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Mr. Man-wai Chang

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May 25, 2013, 8:28:56 AM5/25/13
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Error message "Network connection was reset" whenever I tried to run
iTunes app update. Disabling Antivir Premium 2013 fixed the problem
immediately!

Solution?

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David H. Lipman

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May 25, 2013, 9:21:44 AM5/25/13
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From: "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet...@gmail.com>

>
> Error message "Network connection was reset" whenever I tried to run
> iTunes app update. Disabling Antivir Premium 2013 fixed the problem
> immediately!
>
> Solution?
>

Either Whitelist it or disable AntiVir and perrform the update trhen
re-enable AntiVir.



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mark lewis

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May 25, 2013, 6:53:29 AM5/25/13
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On Sat, 25 May 2013, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote to All:

MMC> From: "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet...@gmail.com>

MMC> Error message "Network connection was reset" whenever I tried to
MMC> run iTunes app update. Disabling Antivir Premium 2013 fixed the
MMC> problem immediately!

MMC> Solution?

adjust your antivir premium to allow itunes... this is normal tuning for many
protection packages...

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Mr. Man-wai Chang

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May 25, 2013, 3:05:54 PM5/25/13
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On 25/05/2013 10:53 AM, mark lewis wrote:> + User FidoNet address:
1:3634/12.71
>
> adjust your antivir premium to allow itunes... this is normal
> tuning for many protection packages...

On 25/05/2013 9:21 PM, David H. Lipman wrote:
>
> Either Whitelist it or disable AntiVir and perrform the update trhen
> re-enable AntiVir.

OK... Does this happen to other anti-virus scanners?

Also, I barely remembered that Antivir's free version didn't block
iTunes... I am not too sure...

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David H. Lipman

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May 25, 2013, 7:04:58 PM5/25/13
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From: "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet...@gmail.com>

> On 25/05/2013 10:53 AM, mark lewis wrote:> + User FidoNet address:
> 1:3634/12.71
>>
>> adjust your antivir premium to allow itunes... this is normal
>> tuning for many protection packages...
>
> On 25/05/2013 9:21 PM, David H. Lipman wrote:
>>
>> Either Whitelist it or disable AntiVir and perrform the update trhen
>> re-enable AntiVir.
>
> OK... Does this happen to other anti-virus scanners?
>
> Also, I barely remembered that Antivir's free version didn't block
> iTunes... I am not too sure...
>

Yes, it does. Since I do nolt know what exactly is being blocked, I can't
be more specific.

It is iTunes or is it Apple Softwaree Update ?
Is it the application or the Internet copnnection.

My initial thoughts arfe it is Apple Softwaree Update and how it connects to
get updates.

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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May 26, 2013, 8:27:12 AM5/26/13
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> It is iTunes or is it Apple Softwaree Update ?
> Is it the application or the Internet copnnection.
>
> My initial thoughts arfe it is Apple Softwaree Update and how it
> connects to get updates.

Whitelisting itunes.exe and ituneshelper.exe doesn't seem to help.

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Mr. Man-wai Chang

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May 26, 2013, 8:31:01 AM5/26/13
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On 26/05/2013 7:04 AM, David H. Lipman wrote:
> Yes, it does. Since I do nolt know what exactly is being blocked, I
> can't be more specific.

What puzzled me most was that there was NOT a single entry in Antivir's
logs, and there was no pop-up saying Antivir had blocked a program.

I think we could call this a serious bug, that Antivir did something
without leaving evidences. :)

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Mr. Man-wai Chang

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May 26, 2013, 9:24:33 AM5/26/13
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On 26/05/2013 8:31 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 26/05/2013 7:04 AM, David H. Lipman wrote:
> What puzzled me most was that there was NOT a single entry in Antivir's
> logs, and there was no pop-up saying Antivir had blocked a program.
>
> I think we could call this a serious bug, that Antivir did something
> without leaving evidences. :)
>

I supposed only root-kits, viruses and malware are doing that... :)

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FromTheRafters

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May 26, 2013, 10:00:49 AM5/26/13
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Mr. Man-wai Chang pretended :
> On 26/05/2013 8:31 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>> On 26/05/2013 7:04 AM, David H. Lipman wrote:
>> What puzzled me most was that there was NOT a single entry in Antivir's
>> logs, and there was no pop-up saying Antivir had blocked a program.
>>
>> I think we could call this a serious bug, that Antivir did something
>> without leaving evidences. :)
>>
>
> I supposed only root-kits, viruses and malware are doing that... :)

Rootkit is not strictly a malware term. You may find that rootkit
technology becomes an antimalware tool too.

I'm not saying that this is the case here though.


Mr. Man-wai Chang

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May 26, 2013, 12:13:43 PM5/26/13
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On 26/05/2013 10:00 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
> Rootkit is not strictly a malware term. You may find that rootkit
> technology becomes an antimalware tool too.
> I'm not saying that this is the case here though.

It's all about the reasons!

Anyway, Antivir should have raised an alert that it blocked iTunes from
doing something....

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Mr. Man-wai Chang

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May 27, 2013, 6:44:08 AM5/27/13
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On 27/05/2013 9:24 AM, Dustin wrote:
> Does Antivir premium have a firewall package?

It got Mail Protection and Web Protection to monitor some ports, not a
full-blown firewall!

> You may want to check.... and see if itunes has been denied network access.

Yesterday night, I disabled Web Protection and iTunes could update
without problem. Unless I remembered incorrectly, that trick didn't work
2 days ago.....


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FromTheRafters

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May 27, 2013, 7:08:01 AM5/27/13
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Dustin brought next idea :
> FromTheRafters <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in news:knt4an$nre$1@dont-
> email.me:
> It's not even actually related to a windows system. The term rootkit is
> seriously flawed when discussing a windows based operating system.
>
> It's stealth. But alas, that's not new. :)

Yeah, but like it or not it appears we are stuck with the lousy
terminology.


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Mr. Man-wai Chang

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May 28, 2013, 5:07:58 AM5/28/13
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On 28/05/2013 3:27 AM, Dustin wrote:
> What's a tell about your problem is the error you reported. You didn't
> say itunes wouldn't run, only that everytime you fired it up, it was
> told to get borked for an internet connection. If the app is allowed to
> run, the next thing to check is a firewall or "web" protection agent. :)
>
> See if it's accidently blacklisted itunes.
>
> By blacklisted, I mean accidently has a website or something that itunes is
> trying to load. That's why your getting the connection reset error.

iTunes did run, but when I hit "Update" in the library/apps screen, it
reported error "Network connection was reset" after downloading the
latest apps. Antivir did NOT log any error nor show an alert.

Disabling Web Protection now helped. But I wonder whether there was a
better way.

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Jax

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Jun 1, 2013, 10:27:25 AM6/1/13
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Dustin <abugh...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsA1CDA07424677C9...@unknown.org:

> Dustin <abugh...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:XnsA1CDA053C6769C9...@unknown.org:
>
>> "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:knvd5p$q2b$1...@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 27/05/2013 9:24 AM, Dustin wrote:
>>>> Does Antivir premium have a firewall package?
>>>
>>> It got Mail Protection and Web Protection to monitor some ports, not a
>>> full-blown firewall!
>>>
>>>> You may want to check.... and see if itunes has been denied network
>>>> access.
>>>
>>> Yesterday night, I disabled Web Protection and iTunes could update
>>> without problem. Unless I remembered incorrectly, that trick didn't
>>> work 2 days ago.....
>>>
>>>
>>
>> What's a tell about your problem is the error you reported. You didn't
>> say itunes wouldn't run, only that everytime you fired it up, it was
>> told to get borked for an internet connection. If the app is allowed to
>> run, the next thing to check is a firewall or "web" protection agent.
>> :)
>>
>> See if it's accidently blacklisted itunes.
>>
>>
>
> By blacklisted, I mean accidently has a website or something that itunes
> is trying to load. That's why your getting the connection reset error.

Thank you for that! :)

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