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John C.
Mar 17, 2023, 11:56:17 AM3/17/23
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I decided to use Aomei Backupper Standard to do what they refer to as a
"System Clone". This is because I want my first hard drive to be able to
boot. My main drive is an SSD, and if it fails, I want to be able to
boot my computer from the internal backup hard drive which I have installed.
As I attempted to do this "System Clone", ABS informed me that the
ability to do so is limited to their "Pro" addition.
Thinking that since my backup hard drive was originally my main drive
and the one I actually installed Windows to, I naively believed that it
would be bootable. To find out for sure though, I went into the BIOS and
changed the boot order so that it was the second choice (after the DVD
burner, of course.) It failed to boot.
Regardless, I just thought that others who use Aomei Backupper Standard
and who are unaware of this limitation might want to be aware of it.
Now I am on the lookout for any freeware program which will clone the
tiny "System" partition to my backup drive and also configure it so that
the backup drive is also bootable. Any recommendations (freeware only
please) are more than welcome.
PS. Please do NOT attempt to divert this thread into a "backup methods"
discussion. I know what I want to do and why, and have other reasons for
doing things the way I do which are not open to debate.
TIA
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"System Clone". This is because I want my first hard drive to be able to
boot. My main drive is an SSD, and if it fails, I want to be able to
boot my computer from the internal backup hard drive which I have installed.
As I attempted to do this "System Clone", ABS informed me that the
ability to do so is limited to their "Pro" addition.
Thinking that since my backup hard drive was originally my main drive
and the one I actually installed Windows to, I naively believed that it
would be bootable. To find out for sure though, I went into the BIOS and
changed the boot order so that it was the second choice (after the DVD
burner, of course.) It failed to boot.
Regardless, I just thought that others who use Aomei Backupper Standard
and who are unaware of this limitation might want to be aware of it.
Now I am on the lookout for any freeware program which will clone the
tiny "System" partition to my backup drive and also configure it so that
the backup drive is also bootable. Any recommendations (freeware only
please) are more than welcome.
PS. Please do NOT attempt to divert this thread into a "backup methods"
discussion. I know what I want to do and why, and have other reasons for
doing things the way I do which are not open to debate.
TIA
--
John C. BS206. No ad, CD, cripple, demo, nag, pay, pirated, share, spy,
time-limited, trial or web wares for me please. I filter out posts made
from Google Groups and also cross-posted messages (those sent to more
than one newsgroup at a time.) I recommend you do likewise. I also
filter out all posts from Kasey, a troll who doesn't believe in two-way
firewalls and »Q«, who is a more garden-variety troll.
Shadow
Mar 17, 2023, 12:49:54 PM3/17/23
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On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 08:56:07 -0700, "John C." <r9j...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>I decided to use Aomei Backupper Standard to do what they refer to as a
>"System Clone". This is because I want my first hard drive to be able to
>boot. My main drive is an SSD, and if it fails, I want to be able to
>boot my computer from the internal backup hard drive which I have installed.
>
>As I attempted to do this "System Clone", ABS informed me that the
>ability to do so is limited to their "Pro" addition.
>
>Thinking that since my backup hard drive was originally my main drive
>and the one I actually installed Windows to, I naively believed that it
>would be bootable. To find out for sure though, I went into the BIOS and
>changed the boot order so that it was the second choice (after the DVD
>burner, of course.) It failed to boot.
>
>Regardless, I just thought that others who use Aomei Backupper Standard
>and who are unaware of this limitation might want to be aware of it.
>
>Now I am on the lookout for any freeware program which will clone the
>tiny "System" partition to my backup drive and also configure it so that
>the backup drive is also bootable. Any recommendations (freeware only
>please) are more than welcome.
>
>PS. Please do NOT attempt to divert this thread into a "backup methods"
>discussion. I know what I want to do and why, and have other reasons for
>doing things the way I do which are not open to debate.
>
>TIA
You're becoming rather restrictive in your old age, John.
I've always used Clonezilla to clone my main computer's drive.
Since it also clones partitions, I can't see why it wouldn't clone all
the data AND the boot sector if you choose just "drive C" (or whatever
your system drive is called). Sounds like what you want.
Though I've never done partitions with it.
HTH
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wrote:
>I decided to use Aomei Backupper Standard to do what they refer to as a
>"System Clone". This is because I want my first hard drive to be able to
>boot. My main drive is an SSD, and if it fails, I want to be able to
>boot my computer from the internal backup hard drive which I have installed.
>
>As I attempted to do this "System Clone", ABS informed me that the
>ability to do so is limited to their "Pro" addition.
>
>Thinking that since my backup hard drive was originally my main drive
>and the one I actually installed Windows to, I naively believed that it
>would be bootable. To find out for sure though, I went into the BIOS and
>changed the boot order so that it was the second choice (after the DVD
>burner, of course.) It failed to boot.
>
>Regardless, I just thought that others who use Aomei Backupper Standard
>and who are unaware of this limitation might want to be aware of it.
>
>Now I am on the lookout for any freeware program which will clone the
>tiny "System" partition to my backup drive and also configure it so that
>the backup drive is also bootable. Any recommendations (freeware only
>please) are more than welcome.
>
>PS. Please do NOT attempt to divert this thread into a "backup methods"
>discussion. I know what I want to do and why, and have other reasons for
>doing things the way I do which are not open to debate.
>
>TIA
I've always used Clonezilla to clone my main computer's drive.
Since it also clones partitions, I can't see why it wouldn't clone all
the data AND the boot sector if you choose just "drive C" (or whatever
your system drive is called). Sounds like what you want.
Though I've never done partitions with it.
HTH
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AllanH
Mar 17, 2023, 2:05:29 PM3/17/23
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On 3/17/2023 10:56 AM, John C. wrote:
> I decided to use Aomei Backupper Standard to do what they refer to as a
> "System Clone". This is because I want my first hard drive to be able to
> boot. My main drive is an SSD, and if it fails, I want to be able to
> boot my computer from the internal backup hard drive which I have installed.
>
> As I attempted to do this "System Clone", ABS informed me that the
> ability to do so is limited to their "Pro" addition.
>
> Thinking that since my backup hard drive was originally my main drive
> and the one I actually installed Windows to, I naively believed that it
> would be bootable. To find out for sure though, I went into the BIOS and
> changed the boot order so that it was the second choice (after the DVD
> burner, of course.) It failed to boot.
>
> Regardless, I just thought that others who use Aomei Backupper Standard
> and who are unaware of this limitation might want to be aware of it.
>
> Now I am on the lookout for any freeware program which will clone the
> tiny "System" partition to my backup drive and also configure it so that
> the backup drive is also bootable. Any recommendations (freeware only
> please) are more than welcome.
>
> PS. Please do NOT attempt to divert this thread into a "backup methods"
> discussion. I know what I want to do and why, and have other reasons for
> doing things the way I do which are not open to debate.
>
> TIA
I posted an Update to EaseUS Todo Backup Free on 2/2.
> I decided to use Aomei Backupper Standard to do what they refer to as a
> "System Clone". This is because I want my first hard drive to be able to
> boot. My main drive is an SSD, and if it fails, I want to be able to
> boot my computer from the internal backup hard drive which I have installed.
>
> As I attempted to do this "System Clone", ABS informed me that the
> ability to do so is limited to their "Pro" addition.
>
> Thinking that since my backup hard drive was originally my main drive
> and the one I actually installed Windows to, I naively believed that it
> would be bootable. To find out for sure though, I went into the BIOS and
> changed the boot order so that it was the second choice (after the DVD
> burner, of course.) It failed to boot.
>
> Regardless, I just thought that others who use Aomei Backupper Standard
> and who are unaware of this limitation might want to be aware of it.
>
> Now I am on the lookout for any freeware program which will clone the
> tiny "System" partition to my backup drive and also configure it so that
> the backup drive is also bootable. Any recommendations (freeware only
> please) are more than welcome.
>
> PS. Please do NOT attempt to divert this thread into a "backup methods"
> discussion. I know what I want to do and why, and have other reasons for
> doing things the way I do which are not open to debate.
>
> TIA
I haven't needed to use it myself.
From SnapFiles:
"You can also use the software to migrate your system to a new hard disk
without the need to reinstall your operating system and applications."
https://www.snapfiles.com/get/easustodo.html
Home Page
https://www.easeus.com/backup-software/tb-free.html
There's an Offline Installer available that I checked out with
VirusTotal when I posted the Update.
https://www.mediaket.net/software/protection-tools/4450-easeus-todo-backup.html
John C.
Mar 17, 2023, 2:27:47 PM3/17/23
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order to get done what I need. Also, I wanted to warn you about this:
https://www.aomeitech.com/kb/backupper/Windows-stuct-at-loading-ambakdrv.html
which happened to me, and has now caused me several days of suffering
and stress until I was able to figure out what was causing the problem.
The program works, but it will NOT create a bootable drive unless you
pay them money. And since it completely hosed my system for a while, I
uninstalled Aomei Backupper Standard and have no intention of ever using
it again.
A shame too, since it was capable of incremental clones.
John C.
Mar 17, 2023, 2:53:23 PM3/17/23
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https://www.easeus.com/backup-software/tb-free.html
it doesn't do partition clones, which is what I need.
VanguardLH
Mar 17, 2023, 3:11:47 PM3/17/23
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"John C." <r9j...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I decided to use Aomei Backupper Standard to do what they refer to as
> a "System Clone". This is because I want my first hard drive to be
> able to boot. My main drive is an SSD, and if it fails, I want to be
> able to boot my computer from the internal backup hard drive which I
> have installed.
>
> As I attempted to do this "System Clone", ABS informed me that the
> ability to do so is limited to their "Pro" addition.
> ...
> I decided to use Aomei Backupper Standard to do what they refer to as
> a "System Clone". This is because I want my first hard drive to be
> able to boot. My main drive is an SSD, and if it fails, I want to be
> able to boot my computer from the internal backup hard drive which I
> have installed.
>
> As I attempted to do this "System Clone", ABS informed me that the
> ability to do so is limited to their "Pro" addition.
> Regardless, I just thought that others who use Aomei Backupper
> Standard and who are unaware of this limitation might want to be
> aware of it.
https://www.aomeitech.com/ab/standard.html
> Standard and who are unaware of this limitation might want to be
> aware of it.
That page shows feature comparisons between their editions. For "Disk
clone", the chart says "Partial" for their free edition. Hover over
"Partial" and you're told only data disk cloning is supported which
means the volume cannot be for the OS partition(s). "Sector-by-sector
Clone" might do what you want, but it will be very slow as every sector
gets copied, including those not currently assigned in the file table.
For there to be free and paid versions means the free version doesn't
have some of the features in the paid version. First thing I look for
is a editions comparison page, so I know what I'll be missing in the
free version. No free beer for you.
al
Mar 17, 2023, 3:18:25 PM3/17/23
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On 3/17/2023 11:56 AM, John C. wrote:
> I decided to use Aomei Backupper Standard to do what they refer to as a
> "System Clone". This is because I want my first hard drive to be able to
> boot. My main drive is an SSD, and if it fails, I want to be able to
> boot my computer from the internal backup hard drive which I have installed.
>
> As I attempted to do this "System Clone", ABS informed me that the
> ability to do so is limited to their "Pro" addition.
>
> Thinking that since my backup hard drive was originally my main drive
> and the one I actually installed Windows to, I naively believed that it
> would be bootable. To find out for sure though, I went into the BIOS and
> changed the boot order so that it was the second choice (after the DVD
> burner, of course.) It failed to boot.
>
> Regardless, I just thought that others who use Aomei Backupper Standard
> and who are unaware of this limitation might want to be aware of it.
>
> Now I am on the lookout for any freeware program which will clone the
> tiny "System" partition to my backup drive and also configure it so that
> the backup drive is also bootable. Any recommendations (freeware only
> please) are more than welcome.
>
> PS. Please do NOT attempt to divert this thread into a "backup methods"
> discussion. I know what I want to do and why, and have other reasons for
> doing things the way I do which are not open to debate.
>
> TIA
>
Forgive my ignorance (really) but doesn't this address the problem of a
> I decided to use Aomei Backupper Standard to do what they refer to as a
> "System Clone". This is because I want my first hard drive to be able to
> boot. My main drive is an SSD, and if it fails, I want to be able to
> boot my computer from the internal backup hard drive which I have installed.
>
> As I attempted to do this "System Clone", ABS informed me that the
> ability to do so is limited to their "Pro" addition.
>
> Thinking that since my backup hard drive was originally my main drive
> and the one I actually installed Windows to, I naively believed that it
> would be bootable. To find out for sure though, I went into the BIOS and
> changed the boot order so that it was the second choice (after the DVD
> burner, of course.) It failed to boot.
>
> Regardless, I just thought that others who use Aomei Backupper Standard
> and who are unaware of this limitation might want to be aware of it.
>
> Now I am on the lookout for any freeware program which will clone the
> tiny "System" partition to my backup drive and also configure it so that
> the backup drive is also bootable. Any recommendations (freeware only
> please) are more than welcome.
>
> PS. Please do NOT attempt to divert this thread into a "backup methods"
> discussion. I know what I want to do and why, and have other reasons for
> doing things the way I do which are not open to debate.
>
> TIA
>
failed drive and then subsequently allow a restore from previous clone?
https://www.ubackup.com/features/create-bootable-disc.html
VanguardLH
Mar 17, 2023, 3:32:06 PM3/17/23
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"John C." <r9j...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Now I am on the lookout for any freeware program which will clone the
> tiny "System" partition to my backup drive and also configure it so
> that the backup drive is also bootable. Any recommendations (freeware
> only please) are more than welcome.
AOMEI Backupper Standard support Windows 7, 8, 10, and 11. You didn't
> Now I am on the lookout for any freeware program which will clone the
> tiny "System" partition to my backup drive and also configure it so
> that the backup drive is also bootable. Any recommendations (freeware
> only please) are more than welcome.
mention which one you have.
Windows 10 comes with System Image; however, it can only be used to
clone to a larger drive. Also, it clones entire drives, not partitions.
https://pureinfotech.com/create-windows-10-system-image-backup/
That says "create a full backup to a USB drive. If true, you'd have to
get an external USB-attached case or an external USB adaptor in which to
temporarily mount or attach the backup drive, create the drive image
onto the USB drive, and install the USB drive inside your case. Of
course, if the BIOS in your computer's (also unidentified) BIOS lets you
boot from a USB drive, you could create the sysimage on the USB drive,
test if you can boot from the USB drive, and later upon failure of the
internal OS drive boot using the USB drive to clone back (but you'll
need 3rd party software at that point) onto a replacement internal
drive.
From the above article, they show saving a sysimage on Windows 7, so
maybe System Image is available on whichever Windows version you have.
https://www.google.com/search?q=windows+10+system+image
finds similar online help articles, like:
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-make-full-backup-windows-10
Personally I'd get 3rd-party backup software that has the features you
require. The computer cost money. So did the drives. Backup software
should be considered part of your tool box even if some of the tools
therein weren't free. Would you want a surgeon operating on you that
got a set of surgical tools for free with a purchase of Ginsu knives?
Free is nice, but too often won't have everything you want.
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