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erithromycin

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Jun 1, 2002, 9:19:55 AM6/1/02
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What do people think of the current setup?

We've got a Dredd 'epic' in 'Sin City, and he's appearing again
[occasionally, anyway] in the Anderson enriched Judge Death strip [whose
name I temporarily forget]. Too much MC1 in one issue? Too much judgery?
What do people think of them?

Or would that be off-topic?
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erith - who used to post here years ago as jimbob


Graeme

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Jun 1, 2002, 8:38:04 PM6/1/02
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"erithromycin" <erithr...@ananzi.co.za> wrote in
news:3cf9366e$0$1598$afc3...@news.ukonline.co.uk:

> We've got a Dredd 'epic' in 'Sin City, and he's appearing again
> [occasionally, anyway] in the Anderson enriched Judge Death strip
> [whose name I temporarily forget]. Too much MC1 in one issue? Too much
> judgery? What do people think of them?

I'm enjoying them both, but "Sin City" moreso than "My Name Is Death".
I like the "Pit" vibe that "Sin City" gives off, as well as the feel
that the plots on a slow burn towards an impressive conclusion.

My opinion of "Death" is still a little marred by the "will no-one think
of the children?" mis-step, which is certainly appropriate for Anderson
but not for hardened street judges. But that's my problem rather than
the story's itself, and it's good to see Death finally using his undead
brain to deal with his opponents instead of relying on megadeath
solutions from the outset.

Graeme
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Jim Campbell

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Jun 2, 2002, 5:53:36 AM6/2/02
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in article 3cf9366e$0$1598$afc3...@news.ukonline.co.uk, erithromycin at
erithr...@ananzi.co.za wrote on 1/6/02 2:19 pm:

> We've got a Dredd 'epic' in 'Sin City, and he's appearing again
> [occasionally, anyway] in the Anderson enriched Judge Death strip [whose
> name I temporarily forget]. Too much MC1 in one issue? Too much judgery?
> What do people think of them?

Whoa! Crisis on Infinite Usenet ... the barriers between newsgroups are
falling. Threads will live, threads will die ...

(Translation: Hi, Erith!)

> Or would that be off-topic?

You'd think so, judging by most of the threads on here, but I'm as guilty of
off-topic fluff as the next poster ...

Erm, I don't think the issue of 'too much MC1' really comes into it. It's
more a question of 'Can you have too much Wagner?' ... to which I would
answer with a resounding 'NO!' ...

Cheers

Jim

Jamie Beamish

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Jun 2, 2002, 7:12:05 AM6/2/02
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>
> Erm, I don't think the issue of 'too much MC1' really comes into it. It's
> more a question of 'Can you have too much Wagner?' ... to which I would
> answer with a resounding 'NO!' ...
>
> Cheers
>
> Jim
>


Resoundingly seconded! Where's the chopper story by wagner and kennedy that
we were promised by prog 2002.

Be cool

Jamie B

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Aonghus Heatley

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Jun 2, 2002, 1:17:14 PM6/2/02
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I hope they don't try to end the Judge Death strip too quickly. There's a
habit in comics to bring back a major villain and then wrap things up in a
few pages. The conclusion of this story should be at least as long as that
in the last Death strip. But i'm guessing it won't be.


ohobain

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Jun 2, 2002, 6:48:37 PM6/2/02
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"Graeme" <gra...@sodoff.optushome.com.au> wrote in message
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> "erithromycin" <erithr...@ananzi.co.za> wrote in
> news:3cf9366e$0$1598$afc3...@news.ukonline.co.uk:
>
> >
> My opinion of "Death" is still a little marred by the "will no-one think
> of the children?" mis-step, which is certainly appropriate for Anderson
> but not for hardened street judges.
<snip>
well, the most of the children stuff came from the judge that was assigned
to anderson (breech?) who seemed quite young to me, in the way he acted, and
in the way he called anderson "ma'am"

--
Ro.
"now, none of us has ever done this before, except for mike who once stole a
tank and tried to invade Paris."


Graeme

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Jun 2, 2002, 7:39:44 PM6/2/02
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"ohobain" <str...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> well, the most of the children stuff came from the judge that was assigned
> to anderson (breech?) who seemed quite young to me, in the way he acted,
and
> in the way he called anderson "ma'am"

Well I did say it was my problem rather than Wagner's. Although Frazer's
helmeted Judges tend to be a little indistinct at a casual glance.

Graeme


Arthur Wyatt

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Jun 3, 2002, 9:15:57 AM6/3/02
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> Erm, I don't think the issue of 'too much MC1' really comes into it. It's
> more a question of 'Can you have too much Wagner?' ... to which I would
> answer with a resounding 'NO!' ...
>
> Cheers
>
> Jim


Mainly because the alternative would probable be more Steve Moore...

erithromycin

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Jun 2, 2002, 11:00:58 AM6/2/02
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Jim Campbell:

>in article 3cf9366e$0$1598$afc3...@news.ukonline.co.uk, erithromycin at
>erithr...@ananzi.co.za wrote on 1/6/02 2:19 pm:

>>We've got a Dredd 'epic' in 'Sin City, and he's appearing again
>>[occasionally, anyway] in the Anderson enriched Judge Death strip [whose
>>name I temporarily forget]. Too much MC1 in one issue? Too much judgery?
>>What do people think of them?

>Whoa! Crisis on Infinite Usenet ... the barriers between newsgroups are
>falling. Threads will live, threads will die ...

>(Translation: Hi, Erith!)

I got it. :) This seems to be a friendly newsgroup, like it used to be.

>>Or would that be off-topic?

>You'd think so, judging by most of the threads on here, but I'm as guilty
of
>off-topic fluff as the next poster ...

Are you sure?

>Erm, I don't think the issue of 'too much MC1' really comes into it. It's
>more a question of 'Can you have too much Wagner?' ... to which I would
>answer with a resounding 'NO!' ...

Well, I don't think you can have too much Wagner, but it's nice to see MC1
from different perspectives at the same time. If that makes sense, which I
think it does. The differences in art do for a lot of that though, and it's
nice to see Anderson back. I quite like the hyper-real clear line/colour
stuff going on in Sin City though.
--
erith -
"Something must have changed about my biochemistry. Since Tuesday."


erithromycin

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Jun 2, 2002, 10:55:05 AM6/2/02
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Graeme:

>"erithromycin" <erithr...@ananzi.co.za> wrote in
>news:3cf9366e$0$1598$afc3...@news.ukonline.co.uk:

>>We've got a Dredd 'epic' in 'Sin City, and he's appearing again
>>[occasionally, anyway] in the Anderson enriched Judge Death strip
>>[whose name I temporarily forget]. Too much MC1 in one issue? Too much
>>judgery? What do people think of them?

>I'm enjoying them both, but "Sin City" moreso than "My Name Is Death".
>I like the "Pit" vibe that "Sin City" gives off, as well as the feel
>that the plots on a slow burn towards an impressive conclusion.

It does seem to be working that way. I can't remember if I've picked up this
week's issue [my tiny brain, it does not cope], but I did like the three
mutants getting into mega-city one sub-plot. It was intriguing to see a
sub-plot within an main plot movement episode, which worked in accordance
with the rest of the story. It also had jokes.

>My opinion of "Death" is still a little marred by the "will no-one think
>of the children?" mis-step, which is certainly appropriate for Anderson
>but not for hardened street judges.

I was a little perturbed by it. I mean, there's a 'serious crime every
second'[1] according to most of the literature. Now, my gf, who's not MC1
savvy, said "but isn't that about average for New York now?". I stumbled, a
bit. Then remembered that it's MC1. A 'serious crime' is likely one in which
more than ten people die. Or does someone have another theory?

>But that's my problem rather than
>the story's itself, and it's good to see Death finally using his undead
>brain to deal with his opponents instead of relying on megadeath
>solutions from the outset.

Well, there's Mrs. Gunderson to think of, isn't there?

erith -

[1] According to Dredd: RPG from Mongoose, which is quite good.
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James Graham

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Jun 3, 2002, 2:58:00 PM6/3/02
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In article <3cfbb36e$0$4736$afc3...@news.ukonline.co.uk>,
erithr...@ananzi.co.za (erithromycin) wrote:

> I was a little perturbed by it. I mean, there's a 'serious crime every
> second'[1] according to most of the literature. Now, my gf, who's not
> MC1
> savvy, said "but isn't that about average for New York now?". I
> stumbled, a
> bit. Then remembered that it's MC1. A 'serious crime' is likely one in
> which
> more than ten people die. Or does someone have another theory?

The problem is, it is hard for Wagner and co to keep up with reality. I
understand you can now watch "Gluttonbowl" on Bravo. We're electing
monkeys as mayors. Dead people are now being preserved and portrayed as
art. The truth is, we're living in Mega City 1 right now.

But as for New York, I understand crime there has been massively reduced
in recent years, thanks in part to Giuliani. Social deprevation has just
been swept under the carpet of course, and how long it will be before the
bubble bursts again is anyone's guess.

James

erithromycin

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Jun 3, 2002, 6:48:39 PM6/3/02
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Graeme

I did get the impression that he was young, but it was from the way he
acted. Though I suspect that, if Wagner's maintaining cross-continuity
[Crisis In Infinite Usenet!] there are a stack of rushed cadets in the
streets, to make up numbers. Hence the manpower failures that lead to a
corrupt Tek-Judge _selling_ Judge Death to a collector.

I think, however, that he calls Anderson "ma'am" because that's what he's
been told to in "Means of Address For Notable Judicial Personnel" prior to
graduation. It's likely a component of "Interacting With Judicial
Personnel".

"If it is _not_ a firefight, but there are judicial weapons drawn, and the
judge you are nearest to is senior to your sector chief, _and_ your sector
chief is present, which one do you talk to first, and how do you address
them?"

"Extra Credit: If a criminal fires upon your position, and you are unable to
return fire, which of the previously mentioned personnel do you attempt to
assist?"

"Psi-Judges are to be refered to by surname, unless they a) inform you
otherwise, or b) have participated in actions which are known to you which
have saved MC1, in which case you should use an honorific such as 'sir' or
'ma'am' or the form of address that they stipulate."
--
erith - ah, etiquette


erithromycin

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Jun 3, 2002, 6:38:40 PM6/3/02
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James:
>(erithromycin) wrote:

>>I was a little perturbed by it. I mean, there's a 'serious crime every
>>second'[1] according to most of the literature. Now, my gf, who's not
>>MC1
>>savvy, said "but isn't that about average for New York now?". I
>>stumbled, a
>>bit. Then remembered that it's MC1. A 'serious crime' is likely one in
>>which
>>more than ten people die. Or does someone have another theory?

>The problem is, it is hard for Wagner and co to keep up with reality. I
>understand you can now watch "Gluttonbowl" on Bravo.

Cool. Then there's California and NY with their [proposed] dedicated smoking
areas.

>We're electing monkeys as mayors.

Well, guys in monkey costumes. Is that chimping?

>Dead people are now being preserved and portrayed as art.

In Glasgow on the 10th of this month, for one day only. I'm going.

>The truth is, we're living in Mega City 1 right now.

Well, I don't have a car that can do 200 on the meg-way. Though with some of
the proposed legislation for combating drug use we're looking at MC1 level
injustices. Confiscation of all assets that may have been purchased using
illegal income? Retrial at the prosecutor's behest? [in effect, the removal
of 'Double Jeopardy'] Ever expanding jails? Deportation from Fortress
Europe? Not quite yet. Give it time.

>But as for New York, I understand crime there has been massively reduced

>in recent years, thanks in part to Giuliani. Social deprivation has just


>been swept under the carpet of course, and how long it will be before the
>bubble bursts again is anyone's guess.

Well, figure that we're at, um, 160 million for MC1? I forget what it is
post Narcos. Actually, does anyone recall the numbers of Judges? I'm going
to have to go through The Dread Archive, and it's all out of order at the
moment. Gah!

Now, what was I saying?

Guiliani did 'some good stuff', and 'reduced crime', but this is the same
NYPD that shot an unarmed man _43_ times when he reached for his wallet. Yes
Times Square is a safe place to take your family, in fact, most of mine's
going next month, but there's still a stack of crime. Anyway, extend serious
crime to include 'Acts Which Endanger The Safety of Megacity One' and it
probably does average out as one a second. Or, you know, at least once every
year and a half, depending on circulation. :)
--
erith - this places smells of a midden


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