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Skybuck Flying
Aug 9, 2015, 9:28:08 AM8/9/15
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Hello,
Here is a conceptual thought for you to help you discover the origin of
life.
The idea came from the following conclusion:
There is not enough processing power to try evolution by itself. Too many
combinations, too much randomness required... random number generators and
so forth.
(So (perhaps) the computional model for evolution (used so far) seems to be
wrong, in other words: trying to write an evolver yourself).
This leads to the following question:
Why ? And how much processing power is necessary ? How much processing power
does EARTH have if we do live in a computer-ized universe ?
How much processing power would be required to simulate each atom of EARTH ?
^ BINGO ^
That could be the answer... instead of trying to pour/create an evolver...
instead simply simulate/generate the universe around us... and then...
...WAIT FOR IT....
... here it comes...:
SEE IF LIFE STARTS TO LIFE/EVOLVE by it's own.
So basically the idea is (computationally/model) wise kinda "simple":
Simulate every atom and see what this leads too...
Let the simulation run by itself... and see if life spontanously develops
from all those atoms bumping against each other.
However I do see a bit of a problem with it:
The make up of earth is not generic or random or simply some atoms here and
there...
EARTH itself also kinda "evolved" from gravitional pull and so forth...
And heat processes... and so forth...
However... it might still be easier to simply simulate an entire universe or
galaxy... or gas cloud... full of atoms...
Perhaps even energy strings/god particles and what not discovered by large
hyrdron collider... and let that run...
Then trying to write an evolver yourself...
So the idea is basically:
Let the evolver be written by the simulated universe itself... let life be
developed by the simulated universe itself.
Perhaps running such a simulation will evolve life faster... then trying to
create it yourself.
It might also shed some light on where we come from.
For example if EARTH is simulated very well... and life still does not
evolve by it's own... then there would be a problem ? Wouldn't there be ? ;)
:)
Comets, water from outspace... gas clouds... it would all need to be
simulated...
The sun and so forth.
However perhaps it's much easier... to simulate billions of atoms/energy
strings/quarks... then some kind of complex evolver...
So I think this idea... of going onto a much lower level and see how that
interacts could be interesting ! ;)
Perhaps a quantum computer can simulate many atoms/energy strings... or
perhaps not at all ! ;) :)
For now I will assume that we do not have the computational power to
simulate a small universe or earth... or perhaps I am wrong... perhaps we
already have big data center capable of that...
But whatever the case may be... I leave you with this simply little idea...
If our search for life in space fails... and we will never discover where we
came from in the real universe...
Then at least this leaves the option on the table... to simply simulate
it... and take conclusions from that ! ;) =D
Bye,
Skybuck.
Here is a conceptual thought for you to help you discover the origin of
life.
The idea came from the following conclusion:
There is not enough processing power to try evolution by itself. Too many
combinations, too much randomness required... random number generators and
so forth.
(So (perhaps) the computional model for evolution (used so far) seems to be
wrong, in other words: trying to write an evolver yourself).
This leads to the following question:
Why ? And how much processing power is necessary ? How much processing power
does EARTH have if we do live in a computer-ized universe ?
How much processing power would be required to simulate each atom of EARTH ?
^ BINGO ^
That could be the answer... instead of trying to pour/create an evolver...
instead simply simulate/generate the universe around us... and then...
...WAIT FOR IT....
... here it comes...:
SEE IF LIFE STARTS TO LIFE/EVOLVE by it's own.
So basically the idea is (computationally/model) wise kinda "simple":
Simulate every atom and see what this leads too...
Let the simulation run by itself... and see if life spontanously develops
from all those atoms bumping against each other.
However I do see a bit of a problem with it:
The make up of earth is not generic or random or simply some atoms here and
there...
EARTH itself also kinda "evolved" from gravitional pull and so forth...
And heat processes... and so forth...
However... it might still be easier to simply simulate an entire universe or
galaxy... or gas cloud... full of atoms...
Perhaps even energy strings/god particles and what not discovered by large
hyrdron collider... and let that run...
Then trying to write an evolver yourself...
So the idea is basically:
Let the evolver be written by the simulated universe itself... let life be
developed by the simulated universe itself.
Perhaps running such a simulation will evolve life faster... then trying to
create it yourself.
It might also shed some light on where we come from.
For example if EARTH is simulated very well... and life still does not
evolve by it's own... then there would be a problem ? Wouldn't there be ? ;)
:)
Comets, water from outspace... gas clouds... it would all need to be
simulated...
The sun and so forth.
However perhaps it's much easier... to simulate billions of atoms/energy
strings/quarks... then some kind of complex evolver...
So I think this idea... of going onto a much lower level and see how that
interacts could be interesting ! ;)
Perhaps a quantum computer can simulate many atoms/energy strings... or
perhaps not at all ! ;) :)
For now I will assume that we do not have the computational power to
simulate a small universe or earth... or perhaps I am wrong... perhaps we
already have big data center capable of that...
But whatever the case may be... I leave you with this simply little idea...
If our search for life in space fails... and we will never discover where we
came from in the real universe...
Then at least this leaves the option on the table... to simply simulate
it... and take conclusions from that ! ;) =D
Bye,
Skybuck.
Skybuck Flying
Aug 9, 2015, 9:30:53 AM8/9/15
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This little theory leads to the funny conclusion... that our own universe
might already be an attempt from another civilization to find the origin of
life.
Perhaps they are sifting through billions and billions of data... to try and
find us... perhaps some day they will find us...
What they will do then ? I don't know... I fear they will simply halt the
simulation ! LOL.
Bye,
Skybuck =D
might already be an attempt from another civilization to find the origin of
life.
Perhaps they are sifting through billions and billions of data... to try and
find us... perhaps some day they will find us...
What they will do then ? I don't know... I fear they will simply halt the
simulation ! LOL.
Bye,
Skybuck =D
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno
Aug 9, 2015, 11:05:37 AM8/9/15
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Tauno Voipio
Aug 10, 2015, 5:43:13 AM8/10/15
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the Galaxy). Go back and read all five volumes of the trilogy first.
--
-TV
David Brown
Aug 10, 2015, 6:49:05 AM8/10/15
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entertainment - but it is not a documentary, nor a prediction of the future.
Skybuck Flying
Aug 10, 2015, 1:58:06 PM8/10/15
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"
It seems that you have been reading Douglas Adams (Hitchhiker's Guide to
the Galaxy). Go back and read all five volumes of the trilogy first.
"
Nope, some questions:
It seems that you have been reading Douglas Adams (Hitchhiker's Guide to
the Galaxy). Go back and read all five volumes of the trilogy first.
"
1. Did hey describe a simulation of the universe ?
That would not surprise me much.
2. Did hey describe finding life in the artificial universe ? Or observing
evolution ?
That would surprise me a little bit ;) :)
Bye,
Skybuck.
Nomen Nescio
Aug 14, 2015, 6:10:08 PM8/14/15
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In article <154cd$55c75568$5419aafe$63...@news.ziggo.nl>
> Here is a conceptual thought for you ....
As opposed to those non-conceptual throughts.
> Here is a conceptual thought for you ....
As opposed to those non-conceptual throughts.
Paul Hovnanian P.E.
Aug 16, 2015, 12:49:03 PM8/16/15
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Our universe is a computer simulation, run by a life-form that exists in a
higher dimensional space.
When she wipes the disk to install Windows 10, we're all gone.
--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:Pa...@Hovnanian.com
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All men are mortal. Socrates was mortal. Therefore, all men are Socrates.
-- Woody Allen
higher dimensional space.
When she wipes the disk to install Windows 10, we're all gone.
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Paul Hovnanian mailto:Pa...@Hovnanian.com
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All men are mortal. Socrates was mortal. Therefore, all men are Socrates.
-- Woody Allen
BugHunter
Aug 16, 2015, 1:14:19 PM8/16/15
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Paul Hovnanian P.E. <pa...@hovnanian.com> schreef op Zo 16 Aug 2015 om 09:48:
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Bye, BugHunter.
> Our universe is a computer simulation, run by a life-form that exists in a
> higher dimensional space.
>
> When she wipes the disk to install Windows 10, we're all gone.
They use Windows 908743932.
> higher dimensional space.
>
> When she wipes the disk to install Windows 10, we're all gone.
--
____________________________________________
Bye, BugHunter.
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno
Aug 16, 2015, 1:58:07 PM8/16/15
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 09:48:52 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
<pa...@hovnanian.com> Gave us:
>Our universe is a computer simulation, run by a life-form that exists in a
>higher dimensional space.
>
>When she wipes the disk to install Windows 10, we're all gone.
She needs to install the mimosa hostilis root bark integrator applet
first.
<pa...@hovnanian.com> Gave us:
>Our universe is a computer simulation, run by a life-form that exists in a
>higher dimensional space.
>
>When she wipes the disk to install Windows 10, we're all gone.
first.
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno
Aug 16, 2015, 1:59:39 PM8/16/15
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 19:13:43 +0200, BugHunter <bugh...@com.invalid>
Gave us:
>Paul Hovnanian P.E. <pa...@hovnanian.com> schreef op Zo 16 Aug 2015 om 09:48:
>> Our universe is a computer simulation, run by a life-form that exists in a
>> higher dimensional space.
>>
>> When she wipes the disk to install Windows 10, we're all gone.
>
>
>They use Windows 908743932.
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Gave us:
>Paul Hovnanian P.E. <pa...@hovnanian.com> schreef op Zo 16 Aug 2015 om 09:48:
>> Our universe is a computer simulation, run by a life-form that exists in a
>> higher dimensional space.
>>
>> When she wipes the disk to install Windows 10, we're all gone.
>
>
>They use Windows 908743932.
Les Cargill
Aug 18, 2015, 6:30:55 AM8/18/15
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Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
> Our universe is a computer simulation, run by a life-form that exists in a
> higher dimensional space.
>
> When she wipes the disk to install Windows 10, we're all gone.
>
http://rickandmorty.wikia.com/wiki/M._Night_Shaym-Aliens!
> Our universe is a computer simulation, run by a life-form that exists in a
> higher dimensional space.
>
> When she wipes the disk to install Windows 10, we're all gone.
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7eVdv6AYKY
--
Les Cargill
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