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david...@my-deja.com

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New Thrills coming to 2000 AD

Badlands, a creator-owned serial by Dan Abnett and Kevin Walker. This is
a revised version (with lotsa unseen and new art) of a story originally
published by Atomika/Tundra as Skin of the Hadrosaurs - begins in Prog
1178, on sale Wednesday, February 2nd.

Colin MacNeil returns to the House of Tharg for the first time in four
years, drawing a three-part arc in the current Missionary Man story - in
Prog 1178. Colin is also in discussions to draw a new Robbie Morrison
story, Vanguard.

Colin Wilson has a two-part Dredd story (published in Progs 1178-1179),
and is now co-creating an all-new Thrill called Raindogs with Gordon
Rennie, to see print later this year. Wilson also has a 224-page Tex
annual due from Bonelli this Autumn.

A great British artist who rarely gets the acclaim he deserves is John
Burns. He has painted Book One of the five-book Nikolai Dante: Tsar War
saga for 2000 AD (starts in Prog 1183, with a wraparound cover by John
Burns) and is already painting Book Three. Simon Fraser is drawing Book
Two, after he finishes a three-part Dredd yarn.

Slaine returns in March with a 17-part serial, The Secret Commonwealth.
Forget all that time traveller with an axe mullarkey, this is old-school
Celtic action as Slaine returns home to find the land soured by an evil
enemy. Creators on this one are Pat Mills and David Bircham.

Also in the works: scribe Steve Moore returns to 2000 AD after nearly
two decades away on the Fortean Times. He is developing an all-new
Thrill provisionally entitled Red Fang, and has brought his beloved
Telguth project to the House of Tharg. For those who don't know, Steve
is the creator of beloved Warrior antihero Axel Pressbutton...

ABC Warrior Deadlock gets his own solo series this Summer by Pat Mills
and Henry Flint. Flint grabbed the attention of many 2000 AD readers
with his old school "more Kev O'Neill than Kev O'Neill" art on the final
book of Nemesis. Expect more mindbending visuals with letratone a-go-go.

Later this year or early 2001: Button Man III, by Wagner/Ranson.

Cam Kennedy returns to Dredd in Progs 1183-1185, the return of the
Banzai Battalion. Prog 1183 also reveals a new logo on the cover,
although elements of it may seem familiar...

Artists coming soon to Missionary Man: The Promised Land - Simon Davis
and Dean Ormston...

Strontium Dog: The Kreeler Conspiracy takes a break after part 8 in Prog
1180. Family bereavements and other factors forced this unfortunate
split in the story. Johnny Alpha will be back in May for the final five
episodes of this very well received gem...

That enough news for y'all to chew over


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Simon Fraser

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:03:35 GMT, david...@my-deja.com wrote:

>New Thrills coming to 2000 AD

x


>
>Colin MacNeil returns to the House of Tharg for the first time in four
>years, drawing a three-part arc in the current Missionary Man story - in
>Prog 1178. Colin is also in discussions to draw a new Robbie Morrison
>story, Vanguard.

This one looks like it could be good folks.
Good to see Colin back again

>
>A great British artist who rarely gets the acclaim he deserves is John
>Burns. He has painted Book One of the five-book Nikolai Dante: Tsar War
>saga for 2000 AD (starts in Prog 1183, with a wraparound cover by John
>Burns) and is already painting Book Three. Simon Fraser is drawing Book
>Two, after he finishes a three-part Dredd yarn.

I'll vouch for Mr Burns' extremely lovely first book of the war. The
expression 'Follow that!' springs to mind...

>
>Also in the works: scribe Steve Moore returns to 2000 AD after nearly
>two decades away on the Fortean Times. He is developing an all-new
>Thrill provisionally entitled Red Fang, and has brought his beloved
>Telguth project to the House of Tharg. For those who don't know, Steve
>is the creator of beloved Warrior antihero Axel Pressbutton...

Very good news.
Who owns Pressbutton by the way? Does anyone know?
Has anyone seen Steve Moore and Pedro Henry in the same room
together...thought not.


>
>ABC Warrior Deadlock gets his own solo series this Summer by Pat Mills
>and Henry Flint. Flint grabbed the attention of many 2000 AD readers
>with his old school "more Kev O'Neill than Kev O'Neill" art on the final
>book of Nemesis. Expect more mindbending visuals with letratone a-go-go.

They'll be wheeling poor Henry out in a basket this time next year.
Masochism or what!

Anyway

Simon F.


The Semi-Official Nikolai Dante Website
http://www.simonfraser.net

Robin Low

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Jan 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/28/00
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In article <86s435$2n4$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, david...@my-deja.com writes

>New Thrills coming to 2000 AD
>
>Badlands, a creator-owned serial by Dan Abnett and Kevin Walker. This is
>a revised version (with lotsa unseen and new art) of a story originally
>published by Atomika/Tundra as Skin of the Hadrosaurs - begins in Prog
>1178, on sale Wednesday, February 2nd.

I have that, originally published in the Carnosaur Carnage anthology.
Something of a treat for those who haven't seen it - a pretty good
script from Abnett and the best painted art from Walker that I can
remember ever seeing. I look forward to this expanded version.

>
>Colin MacNeil returns to the House of Tharg for the first time in four
>years, drawing a three-part arc in the current Missionary Man story - in
>Prog 1178.

Looking forward to this. MacNeil's currently doing some fantastic art
for Gorden Rennie's Bloodquest in Warhammer.

>Colin is also in discussions to draw a new Robbie Morrison
>story, Vanguard.

If Morrison can continue the standard he's set with Dante, this should
be something to look forward to. Any more information?

>
>Colin Wilson has a two-part Dredd story (published in Progs 1178-1179),
>and is now co-creating an all-new Thrill called Raindogs with Gordon
>Rennie, to see print later this year.

More good news.

>Wilson also has a 224-page Tex
>annual due from Bonelli this Autumn.

Tex?

>
>A great British artist who rarely gets the acclaim he deserves is John
>Burns. He has painted Book One of the five-book Nikolai Dante: Tsar War
>saga for 2000 AD (starts in Prog 1183, with a wraparound cover by John
>Burns) and is already painting Book Three.

On the basis of he previous excursions on Dante, this will be a pleasure
to read.

Five books? Fucking hell!

>Simon Fraser is drawing Book
>Two, after he finishes a three-part Dredd yarn.

Two artists alternately doing a whole series seems like an effective way
of maintaining momentum. It'll look a whole lot better, too, making any
collections far more visually appealing.

>
>Slaine returns in March with a 17-part serial, The Secret Commonwealth.
>Forget all that time traveller with an axe mullarkey, this is old-school
>Celtic action as Slaine returns home to find the land soured by an evil
>enemy. Creators on this one are Pat Mills and David Bircham.

I think most us will reserve judgement.

>
>Also in the works: scribe Steve Moore returns to 2000 AD after nearly
>two decades away on the Fortean Times. He is developing an all-new
>Thrill provisionally entitled Red Fang, and has brought his beloved
>Telguth project to the House of Tharg. For those who don't know, Steve
>is the creator of beloved Warrior antihero Axel Pressbutton...

This all sounds very interesting. Any more information? Any chance of
seeing Pressbutton again?

>
>ABC Warrior Deadlock gets his own solo series this Summer by Pat Mills
>and Henry Flint. Flint grabbed the attention of many 2000 AD readers
>with his old school "more Kev O'Neill than Kev O'Neill" art on the final
>book of Nemesis. Expect more mindbending visuals with letratone a-go-go.

Again, I'll reserve judgement.


>
>Later this year or early 2001: Button Man III, by Wagner/Ranson.

Yippee!


>
>Cam Kennedy returns to Dredd in Progs 1183-1185, the return of the
>Banzai Battalion.

Yippee!

>Prog 1183 also reveals a new logo on the cover,
>although elements of it may seem familiar...

Hope it's something to please the sad old nostalgia freaks. The old
'inflated' version always looked more, well, more *fun*. The subsequent
ones have always looked like boring corporate logos to me.

>
>Artists coming soon to Missionary Man: The Promised Land -

>Simon Davis

Boooo!

>and Dean Ormston...

Hurrah! Or, okay... he's a bit variable... but on the whole I think he
does dark and mysterious Cursed Earth pretty well.

>
>Strontium Dog: The Kreeler Conspiracy takes a break after part 8 in Prog
>1180. Family bereavements and other factors forced this unfortunate
>split in the story. Johnny Alpha will be back in May for the final five
>episodes of this very well received gem...

Shame, but I'm old enough to be patient.


All in all, a very exciting collection of news.

Regards

Robin
--
Robin Low

Simon Fraser

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:47:01 +0000, Robin Low
<ro...@celephais.demon.co.uk> wrote:

x


>
>>Wilson also has a 224-page Tex
>>annual due from Bonelli this Autumn.
>
>Tex?

A very popular western character, Tex Willer has been going for about
40 years or more in Italy. The chances of seeing it in English will be
small, but I reckon the book might be worth having just for the art
alone.

>
>>
>>A great British artist who rarely gets the acclaim he deserves is John
>>Burns. He has painted Book One of the five-book Nikolai Dante: Tsar War
>>saga for 2000 AD (starts in Prog 1183, with a wraparound cover by John
>>Burns) and is already painting Book Three.
>
>On the basis of he previous excursions on Dante, this will be a pleasure
>to read.
>
>Five books? Fucking hell!

That's what I said!

LDYS

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Jan 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/28/00
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Cripes! Are you on the payroll or what? :o)

Seriously, that lineup is looking very good.

Pleased to note that Dante is returning significantly earlier than the
Autumn 2000 date printed in Comics International a couple of months ago.

Even more pleased that John Burns is drawing it - his tryout issues last
year were lush! If Simon and John are going to be a tag team for the
foreseeable future, I couldn't be happier.

James

arfuh

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> >Artists coming soon to Missionary Man: The Promised Land -
> >Simon Davis
> Boooo!

Oi. Don't knock 'im. Despite the tendency to paint just faces, he does
it remarkably well. And he is also the definitive artist for Sinister
Dexter.


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John Parkinson

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Feb 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/1/00
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In article <86s435$2n4$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, david...@my-deja.com says...

>
>New Thrills coming to 2000 AD
>
>Slaine returns in March with a 17-part serial, The Secret Commonwealth.
>Forget all that time traveller with an axe mullarkey, this is old-school
>Celtic action as Slaine returns home to find the land soured by an evil
>enemy. Creators on this one are Pat Mills and David Bircham.

17 parts! *groan*
Well, hopefully it's better than the last 5 years or so of Slaine have been.
Could hardly be worse.

>Also in the works: scribe Steve Moore returns to 2000 AD after nearly
>two decades away on the Fortean Times. He is developing an all-new
>Thrill provisionally entitled Red Fang, and has brought his beloved
>Telguth project to the House of Tharg. For those who don't know, Steve
>is the creator of beloved Warrior antihero Axel Pressbutton...

You know I was sure that Pedro Henry created Pressbutton... ;-)

And Steve's much more famous for creating Absolm Daak...

>ABC Warrior Deadlock gets his own solo series this Summer by Pat Mills
>and Henry Flint. Flint grabbed the attention of many 2000 AD readers
>with his old school "more Kev O'Neill than Kev O'Neill" art on the final
>book of Nemesis. Expect more mindbending visuals with letratone a-go-go.

Now this Mills I will look forward to.

>Artists coming soon to Missionary Man: The Promised Land - Simon Davis

Oh dear.

>and Dean Ormston...

*phew* Ormston might just be enough cancel out the Davis-crapness.
If he's on Young Death form as opposed to the stuff he's done for DC more
recently.

JP


Grant Goggans

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On Tue, 01 Feb 2000 00:22:37 GMT, j...@destiny.org.uk (John Parkinson)
wrote:

>In article <86s435$2n4$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, david...@my-deja.com says...
>>

>>Slaine returns in March with a 17-part serial, The Secret Commonwealth.
>>Forget all that time traveller with an axe mullarkey, this is old-school
>>Celtic action as Slaine returns home to find the land soured by an evil
>>enemy. Creators on this one are Pat Mills and David Bircham.
>
>17 parts! *groan*
>Well, hopefully it's better than the last 5 years or so of Slaine have been.
>Could hardly be worse.

I dunno... Bircham's drawing it. He doesn't get the stick so much
since his work is so uncommon, but I really don't like his work at
all...

I mean, 6 weeks of him doing Sinister Dexter was interminable. Four
months of this might be sheer Hell. Sorta like Logan's world should
Siku and Blythe draw a 17-part Dredd adventure...
--
happily ever after,
Grant

"http://ggoggans.home.mindspring.com/cx.html"

Patrick Brown

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In article <hHpl4.502$pob.18...@newsa.telia.net>,
j...@destiny.org.uk (John Parkinson) wrote:

>
>>and Dean Ormston...
>
>*phew* Ormston might just be enough cancel out the Davis-
crapness.
>If he's on Young Death form as opposed to the stuff he's done
for DC more
>recently.

Peter Doherty did Young Death, IIRC.

Patrick

Patrick Brown

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In article <38964a45...@news.mindspring.com>,
gmsl...@yahoo.com (Grant Goggans) wrote:

>I dunno... Bircham's drawing it. He doesn't get the stick so
much
>since his work is so uncommon, but I really don't like his work
at
>all...

I think there's too much of this sort of ad hominem stuff going
on (this one isn't especially bad, but I think it's about time I
said something). Bircham has had how many pages of comics
published - one 6-part Sinister Dexter story, perfectly
competent as far as I could see, anything else? - and already
you're writing off anything he might do in the future. That's
not fair, and it can't be good for the poor sod's ego. The same
goes for the inordinate screeching that goes off every time
Siku's name is brought up. As it happens I'm not fond of Siku's
work myself (I think it lacks clarity), but the guy's a human
being. If you're going to criticise, try and keep it reasonable
and polite.

Besides, when you're talking about an artist with so little work
published, you've got to expect him to grow and develop. When I
first saw Andy Clark's work, I thought "don't like it - *way*
too many lines", but he ended up drawing The Hunting Party, IMO
the best-looking Dante story not drawn by Simon Fraser so far.
Or have you compared "Rough Guide to Suicide" to what Greg
Staples is capable of these days? Give Bircham a chance.

Grant Goggans

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On Tue, 01 Feb 2000 12:32:13 -0800, Patrick Brown
<patrickbrow...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>I think there's too much of this sort of ad hominem stuff going
>on (this one isn't especially bad, but I think it's about time I
>said something). Bircham has had how many pages of comics
>published - one 6-part Sinister Dexter story, perfectly
>competent as far as I could see, anything else? -

I disagree totally that "Smoke and Mirrors" was at all competent. He
also did 3 episodes of Dredd during the last Hotdog Run story a few
years ago, which were some of the worst-looking Dredd pages ever
published.

> and already
>you're writing off anything he might do in the future. That's
>not fair, and it can't be good for the poor sod's ego.

Now, hang on...exactly how many pages must we see before I can start
cringing that I don't want to see more? I'm sure he's a great guy,
and he's a better artist than me, but that's not the issue. 2000 AD
should be employing artists far better than either myself or Bircham.

And yeah, I'd like to think, as a self-publisher, I'm qualified to
look at work objectively. I've taken on a pair of artists to draw 4
episodes of my strip The GMS Legion for this summer because I can see
they're better artists than me. I've turned down a couple who are
worse than me. (On an offtopic brag, I started scripting the 100th
episode of my series today. Wheeeeeee!)

> The same
>goes for the inordinate screeching that goes off every time
>Siku's name is brought up. As it happens I'm not fond of Siku's
>work myself (I think it lacks clarity), but the guy's a human
>being. If you're going to criticise, try and keep it reasonable
>and polite.

Seconded.


>
>Besides, when you're talking about an artist with so little work
>published, you've got to expect him to grow and develop. When I
>first saw Andy Clark's work, I thought "don't like it - *way*
>too many lines", but he ended up drawing The Hunting Party, IMO
>the best-looking Dante story not drawn by Simon Fraser so far.
>Or have you compared "Rough Guide to Suicide" to what Greg
>Staples is capable of these days? Give Bircham a chance.

The difference is we could still spot the seeds of what was to come in
both these artists' early work. The Dredd episodes that Staples drew
eight years ago were still interesting and original. They're not as
good as what he does now (well, actually, Rough Guide and Babes in
Arms are far better than that Hershey cover...) but still good stuff.

When Bircham turns out something even close to the quality of Babes in
Arms, then I'll stand corrected and look forward to more of his
things.

William Logan

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On Tue, 01 Feb 2000 12:32:13 -0800, Patrick Brown
<patrickbrow...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> wrote:

>I think there's too much of this sort of ad hominem stuff going
>on (this one isn't especially bad, but I think it's about time I
>said something). Bircham has had how many pages of comics
>published - one 6-part Sinister Dexter story, perfectly

>competent as far as I could see, anything else? - and already


>you're writing off anything he might do in the future. That's

>not fair, and it can't be good for the poor sod's ego. The same


>goes for the inordinate screeching that goes off every time
>Siku's name is brought up. As it happens I'm not fond of Siku's
>work myself (I think it lacks clarity), but the guy's a human
>being. If you're going to criticise, try and keep it reasonable
>and polite.

As much as I hate Siku's work I only ever criticise his work and never
get personal. In my opinion he just hasn't got what it takes for
2000AD.

>Besides, when you're talking about an artist with so little work
>published, you've got to expect him to grow and develop. When I
>first saw Andy Clark's work, I thought "don't like it - *way*
>too many lines", but he ended up drawing The Hunting Party, IMO
>the best-looking Dante story not drawn by Simon Fraser so far.
>Or have you compared "Rough Guide to Suicide" to what Greg
>Staples is capable of these days? Give Bircham a chance.

The fact that he has had so little work published in 2000 is exactly
why we should be moaning, once again in my opinion his Sin/Dex artwork
wasn't upto the standard I'd expect from someone wanting a regular art
spot in TGGC. A few more future Shocks or Pulp Sci Fi's and I may have
changed my mind as I saw his work develop, but to then get given a
Slaine story of such length when it is touted as the story that will
return Slaine to his spot as one of Thargs best is to me foolhardy.
I hope I'm proved wrong, I'd love to write in the future that I love
the latest Slaine story and the artwork is superb, but based on what
artwork we've already seen from David Bircham, I don't expect it to
be.
Top stories should be done by top art droids and new artists should
work there way up. It seems that now a days you get 6 pages printed on
a pulp sci fi story and your ready for a 26 episode Dredd epic.

La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.

LDYS

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Feb 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/4/00
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In article <lhPUwBA1...@celephais.demon.co.uk>,
ro...@celephais.demon.co.uk (Robin Low) wrote:

> >Badlands, a creator-owned serial by Dan Abnett and Kevin Walker. This
is
> >a revised version (with lotsa unseen and new art) of a story originally
> >published by Atomika/Tundra as Skin of the Hadrosaurs - begins in Prog
> >1178, on sale Wednesday, February 2nd.

"lotsa" unseen and new art? I dug up my old copy of Carnosaur Carnage
yesterday, and all but one of the pages is reprint (and the last frame on
the last page is a blow up of a frame on page 2).

So far, the only new art looks like a framing sequence. Will there be any
substantial story after the end of "Skin of the Hadrosaurs"? A sequel
perhaps?

James

retro grrrl

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> New Thrills coming to 2000 AD
> Strontium Dog: The Kreeler Conspiracy takes a break after part 8 in Prog
> 1180. Family bereavements and other factors forced this unfortunate
> split in the story. Johnny Alpha will be back in May for the final five
> episodes of this very well received gem...

I'm not surprised there was a split, he had to throw a timeslip grenade at
his dad. 7:^)

no disrespect intended, only a opportunity for a cheap jibe. or is that too
anti-pc?


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