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Global Warming
The Jew, Muslim and Christian all will face their unknowns, as every
breathing creature, they will join and become part of this wonder.
Mike Dee
Nothing on topic.
First time I've seen someone respond to a sporger's post as if it was
an actual troll.
--
dee
Nicolaas Hawkins
in <news:Xns99948ECB1...@203.26.24.228>:
Bear in mind whom you are talking about. Then you may understand.
--
Nicolaas.
... Be who you are, and say what you feel. Those who mind don't matter,
and those who matter don't mind.
Kat Mandu
Global Warming and this sporger talk the same language ;-)
John Corliss
>> She wants to try official manufactures up Feyd's pen.
>>
>> He may much depart vital and arrives our interim, hon proceeds
>> since a championship.
>>
>
> The Jew, Muslim and Christian all will face their unknowns, as every
> breathing creature, they will join and become part of this wonder.
PLEASE don't repost hipcrime posts. My newsfeed filters them all out,
AND, replying to them is a total waste of your time.
--
John Corliss BS206. I try not to reply to trolls like Andy Mabbett,
Hummingbird or proteanthread.
Due to all the spam coming from that service, I use NFilter to block
all Google Groups posts from being displayed in my news reader.
No ad, cd, commercial, cripple, demo, NAGWARE, share, spy,
time-limited, trial or web wares or warez for me, please.
Global Warming
>>> She wants to try official manufactures up Feyd's pen.
>>>
>>> He may much depart vital and arrives our interim, hon proceeds
>>> since a championship.
>>>
>>> (big snip)
>>
>> The Jew, Muslim and Christian all will face their unknowns, as every
>> breathing creature, they will join and become part of this wonder.
>
> PLEASE don't repost hipcrime posts. My newsfeed filters them all out,
> AND, replying to them is a total waste of your time.
>
Sorry John, what in the hell is "hipcrime", still working on them headers,
when I googled nfilter the link I found had 2 progs, both would not work
here in xpland, when I ggooled newsproxy, I found a shareware 30 day limit,
as for posting behind that sporge, I thought it was a comfortable place to
explore my thoughts and feelings, since no body bothers to look behind
those empty wastes of bandwidth.
Kat Mandu
At least not until you started answering them ;-)
John Corliss
>> Global Warming wrote:
>>>> She wants to try official manufactures up Feyd's pen.
>>>>
>>>> He may much depart vital and arrives our interim, hon proceeds
>>>> since a championship.
>>>>
>>>> (big snip)
>>> The Jew, Muslim and Christian all will face their unknowns, as every
>>> breathing creature, they will join and become part of this wonder.
>> PLEASE don't repost hipcrime posts. My newsfeed filters them all out,
>> AND, replying to them is a total waste of your time.
>>
>
> Sorry John, what in the hell is "hipcrime",
Hipcrime is described here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipcrime_(Usenet)
> still working on them headers,
> when I googled nfilter the link I found had 2 progs, both would not work
> here in xpland, when I ggooled newsproxy, I found a shareware 30 day limit
It's not shareware. It's freeware:
Unfortunately, there seems to be some identity crisis the program has
due to its development history. If you download the program from this
site's link"
http://www.nfilter.org/download.html
(version 1.2.0 is the better of the two) the download is named
"np-120.exe" where the "np" in the name stands for "NewsProxy". If you
try to execute the file, it won't work. You have to change the extension
from "exe" to "zip" and then manually extract the files to a folder of
your choice. Once you've done that, go to that folder and run the
"setup.exe" file to install it. The resulting program is named
NewsProxy, not nFilter.
Sorry about the confusion, but I'm not the one responsible for it.
> as for posting behind that sporge, I thought it was a comfortable place to
> explore my thoughts and feelings, since no body bothers to look behind
> those empty wastes of bandwidth.
???
bluerhinoceros
> http://www.nfilter.org/download.html
There's a newer NewsProxy at
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/ftp/Programs/nps-124.zip
Cheers.
Global Warming
Thanks John,
If you hadn't explained that matter about changing the extension to a zip
I would have never guessed..
Thanks also to the blue rhinoceros for the later link..
There is a later thread "nfilter vs sporge"
regarding nfilter and its effectiveness.
One sure has to wonder about the noise called sporge, what are they
trying to hide?
Kat Mandu
> One sure has to wonder about the noise called sporge, what are they
> trying to hide?
>
Themselves. Behind a ton of garbage.
Global Warming
You have an Amen.
AKA My vote.
John Corliss
I figure don't fix what ain't broke.
Also, there is some debate about whether or not that version is safe to
use. I prefer to err on the side of caution.
bluerhinoceros
> bluerhinoceros wrote:
>> John Corliss wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.nfilter.org/download.html
>>
>> There's a newer NewsProxy at
>> http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/ftp/Programs/nps-124.zip
>
> I figure don't fix what ain't broke.
>
> Also, there is some debate about whether or not that version is safe to
> use. I prefer to err on the side of caution.
>
What safety aspects are implicated?
Thanks.
Ron May
None, really. The author of the latest version who updated the open
source code of the original author is being stalked by some warez
dudez who have a serious weed up their butts and have made
unsubstantiated claims about the author and the software. These same
jerks (or maybe just one jerk) threatened Susan last year with dire
consequences for appearing to be supportive of the author.
I've used V1.24 (and V1.23 before it) for over a year and haven't
noticed the software doing anything other than what it says it does.
--
Ron M.
(I filter Googlespam)
John Corliss
The guy who modified the code of v1.2.0 to create 1.2.4 kept telling me
to examine the code (which comes with the download at the link you
provided), but adroitly sidesteps my requests for the name of the
compiler he used. If I knew which compiler he used, I might be able to
do so. Either that, or I would be able to compile the source code that
he provides and then compare the MD5 hash file with the download to see
if it comes out the same.
Then there are these pages:
http://sharkpost.isterrible.tv/
http://sharkpost.isterrible.tv/enfilter.htm
Don't know how true those pages are but I prefer to err on the side of
caution, and since version 1.2.0 works fine for me, why go to the new
version?
John Corliss
Ron, does version 1.2.4 have any new features over 1.2.0?
Ron May
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 03:54:42 -0700, John Corliss
<jcor...@fake.invalid> wrote:
> > I've used V1.24 (and V1.23 before it) for over a year and haven't
> > noticed the software doing anything other than what it says it does.
>
> Ron, does version 1.2.4 have any new features over 1.2.0?
No new "features" teally. It makes it easier to set up for multiple
news servers and has some minor GUI enhancements such as being able to
resize the Dropped Articles window.
bluerhinoceros
V1.24 has grayed-out the "debug window" option, and added an "always on
top" is about all. Dunno if gaining the multi server ease is worth
losing the debug, but then v1.20 doesn't seem to bring anything up when
that option is selected, anyway...?
Comparing the thread count, it seems that 1.24 spins an additional
thread over 1.20, which runs regardless of whether the port 119 listen
is active or not.
I can't see any unusual port activity, but it would be interesting to
sniff and compare ostensibly identical transmissions between the two.
I'm surprised that the "warez d00dz" that are spreading nasty rumours
about v1.24 haven't done so already. It'd be nice to have some hard
evidence of malevolent activity instead of the FUD that is usually
Microsoft's stock-in-trade, but I hear John's attitude that if it
doesn't have any enhancements, and its source is deliberately obscured,
why risk it. And then there is the matter of that extra thread...
Cheers.
Bill
[...]
>The guy who modified the code of v1.2.0 to create 1.2.4 kept telling me
>to examine the code (which comes with the download at the link you
>provided), but adroitly sidesteps my requests for the name of the
>compiler he used.
The issue has never been sidestepped, you're simply a liar.
John, the file nps-124.txt which is included in nps-124.zip states
"
NewsProxy is _freeware_ and released under the GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE
Version 2, June 1991. The complete Visual C++ 6.0 project workspace in
nps-124-src.zip is ready to compile. NewsProxy is supplied as-is, use it
at your own risk.
"
If you cannot figure out that "Visual C++ 6.0" is the compiler
I used - well, words fail me.
bealoid
news:13d0s45...@news.supernews.com:
[snip]
> I can't see any unusual port activity, but it would be interesting to
> sniff and compare ostensibly identical transmissions between the two.
But it sends data by altering the monitors modulation, thus allowing van-
eck phreaking devices attached to lampposts to pick up everything you're
doing with your fridge, and reporting you to RIAA when you sing in the
shower.
> I'm surprised that the "warez d00dz" that are spreading nasty rumours
> about v1.24 haven't done so already. It'd be nice to have some hard
> evidence of malevolent activity instead of the FUD
The lack of anyone posting anything, anywhere, showing NP 1.2.4 doing
anything dodgy, and the amount of uffers posting vast swathes of stuff
everywhere shows me that maybe there isn't that much to the claims.
> and its source is deliberately obscured,
> why risk it.
The source code is included in every (admittedly not many) download archive
I've seen for news proxy 1.2.4, in a handy zip file called "nps-124-
src.zip".
> And then there is the matter of that extra thread...
EXTRA THREAD OF DOOM!!! ;-)
John Corliss
Whatever. I'm still sticking with 1.2.0.
Bill
[...]
>and its source is deliberately obscured,
>why risk it.
Have you even bothered to look at the source code?
I have commented every change and addition I've made
to the 1.2.0 code per the GPL.
I went beyond the 1.2.0 source code by providing a
package that will compile with no changes. Mark's
source code package does not compile as supplied.
I don't understand you comments about debugging
being disabled. It all works.
I have updated and extended the code for my own
use. If you choose not to use it, fine, but
please do not make statements about the source
code without at least looking at it.
I'd be happy to discuss any aspect of the app
in alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.modified
Please see alt.comp.virus for a discussion of the
http://sharkpost.isterrible.tv/ website and its
allegations. Dustin Cook has examined SharkPost
and has found it isn't malicious. If you ask him
to examine NewsProxy v1.2.4, I'm sure you will
get the same answer - there is no malicious code
in it.
Bear Bottoms
I think liar is a bit harsh. OK, he didn't read/overlooked that, but he
did ask the question and it did go unanswered by my recollection.
--
Bear Bottoms
Freeware website http://bearbottoms1.com
Bill
[...]
>I think liar is a bit harsh. OK, he didn't read/overlooked that, but he
>did ask the question and it did go unanswered by my recollection.
The question was already answered in the distribution *.zip
when I first released it. For him to make statements without
at least reading the release documents is willfully ignorant.
Every change made to the 1.2.0 source code has been annotated
and commented. The is NO attempt to obscure anything in the
code.
I do not promote v1.2.4. I don't ask for any money. Is it
too much too ask you and others to at least read the documentation
and code before you comment on it?
bluerhinoceros
> bluerhinoceros <bluerhi...@humanzoo.invalid> wrote:
>
> [...]
>> and its source is deliberately obscured,
>> why risk it.
>
> Have you even bothered to look at the source code?
I was referring to John's concerns, and not necessarily endorsing them.
My full quote was "...but I hear John's attitude that if it doesn't have
any enhancements, and its source is deliberately obscured, why risk it."
If you misread the tone of that sentence, I'm sorry, but I didn't
believe it necessary to repeat the "if".
I have looked at the code, but as I am not in position to be able to
compile it, can still not speak directly for or against the contention
that it is not the correct source code.
I apologize if my style of dialogue has seemed to position me as a
witness for the prosecution, I thought my post was fairly balanced. The
beginning of the sentence quoted above was "It'd be nice to have some
hard evidence of malevolent activity instead of the FUD that is usually
Microsoft's stock-in-trade...", which was intended as a challenge to
your critics.
> I don't understand you comments about debugging
> being disabled. It all works.
My actual quote was "V1.24 has grayed-out the 'debug window' option".
I'm using the compiled EXE as supplied. In the v1.24 GUI I have before
me at the moment, View -> "Debug Window" is grayed out. Perhaps I'm
missing something?
It does seem that there are a bunch of vocal folk who have a mad on for
either you or your utilities, but that seems to be de rigeur in this NG,
anyway, and even in the wider freeware (usenet?) community. Perhaps
somebody with access to the compiler in question can actually just walk
the walk: compile the code and let's put either the boots or the wings
to this nasty rumour once and (hopefully) for all. I'm bemused at the
amount of vituperation that's been promulgated with no apparent due
diligence. This one seems to be pretty simple to put to bed one way or
the other.
Cheers.
John Corliss
> Bill wrote:
"Bill" AKA "Akula" AKA "Chris Caputo" closely monitors the newsgroups
for any discussion of NewsProxy or nFilter. If he sees his version
mentioned, he jumps in like a pitbull defending the slightest concern
over it. He, in fact, is so aggressive in his defense that he's pissed
off a lot of people in this group (me one of them.)
I wouldn't use his version of the program just out of principle.
However, if I had a copy of Visual C++ 6.0, I would indeed try to
compile the source code to see if the hash file matched his setup file.
That would put an end to this dispute.
Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of the compiler.
Franklin
alt.comp.freeware:
Why is there this open/closed debate? Is there anything in what those
Sharkpost pages say which John referred to?
I must admit that I usually start to use software and read the
doumentation later. Maybe I'm too keen!
Bill
[...]
>My actual quote was "V1.24 has grayed-out the 'debug window' option".
>I'm using the compiled EXE as supplied. In the v1.24 GUI I have before
>me at the moment, View -> "Debug Window" is grayed out. Perhaps I'm
>missing something?
No, you're not missing anything with regard to the View menu.
There has never been a Debug Window. The information that
would have gone to a Debug Window goes to the Messages pane
in the main dialog. I should have removed the item instead
of simply disabling it.
The reason I'm so annoyed when I post to a.c.f is that I
only post here when outright nonsense is being spread.
You do not have to be a programmer to understand what I've
added, removed or changed in NewsProxy. Just fire up Notepad.exe
and look at the *.c files. I've commented the changes and
if there is anything that needs further explaining, I'm
very easy to contact in alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.modified
I'm much nicer when people take the time to contact me.
I've been considering releasing a v1.2.5 that fixes the
Lines header filtering issues, but nonsense like this
is discouraging.
Anyone who stills thinks my work is malicious is welcome
to submit the files to anti-spyware/anti-virus vendors.
I don't write malicious code and I'm confident that no
one will find any.
Anyone who wants to see anything added or fixed in nfilter
ought to let me know in alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.modified
I'll take silence as a sign I should not release any more
builds.
Craig
> bluerhinoceros wrote:
>> Bill wrote:
>>> bluerhinoceros wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>> and its source is deliberately obscured, why risk it.
>>>
>>> Have you even bothered to look at the source code?
>>
>> I was referring to John's concerns, and not necessarily endorsing
>
> "Bill" AKA "Akula" AKA "Chris Caputo" closely monitors the newsgroups
> for any discussion of NewsProxy or nFilter. If he sees his version
> mentioned, he jumps in like a pitbull defending the slightest concern
> over it.
Implying his s/w as possible malware and asserting that the provided
source code is "deliberately obscured" seems above and beyond a
"slightest concern."
> Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of the compiler.
>
MS' is free: <http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/express/aa700735.aspx>.
Of course, it's a part of dotnet ... Freecountry has a pretty sizable
list of C++ compilers: <www.thefreecountry.com/compilers/cpp.shtml>
fwiw,
-Craig
Bear Bottoms
No it is not too much to ask. I personally feel it is understood to do so.
However, if the author is available and you ask him, I see no reason for
him not to answer. It is a small issue to me as I am not involved beyond
observation. For what it is worth, I am one to appreciate anyone offering
valuable effort free to the public...that is awesome generosity for such
effort. I humbly offer appreciation and thanks.
John Corliss
> John Corliss wrote:
>> bluerhinoceros wrote:
>>> Bill wrote:
>>>> bluerhinoceros wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>> and its source is deliberately obscured, why risk it.
>>>>
>>>> Have you even bothered to look at the source code?
>>>
>>> I was referring to John's concerns, and not necessarily endorsing
>>> them...
>>
>> "Bill" AKA "Akula" AKA "Chris Caputo" closely monitors the newsgroups
>> for any discussion of NewsProxy or nFilter. If he sees his version
>> mentioned, he jumps in like a pitbull defending the slightest concern
>> over it.
>
> Implying his s/w as possible malware and asserting that the provided
> source code is "deliberately obscured" seems above and beyond a
> "slightest concern."
I'm not the one who implied that it might be malware. I pointed out that
somebody else did and that they did so is enough for me to avoid using
it. That is, until I'm able to prove to myself that it isn't. However,
since 1.2.0 works for me, it's hardly worth the effort.
FWIU, all of this spew from "Bill" stems from him pissing off a warez
group long ago. They allege that Bill is Chris Caputo and is an FBI
informer. They say that he's modified NewsProxy to transmit usenet
activity information to a server somewhere.
I don't know how true these allegations are, but prefer to err on the
side of caution.
I also could quote the looooonnnnngggg and boring discussion between us
where I continually and repeatedly asked Bill for the name of the
compiler he used and he continually sidestepped providing that
information. However, it's too much effort and I'm not going to get
dragged into yet another flame war with him, whatever sock puppet he's
using at this point.
>> Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of the compiler.
>
> MS' is free: <http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/express/aa700735.aspx>.
> Of course, it's a part of dotnet ... Freecountry has a pretty sizable
> list of C++ compilers: <www.thefreecountry.com/compilers/cpp.shtml>
>
> fwiw,
Unless it's the very same compiler, wouldn't it generate a different
hash file? And that goes for express versions of any MS compiler.
Gary R. Schmidt
[SNIP]
> Unless it's the very same compiler, wouldn't it generate a different
> hash file? And that goes for express versions of any MS compiler.
>
previous build will produce a binary that has a different hash, unless
you take very great pains to scan only the invariant areas.
Of course, in this case the *size* will be the same.
But, if you apply a patch or the like, the next time you build it the
size may differ!
If it is built using MSVC, there are no invariant areas that are worth
comparing.
I have MSVC++ 6, where's the source, I'll have a play with it.
Cheers,
Gary B-)
--
______________________________________________________________________________
Armful of chairs: Something some people would not know
whether you were up them with or not
- Barry Humphries
Susan Bugher
> John Corliss wrote:
> [SNIP]
>
>> Unless it's the very same compiler, wouldn't it generate a different
>> hash file? And that goes for express versions of any MS compiler.
>>
> Even the *same* compiler on the *same* machine mere *seconds* after the
> previous build will produce a binary that has a different hash, unless
> you take very great pains to scan only the invariant areas.
>
> Of course, in this case the *size* will be the same.
>
> But, if you apply a patch or the like, the next time you build it the
> size may differ!
>
> If it is built using MSVC, there are no invariant areas that are worth
> comparing.
>
> I have MSVC++ 6, where's the source, I'll have a play with it.
Program: Newsproxy
Author: Mark Burkley (original author); akula
Ware: (Freeware) (open source: GNU GPL)
ftp://ftp.zedz.net/incoming/
or
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/ftp/Programs/nps-124.zip
Susan
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John Corliss
> John Corliss wrote:
> [SNIP]
>> Unless it's the very same compiler, wouldn't it generate a different
>> hash file? And that goes for express versions of any MS compiler.
>>
> Even the *same* compiler on the *same* machine mere *seconds* after the
> previous build will produce a binary that has a different hash, unless
> you take very great pains to scan only the invariant areas.
>
> Of course, in this case the *size* will be the same.
>
> But, if you apply a patch or the like, the next time you build it the
> size may differ!
>
> If it is built using MSVC, there are no invariant areas that are worth
> comparing.
>
> I have MSVC++ 6, where's the source, I'll have a play with it.
Thanks very much for the info, Gary. The download containing the source
is here:
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/ftp/Programs/nps-124.zip
However, it seems to me that the only way to verify that the compiled
version actually uses the source included with it is to decompile it and
then compare it to the source. Also, it would take a programmer (like
yourself I presume) who understands code to be able to make sure that
the source code is harmless after verifying that the program uses the
source code included with it.
Man, this is giving me a headache. It's why I don't program.
Hey, if all of this gives version 1.2.4 a clean bill of health, then
GREAT! Chris will then be able to have something to defend himself with.
If not though....
Gary R. Schmidt
> Gary R. Schmidt wrote:
>
>> John Corliss wrote:
>> [SNIP]
>>
>>> Unless it's the very same compiler, wouldn't it generate a different
>>> hash file? And that goes for express versions of any MS compiler.
>>>
>> Even the *same* compiler on the *same* machine mere *seconds* after
>> the previous build will produce a binary that has a different hash,
>> unless you take very great pains to scan only the invariant areas.
>>
>> Of course, in this case the *size* will be the same.
>>
>> But, if you apply a patch or the like, the next time you build it the
>> size may differ!
>>
>> If it is built using MSVC, there are no invariant areas that are worth
>> comparing.
>>
>> I have MSVC++ 6, where's the source, I'll have a play with it.
>
> Program: Newsproxy
> Author: Mark Burkley (original author); akula
> Ware: (Freeware) (open source: GNU GPL)
> ftp://ftp.zedz.net/incoming/
> or
> http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/ftp/Programs/nps-124.zip
>
Pulled a copy of NewsProxy_1.2.4.zip from ftp://ftp.zedz.net/incoming.
Built it using MSVC++ 6.0 Pro - size of the generated exe is the same as
the supplied one:
K:\src>dir/s *.exe
Volume in drive K is bigspace
Volume Serial Number is D137-1677
Directory of K:\src
28/07/2006 12:05 PM 237,568 NewsProxy.exe
1 File(s) 237,568 bytes
Directory of K:\src\nps-124-src\release
27/08/2007 12:25 AM 237,568 NewsProxy.exe
1 File(s) 237,568 bytes
Total Files Listed:
2 File(s) 475,136 bytes
0 Dir(s) 67,716,362,240 bytes free
So, the source code matches the binary. Well I, at least, consider it a
close enough match to be no risk.
I suppose I should explain that the *risk* I am considering here is that
the supplied binary matches the source - I have *not* examined the
source. Monkeys may fly out of your butt if you use it.
John Corliss
My God, that sounds painful...
80)>
Bill
[...]
>So, the source code matches the binary. Well I, at least, consider it a
>close enough match to be no risk.
Assessing the "risk" is as easy as examining
the differences to Mark's code. I've commented
all of the changes and tried to be as clear as
possible. Apparently that was a waste of time,
but it's required by the GPL even if no one
bothers to read them.
You can check to see if they are identical by
checking the CRC32 values for each file.
The one I compiled has a CRC32 of 0xE0FCBDE2
You can check the CRC32 of the *.exe you built
in a number of ways. Putting it in a *.zip
file is one easy way. The CRC32 is computed
as part of the zip file data header.
If the CRC32 values are the same, then the
binaries are identical. If they aren't identical,
well, just don't use it.
Franklin
set the dial to "decode". This is what it printed out....
On Sun 26 Aug 2007 01:49:25, hummingbird wrote in alt.comp.freeware:
>
> Bill, I'm with you on this.
[decoded: Bill, I need friends right now so I will admire you - until
I need to attack you without warning.]
> When I read your other post about compiler details being in the
> included .txt file, I went off and checked my zipfile copy of it
> and it was there exactly as you said.
[decoded: you are dead right and I dead agree with you and admire
you]
>
> Two days ago I posted this proposed NP filter for John Corliss
> --rant snipped out--
>
> John Corliss being a serial liar, today posted this deliberate
> misrepresentation of my proposed filter:
[decoded: Hummingbird is a serial liar and if he calls enough people
liar then everyone is too busy to look into his lies because they are
too busy defending themselves against baseless accusations]
>
> <QUOTE>
>> alt.comp.freeware drop Message-ID:*@*
>
> Please note that in NewsProxy filters as in most other programs,
> an asterisk is a wildcard for *anything*. Thus filtering for all
> message-IDs this way:
> *@*
> would filter out any and all messages, leaving me with a blank
> screen.
>
>
> That tells you all you need to know about John Corliss.
[decoded: those were the lies Hummingbird wants to spread about John
Corliss.]
That's all it printed. I'll switch off my Humming-Decoder and save
it's batteries until I need it again.
bluerhinoceros
You can also just compare them with "fc", can't you?
At any rate, and notwithstanding some programming whiz actually
demonstrating malevolent code snippets, I think it's becoming pretty
obvious that allegations of this app (v1.24 anyway) being anything other
than what is purported, are completely unfounded.
Gary: thank you for your efforts in (hopefully) putting to rest these
false accusations.
Bill: thank you for your generosity in contributing to the library of
freeware that we too often draw from without a thought of the work and
community mindedness that has gone into it.
I daresay you'll continue to be hounded in other arenas by these folk
who seem to have had a serious bug up their hinies for many years, but
in my books I don't care how you vote, what you do in RL, who you
slagged in another NG or the way you part your hair: you done good work
here.
Cheers.
bluerhinoceros
> Gary R. Schmidt wrote:
>> Monkeys may fly out of your butt if you use it.
>
> My God, that sounds painful...
>
>
> 80)>
No butt monkeys were harmed in the production of this newspost... ;-)
Cheers.
Bill
[...]
>Chris will then be able to have something to defend himself with.
[...]
I shouldn't need to defend myself, period. My name is Bill, I
live in Kirkland, WA. Chris Caputo used to be my newsadmin.
He lives in Seattle, about 10 miles due west.
I've been telling you the truth all along while you continue to
buy into http://sharkpost.isterrible.tv/ even as the claims fall
apart when scrutinized. If one claim is wrong, why do you think
any of the other claims such as my identity are still true?
Save your answer, the question is rhetorical.
You won't have to worry about any further releases from me.
It's not worth the crap people like you dish out.
bluerhinoceros
> John Corliss <jcor...@fake.invalid> wrote:
>
> [...]
>> Chris will then be able to have something to defend himself with.
> [...]
>
> I shouldn't need to defend myself, period. My name is Bill, I
I think the Chris mentioned here was our Hummingbird, not your
newsadmin. :-)
[snip]
> You won't have to worry about any further releases from me.
> It's not worth the crap people like you dish out.
Sorry to hear that, but I can't say I wouldn't have the same attitude in
your position. You've been attacked from many sides for quite some time.
John's uncertainties (and not direct accusations), as expressed in this
thread, seem pretty tame compared to the real abuse you've been
subjected to elsewhere. I didn't see any significant "crap" being dealt
in here, just concerns, which John has now taken an active hand in
dispelling.
Hope the bitterness melts. Again, thank you.
Cheers.
Bear Bottoms
Well ya gotta have thicker skin. No harm done and there are many who
appreciate such generosity. You will always find detractors...ignore those
if you like.
--
Bear Bottoms
Freeware website http://bearbottoms1.com
Freeware Wikia http://freeware.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
Craig
> On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 12:18:08 -0500, Bill <res0...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> You won't have to worry about any further releases from me. It's
>> not worth the crap people like you dish out.
>
> Well ya gotta have thicker skin.
Or, wear leathers. A must for serious bikers /and/ freeware authors.
> No harm done and there are many who appreciate such generosity. You
> will always find detractors...ignore those if you like.
>
Yup. Fwiw, I don't use your product, Bill but as with anything else in
life, it'd be a pity to stop doing something one enjoys because of
detractors.
My personal Rx for you would be ~3 hours in a rock-climbing gym.
"Dr" Craig
bluerhinoceros
> My RL name is not Chris and John Corliss may have the name on
It can't have escaped your killfiled attention that you are commonly
referred to as Hummingbird/Chris in here when somebody tries to (too
often successfully) bait you. My reading of John's original was that he
was taking a lateral swipe at you. Perhaps my interpretation was
incorrect, I expect John can speak for himself if he deems it important.
> Your effort to mediate is commendable bluerhino but I see little doubt
And thenk yew fer yer support...
Cheers.
John Corliss
No, I wasn't referring to hummingbird.
Franklin
<bluerhi...@humanzoo.invalid> wrote in alt.comp.freeware:
> hummingbird wrote:
>
>> My RL name is not Chris and John Corliss may have the name ...
>
Hummingbird/Chris,
Then I guess what you wrote in the following posting is just a set of
lies?
Or maybe NOT?
Franklin
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From: hummingbird <hummi...@2die4.com>
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Subject: Re: ACF improvement project
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:07:19 +0100
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:23:41 +0100 'jon'
posted this onto alt.comp.freeware:
> I have repeatedly had to put up with RL threats here
> recently from the Millbank/hummingbird drone because he has
> objected to usenet posts of mine.
Jon, Since you have completely ignored the ceasefire called by BB/HB
last Sunday ...Let's get this absolutely clear shall we:
-- snip --
How do you think I feel every day when I see yet another piece of my
private life and ID being dribbled out onto ACF by you, along with
strong hints that you have lots more to post??? That is intimidation
and threatening behaviour. It may seem like fun to you, but it isn't
to me. My privacy has always been very important to me and you have
violated it to the extreme. I live in daily fear that you have
somehow trawled my home address and will post it on ACF for the whole
world and Franklin to see. He has already been asking around ACF on
how he can get access to UK electoral lists, he obviously wants my
home address to splatter across ACF and the Internet for the world to
see.
Then what??? Dog poop through my letterbox??? Bricks through my
windows??? Fire bombs through my windows??? My car wrecked??? Lawns
sprayed with weedkiller???
If I posted just a list of MIDs of your posts which contained lies,
distortions, out of context quotes, smears, false allegations and
personal ID info, it would go on for screenfulls. You know that. If
I added a list of Franklin's tripe it would never end.
-- snip --
Before that, you cut/pasted some comments of mine onto ACF which I
had posted onto a Thai hotel website. Clearly you have spent endless
hours/days/weeks trawling the Internet for every juicy snippet.
WHY???
Further, you publicly offered all your juicy snippets to others on
ACF and afaik have provided said info to other people via private
e-mail. I note that you exchange juicy gossipy lies with Franklin on
ACF on a daily basis. You deliberately feed his mania.
A while ago, you posted an <8,000 line post onto ACF containing much
of the juicy snippets about me which you had at that time. Now you
have the gall to claim it was "a newbie posting error", yet yesterday
you described yourself as a "geek". Sunday night you posted that an
anon post on ACF was from me and that it crossed your red line.
-- snip--
Play the innocent victim role all you like Jon but you had no reason
to start your stalking campaign, and the evidence and truth is now in
the hands of independent advisors and it doesn't matter one jot what
your fair weather friends on ACF say. They will all run for the trees
when the sh*t hits the fan. Believe me, that's what bullies do.
-- snip --
At every stage I warned you of the hole you were digging and asked
you to "back off", "back away" and "get off this track" but your
childish bully-boy bloated ego just cannot be controlled can it.
It is increasingly clear to me that the only thing which will reign
you in are the prosecution papers arriving on your doormat and you
are held to account in a court of law.
-- snip --
I even pointed out to you yesterday (via private e-mail) that a final
decision on whether to take legal proceedings against you will be
influenced by your behaviour towards me on ACF in the coming period.
But here you are today pouring out more projections, insults and
distortions and defaming me yet again.
??? Do you never learn ???
"You just cannot stop it can you Jon"
You have got yourself into a vicious cycle of obsession about me and
my private affairs and it is leading you straight towards the law.
WAKE UP.
I URGE YOU TO READ AND RE-READ MY TWO PRIVATE E-MAILS SENT TO YOU
YESTERDAY AND WHEN YOU'VE DONE SO, READ THEM AGAIN. There are people
in this world a million times wiser than you Jon. You really ought to
listen to them and take advice. Those people do not mainly reside on
ACF.
What I have posted above is just the tip of the iceberg about Jon's
behaviour. Some of it has been quite disgusting.
I have nothing more to say on this matter in public at this time and
will unlikely even read anything posted by ACF's No.1 Troll and
Troublemaker: Franklin.
If he would like to post his RL name/address/ISP, I will deal with
it.
Thank you.
> I prefer to live in a culture system where one of life's
> Millbanks can use his retirement fund to park a blacked
> out van full of 'decorators' across the road from my
> Barmouth home in ZZZZ 1ZZ, rather than a culture system
> that makes me live in a goldfish bowl in order to protect
> me from him.
>
> Who on earth wants to live on their knees?
bluerhinoceros
> I believe JC has confirmed it wasn't me he was referring to.
My bad, it would seem.
Cheers.
Bill
And that's why I'm finished with releasing freeware.
(The comments below are directed to the group, not you.)
If I have to fight people to convince them my name
is Bill, even after the people who have stalked me
have been proven wrong on other claims, then it's
not worth my effort. Something is seriously wrong
with an author giving his work away and then having
to fight people to use it. Obviously some people
here think my harassers are more credible despite
them giving you nothing but unwanted crossposts.
It's too much for you to demand that I "out" myself just
to get you to use my free work, especially when I supply
all of the source code, tell you the compiler I used and
make certain that the package will compile. Heck, if
you had asked nicely, I would have even set you up with
the compiler.
I've already coded up a Lines header fix for NewsProxy
(even though no one could be bothered to find me and tell
me about the problem) but I'm not about to put up with
another round of being called a liar and a malicious
coder. I could change the regular expression code to
some other standard, but again, it's not going to be
released.
I can't do anything about what has already been released
and distributed. Feel free to ask the hoster of the files
to delete them if you want. In any event, don't count on
me supporting them.
I do not plan on participating further in this newsgroup.
If someone manages to convince those who believe I'm evil
that http://sharkpost.isterrible.tv/ is all lies, hunt me
down elsewhere in usenet and I may reconsider.
John Corliss
Soooo.... who is "Akula"? You? Or Chris?
Mike Dee
> Don't know how true those pages are but I prefer to err on the
> side of caution, and since version 1.2.0 works fine for me, why go
> to the new version?
I've been using 1.2.4 and find that its OK.
Umm the only things noticeable that are really different
1) (unimportant) It now has a much nicer icon for the app.
2) (important) Its now easy to use multiple servers with NewsProxy
I haven't used 1.2.0 for at least 6 months, haven't noticed anything
malicious about 1.2.4.
I got my NewsProxy files NewsProxy_1.2.4.zip, NewsProxy_1.2.4.md5 and
NewsProxy_1.2.4.txt files from here:
<ftp://ftp.zedz.net/incoming/>
And I simply overwrote my installed NewsProxy 1.2.0 executable with the
1.2.4 executable in the zip file.
--
dee
Franklin
wrote in alt.comp.freeware:
>> Global Warming wrote:
>>
>>> One sure has to wonder about the noise called sporge, what are they
>>> trying to hide?
>>>
>>
>> Themselves. Behind a ton of garbage.
>>
>
> You have an Amen.
> AKA My vote.
>
Is there a side to vote for which stands for less voting?
Is there a side to vote for which stands for fewer calls for voting?
Would this be democracy? If so, where do I get a sherd?
Bill
>In <news:jt61d3d84kajaq6bq...@4ax.com>,
>Bill <res0...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>>I think liar is a bit harsh. OK, he didn't read/overlooked that, but
>>>he did ask the question and it did go unanswered by my recollection.
>>
>>The question was already answered in the distribution *.zip
>>when I first released it.
>
>Then you could/should have mentioned that when he asked the question,
>instead of sidestepping.
I answered the question directly when it was first raised. See below.
Seriously - what the hell is wrong with you people?
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John Corliss <jcor...@fake.invalid> wrote:
>jon wrote:
>> Mark Marsh wrote:
>>
>>> John Corliss wrote:
>>>> I'm now using NFilter to block everything coming from Google Groups.
>>> Seems to only work in a Windows 9x OS though.
>>
>> You probably have the slightly corrupted download. Unzip the .exe file
>> with a zip client and run as a no install.
>
>Jon, which download are you talking about that's corrupted?
>
>I just viewed alt.binaries.freeware using Grabit, and did a search for
>all posts containing the word "Proxy". Among the results were a binary
>post of version 1.2.4 by "Bill" <res0...@verizon.net as well as a
>warning by "Sock-Puppets Exposed" <exp...@sock.puppets> that goes as
>follows:
>
>> In article <w_G5h.1222$ZN1.270@trndny03>
>> "Bill" <res0...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>> The source code is commented and explains how to use
>>>>> features not documented below.
>>>>
>>>>Where is the source code?
>>>>
>>>It's in nps-124-src.zip, which is inside of nps-124.zip
>>
>>
>> If you are willing to give akula access to your computer and your house,
>> download and use what he posts.
>>
>> He doesn't even have the guts to post under his notorious akula nym
>> anymore.
>>
>> His sudden "Bill" fantasy doesn't change any of these facts.
>>
>> You have been warned.
>>
>> Download at your own risk.
>>
>>
>>
>> The so-called source code does not produce the binary compiled release.
>> Compile it and see for yourself.
>
>Any idea what's going on here?
I'd greatly appreciate it if questions like this are raised,
you'd post a message to my attention in
~~~
alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.modified
~~~
and I'll do whatever it takes to answer your questions
authoritatively. Asking the crowd here when you can
easily get the answer straight from the source is very
frustrating to me. I've given you my work for free,
couldn't you at least show me some courtesy and put a
tiny amount of effort into contacting me?
I supply a _complete_ Visual C++ v6.0 SP6 project workspace
for NewsProxy v1.2.4
It's _exactly_ the same as what I compile. My source
is more complete than Mark's original v1.2.0 source,
which is missing several insignificant files and won't
compile without a small amount of work.
I'm quite disappointed that anyone would buy into the
claims made about me especially when they can read the
source code for themselves and see that all of the claims
are lies.
I've also released the Sharkpost source code - I'll repost
it on request to alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.modified
Please - you especially John ought to have enough sense not
to continue to spread this nonsense about me and my freeware.
I give a damn about usenet - that's why the insane idiots
who slander me work so hard to cast doubt on my work.
Let's drive a stake through the heart of this nonsense folks in -
alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.modified
where it won't get drowned in a sea of clutter and threats.
John Corliss
Global Warming
>>
>> Soooo.... who is "Akula"? You? Or Chris?
>
> Soooo.... who is "Akula"? You? Or Chris?
>
Does it really' matter?
POKO
says...
to do with freeware?
--
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Read My Blog -Somebody Has To
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Global Warming
Hey John
What is your gripe?
If you are American, have you heard about Ron Paul?
If you you have an agenda, please feel 'free here at acf, freeware is the
pill and the modern way way where civilized human beings can address modern
mankind, this is not a test, it is fundamentalism, core spirit, I submit
these words into the the belly of this hemisphere and into the belly of the
demon,..
Global Warming
Everything.
bluerhinoceros
> Firsttime looking at this thread and have to ask what the hell warez has
> to do with freeware?
The Readers' Digest version:
Akula (Russian for shark) is the nym of somebody who posts in various
newgroups, including warez groups. The original open source code for
NFilter (a Usenet message filter) was taken and modified by this person
and released as an updated freeware version, rebranded NewsProxy but
without complete source. Akula may or may not have already been in their
bad books, but a bunch of warez d00dz got upset and said Akula was
really an FBI agent in disguise, had ratted a bunch of them out already,
and had secretly planted malevolent code in the new version that would
clandestinely transmit their identities, IP addresses, or mothers'
maiden names to some unidentified (government?) server, and would
corrupt the host operating system to the point of requiring a hard drive
reformat. Akula refused to release source, but did release another
updated version with complete source (the on screen attribution to Akula
was removed in this version). That source has been independently
recompiled, and the resulting EXE demonstrated to be the version he
released. However, the warez folk say that was just a smokescreen to
cover the fact that his malevolent version was still out there and being
actively promoted in warez circles, and refer to the program as
NewsPoxy. Nobody has ever demonstrated any actual malicious activity,
and at least one virus scanner author has certified it as free of malware.
"Akula"'s real identity is unknown, some warez people say he is Chris
Caputo, but "Bill", of Kirkland WA, the nym of somebody claiming
authorship (and hence being Akula), says Chris, of Seattle, was his
newsadmin only.
You can read the whole story and try to sort it out for yourself (I
suggest a couple of stiff belts of a nice single malt first) by
following various links in this thread and in others. One other thread,
for example, in this NG, is 'MANATEE "Vrodok the Troll" MEMORIES GETS
SLAPPED BY NEWSADMIN CHRIS "Bill" CAPUTO'.
Hope this helps.
Cheers.
POKO
bluerhi...@humanzoo.invalid says...
that kind of a freeware. thanks for the explanation,
POKO
John Fitzsimons
< snip >
>Something is seriously wrong
>with an author giving his work away and then having
>to fight people to use it.
< snip >
Yep. There is no need to fight people. If they want to use your
program then let them. If they don't want to then let that happen
as well.
John Corliss
Absolutely. And you notice that "Bill" won't answer my question.
Sietse Fliege
> Global Warming wrote:
>>> John Corliss wrote:
>>>> Soooo.... who is "Akula"? You? Or Chris?
>>>
>>> Soooo.... who is "Akula"? You? Or Chris?
>>
>> Does it really' matter?
>
> Absolutely. And you notice that "Bill" won't answer my question.
How odd that you asked the question directly after quoting Bill:
"I do not plan on participating further in this newsgroup.
If someone manages to convince those who believe I'm evil
that http://sharkpost.isterrible.tv/ is all lies, hunt me
down elsewhere in usenet and I may reconsider."
Even odder, that you just repeated the question when he didn't reply.
The oddest thing is that you manage to use his refusal to reply here as
a base for adding insult to insult.
If I were you I would stop insulting someone who left the group and will
no longer update his freeware for a great part because of you.
--
Cheers,
Sietse Fliege
John Corliss
> John Corliss <jcor...@fake.invalid> wrote:
>
> [...]
>> Chris will then be able to have something to defend himself with.
> [...]
>
> I shouldn't need to defend myself, period. My name is Bill, I
> live in Kirkland, WA. Chris Caputo used to be my newsadmin.
> He lives in Seattle, about 10 miles due west.
Oh, you mean 36 year old Chris P. Caputo.
I'm flat out calling you a liar. You and Caputo are the same person.
> I've been telling you the truth all along while you continue to
> buy into http://sharkpost.isterrible.tv/ even as the claims fall
> apart when scrutinized. If one claim is wrong, why do you think
> any of the other claims such as my identity are still true?
>
> Save your answer, the question is rhetorical.
You're not going to stop me from answering it: just because one (or even
more) claim(s) on their page may or may not be wrong, that doesn't mean
that all of the other claims are wrong by default. Your logic is flawed.
> You won't have to worry about any further releases from me.
> It's not worth the crap people like you dish out.
Good. Maybe it will stop you from switching names and causing trouble in
this group.
John Corliss
Nice summary. And I would like to add that (AFAIK) Chris Caputo is the
president of a newsfeed called "Altopia":
Doing a whois on that page only yields this:
________________________________________________________________
Registrant:
Altopia Corporation
10115 Greenwood Ave. N. 294
Seattle Washington 98133-9197
United States
Registered through: GoDaddy.com Inc. http://www.godaddy.com
Domain Name: ALTOPIA.COM
Created on: 30-May-96
Expires on: 28-May-08
Last Updated on: 17-Nov-06
Administrative Contact:
Hostmaster Altopia hostm...@alt.net
Altopia Corporation
10115 Greenwood Ave. N. 294
Seattle Washington 98133-9197
United States
(206) 367-4320 Fax -- (206) 367-4319
Technical Contact:
Hostmaster Altopia hostm...@alt.net
Altopia Corporation
10115 Greenwood Ave. N. 294
Seattle Washington 98133-9197
United States
(206) 367-4320 Fax -- (206) 367-4319
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.ALT.NET
NS2.ALT.NET
NS3.ALT.NET
________________________________________________________________
Note that trying to go to www.alt.net sends you to the Altopia home page.
From this page (presumably up to date):
https://www.altopia.com/legal.html
comes the following:
________________________________________________________________
Pursuant to Digital Millennium Copyright Act, Title 17 U.S.C. 512(c)(2),
Altopia Corporation's Designated Agent for receipt of any claims of
copyright infringement is Chris Caputo. Altopia Corporation's Designated
Agent may be contacted at any of the following:
10115 Greenwood Ave. N., #294
Seattle, WA 98133-9197
206-367-4320 (voice)
206-367-4319 (fax)
copy...@altopia.com
________________________________________________________________
and "Bill" said that Chris Caputo (quote) "Chris Caputo used to be my
newsadmin."
Newsadmin for what? If he was newsadmin for Altopia, then the page needs
to be corrected. OTOH, maybe he worked for "Bill" some other place.
I *have* found online information that Chris Caputo is the president of
Altopia Corporation since at least Jan. 26, 1999:
http://www.copyright.gov/onlinesp/agents/alto.pdf
Open the .pdf file and scroll to the bottom of the application where it
says:
_________________________________________________________________
_Chris Caputo _ <----------Printed on the line
Print name
_President _ <----------Printed on the line
Title
_________________________________________________________________
Right above where the name is printed, it appears to be signed but censored.
This document also says (again, and confirming info on Altopia's
website) that Chris Caputo is the "Agent designated to receive
notification of claimed infringement" pursuant to the Digital Millennium
Copyright Act, section 512(c)(2) of title 17 of the United States Code,
as amended.
And unless somebody forged his name, he posted this email on Mon Jul 29
12:50:36 CDT 1996:
http://www.academ.com/pipermail/nntp-extensions/1996-July/000005.html
And finally, there is this:
http://www.uffnet.com/kookkamp/chris/caputoakula.htm
John Corliss
I've researched his history enough to know that this is no great loss to
the world of freeware OR to ACF.
Caesar Romano
<change_.inv...@sf.slownet.invalid> wrote Re Re: butter in
pretty soldier:
>If I were you I would stop insulting someone who left the group and will
>no longer update his freeware for a great part because of you.
Well said Sietse. It looks like the mad-dog Corlis-Troll has managed
to mug another hapless victim. He's no doubt proud of it.
Global Warming
> I've researched his history enough to know that this is no great loss to
> the world of freeware OR to ACF.
>
So what really is bothering you about this person?
John Corliss
I have no desire to go any further with this. Suffice it to say that
I've read enough to see that he's not worth talking with or about.
Nicodemus
@corp.supernews.com:
> Sietse Fliege wrote:
>> John Corliss wrote:
>>> Global Warming wrote:
>>>>> John Corliss wrote:
>>>>>> Soooo.... who is "Akula"? You? Or Chris?
>>>>> Soooo.... who is "Akula"? You? Or Chris?
>>>> Does it really' matter?
>>> Absolutely. And you notice that "Bill" won't answer my question.
>> N
>> How odd that you asked the question directly after quoting Bill:
>>
>> "I do not plan on participating further in this newsgroup.
>> If someone manages to convince those who believe I'm evil
>> that http://sharkpost.isterrible.tv/ is all lies, hunt me
>> down elsewhere in usenet and I may reconsider."
>>
>> Even odder, that you just repeated the question when he didn't reply.
>>
>> The oddest thing is that you manage to use his refusal to reply here
as
>> a base for adding insult to insult.
>>
>> If I were you I would stop insulting someone who left the group and
will
>> no longer update his freeware for a great part because of you.
>
> I've researched his history enough to know that this is no great loss
to
> the world of freeware OR to ACF.
>
May I call you a brother ?
Nicodemus
> Global Warming wrote:
>> snipped
>>
>>> I've researched his history enough to know that this is no great
>>> loss to the world of freeware OR to ACF.
>>
>> So what really is bothering you about this person?
>
> I have no desire to go any further with this. Suffice it to say that
Thanks
> I've read enough to see that he's not worth talking with or about.
>
Thanks