Do viruses live inside 7-Zip files and can they be detected?

[RayLopez99]

Since .7z files are not scanned by most places can viruses live inside them? (i.e., Google does not scan .7z, so when I send my code to Gmail for storage, I wrap it in .7z, otherwise, if I just .Zip it, Gmail will kick it back with a message along the lines that it is illegal to store .dlls in an email or along those lines. Sorry Dustbin if you don't know what I'm talking about--you're not a programmer after all--but I trust the rest of you do).

I'm not talking about encrypted compressed files either.

RL

[FromTheRafters]

Viruses *live* in executables, not data files. Yes, executables can be
stored in archive files and many if not all scanners can (and do) scan
within archive files.

[Hot-Text]

"FromTheRafters" <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message news:k5959c$i90$1...@dont-email.me...

Like Viruses.bin
For not all scanners
can (and do)
scan within this archive files:
*.BIN



http://mynews.ath.cx/thread.php?group=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

[FromTheRafters]

Hot-Text pretended :

BIN is a filename extension not indicative of any particular filetype.
Usually, it only means it is a binary file (not 7 bit ASCII) but anyone
can name anything with such an extension.

[...]

[Buffalo]

Ray, you should become a politicain. You really don't know what you are
talking about most of the time, and yet you convince yourself that you do.
That would make you a good candidate.
You'd fit right in. :)
Buffalo

[Hot-Text]

"FromTheRafters" <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message news:k59e8v$bq8$1...@dont-email.me...

Can not a binary file have a 7 bit ASCII with in it?
File Type Binary Disc Image open by: Roxio Creator NXT Pro


binary://read Format as DOS,
open use CMD.exe and Hide,
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
Get File ini from binary,
make 7bit ASII..

Start Creator list.......
include:"%Systems%/CMD.exe";
include:"%Systems%/USER.dll";
include:"/Viruses.BIN";
include:"C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\NeroCmd.exe";

//NeroCmd - NeroAPI Command Processor
//Duck-Door

is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.


//LOOL See a door

Read *.BIN Format Text/Text ASII Unicode UTF-7
make Folder name:Viruses
path ROOT:/
C:\ MD Viruses
LOOL

[FromTheRafters]

Hot-Text expressed precisely :

>
> "FromTheRafters" <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
> news:k59e8v$bq8$1...@dont-email.me...
>> Hot-Text pretended :
>>>
>>> "FromTheRafters" <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
>>> news:k5959c$i90$1...@dont-email.me...
>>>> RayLopez99 wrote on 10/12/2012 :
>>>>> Since .7z files are not scanned by most places can viruses live inside
>>>>> them? (i.e., Google does not scan .7z, so when I send my code to Gmail
>>>>> for storage, I wrap it in .7z, otherwise, if I just .Zip it, Gmail will
>>>>> kick it back with a message along the lines that it is illegal to store
>>>>> .dlls in an email or along those lines. Sorry Dustbin if you don't know
>>>>> what I'm talking about--you're not a programmer after all--but I trust
>>>>> the rest of you do).
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not talking about encrypted compressed files either.
>>>>>
>>>> Viruses *live* in executables, not data files. Yes, executables can be
>>>> stored in archive files and many if not all scanners can (and do) scan
>>>> within archive files.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Like Viruses.bin For not all scanners can (and do) scan within this
>>> archive files:
>>> *.BIN
>>
>> BIN is a filename extension not indicative of any particular filetype.
>> Usually, it only means it is a binary file (not 7 bit ASCII) but anyone can
>> name anything with such an extension.
>>
>
> Can not a binary file have a 7 bit ASCII with in it?

Of course, but a seven bit system may require that you encode your
binary into a seven bit representation so that it will pass through
uncorrupted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_file

[...]

[Dustin]

RayLopez99 <raylo...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:eb95c601-a962-44d6...@googlegroups.com:

> Since .7z files are not scanned by most places can viruses live
> inside them? (i.e., Google does not scan .7z, so when I send my code
> to Gmail for storage, I wrap it in .7z, otherwise, if I just .Zip it,
> Gmail will kick it back with a message along the lines that it is
> illegal to store .dlls in an email or along those lines.

Yes.

> Dustin if you don't know what I'm talking about--you're not a

> programmer after all--but I trust the rest of you do).

I wrote viruses. It's you who still hasn't grasped how they work. Nice
question above. :)



--
There ain't no rest for the wicked. Money don't grow on trees. I got bills
to pay. I got mouths to feed. Ain't nothing in this world for free. Oh No.
I can't slow down, I can't hold back though you know I wish I could. Oh no
there ain't no rest for the wicked, until we close our eyes for good.

[Hot-Text]

"FromTheRafters" <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message news:k5a1qm$dur$1...@dont-email.me...

Good hex dump on me,
So a 16bit DOS and 32bit CMD,
can be pass through a seven bit representation,
so that Binary_file will pass uncorrupted..

[Hot-Text]

"Dustin" <bughunte...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:XnsA0EAB6FBDF4E2HHI2948AJD832@no...

> RayLopez99 <raylo...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:eb95c601-a962-44d6...@googlegroups.com:
>
>> Since .7z files are not scanned by most places can viruses live
>> inside them? (i.e., Google does not scan .7z, so when I send my code
>> to Gmail for storage, I wrap it in .7z, otherwise, if I just .Zip it,
>> Gmail will kick it back with a message along the lines that it is
>> illegal to store .dlls in an email or along those lines.
>
> Yes.
>
>> Dustin if you don't know what I'm talking about--you're not a
>> programmer after all--but I trust the rest of you do).
>
> I wrote viruses. It's you who still hasn't grasped how they work. Nice
> question above. :)
>
>

Did you know that a .dll file,
is a Program File,
that can be run in WLM <<LOOL

[Dustin]

"Hot-Text" <hot-...@news.mixmin.net> wrote in
news:k5af86$sb$1...@news.mixmin.net:

It's a library normally.

> that can be run in WLM <<LOOL

Depending on the dll.. perhaps. Some .dlls aren't really .dlls.
Extensions aren't all that helpful.

[FromTheRafters]

Dustin was thinking very hard :

> "Hot-Text" <hot-...@news.mixmin.net> wrote in
> news:k5af86$sb$1...@news.mixmin.net:
>
>> "Dustin" <bughunte...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:XnsA0EAB6FBDF4E2HHI2948AJD832@no...
>>> RayLopez99 <raylo...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:eb95c601-a962-44d6...@googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>> Since .7z files are not scanned by most places can viruses live
>>>> inside them? (i.e., Google does not scan .7z, so when I send my
>>>> code to Gmail for storage, I wrap it in .7z, otherwise, if I just
>>>> .Zip it, Gmail will kick it back with a message along the lines
>>>> that it is illegal to store .dlls in an email or along those lines.
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>> Dustin if you don't know what I'm talking about--you're not a
>>>> programmer after all--but I trust the rest of you do).
>>>
>>> I wrote viruses. It's you who still hasn't grasped how they work.
>>> Nice question above. :)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Did you know that a .dll file,
>> is a Program File,
>
> It's a library normally.
>
>> that can be run in WLM <<LOOL
>
> Depending on the dll.. perhaps. Some .dlls aren't really .dlls.
> Extensions aren't all that helpful.

Indeed, in fact they can be very misleading.

[Bear]

Dustin <bughunte...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsA0EAB6FBDF4E2HHI2948AJD832@no:

> RayLopez99 <raylo...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:eb95c601-a962-44d6...@googlegroups.com:
>
>> Since .7z files are not scanned by most places can viruses live
>> inside them? (i.e., Google does not scan .7z, so when I send my code
>> to Gmail for storage, I wrap it in .7z, otherwise, if I just .Zip it,
>> Gmail will kick it back with a message along the lines that it is
>> illegal to store .dlls in an email or along those lines.
>
> Yes.
>
>> Dustin if you don't know what I'm talking about--you're not a
>> programmer after all--but I trust the rest of you do).
>
> I wrote viruses. It's you who still hasn't grasped how they work. Nice
> question above. :)

Do you agree with this Dustin?.........

"Virus writers aren't necessarily exceptionally intelligent. This is not a
collective slam on their brainpower, but more to suggest that it doesn't take
elite technical skills to write damaging viruses — which is scary. "Virus
writing is not rocket science, and it doesn't take any special elite skill to
be able to write a self-replicating program," she says. Essentially, virus
writers produce self-replicating code that includes a damaging payload."

http://www.microsoft.com/canada/smallbiz/themes/anti-virus-workshop/7-things-
know-about-virus-writers.mspx

Jax
--
Bear Bottoms
http://bearware.info

[Dustin]

Bear <removebea...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsA0EBC7CC324C0be...@130.225.254.104:

Not really sure what it has to do with the conversation between Ray and
myself.

Or, in other words, I speak about viruses/malware from experience gained
on both sides of the fence. He doesn't. It doesn't take much technical
skill on it's own to write a very simple virus that doesn't do anything
and makes absolutely no effort to hide itself. The payload section can
be simple or very complicated, just like any other program.

It's overly generalizing to categorize all viruses in the same manner as
this author has. An overwriter takes little skill. A prepender takes.. a
little more skill. When your virus starts actually protecting itself and
doing other tricks tho, it's not "simple" anymore.

Either way, Ray can't wrap his mind around how Irok works and is able to
cross infect PE NE and standard MZ based executables. [g]

So what exactly does that say for Ray's intelligence Bear? HAHAHA.

[RayLopez99]

On Friday, October 12, 2012 11:21:08 PM UTC+3, Buffalo wrote:

> That would make you a good candidate.
>
> You'd fit right in. :)
>
> Buffalo

Thanks Chip. It takes one to know one. You can catch my programming questions at Usenet, unlike Dustin's fakery. Google: "ray lopez master programmer" Search
About 161,000,000 results (0.42 seconds)

RL

[Bear]

Dustin <bughunte...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsA0EBA18BA22A7HHI2948AJD832@no:

Dustin you brag too much. Ray has probably done clever things that he's
rightly pleased about but wants to keep a low profile.

Think about it! :)

[RayLopez99]

On Sunday, October 14, 2012 7:51:59 PM UTC+3, Bear wrote:

> Dustin you brag too much. Ray has probably done clever things that he's
>
> rightly pleased about but wants to keep a low profile.
>
>
>
> Think about it! :)
>

You're right Bear. That's why I try and keep my real self out of Usenet as much as possible. By contrast, Dustin uses his real name and even has lawsuits pending from his online activities. The mark of a pretender and drama queen. He gets off from anonymous strangers praising or cursing him.

RL

[FromTheRafters]

Bear laid this down on his screen :

You mean like using cracked OS software? Not really a low profile
there.
>
> Think about it! :)
>
Maybe he's not bragging, but he *has* mentioned it a few too many
times. He's really rich and powerful but he uses cheap cracked software
just because he can get away with it.

[Dustin]

Bear <removebea...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsA0ECB5C001247be...@130.225.254.104:

It's not bragging when you can back it up JaX.

> Think about it! :)

Yes, you should. You use the word brag a little too much. It waters it
down in the process.

[Dustin]

RayLopez99 <raylo...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:5c9e929a-d7a9-44ce...@googlegroups.com:

Which lawsuits pending from my online activities? Can you cite anything
to back it up, or is this just more shit? Shall I call it shit like your
claim of being a coder? :)

[Bear]

Dustin <bughunte...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsA0ECC78699484HHI2948AJD832@no:

Been reading today that a mentally retarted Brit called Gary McKinnon can
hack way better than you into systems run by the military and NASA.

You're old school.... he's one of the new generation of truly leet
hackers! :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_McKinnon

[Dustin]

Bear <removebea...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsA0EED40EFFDC3be...@130.225.254.104:

I have a bit of background information on how that hack was done. :)

He took full advantage of some semi published vulnerabilities in a
series of web servers and windows workstations. I wouldn't say he can do
it better, as he managed to get caught doing it. Seems he didn't delete
ALL of the log files while he was roaming around.

You make it sound like our military/nasa have super computers so
different than what you or I use day to day. In some areas, they do; but
newsflash! everything's all fucking PC clones now a days. I kid you not.

Running combinations of windows XP to various flavors of linux.

Hacking is hacking, doesn't much matter how you do it. Dumpster diving,
fishing for passwords, or good old fashioned social engineering.

I sense a little jealousy with you JaX regarding my superior skill
compared to yours; that's two people you've tried to google that should!
(but aren't) better than me at this... LOL.

Asbergers is also something i'm familiar with... It's not a complete
disability; He's not slow or mentally disabled in the ways you might
think.

> You're old school.... he's one of the new generation of truly leet
> hackers! :)

if I told you his hacks involved using software he didn't author to
expliot known vulnerabilities that our government didn't patch...
(that's how this went down), do you still think he's a truly l33t
hacker? [g]

Background information makes the difference, eh, simpleton? [g]

I don't by any means claim to be the greatest hacker, but I'm not a
chump. You'll be able to find better/same skill as me, but you won't
ever be able to say I'm some half ass wannabe script kiddy like Assange
or this fucknut you picked this time.

[Shadow]

ray AND/OR lopez AND/OR master AND/OR programmer = 161,000,000

Wow !!!! Its wonderful what OR does
Try

ray AND lopez AND master AND programmer
+ray +lopez +master +programmer

I got one result. Your post.
;)
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

[FromTheRafters]

Shadow explained on 10/16/2012 :

ROTFLMFAO

[Bear]

Dustin <bughunte...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsA0EEC77875540HHI2948AJD832@no:

Dustin when did you write an encryption system as good as Julian's?

[Gordon Darling]

On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 21:48:55 +0100, BearBie Doll wrote:

> Dustin when did you write an encryption system as good as Julian's?

When did your write anything?

[RayLopez99]

When did Dustin write anything not copy and paste? He's a blowhard.

RL

[Buffalo]

You show your ignorace more and more with every post.
Buffalo

[RayLopez99]

On Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:12:16 PM UTC+3, Buffalo wrote:
> You show your ignorace more and more with every post.
>
> Buffalo

Quit sucking his ass. It will get you nowhere, not even in prison. He's a loser and in prison would be somebody's bitch.

Look at my challenge to our trashcan fiend in the other thread...watch him chicken out. I can see several ways he'll try and game the system to avoid the challenge but will wait before I reveal them.

RL

[Bear]

ASCII <m...@privacy.net> wrote in news:508240df.3287752@EDCBIC:

> Bear wrote:
>>Dustin <bughunte...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>news:XnsA0EEC77875540HHI2948AJD832@no:
>

>>Dustin when did you write an encryption system as good as Julian's?
>>
>>Jax
>

> I think it was back in the decade before last (90s) that he came up with
> some RC4 variant to encrypt the [.dat] version of IROK he sent me around
> Y2K. I don't have it anymore nor remember the pwd. Was it RC4 or just a
> simple XOR? Of course it probably wasn't anywhere near as strong as
> Julian's 256bit one, Maybe the Rijndael AES cipher.
> http://alturl.com/6qw6e go to bottom and click for pages 2, and 3.

ASCII I've never seen anything like that written about Dustin!

Of course Julian Assange is a class tech and that is based on what he was
doing as a tech way before WikiLeaks published the diplomatic cables.

[Buffalo]

I repeat "You show your ignorace more and more with every post."
You sound like a high school kid trying to get info without working for it.
Buffalo :)