Ross Webster vs. Lex Luthor
Keith W. Howley
Hi. What is the deal with that cheap Lex replacement for Part 3? I thought
he sucked big time! He was so corny and I didn't unbderstand all of that
stuff with the coffee crop destruction and his involvement with that
supercomputer thing at the end? They should have just kept the "Big Man"
Lex Luthor in all 4. You think? I have another question, what the hell
ever happened to Miss Tessmacher in Part 2? She was in like 15 minutes of
the movie and she hasn't been seen ever since? Did they just decide to
write her out of the script or did Lex kill her because she betrayed him
Part 1 with the Hackensack missle? PLease answer if you can, thanks.
Keith
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Keith W. Howley
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BHARRIS500
Superman III was written for Richard Pryor. He was a big fan of the
pevious Superman movies and approached the Salkinds because he wanted to
be a part of the next Superman film.
Before Pryor was involved the premise of III would have been to inroduce
Supergirl and the return of the Phantom Zone villans according to David
Newman who co-wrote the frist three movies.
Later,
Bill
Brad Ferguson
In article <19970406014...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
sdel...@aol.com wrote:
> In article
<Pine.GSO.3.95.970330...@planetx.bloomu.edu>, "Keith W.
Howley" <kwho...@planetx.bloomu.edu> writes:
>
> >Hi. What is the deal with that cheap Lex replacement for Part 3?
>
> "Cheap" may be the operative word. This film also lacked Margot Kidder
for definite money reasons, so it wouldn't surprise me if Gene Hackman's
skills were too expensive after paying Reeve, Pryor
> and Richard Lester.
Kidder was excluded from SUPERMAN III for disciplinary reasons. She'd said
some ungenerous (and probably accurate) things about the Salkinds in an
interview. She'd also posed nude in Gallery (I think) with
Superman-related merchandise -- there was a towel with an S on it, for
example -- and that made DC mad.
The Lana Lang stuff in III is quite good, I think, and well worth the
absence of Kidder.
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In article <Pine.GSO.3.95.970330...@planetx.bloomu.edu>, "Keith W. Howley" <kwho...@planetx.bloomu.edu> writes:
>Hi. What is the deal with that cheap Lex replacement for Part 3?
"Cheap" may be the operative word. This film also lacked Margot Kidder for definite money reasons, so it wouldn't surprise me if Gene Hackman's skills were too expensive after paying Reeve, Pryor
and Richard Lester. And I'm convinced that Richard Pryor would have been in this film no matter who else was the chief villain.
Almost everything about S-III was ill-conceived. The whole effort is a transparent effort to make money. Even though S-IV was equally bad, at least Cannon Films knew what had worked in the first
two films. To a degree, anyway. And then Cannon paid to make sure Hackman and Kidder were back to save the film. Too bad they failed.
Simon DelMonte
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I would have invented one years ago." - Lex Luthor
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>
>Before Pryor was involved the premise of III would have been to inroduce
>Supergirl and the return of the Phantom Zone villans according to David
>Newman who co-wrote the frist three movies.
>
>
Ouch! What a freaking burn! That sounds like a pretty decent setup, nowhere near as cheesy as the video game crap garbage %$^&*!!&$_&&*! they went with. .... I'm pretty disappointed with III, except
for the cool Lana/Clark interactions. Probably would have helped the success of the Supergirl movie, too, to have her spin off of a guest-apearance from the succesful chain of films.
-Jon.
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BHARRIS500
Yes, you're probably right. i'm sure it would have helped the Supergirl
movie.
I have a copy of the original Supergirl script, which is vastly different
from the one they filmed. In the original, it was a Supergirl/Superman
team-up, but when Reeve refused to appear (because of a disagreement with
the Salkinds), it had to be extensively rewritten. They, also, used parts
of that script in Superman IV.
Later,
Bill
Dsikula
Popularity didn't stop Wolfman from bumping off Barry ("The Trial of the
Flash" **shudder** notwithstanding).
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In article <19970410014...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, sdel...@aol.com writes:
>It may have also saved the pre-Crisis Sueprgirl. Had she finally become a
>success, no way would Wolfman have been told to kill her at that time.
I used to love Sueprgirl. Especially the Drngia Nwe Adevtnuers of Sueprgirl. Anyway...
I believe that the decision to kill off Supergirl had less to do with popularity, and a lot more to do with "cleaning" up the Superman mythos - and removing incidental Kryptonians from the story;
thus no Kandorians, no Phantom Zone, no Survival Zone, no Argo, No Kara Zor-El, no Mala, no U-Ban, no Dev-Em, no Superpets, etcetera...
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>Yes, you're probably right. i'm sure it would have helped the Supergirl
>movie.
It may have also saved the pre-Crisis Sueprgirl. Had she finally become a success, no way would Wolfman have been told to kill her at that time.
Personally, I've always blamed the failure of the Supergirl film for her demise. It was "proof" she'd never amount to anything.
Simon DelMonte
"Gloating is overrated. I prefer living well." - James Wyler, "Murder One"