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Oliver Kiemschies

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Aug 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/13/98
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Anybody out there know the name of Metropolis' football team?

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Jeffery D. Sykes

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Aug 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/13/98
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Oliver Kiemschies <oll...@sprintmail.com> wrote:

>Anybody out there know the name of Metropolis' football team?

Is it the Knights? Or is that Gotham?

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LArry Stanley

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Aug 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/13/98
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"Metropolis Meteors" . Gotham is the "Wildcats". Both are in the
National League in the Eastern Division.

If you want Baseball or something else, let me know. I will do what I
can.

Hope that helps.

Larry

CROOOOW-magnon

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Aug 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/13/98
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Jeffery D. Sykes wrote:
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> Oliver Kiemschies <oll...@sprintmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Anybody out there know the name of Metropolis' football team?
>
> Is it the Knights? Or is that Gotham?
>

Yeah, that's Gotham. Or at least Gotham State University football team
(according to the Scarecrow episode where Scarecrow rigs a buncha
sporting events by exposing athletes to his fear toxin).


> Jeff

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Clark Kent

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Aug 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/14/98
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Greetings, ladies and gentlemen:
I got the Atlas to the DC Universe (Mayfair games suplement to DC Heroes)
with information about the baseball, basketball, football, media and others
in the DC Universe. For any of those, at your feet (but I'll leave on
vacances 15th to 31st.
At your feet,
KalEl el Vigilant

Mark Millar

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Aug 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/14/98
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Clark Kent wrote:
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> Greetings, ladies and gentlemen:
> I got the Atlas to the DC Universe (Mayfair games suplement to DC Heroes)
> with information about the baseball, basketball, football, media and others
> in the DC Universe. For any of those, at your feet (but I'll leave on
> vacances 15th to 31st.

Shame on you guys. It's the Metropolis Meteors... as seen in the new
Superman Adventures issue 24.

MM

The Allemans

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Aug 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/14/98
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The "Mets" (yuk yuk). In case a certain "ultimate fanboy" couldn't tell,
that was a joke.
Oliver Kiemschies wrote in message <35D34E0D...@sprintmail.com>...

>Anybody out there know the name of Metropolis' football team?
>

Dwight Williams

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Aug 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/14/98
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Jeffery D. Sykes (sy...@ms.uky.edu) writes:

> Oliver Kiemschies <oll...@sprintmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Anybody out there know the name of Metropolis' football team?
>
> Is it the Knights? Or is that Gotham?

Yep, Knights is the Gotham baseball or basketball(or is it football) team.

Monarchs is Metropolis' baseball franchise, IIRC...
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LArry Stanley

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Aug 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/14/98
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Personally, I think the Atlas to the DC Universe is a great little
reference book, even if you don't play the game.

I use it for all sorts of information gathering.

It is in my list of top five birthday presents I have ever gotten.

LArry Stanley

Clark Kent wrote:
>
> Greetings, ladies and gentlemen:
> I got the Atlas to the DC Universe (Mayfair games suplement to DC Heroes)
> with information about the baseball, basketball, football, media and others
> in the DC Universe. For any of those, at your feet (but I'll leave on
> vacances 15th to 31st.

cmq

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Aug 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/14/98
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LArry Stanley <ultimat...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Personally, I think the Atlas to the DC Universe is a great little
>reference book, even if you don't play the game.
>
>I use it for all sorts of information gathering.

I'll second that! Even if much of the information will never be 'official
continuitiy' despite being licensed by DC and despite a few retcons here and
there, it's still a great reference to the ficitional DCU. ( e.g. the exact
location of Metropolis, which the comics will never admit to, has been
placed by the atlas in New Jersey, right? Or was Gotham in Jersey? and
Metropolis down the coast...?

Clark Kent

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Aug 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/14/98
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Ok, Ok... let's see... Hmm... Fast food chains... Media and
Entertainment... Here! Professional Sports!
Baseball's National League: (now on, I only name the non-real teams)
EASTERN DIVISION: Gotham Griffins, Metropolis Meteors, Midway City
Chiefs
WESTERN DIVISION: Star City Rockets
Baseball's American League:
EASTERN DIVISION: Metropolis Monarchs, Gotham Knights
WESTERN DIVISION: Coast City Angels (before the BIG BOOM, of course)
Football's National Conference:
EASTERN DIVISION: Metropolis Meteors, Gotham Wildcats
CENTRAL DIVISION: Midway Cardinals
WESTERN DIVISION: Star City Stags
Football's American Conference:
EASTERN DIVISION: None
CENTRAL DIVISION: Central City Cougars
WESTERN DIVISION: Coast City Sharks (before the BB, again)
Basketball's Eastern Conference:
ATLANTIC DIVISION: Metropolis Generals, Gotham Guardsmen
CENTRAL DIVISION: Midway Sprints
Basketball's Western Conference:
MIDWEST DIVISION: Keystone Kings, Dos Rios Dudes
PACIFIC DIVISION: Star City Lights, Coast City Clippers (b.BB.)
Hockey's Wales Conference:
ADAMS DIVISION: None (I think)
PATRICK DIVISION: Metropolis Mammoths, Gotham Blades
Hockey's Campbell Conference:
NORRIS DIVISION: Chicago Blackhawks (I don't know if those really
exist), Midway Wolverines
SMYTHE DIVISION: Hub City Slashers

Ok, I think that's all... At your feet,
KalEl el Vigilant

Larry

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Aug 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/15/98
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From the looks of the maps, Gotham City is in Jersey, while Metropolis
is in Delaware, near the Maryland line.

Interesting. I always though (when I was much younger) that both Gotham
and Metropolis were a _part_ of the New York area. Oh well, you live and
learn, or you don't live long.

Have a great day.

And watch out for zombies.

LArry Stanley

Chad Ripper

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Aug 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/17/98
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Larry wrote in message <35D5FC...@hotmail.com>...

>From the looks of the maps, Gotham City is in Jersey, while Metropolis
>is in Delaware, near the Maryland line.


I live in South Jersey right near where Gotham is placed in the atlas. My
grandpop told me a long time ago that a small city near me was used as a
model for Gotham. At the time he told me (which has to have been at least
12 years ago) i thought he was making it all up. Now I'm not so sure. Has
there ever been a map of Gotham published anywhere? I want to check this
out to see if there's any truth to what my grandpop said.....

Aaron Severson

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Aug 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/18/98
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In article <6raa3t$gl2$1...@news.jersey.net>,

Chad Ripper <Eight...@aol.com> wrote:
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>Larry wrote in message <35D5FC...@hotmail.com>...
>>From the looks of the maps, Gotham City is in Jersey, while Metropolis
>>is in Delaware, near the Maryland line.

The ATLAS OF THE DC UNIVERSE supplement for the Mayfair Games DC HEROES
roleplaying game specifically identifies Gotham as being in South Jersey
and Metropolis being in the southern part of Delaware.

>
>I live in South Jersey right near where Gotham is placed in the atlas. My
>grandpop told me a long time ago that a small city near me was used as a
>model for Gotham. At the time he told me (which has to have been at least
>12 years ago) i thought he was making it all up. Now I'm not so sure. Has
>there ever been a map of Gotham published anywhere? I want to check this
>out to see if there's any truth to what my grandpop said.....

Mayfair produced a map of Gotham City, showing its 24 neighborhoods, in
the 80s. The original version of this map appeared in the first edition
DC HEROES boxed set; the same map, along with somewhat expanded thumbnail
descriptions of the neighborhoods and landmarks, later ran in the NIGHT IN
GOTHAM supplement and (in somewhat different form) in the aforementioned
ATLAS OF THE DC UNIVERSE). The map, minus the thumbnail descriptions,
also appears in the second edition BATMAN SOURCEBOOK. A greatly
simplified version was shown in the Background/Roster book of the 2nd
edition boxed set.


There's also a map of Metropolis. Again, the original ran in the first
edition game set, and a somewhat revised version ran in ATLAS OF THE DC
UNIVERSE. A simplified version appeared in the second edition boxed set
and in the second edition SUPERMAN sourcebook.

The ATLAS OF THE DC UNIVERSE also includes a variety of other maps and
information on most of the fictional locales of the DC Universe, including
Central City, Coast City, and DCU-specific nations like Bialya and Qurac.
It has a bunch of esoteric information about the fictional world.

Metropolis, for instance, has two baseball teams, the Meteors (National
League East) and the Monarchs (American League East), an NFL football
team, also called the Meteors, and a hockey team, the Mammoths. It's also
listed as having four TV stations, WGBS (natch), WGMC, WMET, and WLEX.

While this book, and all the Mayfair Games material, was developed with
the cooperation of the DC staff (the ATLAS was actually written by writer
Paul Kupperberg), it's important to remember that it's not _official_.
The maps of Gotham, for instance, pretty accurately reflect the geography
of Gotham during the editorship of Len Wein (from about 1983-1986), and
they even appeared in Alan Moore's SWAMP THING #53, set in Gotham, but
Denny O'Neil, the current Batman group editor, is reluctant to establish a
firm geography for the city for fear of unduly restricting future stories.

As for Gotham being based on any real city, no, it was never based on any
city in South Jersey. Gotham has always been a stand-in for New York
City. In fact, in a number of Batman's early adventures (1939-1942), it's
specifically identified as New York -- the name "Gotham City" doesn't pop
up until the war era. And Denny O'Neil has said "I've long believed that
Batman's Gotham City is Manhattan below Fourteenth Street at eleven
minutes past midnight on the coldest night in November." It's only been
in recent decades that there's been any clear indication that Gotham,
Metropolis, and New York are separate entities in the DC Universe.

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Peter T. McDermott

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Aug 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/18/98
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Please someone post if they know who said it, but I _think_ it might
have been Frank Miller. "Metropolis is New York by day. Gotham City
is New York by night." That works for me the best.

Peter T. McDermott

Larry

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Aug 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/18/98
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I would love to get a map of Gotham and one of Metroplois (Frankly, I am
more interested in Metropolis) if anyone has one from those games that
they would be willing to get rid of.

Just let me know. Thanks.

LArry Stanley

> up until the war era. And Denny O'Neil has said "I've long believed that


> Batman's Gotham City is Manhattan below Fourteenth Street at eleven
> minutes past midnight on the coldest night in November." It's only been
> in recent decades that there's been any clear indication that Gotham,
> Metropolis, and New York are separate entities in the DC Universe.
>

Aaron Severson

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Aug 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/18/98
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In article <35D9BA...@pegasus8.att.com>,

Peter T. McDermott <pe...@pegasus8.att.com> wrote:
>Please someone post if they know who said it, but I _think_ it might
>have been Frank Miller. "Metropolis is New York by day. Gotham City
>is New York by night." That works for me the best.
>
> Peter T. McDermott
>
>FAaron Severson wrote:
>
>And Denny O'Neil has said "I've long believed that
>> Batman's Gotham City is Manhattan below Fourteenth Street at eleven
>> minutes past midnight on the coldest night in November."

Nope, that's always been Denny O'Neil's line, not Miller's. The above
quote is from the afterword to the KNIGHTFALL novelization, but O'Neil has
been repeating variations of the same line for years, saying that Gotham
is "recognizably New York, but with emphasis on the grimmer aspects of the
city" (quoted in TALES OF THE DARK KNIGHT: BATMAN'S FIRST FIFTY YEARS
1939-1989, by Mark Cotta Vaz).

Jeff

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Aug 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/19/98
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On Mon, 17 Aug 1998 18:13:53 -0400, "Chad Ripper"
<Supe...@skater.net> wrote:

>
>Larry wrote in message <35D5FC...@hotmail.com>...
>>From the looks of the maps, Gotham City is in Jersey, while Metropolis
>>is in Delaware, near the Maryland line.
>
>

>I live in South Jersey right near where Gotham is placed in the atlas. My
>grandpop told me a long time ago that a small city near me was used as a
>model for Gotham. At the time he told me (which has to have been at least
>12 years ago) i thought he was making it all up. Now I'm not so sure. Has
>there ever been a map of Gotham published anywhere? I want to check this
>out to see if there's any truth to what my grandpop said.....
>
>


I know there is a map of metropolis in the wizard magizine special

Marc Ouellette

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Aug 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/19/98
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There was also a map of Gotham in an issue of Wizard....as soon as I get
access to a scanner I'll send you a jpg or a Gif if you want....

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