Annoying things that sighted people do...
Brian Gaff
I wonder what a sighted computer user would say if someone kept waving their
hands in front of the screen while they were trying to use it? Even wearing
phones seems not to stop them, I mean they seem to talk all the louder..
What I am referring to is the fact that if we are using a computer with
speech, the last thing we can do is concentrate on someone else talking to
you at the same time.
I've tried the subtle approach, like ignoring them, the direct approach,
explaining why I cannot have a conversation while I'm working, and being
rude, but to no avail..
Its not just one person, it seems everyone does this. maybe I need a pair of
noise cancelling phones...
grin.
Brian
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
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>What I am referring to is the fact that if we are using a computer with
>speech, the last thing we can do is concentrate on someone else talking to
>you at the same time.
. I'm sighted, but do pause when my friend is using her speech, but then
I've known her for many years. ..
>
>I've tried the subtle approach, like ignoring them, the direct approach,
>explaining why I cannot have a conversation while I'm working, and being
>rude, but to no avail..
>
>Its not just one person, it seems everyone does this. maybe I need a pair of
>noise cancelling phones...
>grin.
. No, they'd just shout louder and louder ... because of the assumption
that if you have one sense impaired, you might have another one too. .
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. If you have a programming friend, then something cheaper than the
headphones would be for him to program for you a special key combination
which - assuming you have a screen at all - causes
SHUT UP
I'm trying to work
to flash on the screen in big letters when you press it.
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Brian Gaff wrote:
> You know, I'm beginning to think that people are losing their minds..
Beginning??
> I wonder what a sighted computer user would say if someone kept waving their
> hands in front of the screen while they were trying to use it? Even wearing
> phones seems not to stop them, I mean they seem to talk all the louder..
> What I am referring to is the fact that if we are using a computer with
> speech, the last thing we can do is concentrate on someone else talking to
> you at the same time.
>
> I've tried the subtle approach, like ignoring them, the direct approach,
> explaining why I cannot have a conversation while I'm working, and being
> rude, but to no avail..
>
I think there is a general manners crash going on in much of the world/
probbably a symtom of to much screen-time and too many electronic one
way or one and a half way connections. This creates a loss of
attention span and empathy. There is the more and more multi-cultural
component also. What is respedct to one group of people may bother or
even insult others.
> Its not just one person, it seems everyone does this. maybe I need a pair of
> noise cancelling phones...
> grin.
>
>
That might help a little. Brian
>
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Where I live people play very loud recorded music at busy/dangerous
street crossings. This can force one to wait for help which can
enforce the stereotype that the blind need help to cross any
street....but of late at least one place where I have this problem it
seems as if they now turn the music down until I get across; or maybe
it is just a bit of luck???Why do people grab one's arm at a corner to
help them cross a street/no trafic at all, after seeing them negociate
a whole block of obstacles. Five meters of open space with nothing to
bang one's head on is a relief sometimes!
Burt Henry ==Standing on the moon where talk is cheap and vision's
true...
Brian Gaff
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and act like statues when you are going down the street. I mean, that is the
worst thing they can do, cos we then cannot tell where they are"
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something), to control
the self-defense instinct!...grin?/I have been called worse than rude
for agressively explaining
why it is not a good idea to forceably grab a blind guy by the arm
without anouncing yourself
first:/thought I was doing the polite thing by not leaving them in a
bleeding pile on the sidewalk.
I do feel bad when someone is really trying to help and they get a
tongue lashing or an elbow in
the ribs, but one really does need to be careful, and I don't always
have time and patients...
Edu. is the answer, but it is a long and slow process.
Burt
Brian Gaff wrote:
> A roll of duct tape and lessons in self defence perhaps?
> Brian
>
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Arnaud
computer speech than a real human talk to you???
really?
Will this be Eloquence that will help you anywhere in the street when
you have problem?
Again I feel sad to you. you should perhaps change your mind.
Brian Gaff
use the spoken word from the computer to tell what is going on, that
talking over it while its doing its jobi makes it impossible to tell what is
going on. My point was that most people wold pretty soon get annoyed if
others kept getting between them and their screen while they were trying to
use it, which is exactly what talking while we are working is doing.
Brian
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burt henry
multi task/read and halfway listen at the same time. Or, as many ppl do
you can fake it.
It is much harder/slower to enter info from purely audio channels/the
band just is not as wide-no colors, for example.
If you can understand this, then you can get the the interruption is of
much greater import when I blind person can't hear their screenreader
than when a sighted person has to take his off the screen for a minute,
(or not) to answer (or not) some one talking to them. You can instantly
find your place visually again with your eyes, but depending on what you
are doing, and how you were doing it it can be MUC Harder To find your
place with synth speech/screenreader.
their IS A TIME TO WORK, AND A TIME TO SOCIALIZE, AND AT TIMES THE TWO
DON'T MIX, BUT TO BE EXPLAINING THIS ON A BLIND GROUP? mAYBE YOU DON'T
WORK, OR i DON'T KNOW. sOME ONE THAT CAN'T TAKE THEIR EARS AND OR EYES
OFF OF THE COMPUJUTER OR tv OR i-POD OR WHAT EVER TO TALK IS SOMETHING
ELSE, BUT WORK IS WORK, AND SHOULD BE WELL DONE. i DOUBT THAT bRIAN WAS
TALKING ABOUT A FRIEND COMING TO HIM WITH A SERIOUS PROBLEM. mANY PPL
THINK THAT WHAT EVER A BLINK IS DOING IS NOT VERY IMPORTANT, AND THAT
THE BLIND PERSON
'S TIME IS OF LESS VALUE THAN THEIRs.
Burt Henry
Looks like I was writing with capslock on/oh well.
burt henry
live?? Maybe the ppl are friendly and more caring/considerate there.
Burt
On 11/14/2009 12:21 caf�, Arnaud wrote:
chris mcmillan
<Bri...@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
>No, I think you miss the point.
Perhaps a notice similar to that used to stop people petting guide dogs
would work? Or not (knowing how daft people are about distracting dogs)
Sincerely Chris
>It ought to be obvious to anyonw that if we
>use the spoken word from the computer to tell what is going on, that
>talking over it while its doing its jobi makes it impossible to tell what is
>going on. My point was that most people wold pretty soon get annoyed if
>others kept getting between them and their screen while they were trying to
>use it, which is exactly what talking while we are working is doing.
>
>Brian
>
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Brian Gaff
quite the Opposite!
Although this is getting off topic for computers, I would also criticise the
media while I'm on a roll.
They are always coming up with stories as curing blindness is almost here,
which its not, and always promoting some blind person who has done something
'brave' Or as I often think, foolhardy.
I also think that the current strip the disabled of all their money as
their vote is small is a cynical device to make people think we are all
spongers when these are in the minority and it affects the rest of uses
independence and stress levels to jump through hoops to get on a level
playing field with the rest of society.
Brian
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