Windows 11 compatibility freeware

FromTheRafters

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Jun 29, 2021, 11:06:33 AM6/29/21

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What's a good free tool to test for Windows 11 compatibility?

Is this FOSS 3rd party freeware for that purpose any good?
https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-11/252493/tip-find-out-why-your-pc-is-incompatible-with-windows-11?_hsmi=136848350

https://fcofix.org/WhyNotWin11/releases
https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11/releases
https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11/releases/tag/2.2.4
https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11/releases/download/2.2.4/WhyNotWin11.exe
https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11/releases/download/2.2.4/WhyNotWin11_x86.exe

Yakker

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Jun 30, 2021, 7:32:23 PM6/30/21

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FromTheRafters <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
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A few different 3rd party tools gave inaccurate results on my
machine. There is talk Windows will change specs as the day
approaches but if people really want to know now, the most
reliable utility seems to be Microsot's own utility BUT make sure
you run it in a sandbox so there is no chance it will install
something you way not want.

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Jul 1, 2021, 9:21:29 AM7/1/21

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Yakker used his or her keyboard to write :

> A few different 3rd party tools gave inaccurate results on my
> machine. There is talk Windows will change specs as the day
> approaches but if people really want to know now, the most
> reliable utility seems to be Microsot's own utility BUT make sure
> you run it in a sandbox so there is no chance it will install
> something you way not want.

Microsoft has recently deprecated their Windows 11 compatibility checker.
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/windows-11-microsoft-drops-pc-health-check-app-how-to-see-if-your-laptop-works-with-the-new-os/

So all we have left are the 3rd party compatibility test utilities.
Does anyone know what other 3rd party compatibility testers are in the wild?

Yakker

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Jul 1, 2021, 6:05:05 PM7/1/21

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FromTheRafters <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
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Don't quote me but I believe Microsoft plans to update compatibility requirements so more computers can load it (polite way of saying 'force it onto more users')

WhyNot11 you already have details.

Win11SysCheck
https://github.com/mq1n/Win11SysCheck/releases/latest
Moin
https://github.com/builtbybel/ReadySunValley/releases

Moin misreported my disk as MBR, when it is actually GPT. Otherwise, its check seemed OK on my Dell

WhyNot11 also reported MBR instead of GPT

Win11Ssycheck reported my i7 quad core processor not up to the task. Reading results from one of the others that says my chip is 'not listed' but performance is OK, I suspect it is grabbing data from a list but it did seem to measure processor speed.

I now see Microsoft didn't get it right, either!
https://news.thewindowsclub.com/microsoft-confirms-that-the-pc-check-tool-is-unreliable-105906/
Sounds like their update teams patch method - rush it out half-baked and wait for the flack.

My advice: bide your time until Microsoft fixes its tool then run that in a sandbox and don't be in a rush to install Windows 11. Previous experience indicates it will take a while to iron out the bugs.

FromTheRafters

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Jul 1, 2021, 10:52:43 PM7/1/21

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> Previous experience indicates it will take a while to iron out the bugs.

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Jul 2, 2021, 4:22:55 AM7/2/21

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On Thu, 1 Jul 2021 21:52:43 -0500, FromTheRafters
<err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

>I don't have a single PC which is compatible, unfortunately.
>Does anyone?

My desktop PC is.

Personally, I found it easier to check requirements manually btw.

Most of the info is in System information, device manager, and dxdiag
and the list of processors is online.

None of those applications seem totally reliable right now and the
latest whynotwin11 has 4 red ones on VT.

The more important question is what do I get out of upgrading. So far it
comes down to extension of life span past Windows 10 end-of-support date
which I guess is attractive.

There's gonna be a cost and some pain though. There always is. Not keen
on being an early adopter a.k.a sacrificial goat.

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Jul 2, 2021, 8:46:02 AM7/2/21

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> Most of the info is in System information, device manager, and dxdiag

I wouldn't say "most" but certainly "some" information is available from the
disparate tools Microsoft provides (although not technically freeware).

I have a typical older desktop with open space and a few empty slots.
Most seem to be failing on TPM & Secure Boot but some pass.

Windows 11 requires DirectX version 12, which I looked up how to test for.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/checking-your-version-of-directx-7b71e74f-02e8-456f-72c7-9a1c1bbf0e9a
The "dxdiag.exe" tool says my hardware is DirectX 12.

Windows 11 requires TPM which I looked up how to test for & upgrade.
https://technoresult.com/how-to-check-tpm-status-in-windows-10/
The "devmgmt.msc" tool doesn't display any "Security Devices" category.

The "wmic.exe" tool says "No Instance(s) Available."
wmic /namespace:\\root\cimv2\security\microsofttpm path win32_tpm get *
/format:textvaluelist.xsl

The "tpm.msc" tool says "Compatible TPM cannot be found on this computer.
Verify that this computer has a 1.2 TPM or later and it is turned on in the
BIOS."

I will try this sequence in my BIOS to see if TPM can be enabled.
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-enable-trusted-platform-module-tpm-your-pc-if-its-supported

This says TPM can be purchased as an add on (but at what cost?).
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-windows_install/installing-a-tpm-on-an-operational-copy-of-windows/8b113b6a-fe59-45d0-be6e-7cf6bf43d2d1

Windows 11 requires Secure Boot which I looked up how to enable.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/mem/intune/user-help/you-need-to-enable-secure-boot-windows
The "msinfo32.exe" tool for me says "BIOS Mode = Legacy"
The "msinfo32.exe" toll for me says "Secure Boot State = Unsupported"

The answers are disparate in some cases.

> and the list of processors is online.

I'm not sure if Microsoft is listing the AMD processors yet.
Are they?

John C.

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Jul 2, 2021, 3:16:40 PM7/2/21

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p-0''0-h the cat (coder) wrote:

> romTheRafters wrote:
>>
>> I don't have a single PC which is compatible, unfortunately.
>> Does anyone?
>
> My desktop PC is.
> Personally, I found it easier to check requirements manually btw.
>
> Most of the info is in System information, device manager, and dxdiag
> and the list of processors is online.
>
> None of those applications seem totally reliable right now and the
> latest whynotwin11 has 4 red ones on VT.
>
> The more important question is what do I get out of upgrading. So far it
> comes down to extension of life span past Windows 10 end-of-support date
> which I guess is attractive.
>
> There's gonna be a cost and some pain though. There always is. Not keen
> on being an early adopter a.k.a sacrificial goat.

Detailed system requirements for W11 are here:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifications

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Jul 2, 2021, 3:53:30 PM7/2/21

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On Fri, 2 Jul 2021 07:46:02 -0500, FromTheRafters
<err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

>I'm not sure if Microsoft is listing the AMD processors yet.
>Are they?

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-amd-processors

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Jul 2, 2021, 4:05:12 PM7/2/21

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On Fri, 2 Jul 2021 07:46:02 -0500, FromTheRafters
<err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

>This says TPM can be purchased as an add on (but at what cost?).

Put 'TPM module' into eBay or Aliexpress and voila. 5-30 quid in GBP
seems to be the going rate. Remember you need v2.0. Looks like it could
be the way of pain though. Research hard, then harder still, then harder
still.

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Jul 2, 2021, 4:42:44 PM7/2/21

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On Fri, 2 Jul 2021 12:16:28 -0700, "John C." <r9j...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>p-0''0-h the cat (coder) wrote:
>> romTheRafters wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't have a single PC which is compatible, unfortunately.
>>> Does anyone?
>>
>> My desktop PC is.
>> Personally, I found it easier to check requirements manually btw.
>>
>> Most of the info is in System information, device manager, and dxdiag
>> and the list of processors is online.
>>
>> None of those applications seem totally reliable right now and the
>> latest whynotwin11 has 4 red ones on VT.
>>
>> The more important question is what do I get out of upgrading. So far it
>> comes down to extension of life span past Windows 10 end-of-support date
>> which I guess is attractive.
>>
>> There's gonna be a cost and some pain though. There always is. Not keen
>> on being an early adopter a.k.a sacrificial goat.
>
>Detailed system requirements for W11 are here:
>
>https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifications

Thanks. I'm not sure why Batty couldn't find all those specs using the
tools I mentioned but yunno, hanging upside down, it's not good.

Looking through the new features and removals on that page is not
terribly exciting unless I'm missing something. The one thing I noticed
is they are removing 'Timeline' which I find useful on occasion. 'Start'
looks to be worse. How is that even possible. Hopefully Stardock will
fix it. Paint 3D and viewer didn't last long, its been relegated to the
store along with Skype. Bye. See ya! Change for the sake of it. Call me
a dinosaur.

Yakker

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Jul 2, 2021, 6:16:31 PM7/2/21

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FromTheRafters <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
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> Thanks for that additional set of tools to check for Win11
> compatibility. I don't have a single PC which is compatible,
> unfortunately. Does anyone?

I believe my 18 month old Dell passes but it is still depends how good the test is and changes Microsoft makes before the release date.

If your computer falls over for a specific reason, you may be able to upgrade components. For example, TPM seems to be a major stumbling block for some.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+to+upgrade+TPM&atb=v233-1&ia=web

Convert file system to GPT
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=convert+file+system+to+GPT&atb=v233-1&ia=web

If your machine doesn't support it, under no circumstances should you install Windows 11. Even if it works first day, Microsoft will eventually trap whatever component is causing the issue and will prevent upgrades, eventually leading to non-support.if that sounds like the voice of experience, it is because that is precisely what happened to one of my old devices with Windows 10.

Nic

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Jul 2, 2021, 7:54:12 PM7/2/21

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On 6/29/21 11:06 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
> What's a good free tool to test for Windows 11 compatibility?
>
> Is this FOSS 3rd party freeware for that purpose any good?
> https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-11/252493/tip-find-out-why-your-pc-is-incompatible-with-windows-11?_hsmi=136848350
>
>
>

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Jul 3, 2021, 5:38:04 AM7/3/21

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John C. used his or her keyboard to write :

> Detailed system requirements for W11 are here:
>
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifications

https://www.howtogeek.com/739029/why-doesnt-windows-11-support-my-cpu/

"Windows 11 requires at least an 8th-generation Intel CPU or AMD Ryzen 2000
processor. Microsoft can't seem to clearly explain why"

Flasherly

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On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 04:38:05 -0500, FromTheRafters
<err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

>
>https://www.howtogeek.com/739029/why-doesnt-windows-11-support-my-cpu/
>
>"Windows 11 requires at least an 8th-generation Intel CPU or AMD Ryzen 2000
>processor. Microsoft can't seem to clearly explain why"

NSA says all its employees stick a Windows mouse up their butts so
clarity will be clear to you. Get your mind straight, son, at least
to quack like you're on the same page.