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Knawc

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May 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/8/96
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I am an Alpha Xi Delat alum from Kent State University and I agree that
the only way you will make the sorority better is to be active, go to
meetings and quills. Try to get together with your sisters and have
informal meetings, i.e. movie night at the house, meet for lunch, get
together and take a road trip and visit another Alpha Xi Delta house.
Please don't forget why you became an Alpha XI Delta. I know for me it is
one of the most special times of my life was when I became an Alpha Xi
Delta.

Angela
Alpha Xi Delta
Beta Tau


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la gringa bonita

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May 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/9/96
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We do that, all that, but there is a powerful clique in charge
of the sorority who does all they can to make sure that undesireables
are excluded from any and all activities outside of meetings. I've
never felt welcome anywhere at anytime in the sorority, I feel like
I joined the military or something. I hate being around them because
they constantly degrade me and my interests and my religious beliefs
(I'm Jewish). It doesn't feel good to have them come into my room and
tell me that my books are boring, my CDs suck, and how can I watch those
subtitled movies?????? I even got chewed out by one for discussing
politics with our housemother...can you imagine that? One of them even
ripped two bumper stickers that she didn't agree with off of my car, tearing
off paint in the process.....I don't even get phone messages, the most
stark example being last night, when a friend called twice and a sister
lied about not having spoken to her that night.....I hate it and I want
to quit....I'm sorry, these people are not my sisters. They go out
of their way to make me feel excluded and unwanted. If they don't
want me around, they don't get my money, either. To hell with them!

KT

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May 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/13/96
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> I am an Alpha Xi Delat alum from Kent State University and I agree that > the only way you will make the sorority better is to be active, go to > meetings and quills. Try to get together with your sisters and have > informal meetings, i.e. movie night at the house, meet for lunch, get > together and take a road trip and visit another Alpha Xi Delta house. > Please don't forget why you became an Alpha XI Delta. I know for me it is > one of the most special times of my life was when I became an Alpha Xi > Delta. Angela this is all a great idea BUT you forget that Stacey is TRULY upset. HAve you even heard of the UNSPEAKABLE crap that her so called sisters have been giving her? I cannot IMAGINE how hard it must be to live in that house and put up with all of that from the girls who are supposed to be her friends? SHE IS ACTIVE....she tries to be active but they put her down and make her feel like shit. How can you explain that? I think Stacey should petition her national about getting cleared status so she Rush again. This can happen and it is SO unfortunate that she has had to put up with this. I would call your headquarters and let them know about what is going on. I mean you could really go as far as to sya that she is being hazed although she is initiated. Zeta Tau Alpha [1;5;7m************************************* [1;5;35m* Katie Walthall * [1;5;7m* http://www.umsl.edu/~s999842 * [1;5;35m* University of Missouri-St. Louis * [1;5;7m*************************************

la gringa bonita

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May 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/14/96
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*Stacey gives KT a supportive hug* After what has happened
to me with these girls, I wouldn't rush again for all the
tea in china. As for my so-called sisters, they're a
bunch of whores. I can't stand them. We were at dinner and
I was sitting at a table with some girls I didn't particularly
like, but I was being as polite as possible. They were
talking, constantly trying to one-up each other; one girl would
express an opinion and another would say in a bitchy voice
"Well, I think (the opposite)." I tried several times to
jump inot the conversation, but every time I would start to talk,
a girl would cut me off, and they would pay attention to her
instead of me. I finally got fed up, got up, threw my plate
in the trash without touching the steaks we had specially ordered,
and left. Some girl yelled at me as I walked away, "Thanks a lot
for wasting food, Stacey; those were expensive." I ignored
her but I couldn't believe what I heard. What a crock of shit.
I hate this house and I'm absolutely postively utterly miserable.
I'm skipping rush this year, and they can fine me to their heart's
content, I'm not paying one damn cent. Those fucking bitches can
goddamn do it without me this year. Looks like they'll have to
find another soloist for pref night, fucking whores.

*excuse the profanity, but I really REALLY hate these people*

I am ASHAMED to call myself an Alpha Xi Delta. Just thought I'd
let you know. I should have joined a real sorority.

Stacey
*GDI*


Kathy Graczyk

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May 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/15/96
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Hi

What you should do is ask your national for automatic alumni status, and
then move out of the house. With alumni status the chapter can not fine
you for not being involved.

Since you have seen the ritual I am pretty sure they will not let you
rush another sorority.

I wish you good luck,
Kathy
gra...@rpi.edu
Phi Sigma Sigma, Gamma Theta Chapter

Had2Byou

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May 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/15/96
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Hi :)

I am so sorry to hear you're unhappy with your sorority -- I know the
feeling, though, since even though my chapter (Delta Delta Delta, Beta Chi
chapter) is pretty small, we often break up into cliques. (For the most
part, we are pretty close, but maybe that's because Ball State University
sororities do not have houses).

If all else fails, there is always the choice of leaving the sorority.
Someone suggested having your status changed to "clear" (or something like
that) and re-rushing, and that's a good idea, if it's possible. Are you
the only unhappy member? If there are others who are unsatisfied with
their experiences, maybe you could bring it up with nationals? A sorority
on my campus lost a lot of members because they didn't "have the vision we
were trying for" (this is what the president of that sorority told me
during rush when I was a rush guest). I don't know what she was talking
about, but this sorority ended up being pretty small during rush.

If things are as bad as you say they are (and they do sound pretty bad),
I'm sure you can't be the only unhappy one.

Good luck!

Elaine Arboe,
Delta Delta Delta, Beta chi chapter
Ball State University

Allison Cherry

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May 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/15/96
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I'm sorry to hear that your sorority experience has been so bad. The best
thing for everyone concerned would be for you to get out now before
things get worse. It really shouldn't be like that.

Allison Cherry
Alpha Chi Omega -Theta Pi
UC Davis


NoPesetas

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May 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/16/96
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Okay . I realize that you're upset, but you don't need to say that it's
"Alpha Xi Delta's" fault. You shouldn't blame the intl. organization.

I have a question: What happened to spark all of this dissatisfaction
w/your house?

Also, if it isn't everything that you want it to be, why don't you just
de-activate? If AZ isn't doing it for you, and isn't a positive force in
your life, just get out while you can. You may be happier if you do. I
don;t know which year you're in at your college, but maybe next year you
could start fresh w/no greek strings to tie you down.

All of my days as a fuzzie (i'm a senior now at the Beta Xi chapter at
Marietta College - OH) have not been all teddy bears and pink roses
either. I've been on probation from National, I haven't been best friends
w/everyone in the chapter, but I think you'll find situations like that at
any college, in any sorority. I guess what I'm trying to say is that
other people out there can feel your pain, and it's alright to
deactivate--plus, you'll save $$$$.

Leah
nope...@aol.com

SophiaAH

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May 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/22/96
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It's really easy for those of us who have had positive experiences as
AXiD's (or in other sororities) to give Stacey advice. However, from what
it sounds like, her situation is extreme. Petitioning for alumnae status
is an excellent idea. From what it sounds like, she's already invested a
lot of time and energy into the sorority. By becoming alum, she can still
be a part of the national organiztion. Hopefully, she can find an alumnae
chapter or other AXiD's who are eaier to get along with. I like to think
some of us are pretty nice.

Sophia Hanna,
Alpha Xi Delta Alum
Indiana U. of PA

SophiaAH

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May 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/22/96
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I was going to send e-mail directly to Stacey, but I lost the post with
her address on it. So I'm sending it to the group.


Stacey,

I'm truly sorry you've had to go through this experience. Being in a
sorority can be difficult enough when everyone gets along. It's easy for
those of us who have had positive experiences to give advice about trying
to be active and promoting sisterhood. However, when your sisters won't
work with you there's only so much you can do.

Someone reccommended alumnae status. That is an excellent idea. After
all, Alpha Xi Delta as a national organization isn't like your chapter.
Somewhere out there are nice AXiD's. By becoming alum, you still have a
wide range of unique and wonderful sisters across the world. As for the
situation at hand, is there any way you could move out of the house? It
sounds like you need to get away from these women who seem to have
forgotton Alpha Xi Delta's purpose.

When times get tough, think back to what made you decide to pledge. Look
in your Bonds of Sisterhood book and remember our founder's message. In
the meantime, form friendships with others who share the same values that
you have. While I remain close with many of my sisters, my two roommates
who were not Greek are two of my best friends.

I know you're at your wits end, but I strongly urge you to disengage
yourself from your chapter and not AXiD as a whole. I wish you good luck
with whatever you decide to do. E-mail me and let me know what happens.

Sophia Hanna

Dutch

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May 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/23/96
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SophiaAH (soph...@aol.com) wrote:
: I was going to send e-mail directly to Stacey, but I lost the post with


: Stacey,

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Dutch

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May 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/23/96
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SophiaAH (soph...@aol.com) wrote:
: Stacey,

: I'm truly sorry you've had to go through this experience. Being in a

: Someone reccommended alumnae status. That is an excellent idea. After
: all, Alpha Xi Delta as a national organization isn't like your chapter.
: Somewhere out there are nice AXiD's. By becoming alum, you still have a


For some reason my original post didn't go.

I just wanted to say that we have the best AZDs here at CalState San Marcos.
An awesome group of people wioth the best hearts..........

Sorry to hear about your problems but it isn't true everywhere.

la gringa bonita

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May 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/23/96
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That's all swell and good, beta Xi, but our chapter isn't ALLOWING
anyone to deactivate, or suspend their memberships. I hate the
sorority and everything associated with it at U.T. I could go to another
college and visit, sure, but I'd never visit the Alpha Xi's there, because
these negativeconnotations will stay with me the rest of my life.
These people treated me like crap. I hate Alpha Xi Delta.

Xi Hate,

Stacey

la gringa bonita

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May 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/23/96
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Why should I get out? It's my sorority too, and I have just
as much right to be there as they do, those miserable little fuckheads!
If I get out, it's letting them win, 100%!!!!!!!!! They
will have won, they will have conquered me, and that is not
exactly sisterly, is it? Treat sisters like shit to get them
to quit? What kind of shit is that????? it's horrible!!!!!!!
These "sisters" aren't worth me wasting saliva to SPIT on!
But I will not be THREATENED or SCARED into giving in
to THEM. I want to STICK around andshow those new pledges
next year what canhappen to them, and hopefully they'll drop,
and Alpha Xi at U.T. will be no more!!!!! I'll fucking help
them pack.

W. Edwards

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May 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/23/96
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hat's all swell and good, beta Xi, but our chapter isn't ALLOWING
>

Please excuse my ignorance, but does your chapter have a choice? I mean,
if you want to leave, how can they stop you? Even if you went through
initiation, that doesn't mean that they own you. Have you tried talking to
the alumnae advisors?

As far as going to another school, it seems like you can if you want, but
I still can't see why you can't continue to go to U Texas if that's where
you want to be. Honestly, leaving a sorority isn't the end of the world,
and you may meet some really great independent friends that you never
would have gotten a chance to meet when you stayed in the house.

Wendy E

sorority and everything associated with it at U.T.
I could go to another
> college and visit, sure, but I'd never visit the Alpha Xi's there, because
> these negativeconnotations will stay with me the rest of my life.
> These people treated me like crap. I hate Alpha Xi Delta.

> Xi Hate,

> Stacey

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la gringa bonita

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May 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/26/96
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We can't get alum status unless we've been an A Xi D
for four years....I've only been one for ONE. Alum
status is out of the question for me right now.

Stacey


Had2Byou

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May 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/26/96
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>>That's all swell and good, beta Xi, but our chapter isn't ALLOWING
anyone to deactivate, or suspend their memberships>>

Is that the chapter's decision, or the national organization's decision to
make?

la gringa bonita

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May 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/26/96
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Does it really matter? They're not allowing it anyway,
no matter whose decision it is, they've already made
our minds up for us, which I really hate. They've told us
to either give it all up for Alpha Xi Delta, or to
get the hell out. They said it should come #1 in our
lives...how ridiculous!!!!!!!! Who cares???????????????
If I wanted to live this way, I would have joined the military;
at least there, they pay YOU.

Tikki tikki tembo-no sa rembo-chari bari ruchi-pip peri pembo

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May 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/27/96
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What they are suggesting is that you may be an exception. See, most
sorority sisters don't go around abusing each other. Alum status is
NOT out of the question for you. You can even try starting at the
top, with whomever is in charge of Collegians at the national level.

At any rate, a chapter that abuses its members should be at least
chastised by National, if not investigated, punished, and shut down.

-joanna

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May 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/27/96
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They can't decide for you. Take it to National.
Or you can always take it to whatever Judicial Board/Ombudsperson your
campus has. Somehow I doubt that UT would be thrilled to know what
your sorority is doing to you.
As a last resort, you can even sue them.

-joanna
Upsilon Chapter, Delta Gamma
VP: Social Standards and Honor Board Chair
(which means that I have to know the rules and I bet AXiD's rules are
pretty similar)

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la gringa bonita

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May 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/27/96
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They'll sue me if I don't pay my dues. They have done it to at least ten
other girls in the chapter already.

SophiaAH

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May 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/28/96
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Stacey-

Sounds like you have two options. Stick it out in a situation that's
making you miserable and continue to complain about it. Or write off the
experience as a loss and get out now. Once again, I'm sorry this
experience has been so terrible for you and that you hate Alpha Xi Delta
so much. Remember, this problem is with this particular CHAPTER, not AXiD
as a whole. If you hate it so much, and for whatever reason you can't
deinitiate or become alum, distance yourself from it. I believe that
being fined for not attending events isn't condoned by national. You can
always appeal to them for some kind of help, even if it's just preventing
your sisters from charging you.

Your chapter sounds like it needs a lot of help. If your advisor won't
help, try your Greek life office. If the Greek life office won't help,
appeal to National. If you don't want help, but just want out these
people should be able to help you do that too.

Good luck!

Sophia Hanna,
Alpha Xi Delta Alum

Delta Nu Chapter

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KT

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May 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/28/96
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Sorry Sophia but there is NO way she should go alum with a sorority that she has CONSTANTLY tried to work with and they have treated her like SHIT. She should ask to be removed and allowed to rush again. Apparently the chapter at UT-Austin nea bit of "ass kicking or shapinmg up" since they have treated her like she is a piece of shit. I can't imagine ANYONE being so cruel. [1;5;7m************************************* [1;5;35m* Katie Walthall * [1;5;7m* http://www.umsl.edu/~s999842 * [1;5;35m* University of Missouri-St. Louis * [1;5;7m*************************************

be...@birmingham.com

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May 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/29/96
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CH>Why should I get out? It's my sorority too, and I have just
CH>as much right to be there as they do, those miserable little fuckheads!
CH>If I get out, it's letting them win, 100%!!!!!!!!! They
CH>will have won, they will have conquered me, and that is not
CH>exactly sisterly, is it? Treat sisters like shit to get them
CH>to quit? What kind of shit is that????? it's horrible!!!!!!!
CH>These "sisters" aren't worth me wasting saliva to SPIT on!
CH>But I will not be THREATENED or SCARED into giving in
CH>to THEM. I want to STICK around andshow those new pledges
CH>next year what canhappen to them, and hopefully they'll drop,
CH>and Alpha Xi at U.T. will be no more!!!!! I'll fucking help
CH>them pack.

CH>On 15 May 1996, Allison Cherry wrote:

CH>> I'm sorry to hear that your sorority experience has been so bad. The best
CH>> thing for everyone concerned would be for you to get out now before
CH>> things get worse. It really shouldn't be like that.
CH>>
CH>> Allison Cherry
CH>> Alpha Chi Omega -Theta Pi
CH>> UC Davis
CH>>
CH>>
CH>>
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Ashopper

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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I was an AXD at UT and it was awful!!! I remember hearing the rule about
no alum status unless you've been there 4 years. However, write to
Nationals, they should help!

KT

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Jun 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/2/96
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> It DOES matter, because if it is your chapter's rule, you could write to > your national office for help. After all, you are not very good PR for > them, which I know is fine with you, but the people at your national > office might overrule your chapter under these circumstances. Bad PR? Tha's a real nice thing to say. [1;5;7m************************************* [1;5;35m* Katie Walthall * [1;5;7m* http://www.umsl.edu/~s999842 * [1;5;35m* University of Missouri-St. Louis * [1;5;7m*************************************
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