#fIRCign--05-Sep-2002--1 of 2

[KenD]

Session Start: Thu Sep 05 20:18:47 2002
Session Ident: #firesign
*** Now talking in #firesign
*** Topic is 'Speaking of Featheads: Jerry Lewis looks like he ate the
Munchkins of Oz and assimilated their traits ||| note to the usual
suspects: Regnad will in all liklihood be out of town. Don't cry for me, Ar-hen-tee-nah '
*** Set by Regnad_Kcin on Thu Sep 05 14:05:10
*** ChanServ sets mode: +o kend^
*** Retrieving #firesign info...
*** kend^ changes topic to 'Conservatives favorite sin is greed.
Liberals favorite sin is lust. Who do you think has more fun? '
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<Bubbas_Brain> Hey all!
<kend^> hi bub
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<Bubbas_Brain> oh hi
<kend^> bad pings tonight, 16-24 seconds, but it's probably better not
to try changing. i did get on easier tonight than last week though
<Bubbas_Brain> where you logged in through???
[Bubbas_Brain PING]
<kend^> twisted.ma.us.dal.net
<kend^> twisted. makes sense for me :)
<Bubbas_Brain> 11 Sec to you kend^
<Bubbas_Brain> I'm on twisted mass, too.
<kend^> it comes, it goes, it changes
<kend^> we should be instant then
<kend^> i've never seen lag intra-server
<kend^> oh no! it's the end of the world as we know it!
<Bubbas_Brain> weird.
<Bubbas_Brain> and I feel ffine.
[Bubbas_Brain PING]
<kend^> isn't that a james brown song?
<kend^> no, that's "i feel good". grammar wasn't one of his best points
<Bubbas_Brain> I feel good. I knew that I would....
<Bubbas_Brain> I feel well! Oh what the hell!
<kend^> what is james brown the "king" of? soul?
<Bubbas_Brain> Yep. Along with queen Aretha.
<kend^> and their heir is the artist formerly known as prince?
<Bubbas_Brain> Might as well -- deserves it better than the king of pop.
<kend^> low blow. of course, with kids as your victims, it has to be low....
* Bubbas_Brain muses that Dr. Pepper is the king of pop.
* Bubbas_Brain still prefers TaB.
<kend^> damn, i thought only texans liked dr pepper (there's no period .
in dr)
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<kend^> is tab still made?
<kend^> hi cat
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<uhmeow> greetings
<Bubbas_Brain> Why does Dr Pepper come in a bottle?
<uhmeow> dr pepper, that's mentioned in the declining fall of the
roaming umpire
<kend^> sexual perversion?
<uhmeow> one of the roman household gods
<Bubbas_Brain> basically.
<kend^> i don't remember that one cat, just another reason to tune in
channel 85 soon :)
<Bubbas_Brain> Yes they still make TaB. I live on the stuff.
<kend^> is it aspartame now or still saccharine/cyclamate?
<uhmeow> tab hunter? is he still alive?
<kend^> don't know, cat, i haven't ever followed his career/life
<uhmeow> maybe he can be bait for the crocodile hunter
<Bubbas_Brain> http://home.epix.net/~tjwagner/tab.html
<Bubbas_Brain> Combination of aspartame and saccharine.
<uhmeow> i just remember his unusal name from i think 50s flicks
<Bubbas_Brain> They disproved the cancer thing, and it no longer carries
the warning.
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<kend^> my grandfather's real name was lafayette, but everyone called
him "fate". combined with the last name "turner" he was "fate turner".
quite the enigmatic name
<kend^> hi yam
<Bubbas_Brain> Tovarisch Y.
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<Comrade_Yamamoto> oi
<kend^> hell, almost anything will cause cancer in high enough doses
<Comrade_Yamamoto> ya
<Comrade_Yamamoto> ty
<Comrade_Yamamoto> cancer causes cancer
<Bubbas_Brain> Lab mice cause cancer.
<kend^> life causes cancer.
<Comrade_Yamamoto> I used to smoke lab mice
<Bubbas_Brain> If it weren't for cancer, lab mice would over-run the world.
<Comrade_Yamamoto> good high but hard to keep lit
<kend^> did you roll them or use a pipe?
<Comrade_Yamamoto> Keeps them in check
<Comrade_Yamamoto> pipe
<kend^> check? every mouse i ever saw paid with cash
<Bubbas_Brain> hard to keep them in a one-hitter.
<Comrade_Yamamoto> they rool away, otherwise
<Bubbas_Brain> rool away, rool away, rool away, dixieland.
<uhmeow> hi mr y
<Comrade_Yamamoto> hello
<Comrade_Yamamoto> cat
<Comrade_Yamamoto> how ya bee
<uhmeow> i'm just here for a few more minutes. off to eat spanish food
with friends, though it's still earlier than restaurants would open in
spain i fear
<Comrade_Yamamoto> home cooking?
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<kend^> enjoy it, cat, not much better in the gastronomic world than spanish
<kend^> hi brian
<uhmeow> no, spanish restaurant downtown vancouver
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<uhmeow> hey bf
<uhmeow> the lads are really pouring out new work these days
<Comrade_Yamamoto> better than tinned tamales(my dinner)
<uhmeow> two radio spots in a week, wasn't it?
<kend^> i had a gyro for dinner, with the good yoghurt/cucumber sauce
<uhmeow> i wonder if they'll have sangria
<Comrade_Yamamoto> Someone's gonna have to clean that up
<kend^> two in a week? did i miss one?
<uhmeow> yeah that yoghurt cuke sauce is superb
<uhmeow> jays were down 2-0 against red sox. now up 4-2 in 8th.
<bfwestley> eesh finally
<bfwestley> took a while to get connected
<uhmeow> one on monday and the one at the end of august, forget date,
was a wed.
[bfwestley:#firesign PING]
<Bubbas_Brain> where'd you connect through, bri?
<kend^> ok, cat, i thought i missed the second shot this week
<uhmeow> aug 21?
<Comrade_Yamamoto> Tierra Del Fuego
<kend^> hey, watch your mouth, yam!
<kend^> no fuego-ing in here!
<bfwestley> uncc.nc.us.dal.net
<bfwestley> but it's a bit laggy
<kend^> brian, bubba and i are on same server, should be instantaneous,
but we lag too
<Comrade_Yamamoto> bah
<kend^> weird doings in dalnet land lately
<Bubbas_Brain> kend and I both on twisted.mass, still have 14 seconds
ping with each other.
<kend^> cat: do you get arts&entertainment channel from the states?
<Comrade_Yamamoto> yoe 6min 1 sec ping!
<Comrade_Yamamoto> them chinese are gonna fall off
<kend^> nah, gravity sucks
<uhmeow> yes we do
<kend^> sunday night, original production of "lathe of heaven". 8pm
eastern, probably 8pm pacific also
<uhmeow> anything worth watching on it?
<kend^> not the old pbs verson
<kend^> version
<uhmeow> wow
<kend^> i know you're a leguin fan
<Comrade_Yamamoto> the angels woodshop?
<uhmeow> you mean a remake?
<uhmeow> wow, i love leguin
<kend^> yes, started from scratch from what i've heard
<uhmeow> the pbs show was superb, done for tiny sums of money
<kend^> i saw an ad for it in newsweek today
<kend^> yeah, i wish i had that one on tape. i will try taping this one
<kend^> one of my favorite novels
<uhmeow> krassner tells me the ad for his new CD in the new yorker was
the first time his record company ever did that
<kend^> of course, they charge the entire cost of the ad against his
profits, i hope it works to sell more than it costs for him
<Bubbas_Brain> Otherworld Media (Ossman's Audio Theater Prod Co) has a
version of Lathe of Heaven -- it on LodesTone.
<kend^> audio only, bub?
<kend^> whip that lodestone url on me, please
<uhmeow> i just checked tv guide and there it was/
<uhmeow> lathe of heaven, the radio play?
<kend^> i will be watching it for sure
<kend^> http://www.felbers.net/blogger.html
<kend^> look at the photos/captions, cartoons, and the hamlet excerpt if
nothing else
<uhmeow> i hear some tapas calling my name. see y'all next week. unless
i become the tapas
<kend^> well, it's not lodestone.com, that's a consulting company of
some sort
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<kend^> hi doc
<DocTechnical> dang - i missed cat
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<DocTechnical> hi guys
<Comrade_Yamamoto> doc
<kend^> the cat just went for dinner
<DocTechnical> thx
<kend^> purina tonight
<Comrade_Yamamoto> by THAT much, DT
<Comrade_Yamamoto> meow mix
<Bubbas_Brain> lodestone-media.com but I was wrong -- Its The Phoenix
by Leguin they have on the site, not Lathe of Heaven.
<bfwestley> hi doc
<DocTechnical> it's been a hell of a week this week - massive traffic
jams driving into work. My employer, INT Media Group Inc., just changed
its name to Jupitermedia so we've been scrambling to update all our
e-commerce apps and stuff...
<kend^> never read the phoenix, any idea what the plot line is?
<DocTechnical> I'm exhausted, so don't know how long i'll last this evening.
<Comrade_Yamamoto> wow
<DocTechnical> All this, and Tuesday was my bday
<Bubbas_Brain> Not really. Post apocalyptic stuff, is all I know.
<DocTechnical> I'm 30(hex)
<kend^> heap o' birdbarf to you, doc!
<bfwestley> yer older than me?
<DocTechnical> thx k^
<kend^> uh oh, "website certified by unknown authority. do you want to
view?"
<bfwestley> I'm 2d
<Comrade_Yamamoto> happy 110000 DT
<DocTechnical> thx y
<Comrade_Yamamoto> (binary)
<kend^> somehow 110000 sounds REAL old! 30h is much better :)
<Comrade_Yamamoto> heh
<DocTechnical> k^: i couldn't agree. more.
<Bubbas_Brain>
http://lodestone-media.com/cgi-bin/ltmcat.cgi?sku=OWME009&artist=Otherworld
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<kend^> got it, bub, tnx. that certificate thing was the only holdup
<StephenFosterKane> StephenFosterKane appears at 9:36:08 PM EDT. 4 Rain-drops keep
fallin' on my head
<kend^> hi klok
<Bubbas_Brain> go ahead and view.
<DocTechnical> hey klok
*** Dex_AFK_Logging is now known as Dexter_Fong
*** kend^ sets mode: +o StephenFosterKane
<StephenFosterKane> hmm, that was last week's entry msg. Sorry
<Dexter_Fong> Evening all
<DocTechnical> b_b: howz ltmcat.cgi holding up?
*** StephenFosterKane is now known as klokwkdog
<klokwkdog> hi all
<Bubbas_Brain> Well, the code is okay, but we got Cert problems.
<kend^> no prob, klok, we need some here, but it hardly ever moves this
way from you
<klokwkdog> bad breath?
<DocTechnical> dang - i hate cert probs
<kend^> cert problems? bad breathe on a website?
<Comrade_Yamamoto> Breath mint or Candy Mint?
<DocTechnical> it's two - two - two docs in one!
<kend^> two in one!
<kend^> almost as good as 3-in-1 oil
<klokwkdog> don't be half-safe...
<DocTechnical> did it expire on ya?
<kend^> and don't live a half-life either
<DocTechnical> how they get three into the one oil is beyond me...
<DocTechnical> must be petrochemical
<Dexter_Fong> 2 Docs = 1 Maina
<Dexter_Fong> Marina
<Bubbas_Brain> To save money, Rich decided to buy a discount cert
instead of renewing Thawte -- result is the message Ken shows above.
<kend^> hey ash
<klokwkdog> You can go to the UK, get one of those Certificate X things
instead
<Dexter_Fong> Hi Ken
<DocTechnical> b_b: that's no surprise - not a good idea to cheap out on
certs or domain registrations
<kend^> yeah, and put it in the x-file
<DocTechnical> ex-file
* klokwkdog uses Altoids exclusively -- they are now out in a limited
edition tin
<Dexter_Fong> Bastard File
<Bubbas_Brain> Yeah, I've got to give Rich a bit of a talk -- he's
throwing away dollars to save dimes.
<klokwkdog> bad money drives out good?
<kend^> wm. jennings bryan quotes here tonight?
<Dexter_Fong> Bad money gets laundered
<kend^> no, his was the "cross of gold"
<Comrade_Yamamoto> Moneychangers in the temple?
<Comrade_Yamamoto> Clean and fresh
<kend^> the templars are responsible for all good in the universe, the
illuminati all evil
* klokwkdog is halfway thru Zinn's A People's History of the United States , and
there is much talk of paper money
<kend^> paper money is NOT authorized by the constitution, we should
still be on gold/silver standard
<Dexter_Fong> Whew! I'm relieved to hear that Ken
<klokwkdog> don't know much about Bryan yet, so I'll keep quiet; don't
want to make a monkey out of myself
<kend^> nixon was a traitor to the true patriots!
<DocTechnical> fish admitted to me once that he'd much rather be doing
voice work than run a bizniz
<Dexter_Fong> Ken: Just proves that *nobody* liked Nixon
<klokwkdog> yes, well in the Ratification debates, the thing was that
the rich "revolutionaries" wanted to stop the states from printing paper money
-- hence the Federalists
<klokwkdog> Agnew did
<Bubbas_Brain> He's much better at the former than the lattter -- he'll
be the first one to say it.
<kend^> kissinger even prayed with him
<Dexter_Fong> Klok: Only until Dick dumped him
<klokwkdog> NYT had an arts piece on a Nixon-era jazz concert that is
supposedly seminal, with Armstrong, etc. at the White House
<klokwkdog> at one point, Spiro was improvising on the piano
<Dexter_Fong> Ken: Nixon was twisting his arm
<DocTechnical> klok: at the time, the states were printing their own
money right? were the federalists against the idea of a nat'l currency
(or had the idea even been broached)?
<kend^> spiro and dick played
<klokwkdog> the concert is finally being released on CD, something to do
with limits on the Voice of America, and it's apparently a BFD.
<Bubbas_Brain> Was mastering a book on tape by Daniel Elsberg earlier
this week -- fascinating
<kend^> does dubya play any instrument?
<Dexter_Fong> Klok: Yes re; concert. Couldn't be released until now
'cause Jim Hall (Guitarist) wouldn't sign release cuase he was anti war
and hated Nixon
<DocTechnical> klok: yeah, npr did a story on that this morning also ...
<klokwkdog> the Federalists wanted a strong central government that
would be the ONLY entity authorized to print money
<Comrade_Yamamoto> Kend-Kazoo
<Dexter_Fong> ]KLOK: Concert was tribute to Ellington
<kend^> lol, yam!
<klokwkdog> he plays various Oil Companies, Ken
<Comrade_Yamamoto> :)
<kend^> variations on a theme by exxon, opus 2000
<DocTechnical>
http://search.npr.org/cf/cmn/cmnpd01fm.cfm?prgID=3&prgDate=09/05/2002
<klokwkdog> yes, there was that, too, DF. Maybe it was the film (which
the article kind of left unanswered) that could not be shown due to
limits on VOA's power.
<Dexter_Fong> Is Cat returning does anyone know?
<kend^> dex, he was going out to restaurant with friends, probably not
<bfwestley> time for me to go...cu later
<kend^> nite, brian
<klokwkdog> Did he finally flee to Europe?
<DocTechnical> variations on a theme by enron opus $$$$$$$$$$$$$billion
<klokwkdog> nite bfw
<Comrade_Yamamoto> later
<Dexter_Fong> Klok: Film cannot be found, only have tapes of music
<DocTechnical> nite bri
<Dexter_Fong> nite Brian
<klokwkdog> betcha there are pirate copies all over USSR, though
<Bubbas_Brain> nite bri.
<kend^> pirates, arrggghhh!
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<Dexter_Fong> Klok: Film wasn't doe for VOA...was done independently
<DocTechnical> yo ho ho & a bottle of paxil
<Comrade_Yamamoto> mmmmmmmmmm
<Comrade_Yamamoto> mind candy
<Dexter_Fong> Captain Morgan I presume
<DocTechnical> dinner (appetizer) being served... will stop by again in
a bit (will stay logged on)
<kend^> that captain morgan is GOOD stuff, even straight up
<kend^> enjoy, doc
<Dexter_Fong> Mined Candy....we'll get your kids
<klokwkdog> enjoy, DT
<Dexter_Fong> Bon apetivo, Doc
<Comrade_Yamamoto> yow
<Comrade_Yamamoto> jet fuel
* klokwkdog is reduced to a beer and a roll until the eggs thaw
*** DocTechnical is now known as DocTechChowsDown
<kend^> frozen eggs?
* klokwkdog wonders if anyone ever chows UP? (other than Pit Bulls)
<klokwkdog> frozen egg whites, unfortunately
<Dexter_Fong> Klok: We drink up, we chow down
<klokwkdog> (I'm into discrimination this week)
<kend^> oh no, not the evil cholesterol demon being exorcized
<klokwkdog> I ain't never drank no "up" in my life
<kend^> 7-up?
<Dexter_Fong> Ken: You've not been criminated this week?
<Dexter_Fong> Klok" Dew tell
<kend^> dex, i swear i thought she was old enough.....
<klokwkdog> no cholesterol problem to speak of, but my concession to Atkins
<Comrade_Yamamoto> I'll take the Fifth
<klokwkdog> also, it avoids lots of messy debris compared to the Real Thing
<klokwkdog> heck, i'd swear she was old enough to be your mother
<Dexter_Fong> Ken: I was going out with this 16 year old....but she had
the body of a 12 year old =)
<klokwkdog> YO MAMA
<Dexter_Fong> Word, Klok
<kend^> after my wife left me, i had a month-long fling with an 18-year
old. thought it would kill me, but sure was fun :)
<Comrade_Yamamoto> yow
<klokwkdog> they just don't quit, do they?
<kend^> unfortunately i lost all the good pics of her when my laptop
hard drive died
<Comrade_Yamamoto> like a rabbit....
<Dexter_Fong> Ken: Always make backups
<Dexter_Fong> Or have a backup
<kend^> dex: i had a backup on cd-rw, when i tried to restore, most of
the files were blank. unexplained mystery
<Dexter_Fong> Don't get your back up
<Dexter_Fong> 'mon back
<Comrade_Yamamoto> indeed
<klokwkdog> or just get backup 18-year-olds
<Dexter_Fong> Ken: Maybe she was a figment of your imagination?
<kend^> that girl had back AND front
<klokwkdog> maybe she was CIA
<Dexter_Fong> A succubus
<kend^> no way, dex, but she sure was a suc-something!
<Dexter_Fong> suc-fucking cessful?
<kend^> with me anyway, i can't confirm or deny anyone else
* Dexter_Fong realizes he's just left a clean up job for DT
<Comrade_Yamamoto> what a mess!
<kend^> no, it's just innuendo in-yo-face, not outright porn or obscenity
<Dexter_Fong> What's amiss?
<klokwkdog> amiss?
<kend^> amish
<klokwkdog> can we have a clean fork?
<klokwkdog> oh yeah, they do it horse and buggy style
<Comrade_Yamamoto> let me wipe it on my shirt-tail, There!
<Comrade_Yamamoto> Look out for that riding crop
<kend^> you don't ride crops, you harvest them
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<kend^> i wish i had a good crop to harvest....
<klokwkdog> ok, while the testosterone is draining off, let me ask, did
anyone have trouble getting on?
* Dexter_Fong sings"Bringing in the whips...
<klokwkdog> tonight
<klokwkdog> ?
<kend^> i have a friend in amsterdam (europe) that grows his own, says
it's almost ready, invited me to come help with the harvest
<Dexter_Fong> Klok: I logged onto IRC around 5:15 pm EDT
<Dexter_Fong> No Probs
<Comrade_Yamamoto> got on okay
<klokwkdog> the town here sent out notice that there would be no drought
restrictions on the use of "gray" water; unfortunately, kwd is now
watering endangered plants with yellow water...
<Comrade_Yamamoto> ping is hellishly long tho
<kend^> getting on ok is one thing, getting off is another problem
altogether
<kend^> lol, klok! high nitrogen content could be dangerous
<klokwkdog> if you have a place to stay, the fare should be cheap, Ken.
<kend^> i should check even though i don't have the money to do it
<kend^> brb
<Dexter_Fong> Yam: 27 secs ping to you
[klokwkdog:#firesign PING]
<Dexter_Fong> 10 secs of serverlag
<Comrade_Yamamoto> yow
<klokwkdog> gad, 24 secs. all. I must change soivers
<Comrade_Yamamoto> We're all connected by tin cans and string
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<StephenFosterKane> StephenFosterKane appears at 10:06:29 PM EDT. 4 Rain-drops keep
fallin' on my head
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*** DocTechChowsDown is now known as DocTechnical
<DocTechnical> back for just a little while
<DocTechnical> second course on the way
<klokwkdog> wait a minute...who are YOU?
<klokwkdog> You impostor!
<Dexter_Fong> Fast eater
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<DocTechnical> insalata caprese
<Comrade_Yamamoto> I'm not taking about Hate, I'm talking about 8 Dinner
at *
<Comrade_Yamamoto> 8
<DocTechnical> spaghetti carbonara (left over from my bday dinner) on
the way
<Comrade_Yamamoto> language!
<StephenFosterKane> kwd is taking forever to flush
<DocTechnical> languish?
<Dexter_Fong> Swiss
<StephenFosterKane> happy b-day, DT
<Comrade_Yamamoto> holey
<StephenFosterKane> welcome to 39
<Dexter_Fong> Belated greeting DT
<DocTechnical> 30 hex, klok
<StephenFosterKane> they put a spell on you! ;-)
<Comrade_Yamamoto> 110000 binary
<DocTechnical> thx dex
<Dexter_Fong> 180 years old?
<DocTechnical> 16 * 3
<StephenFosterKane> 1000 airplanes on the roof?
<StephenFosterKane> one fiddler?
<StephenFosterKane> 42?
<Dexter_Fong> DT: You must have known the Finger Brothers
<DocTechnical> finger bros? well i know the fusco bros ... & k.o.
kippers.... no finger bros
<kend^> klok: weekday flight, stay over weekend, should be lowest rate: $534
<Dexter_Fong> Phil and Phil, the Finger BROS
<StephenFosterKane> well, I halved it by going from MA to OH - go figure
<DocTechnical> like the pillz bros ... ?
<StephenFosterKane> what is that in hex, ken?
<Dexter_Fong> DT: Yes but funnier
<kend^> don't know, i'm not a witch
<DocTechnical> dex: can't say i've heard of them... lemme do a google
search brb
<Dexter_Fong> Ken: We won't know *that* till we see if you sink or float
<kend^> although i might describe myself as a pagan/heathen
<kend^> speaking of heathen, anyone heard the new bowie cd?
<Dexter_Fong> DT: Phil Procter and Phil Austin
<kend^> dex: i do not swim, so i know i will sink