> I'm trying to find some alternative programs that I can use. So what
> programs do you guys for the following things:
>
> Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
XNews
> Email client?
Outlook (not free)
> FTP Sever software?
ftpd (comes with Solaris so not really free)
> Download Manager?
Download express
> Firewall?
Hardware (PIX and FW1)
> Zip/Rar utility?
Winzip (not free)
or tar/gzip which is.
>
>
>
Iain Cheyne
> Almost a complete match. I still use PowerArchiver (the last freeware
> edition)
You've got good taste.
:o)
Definitely try ZipGenius, it's a cut above every other zipper I've tried.
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Uncle Fred
spac...@hotpop.com says...
> "Dave" <tr...@rediffmail.com> wrote in message news:<UvFs9.543242$v53.22...@news3.calgary.shaw.ca>...
> > I'm trying to find some alternative programs that I can use. So what
> > programs do you guys for the following things:
> >
> > Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
>
> Trying out Gravity... how do you get it to show a thread like Google?
> I guess I'll read the manual eventually, but I wanted to post NOW
> (google groups)!
>
At the left of my "Thread pane" I have the tree structure.
On top of that is a box with a black triangle pointing right. If
you have the same, you should be able to click in that box with the
triangle to toggle the option. Is that what you're asking about?
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Please remove *four* F's to reply by email.
Thorsten Duhn
> Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
Mozilla
> Email client?
Mozilla
> FTP Sever software?
GuildFTPd
As client: Leech/SmartFTP
> Download Manager?
ReGet (not free)
would use StarDL as free alternative
> Firewall?
Outpost (not often)
> Zip/Rar utility?
FilZip (not totally satified, willing to try another)
Regards,
Thorsten
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Blinky the Shark
I've never used Gravity, but lemme make a wild guess, here: that expands
all threads. How am I doing, so far? If I'm wrong, stop reading. :)
What he wants is not a threaded view, but *all of the posts in a thread*
laid out *end-to-end* like if you took a bunch of printed pages and put
lined them up in a vertical row on your floor. Kind of a roll of toilet
paper with a lot of printing on it.
--
Blinky
Spacey Spade
>What he wants is not a threaded view, but *all of the posts in a thread*
>laid out *end-to-end* like if you took a bunch of printed pages and put
>lined them up in a vertical row on your floor. Kind of a roll of toilet
>paper with a lot of printing on it.
Sweet Blinky... there used to be a company that produced toilet dispensers that
dispensed toilet paper one sheet at a time. I think the company folded.
Anyhoo, you're the only one that understands! <G>
I had even made a new post for this... search: "google-like newsreader"
So many newsreaders!: http://www.newsreaders.com click on windows, click on
clients
Elly Byrne
Paul Blarmy <foxe...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:47:32 GMT, Dave wrote...
>
>> I'm trying to find some alternative programs that I can use. So what
>> programs do you guys for the following things:
>>
>> Newsgroup Reader
>Microplanet Gravity (FREE)
>
>> Email client?
>Calypso (FREE and the best IMHO)
>
>> FTP Sever software?
>WS-FTP (FREE)
>WebPublisher (free from CD)
>
>> Download Manager?
>GetRight (Paid for)
>
>> Firewall?
>Just dumped Sygate (FREE) and about to try Kerio (FREE)
>
>> Zip/Rar utility?
>PowerArchiver 2001 v6.1.1 (FREE)
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W
> I've never used Gravity
Oh, yes you have. You use it everyday. But don't let it bring you down.
--
Jonathan (who rarely feels the gravity of the situation...;-)
Blinky the Shark
>
> >What he wants is not a threaded view, but *all of the posts in a thread*
> >laid out *end-to-end* like if you took a bunch of printed pages and put
> >lined them up in a vertical row on your floor. Kind of a roll of toilet
> >paper with a lot of printing on it.
>
> Sweet Blinky... there used to be a company that produced toilet dispensers that
> dispensed toilet paper one sheet at a time. I think the company folded.
I'm referring to the common dispensage roll, of course, with which I
figure many are familiar. :)
> Anyhoo, you're the only one that understands! <G>
Yeah, I've been exposed to clunky web interfaces, before. ;)
--
Blinky
Blinky the Shark
> Blinky the Shark <angels.ra...@box.invalid> surveyed the damage,
> then, boldy dove into the melee, yelling something about:
>
>> I've never used Gravity
>
> Oh, yes you have. You use it everyday. But don't let it bring you down.
--
Blinky
Tone Marie Berg
> Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
Xnews.
> FTP Sever software?
GuildFTP.
> Download Manager?
wGet.
> Firewall?
I don't buy into the firewall propaganda. I really don't need that
junk.
Tone
--
You are forgiven, child.
PP
> Newsgroup Reader(don't need a program that will download binaries)?
> Email client?
Outlook Express 6
> FTP Sever software?
FileZilla Server (CesarFTP in more serious cases)
> Download Manager?
DownloadExpress 1.3
> Firewall?
Kerio PF2
> Zip/Rar utility?
IZArc 3.1.6 (after UltimateZip started nagging)
--
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rdh
<ne...@zicon.cjb.net> wrote:
>> Firewall?
>
>I don't buy into the firewall propaganda. I really don't need that
>junk.
Hmmm... what was your IP address again?
--
Russell rdh at myrealbox dot com
Tone Marie Berg
news:3dbf6015....@news.al.comcast.giganews.com:
> On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:43:38 +0200, Tone Marie Berg
> <ne...@zicon.cjb.net> wrote:
>
>> I don't buy into the firewall propaganda. I really don't need that
>> junk.
>
> Hmmm... what was your IP address again?
It's all in the headers. Have fun. Post a message for me in one of the
internal groups if you get into my Hamster, willya? And do treat
yourself properly on the FTP. You can probably get in through the web
server, no way in fscking hell that one's tight. They're all on the
default ports; a big bad cracker boy like you should have no problems
at all. See ya!
Tone
--
I know what boys like.
Spacey Spade
says...
>It's all in the headers. Have fun. Post a message for me in one of the
>internal groups if you get into my Hamster, willya? And do treat
>yourself properly on the FTP. You can probably get in through the web
>server, no way in fscking hell that one's tight. They're all on the
>default ports; a big bad cracker boy like you should have no problems
>at all. See ya!
Correction: it should read "big bad hacker boy". Crackers crack software
protection. Hackers can make there way into computer systems.
Now that you are enlightened you can pray to the cracker and hacker gods
correctly.
Rune Kristian Viken
Spacey Spade <spac...@hotpop.extra.com> wrote:
>> It's all in the headers. Have fun. Post a message for me in one of the
>> internal groups if you get into my Hamster, willya? And do treat
>> yourself properly on the FTP. You can probably get in through the web
>> server, no way in fscking hell that one's tight. They're all on the
>> default ports; a big bad cracker boy like you should have no problems
>> at all. See ya!
> Correction: it should read "big bad hacker boy". Crackers crack software
> protection. Hackers can make there way into computer systems.
Wrong.
Hacker = Very skilled programmer / one that knows his computer system
very well. Its a title of honor. Also used about a group of people
spreading "mischief" at MIT. (hacks.mit.edu).
See the Jargon file for correct definitions:
http://tuxedo.org/jargon/html/entry/hacker.html
and
http://tuxedo.org/jargon/html/entry/cracker.html
Thank you for playing.
> Now that you are enlightened you can pray to the cracker and hacker gods
> correctly.
And now that you are enlightened about the new hackers dictionar / the
jargon file, you should bow down before its might and read through
it.
--
Rune Kristian Viken
Free online encyclopedia: http://www.wikipedia.com/
Brainbuster
> programs do you guys for the following things:
>
OE6
> Email client?
OE6
I have downloaded "Incredimail" (free) from Bravenet and will try it.
> FTP Sever software?
FTP... comes with Netscape on the free disks found in shops in the UK.
You can view both local and remote as folders and files, with drag and drop,
right click menus, etc.
I use this to upload to sites and to download from FTP sites.
> Firewall?
Zone Alarm (free version).
Have downloaded "Outpost", and trying it out.
> Zip/Rar utility?
Winzip (not free) on this PC.
PKzip (free for personal use) on the other computers.
ARJ for DOS systems.
Regards,
Peter.
Spacey Spade
says...
>On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 04:29:30 GMT, rdh <h...@moc.xoblaerym> wrote:
>>>> Firewall?
>>> I don't buy into the firewall propaganda. I really don't need that
>>> junk.
>> Hmmm... what was your IP address again?
>
>
>Personal Firewalls is an overhyped product which really isn't
>necessary if you know what daemons your computer is running. Which
>you can get a list of by running netstat, or portscanning your
>computer with nmap.
>
>First of all, outgoing connections can be made through already
>"accepted" programs, such as internet explorer, thus bypassing
>that "protection" entirely. Incoming connections are irrelevant,
>except if you've got services listening that you're not aware of.
>
>In addition, running a personal firewall actually _increases_
>your vulnerability, check this URL out, for example:
>
><URL: http://www.iss.net/security_center/static/8058.php>
>
>Of course, this is an old vulnerability, but it describes the
>problem quite well. Additional code adds additional complexity,
>which again means that more lines of code may contain
>vulnerabilities you can be cracked through.
>
>
>Firewalls protecting entire networks are of course a totally
>different matter, its "personal firewalls" that is just a waste
>of disk space, cpu cycles and so forth.
I agree with you on this. I would also say the same about RAM memory
managers.
[OT]:
As for your other post, I stand corrected on the definitions of
hacker/cracker. Though I knew the def. for hacker (I said "hackers CAN
break into..." intentionally), I now know that software crackers are a
subset of crackers. I had come to think of the malicious ones as black hat
hackers.
I had read the def. of hacker before, but it was good to be refreshed. If
you want to discuss this further please respond to my email.