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Dee Cassidy

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Toothwatch Release Listing
4th November 2004
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Sometimes these things need a feminine touch.
The aim of the Toothwatch Release Lists is to identify new comic books
(released to comic specialty shops through Diamond Distributors) whose
creators have worked on 2000AD related projects.
For links, news and other stuff visit the Toothwatch website :
http://www.toothwatch.co.uk
There's links to all listed TPBs there too, and more on the creator database
pages.
Archived lists are available at the Toothwatch Yahoo Group :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/toothwatch
================
Aloha. I'm not Jim, as you possibly noticed. I've got the spare keys to his
house though.
This'll be the first in an occasional series of incidents where Toothwatch
gets outsourced to a metaphorical call centre in India to cut costs, or in
other words, I write it.
The info is off the website, still put together by Jim, the comments are
mine, not put together by Jim. I know much less about comics, so don't
expect anything terribly in depth or well researched. I'm not totally sure
this'll show up on the mailing list, but I'm trying.
Now that's all explained, let's begin.

DC Comics
* Detective Comics #800 : Written by Andersen Gabrych and David Lapham. Art
by Pete Woods, Cam Smith and Lapham. Cover by Jock.
Don't miss this landmark, extra-sized issue! Following the shocking
events of "War Games," Batman faces an entirely different - and dangerous -
Gotham City. And with Killer Croc and the Mad Hatter on the loose, does the
Dark Knight even stand a chance? Plus, a backup story written and
illustrated by David Lapham serves as a prelude to the next epic Detective
Comics storyline, Lapham's "City of Crime!"
{Oooh, I like David Lapham. Not enough to sign up for a year's worth of
Batman though.}
* The Intimates #1 [Wildstorm] : Written by Joe Casey. Art by Giuseppe
Camuncoli, Sandra Hope and Jim Lee. Cover by Lee, Hope and Rian Hughes.
These teens are learning to save the world.one class at a time!
Welcome to the Seminary, where teenagers learn how to be super-heroes. It
provides the backdrop for The Intimates, a new series co-created by Jim Lee,
with writer Joe Casey, and penciller Giuseppe Camuncoli! This story features
art by Camuncoli & Hope with additional panels of a comic-within-a-comic by
Lee. The Intimates follows the misadventures of Punchy, Destra, the Duke,
Empty Vee and Sykes as they cope with a curriculum that includes Secret
Identity 101, NuPhysics and even Morality Class - everything they'll need to
one day become great super-heroes. But things aren't what they seem at the
Seminary, which contains a dark secret even the retired super-hero faculty
may be unaware of! These kids are the future of the WildStorm Universe - but
right now they're late for gym class!
{Pretty much hanging it's hopes on Jim Lee's name appeal, I'd have guessed.
Whether the people that bought, and are buying, his runs on Batman &
Superman will follow him here or not remains to be seen. Gut feeling says
no, and that this book will be lucky to see 18 issues.}
* JLA : Classified #1 : Written by Grant Morrison. Art and cover by Ed
McGuinness & Dexter Vines.
Grant Morrison, the groundbreaking writer who helped relaunch the JLA
nearly a decade ago, returns to the World's Greatest Heroes for the first
story arc of JLA : Classified! This new series tells extraordinary tales
featuring Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, The Flash, and all your favorite
super-heroes written and illustrated by rotating teams of comics' top
talent! In the first part of a 3-part story that launches this landmark
series, featuring art by the fan- favorite team of Ed McGuinness & Dexter
Vines, the Ultra-Marines take the brunt of an assault by Gorilla Grodd's
guerrilla-militia. But where's the JLA? Only Batman remains to sort out this
mystery!
{I'm ambivilent on Grant Morrison, and really disliked what I've read of his
JLA issues, so I won't be going anywhere near this unless I hear brilliant
things about it. Or, y'know, if Jim buys it and I can read his.}
* Majestic #4 (Of 4) : Written by Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning, Art by Karl
Kerschl. Cover by Ed McGuinness & Dexter Vines.
The shocking finale features the climactic battle: Majestic versus the
Eradicator! Majestic just wants to get home, but the Eradicator stands in
his way. And what of the Daemonite probe that followed Majestic to the DCU?
{Don't really know much about Mr. Majestic, but this mini series hasn't
really been anything special. Didn't look like it was doing much sales-wise
either when I checked, but it's obviously doing well enough, since there's
an ongoing series starting in January, by the same writers, with Neil Googe
coming on as artist. Maybe that will be better, since it's moving back into
Wildstorm.}
*The Question #1 (Of 6) : Written by Rick Veitch. Art and cover by Tommy Lee
Edwards.
Vic Sage - a.k.a. The Question - battles back in a mind-bending
6-issue miniseries written by Rick Veitch with art by Tommy Lee Edwards! Vic
Sage is a TV journalist with an uncanny ability to break difficult stories,
thanks in large part to his relentless crime-fighting campaign as the
Question! But has the faceless vigilante's particular brand of harsh justice
finally sent him off the deep end? Prowling the meanest streets of his
native Chicago, the trench-coated Question thinks he also walks in another
world - a strange shamanic space full of shadowy dangers. When Sage hears
the voice of Superman's home city of Metropolis, he answers the call. Is he
crazy? That's the question.
{I've read - and loved - some old Question stories from the 80s, but I'm not
too sure I fancy this. Don't normally like Rick Veitch much, and Edwards is
pretty much unknown to me, other than he was involved with DC's Legends Of
The Law Dredd series at some point, allowing his inclusion here.}
* Red Razors TPB [2000AD] : Written by Mark Millar. Art by Steve Yeowell &
Nigel Dobbyn. Cover by Yeowell.
Get ready, comrades - Sov-Block Two's most psychotic Judge is on the
loose and coming for you! Written by Mark Millar, with art by Steve Yeowell
& Nigel Dobbyn, this irreverent look at Judge Dredd's world will melt your
mind! Formerly a violent thug, Judge Razors - now a violent thug with
authority - is part of an experiment designed to transform Sov-Block Two's
most savage criminals into the most brutal Judges the city has ever known.
Accompanied by Ed the talking horse, Razors is on a mission to investigate
the theft of the Holy Corpse of Elvis, as well as the city's plague of
superannuated terrorists!
{Hrm, never read any of this, but I don't much like Mark Millar, and have
always been advised to avoid his 2000AD work in particular.}
* Sleeper Season Two #5 (Of 12) [Wildstorm] : Written by Ed Brubaker. Art
and cover by Sean Phillips.
Tao and Lynch first crossed paths eight years ago. What happened then
that solidified the animosity between these two master manipulators? Find
out in this harrowing, edge-of-your-seat tale!
{Only borrowed Poit Blank and Season One so far for reading, but really
enjoyed both of them. I'll get to this season eventually.}
* Tom Strong Book Four HC [America's Best Comics] : Written by Alan Moore,
Peter Hogan and Geoff Johns. Art by Jerry Ordway, Chris Sprouse, John Paul
Leon & Karl Story. Cover by Sprouse & Jose Villarrubia.
The fourth amazing collection of Tom Strong adventures is here,
collecting issues #20-25 of the acclaimed series! This volume begins with
the 3-part story "Meet Tom Stone" by Alan Moore & Jerry Ordway that takes us
on a parallel journey through time! Plus, revelations about Tom's past,
including the introduction of a newly discovered Strong family member, Tom
Strong's best pal, and the final fate of Tom's girlfriend Greta.

Image Comics
* Jack Staff Vol 2 Soldiers TPB : Story & art by Paul Grist.
Twenty years ago, on the streets of Castletown, Jack Staff fought
Hurricane, the most destructive weapon ever developed by the British Army.
It turned out to be his final battle. This volume reveals the full story
behind that final fight and why Jack Staff walked away from his place as
Britain's Greatest Hero, and what happened twenty years later when the
Hurricane hits Castletown for a second time. Collects Jack Staff #1-5

Marvel Comics
* Astonishing X-Men #6 : Written by Joss Whedon. Art & Cover by John
Cassaday.
"Gifted" Part 6. Outnumbered and outgunned, the X-Men are finally
brought together as a team by their newest addition - but are they too late
to stop the "Cure" from destroying mutantkind? If you haven't read
Astonishing X-Men - if you're the one - then read it now! After the events
of issue #5 - and its shocking return of a classic character - you must not
miss another issue!
{Now this, I really enjoy. Probably doesn't hurt that I'm a liked Buffy a
lot. John Cassaday's art is fab too.}
* Captain America & The Falcon #9 : Written by Christopher Priest. Pencils &
Cover by Joe Bennett.
"Brothers and Keepers (Adelphoite Phylaxes)" Part 2 (of 5). Modok's
origin is revealed as the Mental Organism Designed Only for Killing
continues stalking former A.I.M. agents across Europe. Cap attempts to
broker a cease-fire with Navy Intelligence. But, although the fate of the
Anti-Cap appears to be resolved, the government refuses to drop criminal
charges against The Falcon, which in turn pushes The Falcon to even more
extreme measures. But, has he gone too far this time?
{Now, like I said, I'm not all that knowledgable about comics, but I've seen
MODOK before. Giant head, tiny little arms, legs and body. Surely you'd
notice if THAT was stalking you?}
* Sabretooth #3 (Of 5) : Written by Daniel Way. Penciled by Bart Sears.
Cover by Paolo Rivera.
As Sasquatch embarks on a mission to capture or destroy Sabretooth,
more mysterious questions are raised. Has Sabretooth slaughtered an entire
town of innocent civilians? And if not, what mysterious agent has turned the
desolate and isolated Isle Dupree into a graveyard?
{And really, who gives a fig?}
* The Punisher #13 [MAX] : Written by Garth Ennis. Penciled by Dougie
Braithwaite. Cover by Tim Bradstreet.
"Mother Russia" Part 1. Nicky Fury's got a job that needs doing - in
Russia. The kind of suicide mission any sane man wouldn't ponder for a
second. And that's exactly why he needs Frank Castle.
{Should settle questions about whether the Max run is canon or not at least,
depending on whether it's regular Nick Fury, or Cold War bastard Nick Fury
from Ennis & Robertson's mini series from a few years ago. Can't help but
hope it's the latter.}
* Ultimate Fantastic Four #12 : Written by Warren Ellis. Pencils & Cover by
Stuart Immonen.
"Doom" Part 6. The Fantastic Four have tracked Victor Van Damme down
to the "Free State" he's formed in the middle of Copenhagen. But Van Damme
has an army and the Fantastic Four only have themselves.
* Venom Vs Carnage #4 (Of 4) : Written by Peter Milligan. Art & Cover by
Clayton Crain.
It's a symbiote battle royale as Venom, Carnage and their new
offspring - Toxin - go head-to-head in the teeth-shattering climax to this
new arc. But can Spider-Man bring peace to these three family members before
they destroy New York?!
{Nah, they'll probably just escape for a while, until someone else has the
silly idea to use Carnage, the worst character ever.}

Err, that's about it from me, since I don't have much of a scoob what I'm
doing here. I'll reply to anything I can, and Jimlad will probably be along
at some point too, quite likely mocking me for saying something dumb. That's
what I get for helping...
Cheers, Donna.

http://www.toothwatch.co.uk

SimonD

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"Dee Cassidy" <cassidy...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:rsThd.1621$Fu3...@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...

> * Red Razors TPB [2000AD] : Written by Mark Millar. Art by Steve Yeowell &
> Nigel Dobbyn. Cover by Yeowell.
> Get ready, comrades - Sov-Block Two's most psychotic Judge is on the
> loose and coming for you! Written by Mark Millar, with art by Steve
> Yeowell
> & Nigel Dobbyn, this irreverent look at Judge Dredd's world will melt your
> mind! Formerly a violent thug, Judge Razors - now a violent thug with
> authority - is part of an experiment designed to transform Sov-Block Two's
> most savage criminals into the most brutal Judges the city has ever known.
> Accompanied by Ed the talking horse, Razors is on a mission to investigate
> the theft of the Holy Corpse of Elvis, as well as the city's plague of
> superannuated terrorists!
> {Hrm, never read any of this, but I don't much like Mark Millar, and have
> always been advised to avoid his 2000AD work in particular.}

I didn't mind Razors in the Meg, but I hated Red Razors in 2000AD. Which one
is this I wonder?
SimonD


Jim Connick

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SimonD wrote
: > * Red Razors TPB [2000AD] : Written by Mark Millar. Art by Steve Yeowell

&
: > Nigel Dobbyn. Cover by Yeowell.

: I didn't mind Razors in the Meg, but I hated Red Razors in 2000AD. Which


one
: is this I wonder?
: SimonD

Both. I've got no info on exactly what is collected, but since Yeowell did
the art for the Meg run, and Dobbyn did the 2000AD stuff, it looks like it's
a "complete Red Razors".
Working from the page count, it looks to contain the Meg series, the 2000AD
stuff and maybe the Mega Specials stuff too.

Jim Connick

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: Toothwatch Release Listing
: 4th November 2004
: ================
: For links, news and other stuff visit the Toothwatch website :

: http://www.toothwatch.co.uk
: There's links to all listed TPBs there too, and more on the creator
database
: pages.
: ================

My comments, and an addition.

: DC Comics
: * The Intimates #1 [Wildstorm] : Written by Joe Casey. Art by Giuseppe


: Camuncoli, Sandra Hope and Jim Lee. Cover by Lee, Hope and Rian Hughes.
: These teens are learning to save the world.one class at a time!

: {Pretty much hanging it's hopes on Jim Lee's name appeal, I'd have


guessed.
: Whether the people that bought, and are buying, his runs on Batman &
: Superman will follow him here or not remains to be seen. Gut feeling says
: no, and that this book will be lucky to see 18 issues.}

[I'm cautoisly looking forward to this. Might be great, might be awful. I
like Casey & Cammo enough to be hopeful.]

: * JLA : Classified #1 : Written by Grant Morrison. Art and cover by Ed
: McGuinness & Dexter Vines.
: {I'm ambivilent on Grant Morrison, and really disliked what I've read of


his
: JLA issues, so I won't be going anywhere near this unless I hear brilliant
: things about it. Or, y'know, if Jim buys it and I can read his.}

[You are SOL, I'm not buying it either. Not very fond of Morrison's JLA,
even less fond of McGuinness' art.]
: * Majestic #4 (Of 4) : Written by Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning, Art by Karl


: Kerschl. Cover by Ed McGuinness & Dexter Vines.

: {Don't really know much about Mr. Majestic, but this mini series hasn't


: really been anything special. Didn't look like it was doing much
sales-wise
: either when I checked, but it's obviously doing well enough, since there's
: an ongoing series starting in January, by the same writers, with Neil
Googe
: coming on as artist. Maybe that will be better, since it's moving back
into
: Wildstorm.}

It would be selling well for a Wildstorm book, going by the numbers, but for
a DCU title, coming off a Superman arc, I'd be disappointed with the sales
if I were DC. It lost almost a quarter of it's audience between the first
and second issues too, which is rarely a good sign.

Now for an addition :
# The Originals HC [Vertigo] : Written by Dave Gibbons. Art and cover by
Gibbons.
The Originals. When they walk, they look cool. When they ride, they drive
fast. And when they hate, they fight - brutally. One of comics' most
esteemed names, Dave Gibbons arrives at Vertigo to deliver an original
hardcover graphic novel he's been waiting his entire life to write and draw.
Lel and Bok - two best friends - want nothing more than to join the
Originals, the top gang on the streets. Through them, they'll meet the
high-speed world of hover scooters, all-night clubs, and, for Lel, the girl
of his dreams. But with the fast life comes tough foes, and tribal loyalty
will teach them the unforgettable meaning of unforgivable loss. Neither a
science-fiction story nor set in a mundane reality, The Originals takes
place in a world both familiar and strange, where the young are angry, loyal
and fight for what they believe in. And the only thing more important than
who your friends are is who your friends hate.
[My fault this didn't show up on this week's list. Diamond have it done as
shipping next week, so I followed their list. Some places got it last week,
others are getting it this week. Should be in my next comic delivery. I'm
looking forward to it a lot, even though I can barely remember the preview
in Vertigo X, way back when.]

: *The Question #1 (Of 6) : Written by Rick Veitch. Art and cover by Tommy
Lee
: Edwards.
: {I've read - and loved - some old Question stories from the 80s, but I'm


not
: too sure I fancy this. Don't normally like Rick Veitch much, and Edwards
is
: pretty much unknown to me, other than he was involved with DC's Legends Of
: The Law Dredd series at some point, allowing his inclusion here.}

[Edwards is brilliant, and criminally underrated. Holding out for good
reviews and a TPB here though.]

: * Red Razors TPB [2000AD] : Written by Mark Millar. Art by Steve Yeowell &


: Nigel Dobbyn. Cover by Yeowell.

: {Hrm, never read any of this, but I don't much like Mark Millar, and have


: always been advised to avoid his 2000AD work in particular.}

[I've read little bits & pieces. Can't say I was impressed.]
: * Sleeper Season Two #5 (Of 12) [Wildstorm] : Written by Ed Brubaker. Art


: and cover by Sean Phillips.

: {Only borrowed Point Blank and Season One so far for reading, but really


: enjoyed both of them. I'll get to this season eventually.}

[Does this mean I can get Point Blank & Season one back yet?]
:
: Image Comics


: * Jack Staff Vol 2 Soldiers TPB : Story & art by Paul Grist.

[I'll pick this up when money allows, having given up on the regular series
being anywhere near regular.]
:
: Marvel Comics


: * Astonishing X-Men #6 : Written by Joss Whedon. Art & Cover by John
: Cassaday.

: {Now this, I really enjoy. Probably doesn't hurt that I'm a liked Buffy a


: lot. John Cassaday's art is fab too.}

[I'm enjoying this, but I suspect I'd be liking it a whole lot less if John
Cassaday & Laura Martin weren't on art & colours. I've got major issues with
the pacing too. As far as we know, Whedon is now halfway through his tenure
on the book, and he's moving at such a slow pace he's going to leave an
awful lot unsresolved after his year on the title. File under pretty but
uninspiring.]
: * Captain America & The Falcon #9 : Written by Christopher Priest. Pencils


&
: Cover by Joe Bennett.

: {Now, like I said, I'm not all that knowledgable about comics, but I've


seen
: MODOK before. Giant head, tiny little arms, legs and body. Surely you'd
: notice if THAT was stalking you?}

[Ah, that's what you think! Didn't I mention MODOK went to the Jim school of
stalking? Just ask Graeme how unnerving it is.]
: * The Punisher #13 [MAX] : Written by Garth Ennis. Penciled by Dougie


: Braithwaite. Cover by Tim Bradstreet.

[Can't wait till everyone gets what they deserve at the end of the arc.]
: * Ultimate Fantastic Four #12 : Written by Warren Ellis. Pencils & Cover
by
: Stuart Immonen.
[Pretty much unrelated, but everyone should read Immonen's "50 reasons not
to do sketches" here http://maj.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=321

: Err, that's about it from me, since I don't have much of a scoob what I'm


: doing here. I'll reply to anything I can, and Jimlad will probably be
along
: at some point too, quite likely mocking me for saying something dumb.

Nah, you did fine. Better watch out, people might start noticing how easy
this is...

: http://www.toothwatch.co.uk
:

Graeme

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Errr... this is a little bit weird. You're not doing a Sc*j* on us are
you, Jim?

Dee Cassidy wrote:
> Toothwatch Release Listing
> 4th November 2004
> ================
> Sometimes these things need a feminine touch.

And if there's one thing a bunch of comic-book reading makes likes, it's
feminine touches. Hur hur.

> Aloha. I'm not Jim, as you possibly noticed.

I don't know... I've never seen the two of you in the same room at the
same time.

> The info is off the website, still put together by Jim, the comments are
> mine, not put together by Jim. I know much less about comics, so don't
> expect anything terribly in depth or well researched.

Are you *sure* you're not Jim? :)

> * Detective Comics #800 : Written by Andersen Gabrych and David Lapham. Art
> by Pete Woods, Cam Smith and Lapham. Cover by Jock.

> {Oooh, I like David Lapham. Not enough to sign up for a year's worth of
> Batman though.}

I've heard a lot of good things about Lapham, and I don't mind Batman
when he's done well ... so I may actually give the upcoming Lapham arc a
look-see.

> * The Intimates #1 [Wildstorm] : Written by Joe Casey. Art by Giuseppe
> Camuncoli, Sandra Hope and Jim Lee. Cover by Lee, Hope and Rian Hughes.

> {Pretty much hanging it's hopes on Jim Lee's name appeal, I'd have guessed.
> Whether the people that bought, and are buying, his runs on Batman &
> Superman will follow him here or not remains to be seen. Gut feeling says
> no, and that this book will be lucky to see 18 issues.}

Which is probably not far off the mark, but would be a shame nonetheless
- I'd like to see Casey be able to get his teeth into something where he
could work at his own pace without having to worry about meeting monthly
sales quotas.

> * JLA : Classified #1 : Written by Grant Morrison. Art and cover by Ed
> McGuinness & Dexter Vines.
> Grant Morrison, the groundbreaking writer who helped relaunch the JLA
> nearly a decade ago, returns to the World's Greatest Heroes for the first
> story arc of JLA : Classified! This new series tells extraordinary tales
> featuring Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, The Flash, and all your favorite
> super-heroes written and illustrated by rotating teams of comics' top
> talent! In the first part of a 3-part story that launches this landmark
> series, featuring art by the fan- favorite team of Ed McGuinness & Dexter
> Vines, the Ultra-Marines take the brunt of an assault by Gorilla Grodd's
> guerrilla-militia. But where's the JLA? Only Batman remains to sort out this
> mystery!
> {I'm ambivilent on Grant Morrison, and really disliked what I've read of his
> JLA issues, so I won't be going anywhere near this unless I hear brilliant
> things about it. Or, y'know, if Jim buys it and I can read his.}

> * Majestic #4 (Of 4) : Written by Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning, Art by Karl
> Kerschl. Cover by Ed McGuinness & Dexter Vines.

> {Don't really know much about Mr. Majestic, but this mini series hasn't
> really been anything special. Didn't look like it was doing much sales-wise
> either when I checked, but it's obviously doing well enough, since there's
> an ongoing series starting in January, by the same writers, with Neil Googe
> coming on as artist. Maybe that will be better, since it's moving back into
> Wildstorm.}

It might be okay, provided Abnett and Lannine don't pull Majestic's
claws too much in the wake of the mini-series. One of the nice things
about the Wildstorm universe has been that it doesn't play by the
conventional superhero rules, and having Majestic (of all people) carry
these back to his home imprint like some kind of genre contagion would
be extremely disappointing.

Majestic's a challenging character to write well - even more so than
Superman, because he doesn't operate within the same ethical constraints
and isn't as touchy/feely about humanity.

> * Red Razors TPB [2000AD] : Written by Mark Millar. Art by Steve Yeowell &
> Nigel Dobbyn. Cover by Yeowell.

> {Hrm, never read any of this, but I don't much like Mark Millar, and have
> always been advised to avoid his 2000AD work in particular.}

This TPB contains good Millar/Razors (about 30-40 pages of it, I think)
and the rest is all bad Millar/Razors. Not a particularly good or
evenly-balanced collection, this one.

> * Sleeper Season Two #5 (Of 12) [Wildstorm] : Written by Ed Brubaker. Art
> and cover by Sean Phillips.

> {Only borrowed Poit Blank and Season One so far for reading, but really
> enjoyed both of them. I'll get to this season eventually.}

SLEEPER is easily one of the best books on the market at the moment.

> * Astonishing X-Men #6 : Written by Joss Whedon. Art & Cover by John
> Cassaday.

> {Now this, I really enjoy. Probably doesn't hurt that I'm a liked Buffy a
> lot. John Cassaday's art is fab too.}

I'm still pretty evenly split on this - the things I like are almost
exactly balanced out by the things I don't like, and my enjoyment of
each issue depends on what mood I'm in when I'm reading it.

> * Captain America & The Falcon #9 : Written by Christopher Priest. Pencils &
> Cover by Joe Bennett.
> "Brothers and Keepers (Adelphoite Phylaxes)" Part 2 (of 5). Modok's
> origin is revealed as the Mental Organism Designed Only for Killing
> continues stalking former A.I.M. agents across Europe. Cap attempts to
> broker a cease-fire with Navy Intelligence. But, although the fate of the
> Anti-Cap appears to be resolved,

... after initial confusion where they thought he was talking to them
about Andy Capp.

the government refuses to drop criminal
> charges against The Falcon, which in turn pushes The Falcon to even more
> extreme measures. But, has he gone too far this time?

Depends if it's the second date or the third, I guess.

> {Now, like I said, I'm not all that knowledgable about comics, but I've seen
> MODOK before. Giant head, tiny little arms, legs and body. Surely you'd
> notice if THAT was stalking you?}

He's wearing different glasses. And pretending to read a newspaper.

> * Sabretooth #3 (Of 5) : Written by Daniel Way. Penciled by Bart Sears.
> Cover by Paolo Rivera.
> As Sasquatch embarks on a mission to capture or destroy Sabretooth,
> more mysterious questions are raised. Has Sabretooth slaughtered an entire
> town of innocent civilians? And if not, what mysterious agent has turned the
> desolate and isolated Isle Dupree into a graveyard?
> {And really, who gives a fig?}

"Huge, fuckin' howlin' things" would be my educated guess.

> * The Punisher #13 [MAX] : Written by Garth Ennis. Penciled by Dougie
> Braithwaite. Cover by Tim Bradstreet.

> {Should settle questions about whether the Max run is canon or not at least,
> depending on whether it's regular Nick Fury, or Cold War bastard Nick Fury
> from Ennis & Robertson's mini series from a few years ago. Can't help but
> hope it's the latter.}

I think Ennis said in a rare online interview that it's Cold War Bastard
Fury. Which almost makes it worth visiting the Marvel newsgroups to
watch the Fury fans start screaming.

> * Venom Vs Carnage #4 (Of 4) : Written by Peter Milligan. Art & Cover by
> Clayton Crain.
> It's a symbiote battle royale as Venom, Carnage and their new
> offspring - Toxin - go head-to-head in the teeth-shattering climax to this
> new arc.

"Toxin". Sounds like Milligan is scraping the bottom of the same
name-barrel that the X-Men writers have been using for the last decade
or so.

But can Spider-Man bring peace to these three family members before
> they destroy New York?!

Or before any of the other 500 superheroes who live in New York turn up
and blow the crap out of the symbiotes...

> {Nah, they'll probably just escape for a while, until someone else has the
> silly idea to use Carnage, the worst character ever.}

There has to be worse than him, surely...

Graeme
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"We may as well just play out our roles, then.
I'm the devil and you're the sinner. We both
know where we're going now."
(Hellblazer #83)

Graeme

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Nov 4, 2004, 7:43:20 PM11/4/04
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Jim Connick wrote:

> : * The Intimates #1 [Wildstorm] : Written by Joe Casey. Art by Giuseppe
> : Camuncoli, Sandra Hope and Jim Lee. Cover by Lee, Hope and Rian Hughes.

> [I'm cautoisly looking forward to this. Might be great, might be awful. I
> like Casey & Cammo enough to be hopeful.]

I don't think Casey's ever managed to achieve "awful" yet. Even his UXM
was a misfire rather than actually awful, so I'm expecting INTIMATES to
be at the higher end of the quality scale.

Of course I also thought Australia and America had more sense than to
re-elect Howard and Bush, so there you go...

> : * Red Razors TPB [2000AD] : Written by Mark Millar. Art by Steve Yeowell &
> : Nigel Dobbyn. Cover by Yeowell.
> : {Hrm, never read any of this, but I don't much like Mark Millar, and have
> : always been advised to avoid his 2000AD work in particular.}
> [I've read little bits & pieces. Can't say I was impressed.]

Youn obviously haven't read enough yet. Keep going until he makes the
same powerful impression of laziness and mediocrity that he's made on
the rest of us.

> : * Astonishing X-Men #6 : Written by Joss Whedon. Art & Cover by John
> : Cassaday.

> [I'm enjoying this, but I suspect I'd be liking it a whole lot less if John
> Cassaday & Laura Martin weren't on art & colours. I've got major issues with
> the pacing too. As far as we know, Whedon is now halfway through his tenure
> on the book, and he's moving at such a slow pace he's going to leave an
> awful lot unsresolved after his year on the title. File under pretty but
> uninspiring.]

I think I have one issue left on pre-order, after which I'll probably
drop back to reading a friend's copies and then deciding whether to get
the eventual trades. Or hardcover.

The more I think about it, the main reason I'm enjoying AXM is Emma.
And the pretty art, of course.

> : {Now, like I said, I'm not all that knowledgable about comics, but I've
> seen
> : MODOK before. Giant head, tiny little arms, legs and body. Surely you'd
> : notice if THAT was stalking you?}
> [Ah, that's what you think! Didn't I mention MODOK went to the Jim school of
> stalking? Just ask Graeme how unnerving it is.]

It's true. I'm afraid to go near the rac. newsgroups anymore because
everytime I turned around Jim was there (giant head, tiny little arms
and everything!) and seemed to know exactly what websites I'd been reading.

> : * The Punisher #13 [MAX] : Written by Garth Ennis. Penciled by Dougie
> : Braithwaite. Cover by Tim Bradstreet.
> [Can't wait till everyone gets what they deserve at the end of the arc.]

Just getting towards the end of "Kitchen Irish" now, and it's shaping up
to be a real "gets what they deserves" event. PUNISHER is probably one
of the few titles where you can be sure that everyone getting what they
deserve isn't just an empty promise.

> : Err, that's about it from me, since I don't have much of a scoob what I'm
> : doing here. I'll reply to anything I can, and Jimlad will probably be
> along
> : at some point too, quite likely mocking me for saying something dumb.
>
> Nah, you did fine. Better watch out, people might start noticing how easy
> this is...

Must be time for you to look at writing a regular column, then, as the
next step up. Now that you have support staff, and all.

Dee Cassidy

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Nov 8, 2004, 5:00:24 PM11/8/04
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Graeme wrote
: Errr... this is a little bit weird. You're not doing a Sc*j* on us are
: you, Jim?

Eww, no! Me am Bizarro Jim. Or something. But certainly not Jim in a dress.
Eww, unwanted mental image...

: > Sometimes these things need a feminine touch.


:
: And if there's one thing a bunch of comic-book reading makes likes, it's
: feminine touches. Hur hur.

:
Oh behave.

: > Aloha. I'm not Jim, as you possibly noticed.


:
: I don't know... I've never seen the two of you in the same room at the
: same time.

That's because he's so small you can't see him over the furniture.

: > The info is off the website, still put together by Jim, the comments are


: > mine, not put together by Jim. I know much less about comics, so don't
: > expect anything terribly in depth or well researched.
:
: Are you *sure* you're not Jim? :)

*snigger*

: > * Red Razors TPB [2000AD] : Written by Mark Millar. Art by Steve Yeowell


&
: > Nigel Dobbyn. Cover by Yeowell.
: > {Hrm, never read any of this, but I don't much like Mark Millar, and
have
: > always been advised to avoid his 2000AD work in particular.}
:
: This TPB contains good Millar/Razors (about 30-40 pages of it, I think)
: and the rest is all bad Millar/Razors. Not a particularly good or
: evenly-balanced collection, this one.

One to keep an eye out for copies going on the cheap somewhere down the line
then.

: > * Captain America & The Falcon #9 : Written by Christopher Priest.


Pencils &
: > Cover by Joe Bennett.

: > {Now, like I said, I'm not all that knowledgable about comics, but I've


seen
: > MODOK before. Giant head, tiny little arms, legs and body. Surely you'd
: > notice if THAT was stalking you?}
:
: He's wearing different glasses. And pretending to read a newspaper.

:
The sneaky bastard!

: > * The Punisher #13 [MAX] : Written by Garth Ennis. Penciled by Dougie


: > Braithwaite. Cover by Tim Bradstreet.
: > {Should settle questions about whether the Max run is canon or not at
least,
: > depending on whether it's regular Nick Fury, or Cold War bastard Nick
Fury
: > from Ennis & Robertson's mini series from a few years ago. Can't help
but
: > hope it's the latter.}
:
: I think Ennis said in a rare online interview that it's Cold War Bastard
: Fury. Which almost makes it worth visiting the Marvel newsgroups to
: watch the Fury fans start screaming.

Yay! I like Cold War bastard Nick Fury. Much better than David Hasslehof
Fury, which was on the Telly here t'other night.

: > {Nah, they'll probably just escape for a while, until someone else has


the
: > silly idea to use Carnage, the worst character ever.}
:
: There has to be worse than him, surely...

None that I can think of right away, nope.

Donna
Oh, and if anyone is looking for it, Toothwatch will be out on Tuesday night
again, assuming Jim gets the website done during the day.

Dee Cassidy

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Nov 8, 2004, 5:09:16 PM11/8/04
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Graeme wrote

: Jim Connick wrote:
:
: > : * The Intimates #1 [Wildstorm] : Written by Joe Casey. Art by Giuseppe
: > : Camuncoli, Sandra Hope and Jim Lee. Cover by Lee, Hope and Rian
Hughes.
: > [I'm cautoisly looking forward to this. Might be great, might be awful.
I
: > like Casey & Cammo enough to be hopeful.]
:
: I don't think Casey's ever managed to achieve "awful" yet. Even his UXM
: was a misfire rather than actually awful, so I'm expecting INTIMATES to
: be at the higher end of the quality scale.

I thought Automatic Kafka was pretty bad. Not quite awful though. The
impression I got from a flick through of The Intimates was that it was
trying too hard to be cool, if that keeps up I can see me starting to not
like it. That was only a flip through though, not a proper read.

: > : {Now, like I said, I'm not all that knowledgable about comics, but


I've
: > seen
: > : MODOK before. Giant head, tiny little arms, legs and body. Surely
you'd
: > : notice if THAT was stalking you?}
: > [Ah, that's what you think! Didn't I mention MODOK went to the Jim
school of
: > stalking? Just ask Graeme how unnerving it is.]
:
: It's true. I'm afraid to go near the rac. newsgroups anymore because
: everytime I turned around Jim was there (giant head, tiny little arms
: and everything!) and seemed to know exactly what websites I'd been
reading.

*snigger*
Odd mental image of the evening #2, Jim as Modok.

: > : * The Punisher #13 [MAX] : Written by Garth Ennis. Penciled by Dougie


: > : Braithwaite. Cover by Tim Bradstreet.
: > [Can't wait till everyone gets what they deserve at the end of the arc.]
:
: Just getting towards the end of "Kitchen Irish" now, and it's shaping up
: to be a real "gets what they deserves" event. PUNISHER is probably one
: of the few titles where you can be sure that everyone getting what they
: deserve isn't just an empty promise.
:

I've still got the last part to read, I think. I'll be quite happy if
everyone but Frank dies a painful and bloody death.

: Must be time for you to look at writing a regular column, then, as the


: next step up. Now that you have support staff, and all.

Ooh, good idea! Let's badger him into writing something else.

Jim Connick

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Nov 9, 2004, 11:53:55 AM11/9/04
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Dee Cassidy wrote
<snip lots of me being laughed at>
Yes, well, this experiment is going well, isn't it?

: : > * Captain America & The Falcon #9 : Written by Christopher Priest.


: Pencils &
: : > Cover by Joe Bennett.
: : > {Now, like I said, I'm not all that knowledgable about comics, but
I've
: seen
: : > MODOK before. Giant head, tiny little arms, legs and body. Surely
you'd
: : > notice if THAT was stalking you?}
: :
: : He's wearing different glasses. And pretending to read a newspaper.
: :
: The sneaky bastard!

As previously mentioned, he learned everything he knows at The Jim School Of
Stalking.
:
: : > * The Punisher #13 [MAX] : Written by Garth Ennis. Penciled by Dougie


: : > Braithwaite. Cover by Tim Bradstreet.

: : I think Ennis said in a rare online interview that it's Cold War Bastard


: : Fury. Which almost makes it worth visiting the Marvel newsgroups to
: : watch the Fury fans start screaming.
:
: Yay! I like Cold War bastard Nick Fury. Much better than David Hasslehof
: Fury, which was on the Telly here t'other night.

The Nick Fury TV movie still beats the shit out of the Justice League on,
that was just bloody awful.
:
: : > {Nah, they'll probably just escape for a while, until someone else has


: the
: : > silly idea to use Carnage, the worst character ever.}
: :
: : There has to be worse than him, surely...
:
: None that I can think of right away, nope.

Nah, there's definetly worse than Carnage. At least he serves a purpose,
which would be, er, causing Carnage...
:
: Donna


: Oh, and if anyone is looking for it, Toothwatch will be out on Tuesday
night
: again, assuming Jim gets the website done during the day.

Online now, ready when you are.

--
Jim
http://www.toothwatch.co.uk

Jim Connick

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Nov 9, 2004, 3:27:18 PM11/9/04
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Dee Cassidy wrote
: Graeme wrote

: : Jim Connick wrote:
: :
: : > : * The Intimates #1
: : I don't think Casey's ever managed to achieve "awful" yet. Even his UXM

: : was a misfire rather than actually awful, so I'm expecting INTIMATES to
: : be at the higher end of the quality scale.
:
: I thought Automatic Kafka was pretty bad.

I thought it varied wildly in quality. Parts of it were hillarious,
especially the last issue, where the main character questioned how they
could be cancelled, since they were superheros.

: : > : * The Punisher #13 [MAX] : Written by Garth Ennis. Penciled by


Dougie
: : > : Braithwaite. Cover by Tim Bradstreet.
: : > [Can't wait till everyone gets what they deserve at the end of the
arc.]
: :
: : Just getting towards the end of "Kitchen Irish" now, and it's shaping up
: : to be a real "gets what they deserves" event. PUNISHER is probably one
: : of the few titles where you can be sure that everyone getting what they
: : deserve isn't just an empty promise.
: :
: I've still got the last part to read, I think. I'll be quite happy if
: everyone but Frank dies a painful and bloody death.
:

Very true, the vast majority of people in the arc are especially unlikeable.

: : Must be time for you to look at writing a regular column, then, as the


: : next step up. Now that you have support staff, and all.
:
: Ooh, good idea! Let's badger him into writing something else.

Like what? Go on, inspire me.

--
Jim
http://www.toothwatch.co.uk

Graeme

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Nov 9, 2004, 6:36:37 PM11/9/04
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Dee Cassidy wrote:

> Eww, no! Me am Bizarro Jim. Or something. But certainly not Jim in a dress.
> Eww, unwanted mental image...

So you're familiar with the digital image of Jim in bunny ears, then?

> : And if there's one thing a bunch of comic-book reading makes likes, it's
> : feminine touches. Hur hur.
> :
> Oh behave.

They don't come any more haved than me.

> : I don't know... I've never seen the two of you in the same room at the
> : same time.
>
> That's because he's so small you can't see him over the furniture.

Jim "Wee Man" Connick...

> : > * Red Razors TPB [2000AD] : Written by Mark Millar. Art by Steve Yeowell
>

> One to keep an eye out for copies going on the cheap somewhere down the line
> then.

It would need to be a hell of a markdown before I'd look at buying it...

> Yay! I like Cold War bastard Nick Fury. Much better than David Hasslehof
> Fury, which was on the Telly here t'other night.

Fortunately these things (along with the Justice League one Jim
mentioned, but which I've never heard of) don't seem to make it to
Australia.

> : > {Nah, they'll probably just escape for a while, until someone else has
> the
> : > silly idea to use Carnage, the worst character ever.}
> :
> : There has to be worse than him, surely...
>
> None that I can think of right away, nope.

There was an X-Men villain called Vindaloo, I think. And there was
definitely called one called Mellencamp. Not really sure what either of
them did, except hang around in a group and look useless, and that
probably doesn't really qualify them for "worst character ever".

And Claremont has generated millions of nameless, pointless X-characters
over the last few years, but again I can't think of one that really
qualifies as "worst"... except, I have it, Lifeguard!

The mutant daughter of an Australian crimelord who worked as a lifeguard
before being rescued/pressganged by the X-Treme X-Men, had the mutant
ability to produce whatever plot-device power was needed for the X-Men
to win, and ultimately mutated herself into a gold-skinned alien
bird-thingy because she was apparently secretly descended from
gold-skinned alien bird-thingy royalty.

And I'm sure there's an abundance of worse characters still lurking in
the early Image years.

Graeme

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Nov 9, 2004, 6:44:54 PM11/9/04
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Dee Cassidy wrote:

> : I don't think Casey's ever managed to achieve "awful" yet. Even his UXM
> : was a misfire rather than actually awful, so I'm expecting INTIMATES to
> : be at the higher end of the quality scale.
>
> I thought Automatic Kafka was pretty bad. Not quite awful though.

Hmm. Never actually read that one - the partial Ashley Wood art was too
strong a deterrent. Despite that, I have an opinion on AK anyway -
Casey's biggest weakness is that sometimes his execution falls short of
his intention.

The
> impression I got from a flick through of The Intimates was that it was
> trying too hard to be cool, if that keeps up I can see me starting to not
> like it. That was only a flip through though, not a proper read.

I've seen similar criticisms elsewhere online. Hopefully it's something
Casey will ease out of quickly.

> Odd mental image of the evening #2, Jim as Modok.

With bunny ears.

> : > : * The Punisher #13 [MAX] : Written by Garth Ennis. Penciled by Dougie
> :

> I've still got the last part to read, I think. I'll be quite happy if
> everyone but Frank dies a painful and bloody death.

That's the sign of a good Punisher story. When you want *everyone*
dead, including Frank, you know the writer's doing something wrong.

> : Must be time for you to look at writing a regular column, then, as the
> : next step up. Now that you have support staff, and all.
>
> Ooh, good idea! Let's badger him into writing something else.

Any suggestions?

Graeme

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Nov 9, 2004, 6:53:47 PM11/9/04
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Jim Connick wrote:

> <snip lots of me being laughed at>
> Yes, well, this experiment is going well, isn't it?

Right up there with the beta versions of Dolly the Sheep, I'd say.

> As previously mentioned, he learned everything he knows at The Jim School Of
> Stalking.

If you haven't heard about The Jim School of Stalking, that just goes to
show you how good it is.

> The Nick Fury TV movie still beats the shit out of the Justice League on,
> that was just bloody awful.

I'd never even heard of that before now. Must search IMDB for details...

> : : There has to be worse than him, surely...
> :
> : None that I can think of right away, nope.
>
> Nah, there's definetly worse than Carnage. At least he serves a purpose,
> which would be, er, causing Carnage...

As opposed to serving people hot curries (there are worse explanations
for Vindaloo's codename, but I don't want to explore them) or singing
mid-west country rock at them.

Graeme

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Nov 9, 2004, 7:02:03 PM11/9/04
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Jim Connick wrote:

> : I thought Automatic Kafka was pretty bad.
>
> I thought it varied wildly in quality. Parts of it were hillarious,
> especially the last issue, where the main character questioned how they
> could be cancelled, since they were superheros.

See comment elsewhere about Casey's concept exceding his execution. I
think it's a good thing, though, that he keeps stretching himself
creatively like that.

> : : > : * The Punisher #13 [MAX] : Written by Garth Ennis. Penciled by

> :
> Very true, the vast majority of people in the arc are especially unlikeable.

I find it hard to actively dislike Finn. He's reached that level of
evil but slightly-incompetent bastardry I'd like to see a bit more of
him. He could almost be the Herr Starr of PUNISHER.

> : : Must be time for you to look at writing a regular column, then, as the
> : : next step up. Now that you have support staff, and all.
> :
> : Ooh, good idea! Let's badger him into writing something else.
>
> Like what? Go on, inspire me.

Well once upon a time I was thinking of seeing if you felt like doing a
collaborative column on what's coming out each week where we witter on
about what we like and make random in-jokes that no-one will understand.
Sort of like what we already do here, but more formal...

Then apathy and work-horror attacked me and I forgot.

retrovium

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Nov 10, 2004, 6:27:08 AM11/10/04
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From out of the void, Graeme whispered:

> Dee Cassidy wrote:
>
>> Eww, no! Me am Bizarro Jim. Or something. But certainly not Jim in a
>> dress.
>> Eww, unwanted mental image...
>
>
> So you're familiar with the digital image of Jim in bunny ears, then?

Oh, damn you, *gets another drink* they were pink weren't they? *makes
it a double*...

retrovium

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Nov 10, 2004, 6:32:41 AM11/10/04
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From out of the void, Jim Connick whispered:

> Dee Cassidy wrote
> <snip lots of me being laughed at>
> Yes, well, this experiment is going well, isn't it?

Hey, if you don't experiment you won't end up with desert mutant
creatures who eat icecream out of hats.

Jim Connick

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Nov 10, 2004, 1:46:24 PM11/10/04
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retrovium wrote
: > So you're familiar with the digital image of Jim in bunny ears, then?

:
: Oh, damn you, *gets another drink* they were pink weren't they? *makes
: it a double*...

Not just pink, but pink with purple sparkly bits!
When being foolish enough to photograph yourself wearing bunny ears, and
sharing the evidence, you may as well go all out for the campest pair you
can find.

Jim Connick

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Nov 10, 2004, 2:00:03 PM11/10/04
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Graeme wrote
: > Yay! I like Cold War bastard Nick Fury. Much better than David Hasslehof

: > Fury, which was on the Telly here t'other night.
:
: Fortunately these things (along with the Justice League one Jim
: mentioned, but which I've never heard of) don't seem to make it to
: Australia.
:
Lucky bastard. I'm always oddly compelled to watch these things when they
are on telly. They never fail to live up to my expectations. Of course,
since I expect them to be crap, that's easy enough. The Generation X one
scores extra points for Banshee's fucking horrible accent.

: There was an X-Men villain called Vindaloo, I think. And there was


: definitely called one called Mellencamp. Not really sure what either of
: them did, except hang around in a group and look useless, and that
: probably doesn't really qualify them for "worst character ever".

:
Memebers of the Acolytes. Mellencamp I remember, Vindaloo I had to look up
to check you didn't just make him up.

: And Claremont has generated millions of nameless, pointless X-characters


: over the last few years, but again I can't think of one that really
: qualifies as "worst"... except, I have it, Lifeguard!

:
It's a tough call who is worse, her and her ever so handy Dues Ex Machina
mutation, or her brother and his fucking surfboard.

Jim Connick

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Nov 10, 2004, 2:06:47 PM11/10/04
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Graeme wrote
: > The Nick Fury TV movie still beats the shit out of the Justice League

on,
: > that was just bloody awful.
:
: I'd never even heard of that before now. Must search IMDB for details...
:
It's the perfect example of why in film versions, costumes shouldn't be
spandex. David Ogden Steirs as J'onn J'onz is a sight that will scar me for
life too. Especially the beergut...

: As opposed to serving people hot curries (there are worse explanations
: for Vindaloo's codename,

Ability to emit a gel-like liquid and ignite it into a fiery stream of
napalm, apparently. Surely his name should be Post Vindaloo?
The name makes me feel like he'd have been perfectly at home somewhere in
X-Force/X-Statix though.

Jim Connick

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Nov 10, 2004, 2:09:53 PM11/10/04
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Graeme wrote

: Jim Connick wrote:
:
: > : I thought Automatic Kafka was pretty bad.
: >
: > I thought it varied wildly in quality. Parts of it were hillarious,
: > especially the last issue, where the main character questioned how they
: > could be cancelled, since they were superheros.
:
: See comment elsewhere about Casey's concept exceding his execution. I
: think it's a good thing, though, that he keeps stretching himself
: creatively like that.

Of course, in retrospect his run on Uncanny looks like a work of genius,
compared to what followed.

: > : : Must be time for you to look at writing a regular column, then, as


the
: > : : next step up. Now that you have support staff, and all.
: > :
: > : Ooh, good idea! Let's badger him into writing something else.
: >
: > Like what? Go on, inspire me.
:
: Well once upon a time I was thinking of seeing if you felt like doing a
: collaborative column on what's coming out each week where we witter on
: about what we like and make random in-jokes that no-one will understand.
: Sort of like what we already do here, but more formal...

Hmm, so I have to wear a suit or something? Or expensive bunny ears?
It might save us monopolising the NG for a few days each week, at least.

Graeme

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Nov 10, 2004, 6:56:35 PM11/10/04
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retrovium wrote:

>> So you're familiar with the digital image of Jim in bunny ears, then?
>
> Oh, damn you, *gets another drink* they were pink weren't they? *makes
> it a double*...

Believe so. I only have vague memories of the image these days, other
than Jim looking a little bleary.

Graeme

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Nov 10, 2004, 7:04:37 PM11/10/04
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Jim Connick wrote:

> Lucky bastard. I'm always oddly compelled to watch these things when they
> are on telly. They never fail to live up to my expectations. Of course,
> since I expect them to be crap, that's easy enough. The Generation X one
> scores extra points for Banshee's fucking horrible accent.

GenX is one of the few I'd be interested in watching, despite knowing it
would be abominable. The Emma factor again...

> : There was an X-Men villain called Vindaloo, I think. And there was
> : definitely called one called Mellencamp. Not really sure what either of
> : them did, except hang around in a group and look useless, and that
> : probably doesn't really qualify them for "worst character ever".
> :
> Memebers of the Acolytes. Mellencamp I remember, Vindaloo I had to look up
> to check you didn't just make him up.

And did I? I wasn't buying the X-books at the time, just reading a
friend's copies and mocking him for spending money on them.

> : And Claremont has generated millions of nameless, pointless X-characters
> : over the last few years, but again I can't think of one that really
> : qualifies as "worst"... except, I have it, Lifeguard!
> :
> It's a tough call who is worse, her and her ever so handy Dues Ex Machina
> mutation, or her brother and his fucking surfboard.

Heh. I never read the end of that arc (it did end, didn't it? I seem
to recall even diehard Claremont fans complaining that it ran forever),
so I missed out on The Fleshy Surfer.

Graeme

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Nov 10, 2004, 7:11:36 PM11/10/04
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Jim Connick wrote:

> : I'd never even heard of that before now. Must search IMDB for details...
> :
> It's the perfect example of why in film versions, costumes shouldn't be
> spandex. David Ogden Steirs as J'onn J'onz is a sight that will scar me for
> life too. Especially the beergut...

Oh my god. Now I *have* to see this, if only to see how it compares to
him being dressed up as giant squash in "Doc Hollywood".

> : As opposed to serving people hot curries (there are worse explanations
> : for Vindaloo's codename,
>
> Ability to emit a gel-like liquid and ignite it into a fiery stream of
> napalm, apparently.

ROFLMAO. Oh, that's just brilliant! How did that one ever get past
Marvel editorial?

> Surely his name should be Post Vindaloo?

Possibly depends where he was emitting his stream of burning liquid from...

> The name makes me feel like he'd have been perfectly at home somewhere in
> X-Force/X-Statix though.

He deserves a home somewhere. I wonder if FabNic could work him into
CABLE/DEADPOOL someplace? He'd certainly have been a good fit for AGENT X.

Graeme

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Nov 10, 2004, 7:28:10 PM11/10/04
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Jim Connick wrote:

> Of course, in retrospect his run on Uncanny looks like a work of genius,
> compared to what followed.

You have a problem with the disintegrating communion wafers of doom, and
the plot by the Catholic-priest-abused ex-nun anti-pope who was
mind-controlling Nightcrawler to become a priest so he could become the
real pope and could then be revealed as a demon, thereby discrediting
the Catholic Church worldwide?

Actually that was probably Austen's creative peak...

> : Well once upon a time I was thinking of seeing if you felt like doing a
> : collaborative column on what's coming out each week where we witter on
> : about what we like and make random in-jokes that no-one will understand.
> : Sort of like what we already do here, but more formal...
>
> Hmm, so I have to wear a suit or something? Or expensive bunny ears?

White bunny ears, black bowtie. Any further resemblance to a Playboy
Bunny is unfortunate and coincidental.

> It might save us monopolising the NG for a few days each week, at least.

But then people would be left with nothing to read but S*o*o.

Jim Connick

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Nov 13, 2004, 3:11:28 PM11/13/04
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Graeme wrote
: Jim Connick wrote:
: > : As opposed to serving people hot curries (there are worse explanations

: > : for Vindaloo's codename,
: >
: > Ability to emit a gel-like liquid and ignite it into a fiery stream of
: > napalm, apparently.
:
: ROFLMAO. Oh, that's just brilliant! How did that one ever get past
: Marvel editorial?

Probably the same way that Pete Wisdom's "hot knives" did, no one understood
the reference.
He first appearance was written by Fabien Nicieza & Alan Davis, who would
certainly have known what they were doing :)

Jim Connick

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Nov 13, 2004, 3:15:09 PM11/13/04
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Graeme wrote

: Jim Connick wrote:
:
: > Of course, in retrospect his run on Uncanny looks like a work of genius,
: > compared to what followed.
:
: You have a problem with the disintegrating communion wafers of doom, and
: the plot by the Catholic-priest-abused ex-nun anti-pope who was
: mind-controlling Nightcrawler to become a priest so he could become the
: real pope and could then be revealed as a demon, thereby discrediting
: the Catholic Church worldwide?

Well, when you put it like that...

: Actually that was probably Austen's creative peak...
:
Just when we all though Casey's Church Of Humanity was bad enough...

: > : Well once upon a time I was thinking of seeing if you felt like doing


a
: > : collaborative column on what's coming out each week where we witter on
: > : about what we like and make random in-jokes that no-one will
understand.
: > : Sort of like what we already do here, but more formal...
: >
: > Hmm, so I have to wear a suit or something? Or expensive bunny ears?
:
: White bunny ears, black bowtie. Any further resemblance to a Playboy
: Bunny is unfortunate and coincidental.

:
Nah, the whole Bunny get up is Zoe's gig, wouldn't want to infringe.

: > It might save us monopolising the NG for a few days each week, at least.


:
: But then people would be left with nothing to read but S*o*o.

What a horrible though. All this time, I never realised how valuable a
service we provide!

Dee Cassidy

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Nov 14, 2004, 11:58:20 AM11/14/04
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Graeme wrote

: Dee Cassidy wrote:
:
: > Eww, no! Me am Bizarro Jim. Or something. But certainly not Jim in a
dress.
: > Eww, unwanted mental image...
:
: So you're familiar with the digital image of Jim in bunny ears, then?
:
I'm unfamiliar with the picture, but I've seen the actual bunny ears in
question.

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