Twilight of the Superheroes...
Steve K
Or e-mail me if it's too hairy a legal situation for such information to
be broadcast in such a wide arena....
Also, can someone tell me which issues of Swamp Thing were collected in
the two DC paperbacks?
many many thanks
steve K
kcup
group - I've sent the man a copy anyway
for reasons why posting this info here might be a bad idea go to
http://www.hoboes.com/html/Comics/Twilight/
kcup
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morgan thomas
kcup <kett...@tesco.net> wrote in message
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> I recomend that you do not mail addresses featuring full proposal to this
> group - I've sent the man a copy anyway
Ooh. Could you send me a copy as well? I've been dying to read it for ages.
kcup
Do take the time to read the story of CD hassling the guy who's site I got
it from a long time ago at > http://www.hoboes.com/html/Comics/Twilight/ -
it's interesting.
kcup
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kcup
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Wow, I just managed to get hold of the proposal, read it last night. I don't
really know what to think about it. Some of it is really cool, but a lot of
it strikes me as silly. Ah well, I suppose it is 13yrs old now, and it's no
longer 'cutting edge'.
Killans - First And Last And Always
Agreed. There's something very adolescent about the "group into gangs and
fight each other" mentality. A bit like something you'd see in a bad RPG,
or something.
Mind you, remember that this was just a proposal. I'm sure that it
would have undergone major revisions before actually seeing the light
of day.
Mike
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Kevin J. Maroney
>Agreed. There's something very adolescent about the "group into gangs and
>fight each other" mentality. A bit like something you'd see in a bad RPG,
>or something.
Less "gangs" and more "families". But I agree; the proposal reads like
Moore trying to sell out big but not really quite understanding how.
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ADAM2K
oh well. if you want to see what could've been (or whatever) in a
year's time, i'll be posting my version of the story, an on-line
graphic novel kind of thing... all i need are at least 4 artists...
anyone interested? golden age feel, modern age feel, realistic feel...
adam
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Before you buy.
Christopher W. Shumway
: mcol...@nyx.net (Killans - First And Last And Always) wrote:
:>Agreed. There's something very adolescent about the "group into gangs and
:>fight each other" mentality. A bit like something you'd see in a bad RPG,
:>or something.
: Less "gangs" and more "families". But I agree; the proposal reads like
: Moore trying to sell out big but not really quite understanding how.
Well, the proposal was written for execs and whatnot, I suppose. It's
amusing to read Moore attempting to pimp out his ideas in their language.
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Chris
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Steve K
> Well, the proposal was written for execs and whatnot, I suppose. It's
> amusing to read Moore attempting to pimp out his ideas in their language.
After reading the proposal last night (thanks to kcup and bala, who both sent
it to me), I've gotta agree with this.... I think that, perhaps unfortunately,
the best idea we're going to get of what "Twilight" could have been is in the
terms that Moore spelled it out to the "suits" at DC. Working for a major
publishing company myself, I know (and many can imagine) how much one must
change one's pitch to suit those who will catch it....
Keeping that in mind, however, I thought it was a fascinating idea. I'm far
from a DC Universe expert, but as Moore points out several times in the
proposal, he intends the story to be entertaining to both DC aficionados and
casuals alike.... and speaking as a DC casual, he succeeds with the proposal
alone. In fact, some of my favorite Moore stand-alone stories are those that
deal with DC characters (his several Superman stories, the Green Lantern
stories, Killing Joke, etc.), perhaps because of his excitement with the
characters' (and universe's) rich history, and his innate ability to rewrite
and redefine it within 24 (sometimes less) pages. Same goes for his story in
the first Spirit Adventures, or whatever that book was/is called.
In fact, that's probably one of the main reasons behind the entertainment value
of his work on Supreme and his superhero-related ABC stuff (what I've read of
it, anyway): In those instances, he's creating his own "universe history" to
draw on as it's relayed to the reader, and this reader gets an equal level of
enjoyment from the aforementioned titles as he did from the stand-alone DC
stuff; in my opinion, it's still Moore, putting his own twist on existing
ideas, he's just got to create the ideas himself in the first place this time.
I believe I've rambled enough on this particular topic....
steve K