Is Peppermint Patty gay?
Em
SnoopyChuk
If she is that is great because she is a great rolemodel.
But we must remember that these are just drawings and not real life therefore
it is close to impossible to know what is really behind the chacater.
I think that she is simply a tomboy. Not some pride flag carrying, Lilth Fair
Warrior, miss with me and I'll beat up kinda girl. She is basically a child
that is left to do things on her own...her parents are always gone
somewhere...she is just strong and confident.
And if she is a lesbian.....YOU GO GIRL!
chuck
Covenant
Em wrote in message <73om7b$3ag$1...@nnrp01.iafrica.com>...
>Is Peppermint Patty gay?
No.
otherwise why would she lust after Jaques in Bon Voyage Charlie Brown?
Covenant.
A Man With Far Too Much Time On His Hands But Who Still Doesn't Believe He
Answered This Silly Question.... ; ' )
MacMaddy
Dave L. Hardenbrook
>Is Peppermint Patty gay?
Is this the person who keeps posting on alt.music.enya asking if Enya is gay?
Is this person following me around? If I go over to rec.arts.books.childrens
now is (s)he going to ask them if Jo March is gay???
-- Dave
Spunky Martin
"Chuck" Brown for many years. However, I do recall an interview with
Marcie, in which she admitted to being bisexual. Franklin, is, of
course, openly gay, as is pigpen.
Spunky M.
Brian Young
time someone's posted this question. So far, the overall consensus is:
No!
I agree with the overall consensus.
Brian
Tom Tuerff
cats...@webtv.net (Spunky Martin) wrote:
Pigpen can't be gay. Have you ever known a gay guy who was that unkempt?
Not on this planet.
TT
vwundfov
ttu...@primenet.com (Tom Tuerff) wrote:
I thought he moved over to South Park, anyway...
jm...@europa.com
I was convinced for a while that she was, but considering how much she likes
Charlie Brown, she must not be. I think the big question is: what about
Marcie?
Captain Jean-Luc Picard
around asking if they're gay or saying they're gay. I think its insulting to
do that.
jm...@europa.com wrote in message <74g4q7$jil$1...@supernews.com>...
Bill Fishman
<bo...@slkc.uswest.net> wrote:
>If you're all true fans of the Peanuts characters, you wouldn't be going
>around asking if they're gay or saying they're gay. I think its insulting to
>do that.
Oh, I don't think so. There are plenty of gay and lesbian Peanuts fans who
would be proud and feel good if there were a gay Peanuts character. (The
way at least one fan in this group expressed delight about the existence
of Franklin, who is Black.) But, I don't think that Mr. Schulz is a
person, or of a generation, who would plan to have a character be gay.
Clearly P.Patty is a tomboy, and some tomboys turn out to be lesbians, but
I don't think Mr. Schulz thinks in these terms.
Captain Jean-Luc Picard
Bill Fishman wrote in message ...
Nat Gertler
matters, and matters of romantic interest already play a heavy
part in the strip.
Ezclee4050
Journal (highly recommended, BTW, if you can find it):
"Groth: He (Robert Crumb) deals very directly with the sexual impulse...Whereas
you skirt sexuality per se and deal with a much more romanticized or idealized
version of love: Charlie Brown and the red-haired girl...Peppermint Patty's
interest in Charlie Brown is oblique and touching, Lucy's unrequited love for
Schroeder, etc., but you deal directly with sexuality. Since the strip is one
of the most personal ever done and sexuality is such an important part of one's
life, I was wondering if you ever felt like you wanted to do that but couldn't
because of the newspaper strip format and the restrictions of the newspaper
audience?
Schulz: Well, in the first place, these are just little kids. That really puts
a lid on it right there."
Amen.
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Ezclee4050
>but you deal directly with sexuality.
this should be "but you _don't_ deal directly with sexuality". I typed this
really fast and wasn't paying attention. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Meanie
Nat Gertler wrote in message <366D9A83...@gertler.com>...
>That's a weak argument; much of what we see in Peanuts is private
>matters, and matters of romantic interest already play a heavy
>part in the strip.
What are you, a pedophile? This is a comic strip about goofy kids, where
"puppy love" is normal. But the out and out display of truly sexual
feelings is NEVER touched upon. WHY?? Because their KIDS. It seemed
obvious to me...
Nat Gertler
>
> Nat Gertler wrote in message <366D9A83...@gertler.com>...
> >That's a weak argument; much of what we see in Peanuts is private
> >matters, and matters of romantic interest already play a heavy
> >part in the strip.
>
> What are you, a pedophile?
Nope. Sure seems like a handy thing to throw at someone pointing
out the weaknesses in your statement, though.
> This is a comic strip about goofy kids, where
> "puppy love" is normal. But the out and out display of truly sexual
> feelings is NEVER touched upon. WHY?? Because their KIDS. It seemed
> obvious to me...
Who said anything about truly sexual feelings? I said "romance",
which can exist between members of the same sex just as it can
between members of differing sexes. Peanuts does touch on
private matters including romance.
kat...@my-dejanews.com
Oh! I'm fed up with such topics!!!
But I want to ask.
Hey, if P-Patty is gay, are Snoopy and Woodstock homosexual? No way!!!
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Timothy Chow
Meanie <Woo...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>Nat Gertler wrote in message <366D9A83...@gertler.com>...
>>That's a weak argument; much of what we see in Peanuts is private
>>matters, and matters of romantic interest already play a heavy
>>part in the strip.
>
>What are you, a pedophile?
This is a completely uncalled-for personal attack!
>This is a comic strip about goofy kids, where
>"puppy love" is normal. But the out and out display of truly sexual
>feelings is NEVER touched upon. WHY?? Because their KIDS. It seemed
>obvious to me...
I agree with this argument (it's roughly what Schulz himself has said,
according to someone else who posted here). But Nat Gertler's assertion
(which I also agree with) was that the argument that "sex is private" is
weak. Its weakness is not affected by the possible existence of other
arguments that are stronger.
--
Tim Chow tchow-at-alum-dot-mit-dot-edu
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and weighs 30 tons, computers in the future may have only 1,000 vacuum tubes
and perhaps weigh only 1 1/2 tons. ---Popular Mechanics, March 1949, p.258
Suns...@webtv.net
Peter King
>Well, P-Patty does seem the dominate one over Marcie and is rather
>protective over her...Marcie is rather a tomboy and some do turn out
>like that (notice I didn't say all)...sure they are kids now but who
>knows what those high school years can hold?! =)
> Sheri
>
Marcie is YOUNGER then Peppermint Patty. That's why their relationship is
that way.
Peter King in NY
Nat Gertler
> Marcie is YOUNGER then Peppermint Patty.
Is she? They're in the same grade at school.
Suns...@webtv.net
nos...@nospam.mit.edu
True, and when they tried to keep PP back a grade, her ghost continued to
snore at her seat, which so freaked everyone out that they relented and
promoted her!
Relative ages mutate in Peanuts. In the early days Charlie Brown was surely
older than Linus, but they're in the same grade now. When Marcie debuted,
PP was surely older than Marcie, and those early strips set the tone for
many features of their relationship. But they're probably about the same
age now.
Nat Gertler
>
> Relative ages mutate in Peanuts. In the early days Charlie Brown was surely
> older than Linus, but they're in the same grade now.
Now it still seems ot me that Lucy is clearly the older sister,
which would mean that she is now older than CB, an outright
reversal of the original situation.
Ah, the problems of 50-year-old kids.
Peter King
>
>Peter King wrote:
>> Marcie is YOUNGER then Peppermint Patty.
>
Yes. When Marcie was introduced, Peppermint Patty was Marcie's group
leader at camp. Presumably this job would be given to an older camper.
Given Peppermint Patty's propensity for getting a D-, she may have
repeated a grade. Or, Marcie may have skipped ahead.
Of course, the Peanuts characters age at different rates, so anything is
possible! Lucy was once younger than Charlie Brown. She was still a baby
when the strip started.
Peter King in NY
Scritch
>>Peter King wrote:
>Yes. When Marcie was introduced, Peppermint Patty was Marcie's group
>leader at camp. Presumably this job would be given to an older camper.
>
We don't know this for sure. This character was called Clara I believe.
Marcie appeared later. It's always been interesting in the similarities
between these two. If you have a Peanuts Collector's Club newsletter, there
was a good article on the comparisons between Clara and Marcie. I don't
remember the issue number but it was printed sometime last year.
Timothy Chow
<>>Peter King wrote:
<
<>Yes. When Marcie was introduced, Peppermint Patty was Marcie's group
<>leader at camp. Presumably this job would be given to an older camper.
<
<We don't know this for sure. This character was called Clara I believe.
<Marcie appeared later.
Although I strongly support the position that Clara is not Marcie, it is
still true that when Marcie was introduced, Peppermint Patty was in charge
of Marcie at camp. She would tell Marcie to run down to the dispensary on
her "Ruby Keeler legs" and things like that.
JonRyusei
BGX...@prodigy.com (Peter King) wrote:
>Nat Gertler <n...@gertler.com> wrote:
>>
>>Peter King wrote:
>>> Marcie is YOUNGER then Peppermint Patty.
>>
>>Is she? They're in the same grade at school.
>
>Yes. When Marcie was introduced, Peppermint Patty was Marcie's group
>leader at camp. Presumably this job would be given to an older camper.
>
>Given Peppermint Patty's propensity for getting a D-, she may have
>repeated a grade. Or, Marcie may have skipped ahead.
>
>Of course, the Peanuts characters age at different rates, so anything is
>possible! Lucy was once younger than Charlie Brown. She was still a baby
>when the strip started.
I still think Charlie Brown is the oldest of the bunch. Lucy, IMHO, is
only closer to his age, from the looks of it. I kind of feel like CB when
younger students at high school try to boss me around (like Lucy does).
Otherwise, he IS the manager of the baseball team, and the more responsible one
. . . :)
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JonRyusei wrote:
I still think Charlie Brown is the oldest of the bunch. Lucy, IMHO, is
> only closer to his age, from the looks of it. I kind of feel like CB when
> younger students at high school try to boss me around (like Lucy does).
> Otherwise, he IS the manager of the baseball team, and the more responsible one
> . . . :)
Needless to say, this is only true in "recent years" (i.e. the last 40 or so years
;-)
In the earliest strips, CB was notably younger than the other kids and Lucy, when
she was introduced, was notably younger than CB.
N
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Mark Skrbich
be understood PP was held back or Marcie skipped a grade
®Mark
"Without deviation from the norm there can be no progress"
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> Is Peppermint Patty gay?
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chickens screaming "We must appease the Politically Correct. Which
character can we make gay?" No doubt next month they'll also announce
that Fred is actually black and Shaggy is disabled. :-\