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Lowri Jones

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Apr 7, 2002, 11:41:25 AM4/7/02
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Did anyone see "a history of alternative comedy" on saturday night? Ah the
clip of the Young Ones going over the Cliff *memories*

Low


j d 8 0 8@hotmail.com Aaron

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Apr 7, 2002, 12:18:50 PM4/7/02
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Some excellent material. Some sadly missed comics too.
Alexei Sayle's take on the idea that writers believe there are five standard
story structures in the world with:
"Scientist have worked out there are only 7 different jokes in the world
from which all others are derived"
Then falls of his stool.
He gets back up, looks to the camera and says
"That was one of them, and the other 6 are about jelly"

...had me doubled over. Sayle's "Stuff" and other work is fantastic. Tis a
great shame it isn't screened more often. I suppose I could get cable.
Good to see the appearance of Adam Bloom too. Keep your eyes on that man.
If he can continue to hone his routine good things will become of him.

Proof for the existence of god though:
Leary = Alive
Hicks = Dead

Something wrong with those numbers there Jim.

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Covenant

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> Proof for the existence of god though:
> Leary = Alive
> Hicks = Dead


Errrmmm....

Wha' ????


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j d 8 0 8@hotmail.com Aaron

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Apr 7, 2002, 6:56:12 PM4/7/02
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Leary is rubbish. Hicks is not.
Did that get a bit lost?
For some I should stick to saying the actual words eh?

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RSM

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Apr 8, 2002, 12:18:58 PM4/8/02
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Except that Leary isn't rubbish. Neither is Hicks.


Aaron

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Apr 8, 2002, 3:42:54 PM4/8/02
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Hicks is fantastic - very much agreed. Often flawlessly observed, sharply
timed and believable as a person who felt strongly about what he spoke. His
material was impeccably chosen and his work was consistently top quality.
It's easy to say that Leary copied him as he certainly appeared to steal a
lot of Bill's material and delivery. What he didn't steal was tawdry and
puerile. Moreover, his Kinison-like attempts to shock the audience into
laughter were pathetic and his original material equally so. I don't
believe Leary believed in what came out of his yapping maw.
I guess that's why I feel he is rubbish. It's just a little thing, but
that's the reason.


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Covenant

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Apr 9, 2002, 7:52:44 PM4/9/02
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"Aaron" <a j d 8 0 8@h o t m a i l . c o m> wrote in message
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> Leary is rubbish. Hicks is not.
> Did that get a bit lost?
> For some I should stick to saying the actual words eh?


Well, no...

Cos saying that Leary is alive is proof of the existance of God, to me,
means that you are *glad* he is still alive...

Aaron

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Apr 9, 2002, 8:29:25 PM4/9/02
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Aha - I see - I see the misunderstanding.

Apologies.

Let's start from the top.

I think Denis Leary is rubbish.
I think Bill Hicks is good.
Bill Hicks is dead
Denis Leary is not.
A good being would never let this happen, therefore I deduce that God does
not exist.

I'll get used to this making sense lark eventually.

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Tricky Dicky

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Apr 10, 2002, 4:03:52 AM4/10/02
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He is an asshole, right? <g>

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Lowri Jones

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Apr 10, 2002, 2:36:37 PM4/10/02
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Argh i've created a monster.....


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Dan Owen

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Apr 10, 2002, 2:55:59 PM4/10/02
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> ...had me doubled over. Sayle's "Stuff" and other work is fantastic. Tis
a
> great shame it isn't screened more often. I suppose I could get cable.
> Good to see the appearance of Adam Bloom too. Keep your eyes on that man.
> If he can continue to hone his routine good things will become of him.

Yes, Adam Bloom's fantastic. Saw him years ago - very good, strong material.
Loved his gag about who he would ring if was ever arrested by the police -
just call up the police station's reception and make a bomb threat! Or what
to say to a copper in a recorded interview: "Ow! Stop hitting me, will
you!!!"

Great stuff. He'll probably do a show on TV and eventually wind up a shadow
of his former self like Jack Dee. Hope not. Dee was amazing on his CH4 show
in the early-90's, but everything since then has slowly become more mundane
and eager to please.

Dan


Dan Owen

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Apr 10, 2002, 2:57:55 PM4/10/02
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> Hicks is fantastic - very much agreed. Often flawlessly observed, sharply
> timed and believable as a person who felt strongly about what he spoke.

I really admire Hicks' ability to make REAL statements through his comedy,
etc, but his delivery just really irritated me. Something about him... just
very unlikeable and he has the problem most US standups have -- everything's
*too* well-rehearsed, *too* scripted -- it robs it of spontaneity and real
wit.

Dan


Tricky Dicky

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Apr 10, 2002, 3:06:20 PM4/10/02
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I have never found that with Hicks. I have two CDs of his and always found
him to be the opposite - in one of them he is obviously having problems with
some rednecks in the audience and really does go off on one.

Aaron

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Apr 10, 2002, 3:13:13 PM4/10/02
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Regarding the "one telephone call" at a police station, had me a in absolute
stitches.
Last time I saw hime live he was followed by Tim Vine. Ahh... what a
brilliant time that was.

Covenant

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Apr 10, 2002, 3:54:34 PM4/10/02
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Then you have heard very *little* of his output.

Dan Owen

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Apr 10, 2002, 4:26:41 PM4/10/02
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> Last time I saw hime live he was followed by Tim Vine. Ahh... what a
> brilliant time that was.

Ah, yes. Tim Vine is a classic so long as the audience go along with him.
I'd hate to watch him on an "off" night - that would be *very* embarassing!
Who'd have thought simply telling "groaners" the liked your grandad wheels
out, or cracker factories would turn down, would actually be hilariously
funny. He must cram about 1000 gags into every 5 minutes, and some are
absolutely inspired. But... can anyone *ever* remember more than a few when
he's gone? He's like a surreal verbal dream...

"So I was walking down this country lane when I saw this guy, naked to the
waist, lying face-up in a field with two carrots stuck to his nipples. I
said, "that'll put hairs on your chest!"

Groan.... ;0P

Dan

Dan Owen

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Apr 10, 2002, 4:28:27 PM4/10/02
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> Then you have heard very *little* of his output.

I know. Just an observation based on a few of his shows I *have* seen. I'd
certainly watch his stuff again, and appreciate the humour's basis in making
real comments about society, etc, but... just didn't strike me as a
particularly spontaneous and lacked a "magic".

Dan


Ian F.

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Apr 15, 2002, 4:52:14 AM4/15/02
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Dan Owen wrote:

> Ah, yes. Tim Vine

"Black Beauty - now there's a dark horse!!!"

"I went to the butchers the other day and the butcher said 'I bet you £5 you
can't guess the weight of that meat on the top shelf'. ' I'm not gambling!'
I said, 'The steaks are too high!!!!!!'

"I was in a Chinese restaurant when a duck came up to me with a rose and
said: 'Your eyes sparkle like the stars'. So I said to the waiter: 'Excuse
me, I ordered *aromatic* duck!!!!!!'

"I was taking the motorway out of London. A policeman pulled me over and
said:
'Put it back'

"A man came up to me and cut the bottom of my trouser leg off and send it to
the library. So that was a turn-up for the books."

"So I was having a meal with World Chess Champion Gary Kasparov in a
restaurant - it took him two and a half hours to pass the salt... After the
meal he called me a pepper-pot. I took it as a condiment.

“Voluntary work? I wouldn’t do it if you paid me.”

I think my bed’s French - the springs go ‘Dordogne’.”

“Exit signs - they’re on the way out.”

HTH with remembering! ;-)

Ian


John Fallhammer

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Apr 15, 2002, 6:30:18 AM4/15/02
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"Ian F." <ianfre@btopenworldputdotcomhere> wrote:
> Dan Owen wrote:
>
> > Ah, yes. Tim Vine
>
> "Black Beauty - now there's a dark horse!!!"
><etc.>

Which all reminds me of Mr. Ted Chippington.
Now whatever happened to him?
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Watty

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Apr 15, 2002, 10:15:43 AM4/15/02
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'A lorry load of Terrapins crashed into a truck load of Tortoises. It
was a turtle disaster'

and my absolute favourite, this really only works when you actually tell
the joke and not read it.

A man walks into a Jewellers shop.

'Can I help you sir?'

'Yes I'd like to buy a watch please'

'Certainly sir. Analogue?'

'No thanks, just the watch'

little miss naughty

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Apr 16, 2002, 9:29:26 AM4/16/02
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"Lowri Jones" <lowr...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Argh i've created a monster.....

(imagine Peter Cushion saying this dressed in a white lab coat...)

so unplug it's bollocks and kill the source of energy!


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