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John C.

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Oct 14, 2020, 4:57:39 AM10/14/20
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Check this out:

https://www.bizapedia.com/trademarks/aomei-backupper-86712122.html

Mark Identification: AOMEI BACKUPPER
Last Applicant/Owner: Chengdu Aomei Tech Co., Ltd.
Soho Business Port 302
Hongjixinroad No.5
Chengdu 61000

"Chengdu, alternatively romanized as Chengtu, is a sub-provincial city
which serves as the capital of the Chinese province of Sichuan. It is
one of the three most-populous cities in Western China."

The website also clearly says that the company's nationality is China.

This information was VERY difficult to locate. AOMEI does it's best to
flood the search engines with obfuscation, and it also doesn't disclose
that they're a Chinese company on their website.

https://www.aomeitech.com/

I will be removing their software from my computer, since running it
would be about as bad as trusting something from North Korea.

YMMV, but you're being foolish if it does.

--
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share, spy, time-limited, trial or web wares for me please. I filter out
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newsgroup at a time) messages. I recommend you do likewise.

Jenny Telia

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Oct 14, 2020, 7:13:16 AM10/14/20
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On 14/10/2020 10:57, John C. wrote:
> Check this out:
>
> https://www.bizapedia.com/trademarks/aomei-backupper-86712122.html
>
> Mark Identification: AOMEI BACKUPPER
> Last Applicant/Owner: Chengdu Aomei Tech Co., Ltd.
> Soho Business Port 302
> Hongjixinroad No.5
> Chengdu 61000
>
> "Chengdu, alternatively romanized as Chengtu, is a sub-provincial city
> which serves as the capital of the Chinese province of Sichuan. It is
> one of the three most-populous cities in Western China."
>
> The website also clearly says that the company's nationality is China.
>
> This information was VERY difficult to locate. AOMEI does it's best to
> flood the search engines with obfuscation, and it also doesn't disclose
> that they're a Chinese company on their website.
>
> https://www.aomeitech.com/
>
> I will be removing their software from my computer, since running it
> would be about as bad as trusting something from North Korea.
>
> YMMV, but you're being foolish if it does.
>

In the old days it used to be 'communists'. Now Yanks (like Corliss)
like to hate the Chinese.

I use Kaspersky (Russian) antivirus suite for my PC security, and AOMEI
(Chinese) for my backups.

I prefer both of these products to anything Trumpistan has to offer. The
latter is full of motherf*ckers who would sell their own grandmothers
for a buck. Only the very naive or the very stoopid put their trust in
Trumpistan.

Remember: Edward Snowden is taking refuge in Russia, not the USofA.

p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

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Oct 14, 2020, 7:43:30 AM10/14/20
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Flasherly

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Oct 14, 2020, 8:06:30 AM10/14/20
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 13:13:08 +0200, Jenny Telia <jnyt...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In the old days it used to be 'communists'. Now Yanks (like Corliss)
>like to hate the Chinese.
>
>I use Kaspersky (Russian) antivirus suite for my PC security, and AOMEI
>(Chinese) for my backups.
>
>I prefer both of these products to anything Trumpistan has to offer. The
>latter is full of motherf*ckers who would sell their own grandmothers
>for a buck. Only the very naive or the very stoopid put their trust in
>Trumpistan.
>
>Remember: Edward Snowden is taking refuge in Russia, not the USofA.

Software is increasingly epochal, from prohibitively 32-bit, to the
attempted redaction of software to 64-bit, to the capitalistic
legalese of Stacker's compressed drives to Microsoft direct pirating
for a Doublespace release, not least to include the relegated
technology of inferior capitalistic models based on private ventures,
the software of so-called political application of bureaucratic
modernity as instituted political aims of focus of the corporate
agenda, its sway and what coerciveness then may exhibit over the
demographics of populist democratic incentives, if in some lesser
degree the have communist regimes mollify;- A total disavowal of the
Chinese to Microsoft Windows 10, at the time a NSA directive had to
propose, that "all our (NSA) employees use Windows 10", in no small
degree is the result of handhelds and various "candied" microprocessor
sets, Android's operate from, in epochal response. A later aspect of
capitalistic marketing of Planned Obsolescence, a misnomer of
ascription to the reinventing of no doubt some earlier freeware solely
in form to a dismissive criteria incorporated for the World
Surveillance State, as aptly promoted no less prejudicially, if but
by a graphic-user interface no differently from functional performance
of prior freeware artifacts. Remember, if all the more easier last
week, when a Congressional report likened key-players of
disproportionate wealth and presiding control of technology, a
direction of as much application given them further means science,
over some sense a few centuries at least would like to emancipate its
designs apart, to that of creeds and cults for whom a manner of
"assassins" implicate.

Altogether apart, to be sure, an actorly role of actually intelligent
men, as prior instances certainly would qualify, whom have assumed the
office of president, only to learn to act to speak-down to address the
populist mentality of average 11-year-olds comprising a democratic mob
-- whose assumption, it is, that a god-given right technology will
continue to provide them every whimsical commodity, of course
capitalistically marketable, for whatever it continues to take and for
howsoever long as that is necessary to burn the earth into a
cinder-puff over so short a space, historically speaking, of mankind's
image and making of himself.

John C.

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Oct 14, 2020, 10:40:22 AM10/14/20
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Read this article:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/meghara/the-police-state-of-the-future-is-already-here

and then tell me how much you love China.

As for Russian software, well... if it's ransomware, I'll pass.
Otherwise, I don't have a problem with most of their stuff.

China, on the other hand, is a dystopian police state from hell.

Yes, I admit that the U.S. is no longer the land of the free (yesterday,
I downloaded a copy of our passport application and was horrified), but
it still doesn't even come remotely close to what China has become.

MikeS

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Oct 14, 2020, 10:44:45 AM10/14/20
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On 14/10/2020 09:57, John C. wrote:
> Check this out:
>
> https://www.bizapedia.com/trademarks/aomei-backupper-86712122.html
>
> Mark Identification: AOMEI BACKUPPER
> Last Applicant/Owner: Chengdu Aomei Tech Co., Ltd.
> Soho Business Port 302
> Hongjixinroad No.5
> Chengdu 61000
>
> "Chengdu, alternatively romanized as Chengtu, is a sub-provincial city
> which serves as the capital of the Chinese province of Sichuan. It is
> one of the three most-populous cities in Western China."
>
> The website also clearly says that the company's nationality is China.
>
> This information was VERY difficult to locate. AOMEI does it's best to
> flood the search engines with obfuscation, and it also doesn't disclose
> that they're a Chinese company on their website.
>
> https://www.aomeitech.com/
>
> I will be removing their software from my computer, since running it
> would be about as bad as trusting something from North Korea.
>
> YMMV, but you're being foolish if it does.
>
In that case I suggest you also dump your computers, phones and most
other electronic devices. It is highly likely that all or part of each
one originated in that "hellhole of human misery" as you like to call it.

MikeS

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Oct 14, 2020, 10:49:59 AM10/14/20
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It is of course true that in China you do not have the right to be mown
down by an upright citizen defending his or her right to bear arms.

John C.

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Oct 14, 2020, 10:52:07 AM10/14/20
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Then why don't you move there, Mike?

MikeS

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Oct 14, 2020, 10:57:59 AM10/14/20
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I would be tempted John if I lived anywhere near you in the USA.

John C.

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Oct 14, 2020, 11:02:47 AM10/14/20
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So let me get this straight... I RIGHTFULLY criticize a country for
being a police state (and let's not forget about their concentration
camps) and that makes me a horrible person.

It always saddens me when I communicate with a person who's suffering so
badly from rectal-cranial inversion.

Theo Doolittle

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Oct 14, 2020, 11:59:31 AM10/14/20
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On 14/10/2020 14:06, Flasherly wrote:

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>

Nicodemus

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Oct 14, 2020, 12:23:53 PM10/14/20
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"John C." <r9j...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:rm6eht$ovi$1...@dont-email.me:

> Check this out:
>
> https://www.bizapedia.com/trademarks/aomei-backupper-86712122.html
>
> Mark Identification: AOMEI BACKUPPER
> Last Applicant/Owner: Chengdu Aomei Tech Co., Ltd.
> Soho Business Port 302
> Hongjixinroad No.5
> Chengdu 61000
>
> "Chengdu, alternatively romanized as Chengtu, is a sub-provincial city
> which serves as the capital of the Chinese province of Sichuan. It is
> one of the three most-populous cities in Western China."
>
> The website also clearly says that the company's nationality is China.
>
> This information was VERY difficult to locate. AOMEI does it's best to
> flood the search engines with obfuscation, and it also doesn't disclose
> that they're a Chinese company on their website.
>
> https://www.aomeitech.com/
>
> I will be removing their software from my computer, since running it
> would be about as bad as trusting something from North Korea.
>
> YMMV, but you're being foolish if it does.
>

Have you looked into how much Microsoft has invested in this company?

VanguardLH

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Oct 14, 2020, 2:22:12 PM10/14/20
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While Chile has the most lithium, China leads lithium batteries
production (73%) followed by the USA (12%). Guess John will have to
forego lithium batteries and go back to NiCads. With the USA's trade
deficit with China, USA has become a 3rd world country (shipping raw
materials) versus China that makes products.

Yeah, lets completely ignore a company's track history, and go flag
waving while ignoring all the faults of one's own country. USA is a
5-Eyes country, and they can issue NSLs (National Security Letters) to
gag a company by court order not to reveal that they've been forced to
log their users, spy on them, or anything else the NSL dictates, and why
users looking for secure privacy find providers outside the USA and
other 5-Eye countries.

John whines about AOMEI with his flag bashing regardless of past
performance of a company. Wonder if he also uses any Easeus software
(Chinaware), Macrium (Britishware), Avast (Czechware) or its
acquisitions, Igor Pavlov's 7-zip (Russianware) or anything else hosted
at Sourceforge or Github which are often a worldwide distribute group of
developers, including Chinese, em Client (Czechware), Alibaba (Chinese,
world's largest e-commerce retailer), Foxit PDF (Chineseware), Kingsoft
Office Suite (Chineseware), and so on. Wonder which smartphone John
has. Bet it was made or it components were made in China, so he is
financially supporting the Chinese gov't by supporting the companies
that operate or are headquartered in China. Guess John will have to
toss most of his China-made clothes, TVs and other electronics, tools,
space heaters, and everything in his home that was made in China. Hell,
he might have to give up his home since the drywall and steel might've
come from China. Guess he'll have to start walking barefoot to
everywhere he goes, including vacations, since cars, planes, and
sneakers can have components from China. John has declared that
anything from China just must be evil. He professes to becoming a
Chinese-vegan.

John has no proof (because he doesn't have the expertise or drive) that
AIOMEI does anything untoward to its users. He's just flag waving.
Maybe if he revealed his flag, others would point out all the shit his
country has and is doing. He judges individuals and companies based on
gov't bashing: if the gov't is evil then so must everyone there be evil.
After all, lots of companies based elsewhere do business in and have
corporate offices in China, so they just must be complicit with the
Chinese gov't, too. After all, there is Mozilla China, so John just
must give up using anything Mozilla, like his NNTP client (Thunderbird).
After all, if they're doing business in China then they just must be
helping that gov't. Uh huh.

John is the only person before he was born got to choose his sex,
height, economic status, sexual orientation, hair and eye colors, dick
length, skin color and other genetic factors, religions of his parents,
and even his country of his birth. His spirit got to write on a
blackboard just who, what and where he would be when born. Yeah,
everyone moves out of their country when they decide to produce
something used by others, uh huh. Guess John does not realize how he is
seen by others: immature and non-professional. Maybe John lives in the
USA and doesn't like his country is waning while China and India will
become the world powers. Maybe he's scared the Chinese will leverage
the USA's huge trade deficit (now over $350B USD) against the USA, and
maybe buyout USA companies to settle the deficit that the US keeps
growing.

So, John, when you going to come out with a movie about "The Evil
Empire: War is the Only Way to Dissolve Our Huge Deficit"?

Bill Day

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Oct 14, 2020, 3:34:32 PM10/14/20
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 13:22:04 -0500, VanguardLH <V...@nguard.LH> wrote:

>MikeS <Mi...@fred.com> wrote:
>
>> On 14/10/2020 09:57, John C. wrote:
>>> Check this out:
>>>
>>> https://www.bizapedia.com/trademarks/aomei-backupper-86712122.html
>>>
>>> Mark Identification: AOMEI BACKUPPER
>>> Last Applicant/Owner: Chengdu Aomei Tech Co., Ltd.
>>> Soho Business Port 302
>>> Hongjixinroad No.5
>>> Chengdu 61000
>>>
>>> "Chengdu, alternatively romanized as Chengtu, is a sub-provincial city
>>> which serves as the capital of the Chinese province of Sichuan. It is
>>> one of the three most-populous cities in Western China."
>>>
>>> The website also clearly says that the company's nationality is China.
>>>
>>> This information was VERY difficult to locate. AOMEI does it's best to
>>> flood the search engines with obfuscation, and it also doesn't disclose
>>> that they're a Chinese company on their website.
>>>
>>> https://www.aomeitech.com/
>>>
>>> I will be removing their software from my computer, since running it
>>> would be about as bad as trusting something from North Korea.
>>>
>>> YMMV, but you're being foolish if it does.
>>>
>> In that case I suggest you also dump your computers, phones and most
>> other electronic devices. It is highly likely that all or part of each
>> one originated in that "hellhole of human misery" as you like to call it.
>
*large cliip*
>growing.
>
>So, John, when you going to come out with a movie about "The Evil
>Empire: War is the Only Way to Dissolve Our Huge Deficit"?
I suspect his reply to all that will be fairly short..... and he
doesn't use a smart phone...
--
remove nonsense for reply

Nicodemus

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Oct 14, 2020, 5:54:19 PM10/14/20
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VanguardLH <V...@nguard.LH> wrote in news:f2dan6cp...@v.nguard.lh:
Great NEWS portal, If i tried to encapuslate you vlh, what title do you
prefer, long winded drunk, or some some individual who wishes to speak
his/her cultural mind.

Tell me in your closest dreams, the best machines have not been able to
penetrates the Vail of Death

Shadow

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Oct 14, 2020, 8:06:22 PM10/14/20
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 01:57:25 -0700, "John C." <r9j...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Check this out:
>
>https://www.bizapedia.com/trademarks/aomei-backupper-86712122.html
>
>Mark Identification: AOMEI BACKUPPER
>Last Applicant/Owner: Chengdu Aomei Tech Co., Ltd.
> Soho Business Port 302
> Hongjixinroad No.5
> Chengdu 61000
>
>"Chengdu, alternatively romanized as Chengtu, is a sub-provincial city
>which serves as the capital of the Chinese province of Sichuan. It is
>one of the three most-populous cities in Western China."
>
>The website also clearly says that the company's nationality is China.
>
>This information was VERY difficult to locate. AOMEI does it's best to
>flood the search engines with obfuscation, and it also doesn't disclose
>that they're a Chinese company on their website.
>
>https://www.aomeitech.com/
>
>I will be removing their software from my computer, since running it
>would be about as bad as trusting something from North Korea.
>
>YMMV, but you're being foolish if it does.

I know. The software is hosted on American servers, where any
malware can be added by "secret court orders". I doubt AOMEI will
complain, the US is one of their main markets. They don't want the
treatment Kaspersky got ....
Did you know one of the modules in the download is a Google
tracker? Not very Chinese of them.
Whatever....
Best not to trust ANY software. Or hardware.
IMHO.
[]'s

--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

Shadow

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Oct 14, 2020, 8:19:22 PM10/14/20
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FaceKook has software that matches cats to their slaves.

To humans:
Post a picture of your master on FaceKook and you are Scr3w3d.
You have been warned.

John C.

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Oct 15, 2020, 12:31:32 AM10/15/20
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Fuck you, VanguardLH. I won't even bother to go through all the bullshit
you included in that rant above with one exception:

I *NEVER* "declared that anything from China just must be evil". Saying
that I did is just pure nonsense and you know it.

Like I told MikeS, if you love China so much, maybe you should move
there. Or maybe that's where you already live? Maybe you're sending out
email from one of their "re-education camps" as they rubber hose your ass.

John C.

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Oct 15, 2020, 12:36:09 AM10/15/20
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Sad, but probably true.

"Behind Winston's back the voice from the telescreen was still babbling
away about pig-iron and the overfulfilment of the Ninth Three-Year Plan.
The telescreen received and transmitted simultaneously. Any sound that
Winston made, above the level of a very low whisper, would be picked up
by it, moreover, so long as he remained within the field of vision which
the metal plaque commanded, he could be seen as well as heard. There was
of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given
moment. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on
any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they
watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your
wire whenever they wanted to. You had to live — did live, from habit
that became instinct — in the assumption that every sound you made was
overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized."

Coming to a country where you reside...

John C.

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Oct 15, 2020, 1:07:46 AM10/15/20
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John C. wrote:
> Check this out:
>
> https://www.bizapedia.com/trademarks/aomei-backupper-86712122.html
>
> Mark Identification: AOMEI BACKUPPER
> Last Applicant/Owner: Chengdu Aomei Tech Co., Ltd.
> Soho Business Port 302
> Hongjixinroad No.5
> Chengdu 61000
>
> "Chengdu, alternatively romanized as Chengtu, is a sub-provincial city
> which serves as the capital of the Chinese province of Sichuan. It is
> one of the three most-populous cities in Western China."
>
> The website also clearly says that the company's nationality is China.
>
> This information was VERY difficult to locate. AOMEI does it's best to
> flood the search engines with obfuscation, and it also doesn't disclose
> that they're a Chinese company on their website.
>
> https://www.aomeitech.com/
>
> I will be removing their software from my computer, since running it
> would be about as bad as trusting something from North Korea.
>
> YMMV, but you're being foolish if it does.

Here's a reply I got from AOMEI this morning:

> Hi John C,
>
> Thank you so much for contacting us and sorry for the inconvenience.
> ​
> The following is our company location.
> ​
> RM.502, NEW CITY CENTRE, 2 LEI YUE MUN ROAD, KWUN TONG, KOWLOON.HK, China

So then, I have to wonder why they hide that information on their
website and why you can't (at least I couldn't) find it anywhere on the
internet. At this point, Hong Kong is still considered by most of the
world not to be part of China, but that's incorrect. It's actually
called a "special administrative region of the PRC. But under that 'One
Country, Two Systems' principle, Hong Kong retains a great deal of
autonomy. Hong Kong has its own anthem, flag, passports, legal system,
parliamentary system, and currency."

p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

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Oct 15, 2020, 6:46:51 AM10/15/20
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It's here for all the good that it's doing. Yunno that thing about cats
where we are always right? Well here's my take. All the surveillance,
regulation, and restrictions imposed by the state is akin to
cholesterol. It's been clogging the arteries of the UK for years. The
politicians are running out of groups to blame. They wiped out the
wrinklies, the boomers fought back, and now the youth are learning how
that feels as we are guided to point our fingers in their direction.
OMG! it'll be the cats next! I never did nuttin'.

Mick Finnlay

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Oct 15, 2020, 7:09:23 AM10/15/20
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"p-0''0-h the cat (coder)" <super...@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> wrote:

> They wiped out the
> wrinklies, the boomers fought back, and now the youth are learning how
> that feels as we are guided to point our fingers in their direction.
> OMG! it'll be the cats next! I never did nuttin'.

Your tirade reminds me of that old Chumbawamba ditty (though the lyrics
are by Martin Niemöller):

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out - because I
was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did
not speak out - because I was not a Trade Unionists. Then they came for
the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew. Then they
came for me - and there was no one left to speak for me."

--
Mick

VanguardLH

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Oct 15, 2020, 7:20:11 AM10/15/20
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Yep, a child responds.

p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

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Oct 15, 2020, 7:34:06 AM10/15/20
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Yep, it never ceases to amaze me how politicians endlessly recycle the
same old and get away with it. How stultifyingly predictable and
uncreative are they, but I guess it works to divert the great unwashed
into looking for someone weaker to blame instead of looking for a
solution that passes the laugh test [If someone proposes a solution that
makes you laugh trust your gut. It will never be delivered]. Call me a
cynic but lessons are never learnt. The only thing that seems to be
learnt by politicians nowadays is how to regurgitate one liners and pick
up a fat wage check.

p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

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Oct 15, 2020, 8:16:46 AM10/15/20
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 21:17:36 -0300, Shadow <S...@dow.br> wrote:

>>Nobody is spying on the cats.
>
> FaceKook has software that matches cats to their slaves.

So? It just furthers the cause of cat by endearing us to a larger target
audience and it doesn't cost us a dime. How do we pull this off asks
every marketing department in every major commercial enterprise on the
planet. Answer: Just phone Shit the cat for full details of his new
revealing seminar "Cat tricks for the busy marketing exec who wants to
get noticed". Only $245,000 a ticket. Amazing value! All major credit
cards taken. No bitcoin.

> To humans:
> Post a picture of your master on FaceKook and you are Scr3w3d.

I am struggling to adopt a pussy face that cares..... Nope. Complete
fail.

Flasherly

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Oct 15, 2020, 11:01:37 AM10/15/20
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 13:13:08 +0200, Jenny Telia <jnyt...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>I use Kaspersky (Russian) antivirus suite for my PC security, and AOMEI
>(Chinese) for my backups.

The Chinese, by dint of the inflections of language and dialects, can
be cited scientifically within study evaluations which have
ascertained as a cultural idioms to hear tonal nuances actually better
than people speaking in prototypical Indo-European Western dialects.
Yet it is the Russians that curiously have provided some of the most
astute software for musical reproduction, least to discount post- or
pre-processing aides of computer modulated audio augmentation, that,
largely since are superceded yet by the Chinese, over a seminal German
MP3 approach to modeling, whereupon the Xiph.Org Foundation's FLAC
redactions enter for a reduction, psychoacoustically speaking (1), at
a five-fold increase of MP3's 320KByte-rates of common 16-bit depth,
if anything then closer to a consequent Western broadcasting standard,
originating perhaps at the University of California, Berkeley, in
conjunction of course with early television and an entropy of
dissimilarities between individual photographic frames of motion, as a
standard of ciinematical reproduction to consume by a blackhole in the
wall of modernity;- 24-bits FLAC being another fivefold increase of
depth perhaps affecting more dynamically a range and impact of what
16-bits adequately seems to contain in subtractive sideband-imaging
given directional microphonic imagery, in upper-frequencies for
channeled standards, that have continued largely in spirit to
encompass an original stereophonical genius of Brian Wilson(2) and
Paul McCartney's contributions to the modern multi-tracking stage of
isolated studio soundrooms.

-
(1) I'm fixing a hole where the rain gets in: It stops my mind from a
wandering where it will go. -McCartney

(2) 'Murray, my dad and our manager, made me squat on the dining-room
table, to shit on a newspaper, in front of mom.' -Wouldn't It Be Nice:
My Own Story [Wilson's disowned autobiography published in 1991.]

Nicodemus

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Oct 15, 2020, 6:02:50 PM10/15/20
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Flasherly <Flas...@live.com> wrote in
news:v8mgof1t8rpkmf9e1...@4ax.com:
Is this a good time to bring up alternative methods fro backing up?

John consider a hardware device that you can plug 2 sata hard drives and
copy them in short order.

If backup is all your looking for look into that wavelink device , it
copied a 500TB SSD to a 500GB SSD in 10 miniuts, and the copy booted up.

How many differing cultures are we talking about?

Have yet to play with LMMS, high on my list, and so far as I have used
it it played my original compositions close, what was missing my creative
ability to get into the music and guide the next music,is music
considered an art?

The finest art was sculpture in good marble, as art declined and the arts
were discouraged, lesser forms of paintings emerged but throught this
decline music contidued to to fill the gathering places, tell me Flas
what is your business has it to do with some subliminal message where you
were conviced

Flasherly

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Oct 15, 2020, 7:06:42 PM10/15/20
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 22:02:42 +0000 (UTC), Nicodemus
<Ancient...@Heaven.Net> wrote:

>If backup is all your looking for look into that wavelink device , it
>copied a 500TB SSD to a 500GB SSD in 10 miniuts, and the copy booted up.

SATA-to-USB converter plugs are advertised for laptops, intended for
supplemental storage, to a SSD drive requiring no power other than a
USB connection. Some wires basically between, in this point of view,
are to be seen for SATA and USB port connections.

Take a cardboard shoebox, now, size 12 shoes, and stuff it with up to
9 SSD drives, added within the box to the length of the longest
powered USB HUB, (splurge a couple dollars over the unpowered HUB
versions);- Up to each of the 9 USB ports, discretionarily for as many
converter SSD-USB adaptors as required. For example 9 Korean Samsung
Pro Evo 1G SDD models, at $200/US each, is $1600/US for an
write-redundancy of say x2000 versus 3D Samsung NAND at x500
redundancy for $100/US a unit.

That's still $400 less than a Microsoft Hyper-V configurable RAID
server tower. But since this my freeware idea about a cardboard box,
I've given you, I will esteem it to credible and upstanding character
allowances that you see fit to donate, shall we say half, for $200, at
a generous allowance for the adaptors and hub purchase, in deference
to my overwhelming humanitarianism given to provide you this
invaluable information in a present circumstance of freeware.

Standard Disclaimer: You're satisfaction, as always, is a measure and
guarantee of our concern for you, for so long and if it ever works.

Maurice Helwig

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Oct 15, 2020, 11:25:08 PM10/15/20
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John I believe that what you have said above about Hong Kong was an
agreement between UK and China when HK was handed over at the end of the
99 year lease (in 1999 I believe). This Two systems principle is to
continue until 2049 I believe. After that I guess HK will be absorbed
int China proper -- who knows

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Maurice Helwig
~~~~~~~~~~~~

John C.

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Oct 16, 2020, 1:47:53 AM10/16/20
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VanguardLH wrote:
> John C. wrote:
>> VanguardLH wrote:
No, somebody who isn't going to play an asshole's game responds.

John C.

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Oct 16, 2020, 1:53:07 AM10/16/20
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I was just quoting from here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_administrative_regions_of_China

There's more information there about the topic.

And for what it's worth, I don't have as big a problem with AOMEI now,
knowing that it's from Hong King rather than Beijing.

John C.

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Oct 16, 2020, 1:54:27 AM10/16/20
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PS. Talk about childish, why don't you go back and re-read your diatribe.

p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

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Oct 16, 2020, 3:22:43 AM10/16/20
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 22:52:52 -0700, "John C." <r9j...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>And for what it's worth, I don't have as big a problem with AOMEI now,
>knowing that it's from Hong King rather than Beijing.

I feel the same about Alaska.

Nicodemus

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Oct 16, 2020, 8:16:01 AM10/16/20
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Flasherly <Flas...@live.com> wrote in
news:rqjhofpm3mvq62o5k...@4ax.com:
What you describe could be done for much less shekels.
https://www.amazon.com/Drive-Adapter-Cable-Support-
Black/dp/B07S9CKV7X/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3PMXOMZ1S6U4K&dchild=1
&keywords=sata+to+usb+3.0+adapter&qid=1602850334&sprefix=sata+to+usb%
2Caps%2C183&sr=8-3

This is a sata to usb 3.0 adaptor, add to that a decent powered usb hub
and then the cost of the ssd drives, WD SSD 500GB are selling for $55
each.

This account has been terminated due to multiple or severe violations of
YouTube's policy prohibiting content designed to harass, bully or
threaten.

Flasherly

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Oct 16, 2020, 10:40:16 AM10/16/20
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Rather, what I do not as much perhaps might describe;- but you get the
idea.

I've heard mixed reviews with at times USB3 devices, adaptors, HUBs,
whatever. I'd of course go with USB3 after looking them over, which I
have. There really shouldn't be a mark-up over USB2, and everything
mentioned prior is, as you say, in the "sweet spot": People can't get
enough of their handhelds and portable devices, if then fundamentally
a storage solution, apart from a complex desktop equipped for a
Developers Platform with LINUX and Oracle on top for running multiple
instances of Microsoft's prior Windows releases. Mainstream USB3
hubs, then it is, on a penny budget.

WD, its subsidiary Sandisc, of course are popular, although it's
probably the safety and representation. And SSDs aren't cutting
anyone anywhere any slack. Not until direct-Chinese brands, where
experiences vary, notably with manufacturer treatment of customers and
usually quite afar from mainstream SDDs commanding the largest
purchase shares -- WD, Samsung, IBM. WD is closed-mouth, though,
except for enterprise-class drives, they won't provide for
inconsistencies or general specifications between their consumer rated
SSDs. I'd as soon not do customer support, besides, which is why both
my last two 1T are Samsungs: an intermediary EVO and the VNAND model
below with a quarter write redundancy of the former;- they cost
exactly the same to me, as SSDs are not a "buyer's market", but
exactly the opposite of SSD adaptors and HUBs. In other words, WD, to
me, is still shit at least compared to Samsung;- and WD isn't giving
you anything but shine-ola for not telling you what the controller or
memory-logic states are for $55. The exact amount, for what its
worth, I paid, again, for both Samsungs: The Pro model was a timed
sales inducement, I jumped into, whereas the second, non-pro VNAND
model, occurred as a result of grabbing my ass-cheeks for added
protection when threatened by SMART errors on a traditional 2T HDD,
which the long-run ChkDsk for errors reallocated to "zero-in" that
SMART field, and which haven't come back, so far -- Reallocation
Sector Pending Counts: Danger Will Robinson!

(You still rocking-out with YouTube? I got there on bad hairdo days
to watch Pakistanis do takedowns and reassembly of things like my
front-loading Samsung washing machine. Blessed, I guess, be Google.
The tubber's total control-panel module, by inference if not an exact
matched model availability, or what feels like a continuous
inductive-coupled main-cycle roller switch begins slipping past
stops;- then again it could be a plastic friction coupling with worn
edges. No need to be tempted with any further pulling or yanking yet,
as it's still more less working within allowable slippage for a
10-year-old product.)

John C.

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Oct 17, 2020, 5:10:07 AM10/17/20
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p-0''0-h the cat (coder) wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 22:52:52 -0700, "John C." <r9j...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> And for what it's worth, I don't have as big a problem with AOMEI now,
>> knowing that it's from Hong King rather than Beijing.
>
> I feel the same about Alaska.

Me too.

John C.

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Oct 17, 2020, 5:18:59 AM10/17/20
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Yrrah wrote:
> Maurice Helwig wrote:
>
>> John I believe that what you have said above about Hong Kong was an
>> agreement between UK and China when HK was handed over at the end of the
>> 99 year lease (in 1999 I believe). This Two systems principle is to
>> continue until 2049 I believe. After that I guess HK will be absorbed
>> int China proper
>
> Looks like the power-mad dictator and his cronies don't want to wait
> that long. And with plenty of concentration camps already in place,
> they can and eventually will lock up ("re-educate") Hong Kong citizens
> who don't want to live in a dictatorship.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps
>
> <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/16/thousands-of-uighur-children-orphaned-by-chinese-detention-papers-show>
>
> <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/16/china-ambassador-makes-veiled-threat-to-hong-kong-based-canadians>

I read somewhere that they already are doing it. That people in Hong
Kong have been "disappeared".
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