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The estate of Jack Kirby versus Marvel

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Dur

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Jan 9, 2010, 12:36:17 PM1/9/10
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LA Times

The battle between Marvel Entertainment and the Jack Kirby estate is
bringing out each side�s inner Hulk.

The comic book publisher and movie producer, which was recently
acquired by the Walt Disney Co. in a $4-billion deal, has unleashed a
lawsuit that seeks to invalidate the copyright termination claims made
by the heirs to the iconic artist. It's the latest tactic in the fight
over profits from some of the most lucrative superhero characters,
including The Hulk, Iron man, Spider-Man, Thor, The Avengers and many
others (Amazon.com: http://u.nu/38fh4 )...

Jack Kirby was a renowned artist instrumental in the creation and
shaping of these characters, his family argues, and is thus entitled
to profits like any other copyright-holder. Disney has maintained that
Kirby�s work was considered for-hire and that his heirs are thus not
owed any further profits...

Continued: http://u.nu/57fh4

Will Dockery

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Jan 9, 2010, 9:01:04 PM1/9/10
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On Jan 9, 12:36 pm, Dur <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]>
wrote:

> LA Times
>
> The battle between Marvel Entertainment and the Jack Kirby estate is
> bringing out each side s inner Hulk.

>
> The comic book publisher and movie producer, which was recently
> acquired by the Walt Disney Co. in a $4-billion deal, has unleashed a
> lawsuit that seeks to invalidate the copyright termination claims made
> by the heirs to the iconic artist. It's the latest tactic in the fight
> over profits from some of the most lucrative superhero characters,
> including The Hulk, Iron man, Spider-Man, Thor, The Avengers and many
> others (Amazon.com:http://u.nu/38fh4)...
>
> Jack Kirby was a renowned artist instrumental in the creation and
> shaping of these characters, his family argues, and is thus entitled
> to profits like any other copyright-holder. Disney has maintained that
> Kirby s work was considered for-hire and that his heirs are thus not

> owed any further profits...
>
> Continued:http://u.nu/57fh4

Jeeze. Marvel's never ending attempts to fuck Jack Kirby over.

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Anim8rFSK

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Jan 9, 2010, 9:36:51 PM1/9/10
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In article
<a1d4005b-598d-4bdc...@a15g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Will Dockery <will.d...@gmail.com> wrote:

Kirby's family is trying to end Marvel's copyrights. Marvel is supposed
to just sit there and let it happen?

--
As Adam West as Bruce Wayne as Batman said in "Smack in the Middle"
the second half of the series pilot when Jill St. John as Molly as
Robin as Molly fell into the Batmobile's atomic pile:
"What a way to go-go"

William George Ferguson

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Jan 10, 2010, 12:15:55 AM1/10/10
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Especially since the Kirby heirs are claiming copyright on characters that
Kirby had any connection with whatsoever, not just those he clearly created
and/or co-created. They are going after Spider-Man specifically, although
Kirby had only done a concept drawing which wasn't used and the cover art
for the the first issue. Ditko should be the one going after Spider-Man.

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Will Dockery

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Jan 10, 2010, 1:34:34 AM1/10/10
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On Jan 10, 12:15 am, William George Ferguson <wmgfr...@newsguy.com>
wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 19:36:51 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
> >In article
> ><a1d4005b-598d-4bdc-8d5a-bdbafd53d...@a15g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,

Yeah, I had only heard the blurb on Fox News today... I didn't know
about the Spider-Man art. That does seem a bit ut there.

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"Red Lipped Stranger & other stories" by Will Dockery:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

>

Anim8rFSK

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Jan 11, 2010, 10:52:40 AM1/11/10
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In article <f5oik5p9240pu51in...@4ax.com>,

If they can specify visual rights, Kirby did create the costume. They
might have some 'creation' on that one, but certainly no 'shaping'

Does Stan get buckets of money as residuals for having 'created' these
characters every time they appear, or do his zillions come from all the
deals he made after Kirby left Marvel? Does Stan even have copyright
interest in Spider-Man?

--
As Adam West as Bruce Wayne as Batman said in "Smack in the Middle"

the second half of the 1966 BATMAN series pilot when Jill St. John

Will Dockery

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Jan 7, 2013, 11:14:51 PM1/7/13
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On Saturday, January 9, 2010 9:36:51 PM UTC-5, Anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article
> <a1d4005b-598d-4bdc...@a15g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > On Jan 9, 12:36�pm, Dur <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]>
> > wrote:
> > > LA Times
> > >
> > > The battle between Marvel Entertainment and the Jack Kirby estate is
> > > bringing out each side s inner Hulk.
> > >
> > > The comic book publisher and movie producer, which was recently
> > > acquired by the Walt Disney Co. in a $4-billion deal, has unleashed a
> > > lawsuit that seeks to invalidate the copyright termination claims made
> > > by the heirs to the iconic artist. It's the latest tactic in the fight
> > > over profits from some of the most lucrative superhero characters,
> > > including The Hulk, Iron man, Spider-Man, Thor, The Avengers and many
> > > others (Amazon.com:http://u.nu/38fh4)...
> > >
> > > Jack Kirby was a renowned artist instrumental in the creation and
> > > shaping of these characters, his family argues, and is thus entitled
> > > to profits like any other copyright-holder. Disney has maintained that
> > > Kirby s work was considered for-hire and that his heirs are thus not
> > > owed any further profits...
> > >
> > > Continued:http://u.nu/57fh4
> >
> > Jeeze. Marvel's never ending attempts to fuck Jack Kirby over.
> >
>
> Kirby's family is trying to end Marvel's copyrights. Marvel is supposed
> to just sit there and let it happen?

Kirby's family should at least get a cut of these characters the man created, right?

Will Dockery

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Jan 7, 2013, 11:16:49 PM1/7/13
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On Monday, January 11, 2010 10:52:40 AM UTC-5, Anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article <f5oik5p9240pu51in...@4ax.com>,
> William George Ferguson <wmgf...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 19:36:51 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > >In article
> > ><a1d4005b-598d-4bdc...@a15g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Excellent questions...

Not sure how, or if, this was resolved?

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