Sean
There is a chance the material was legitimatley purchased,
Damn, I watched that last night going "I know I've heard this before"
but I couldn't place it. Williams was his typical frantic self, and I
saw Jay trying hard to control Robin. At first, I thought maybe
because Williams had already used some naughty words, and Leno was
just wanting him to talk about "One Hour Photo" and bail to prevent
any blue-hairs from griping to Michael Powell.
Now, after reading your post, maybe the old stand-up in Leno made him
stop the joke thievery. That would explain why Leno seemed so
uncomfortable.
- Ray Bradley
hoping against hope
Yeah. I saw him do that joke. Ray did it on the HBO young comedians.
The movie looks good, and I think Shubert has a part in ONE HOUR
PHOTO.
Dan Mengini
http://www.danmengini.com
Uh, you know, it's possible that he bought the bit. I mean, Romano is
the star of a successful TV show. If Robin Williams is riping him off
wouldn't Ray complain and wouldn't said complaint make news somewhere?
I could be wrong but unless you've heard press reports I've missed or
know someone in the Ray Romano inner circle, you really should temper
your allegations. That's not an attack, I'm just making a suggestion.
-Joe Dixon
Question two: why would an already rich-as-hell Ray Romano SELL an ancient bit
to Robin knowing full well it would be controversial to anyone who gave a
flying frig?
Question three: Why didn't Leno, who has intimate knowledge of every bit done
by any comic on TV during his lifetime, say anything? Stu, doesn't that make
him an accessory? Technically, I mean.
In any case, what the hell Kiddies, it's HOLLYWOOD. The rules of polite society
don't apply there. When you have an Oscar, you'll be able to do whatever YOU
want, and no one will say dick to you about it. It's only the poor schlub
trying to pay his rent in some crappy 'D' room that's going to catch any shiite
for hacking a bit.
Burke
Burke
Curses!
Tom Clark
www.tomclark.com
PsychicComedy wrote:
>
> Question three: Why didn't Leno, who has intimate knowledge of
> every bit done by any comic on TV during his lifetime, say
> anything? Stu, doesn't that make him an accessory? Technically,
> I mean.
Depending on all the facts and circumstances, it could. But not
necessarily.
Stu
> There is a chance the material was legitimatley purchased,
Does Ray Romano need to sell material? Man, did sitcom pay go down
since "the boom" too??
>In any case, what the hell Kiddies, it's HOLLYWOOD. The rules of polite
>society
>don't apply there.
If he did it on Letterman would you say "what the hell Kiddies, it's NEW YORK"?
Brad Slaight
Really.. because Robin is known to buy material... NOT!
>HappyGi...@webtv.net (Happy Gilmore)
>wrote:
What I'm trying to say is, I don't think the "idea" of implanting
all this garbage in the body is really new, or that it "belongs" to
anyone. Of course the idea is funny, especially if it's delivered in
a funny package. Maybe a lot of different comics can deliver the same
goods to the same place, but maybe they're all coming from a place of
their own. I didn't see this bit from either guy. Someone said
Williams' bit was "word for word" the same as Romano's. If so, then
he's either stealing it or he bought it. Or maybe he just likes it
and it never really belonged to Romano, either. Maybe the
"word-for-word" description we got in here from one guy is not a good
description. I don't know. I don't even care for Robin Williams.
Still, it seems accusing this guy of stealing bits is a very popular
and acceptable pastime in this newsgroup.
Tommy Joe (I know nothing, but I still know as much as you)
> It's only the poor schlub
>trying to pay his rent in some crappy 'D' room that's going to catch any
>shiite
>for hacking a bit.
That said, I saw a guy do the bit word for word at a 9/11 benefit Wednesday
night. Who should I call, Ray or Robin?
Mike
> Question two: why would an already rich-as-hell Ray Romano SELL an ancient bit
> to Robin knowing full well it would be controversial to anyone who gave a
> flying frig?
>
>
> Burke
Just a quick point: If the bit is ancient why wouldn't he just sell
it? He ain't gonna do it no more. As for it being 'controversial' to
anyone who gave a fig, I rather doubt either man would give a damn.
But I must say, most of the response in the thread would seem to make
a strong case that I'm wrong and Robin did rip off Ray Romano. Which
begs the question, why don't comics in a position of power publicly
call Williams on it? I mean, Jesus, why is Jackie Mason the only one
willing to sue about something like this?
-Joe Dixon
Thats why I really love posting to this group. Misspell one word and
some Pompous Ivy League Cum Receptor will leap all over it.
Well sorry Im not perfect.
Sean
I wil tie too spel btr nxt tme asshole i promese.
See im getting better.
SCOTTY: Cap'n ... it's the cum receptors ... they canna take much more a-this.
KIRK: Arrrr, me hearty ... batten down the dilithium crystals. 'Tis a mighty
squall approachin from the forbidden zone t-be sure.
I hope this puts this matter to rest.
Ollie
Semper "Steal This" Fi
It was 12 years ago when Ray first did it.
Burke
He doesn't need the money.
The better question is...why would Robin buy it?
Burke
Holy crap guys and gals it's pretty simple. The first time I saw the
bit was when Ray did it on HBO YOUNG COMEDIANS SPECIAL. That's the
first time I ever saw the bit. Not calling you a bunch of liars, but
that's the first time I saw the bit. I'm not sure what year he was
on, but he did the bit about putting the cell phone in his head and
tapping each ear when getting a call, and then looking over his
shoulder and saying... I'm getting a fax. I saw Ray do that on HBO,
but Robin was going crazy on Leno and that's what came to his mind at
that moment... it didn't look like a planned attempt. I don't care
enough to continue because they both (Ray & Robin) make many people a
lot of money. I'm off to do the second show with Goldthwait....and
they is a hellacious party going on in the room next to mine (I'm not
invited). No sleep for Dan.
With love,
Dan Mengini
Pete
> Thats why I really love posting to this group. Misspell one word and
> some Pompous Ivy League Cum Receptor will leap all over it.
I feel for you, dude. Pompous Ivy League Cum Receptors took my
daddy's farm. He died mopping out booths for Mamu. BASTARDS!!!!!!
Say, Keith, I just revisted your website for the first it in many
months. I hadn't realized it before but you look like a young Philip
Seymour Hoffman.
-Joe Dixon
Keith Bergman wrote:
Your dad was a charming Mexican with a doctorate degree in biophyshics but couldn't get a decent job here in the states because
the United States wouldn't recognize his credentials? Small world.
Keith Bergman wrote:
OR, your dad was the guy who was so loaded on crank that he BEGGED us to give him something to do? I think I remember that guy,
he said, "Can I sweep?"
No.
"can't I straighten up the shelves?"
No.
"can I muck out the stalls?"
um... Yes.
Then we gave him a room to tweak in, where he tore up paper towels into confetti and "redecorated" the room in his own feces.
When he came out, I remember, he stunk so much like shit, but I was distracted by the blood on his face and the fact that his
eyebrows were gone. Was that guy your dad? Cause if he is, I got good news for you baby, your poppa's not dead!
Yet.
love,
mamu
> When he came out, I remember, he stunk so much like shit, but I was distracted by the blood on his face and the fact that his
> eyebrows were gone. Was that guy your dad? Cause if he is, I got good news for you baby, your poppa's not dead!
>
> Yet.
Shit. Could ya kill him for me?
Keith
http://www.keithbergman.com
And she says she ain't been writing, kids...
Very good.........I like that one. It rolled out nice and easy.
Forget the writing lessons.
Tommy Joe
Bullshit! I did that bit about 12 years ago at a Junior High.
> Now, after reading your post, maybe the old stand-up in Leno made him
> stop the joke thievery. That would explain why Leno seemed so
> uncomfortable.
IT seemed that Leno was most discomfited when WIlliams' launched into
his classic "hot plates in dorm rooms" routine.
Seriously, though I didn't catch that show, I saw him on both Conan
and Letterman, as well as The Daily Show recently. He was great in
all of them, but did some incredibly old jokes. Some "oh my God,
please tell me he didn't just say that joke - there's no way he just
used that decrepit joke" jokes. Jokes that were probably first
uttered by Moses or something. I think he even made reference to the
fact that some of those jokes were just archaic. It seems like he
just loves doing old jokes (apparently whether they're his or not,
though I shouldn't say, going on nothing more than rumor - albeit a
surfeit of rumor). THe one thing I can say is that after reading Judy
Carter's Comedy Bible, with its emphasis on act-outs, he has to be the
king of act-outs. seems like 80% is act-out with him. almost no
premise (or an implied premise), just straight into acting out the
punch, and maybe even the setup at times. Anyway, I'm a big fan, even
if he is a thief (though I hope he's not).
also, it seems like the golf bit has been done before. I hope I'm not
subconsciously jumping on the calumny bandwagon, but it seems vaguely
familiar. then again, I thought the same thing when I heard Bon
Jovi's "Dead or Alive".
Incidentally, anyone know where to find transcripts of Leno's tonight
show monologues? (Preferably free and online, if that's not asking
too much.)
Todd
This is truly a sad day. Because of this joke thievery Ray will
be forced to live forever on skidrow and Robin will become even more
wealthy. This joke stealing has got to stop. How can we do it?
Let's get together and make Robin stop doing this, give him a good
oldfashioned beating to make him understand that you just can't do
that and get away with it. As for Ray, let's hold an immediate
celebrity tribute for him, getting some money together to donate to
him and his family in this time of loss.
Tommy Joe
if ive said it once
ive said it a million times
i'll start kickin him as soon as somebody else beats him down
but its not so bad for ray
i hear you get 50$ from robbys office if you call say he stole a bit
i even tried that once
and the chick said what bit was it
and i'm like
the bit about the fucking cunt sucking my cock and then i shit on her face
and that fucking cunt hung up on meeeeeee
can you believe that
I saw Ray do that bit in person in 1990 or so. I seriously doubt Ray
stole it from Robin.
Yep, I can believe that. I called that same office three months
ago and they sent me fifty bucks for stealing the same bit you say
Robin stole from you. He stole it from ME.............I like having
my stuff stolen. I get paid and I don't even have to do the material.
Beats being a whore comic.
Tommy Joe