Life with Ted
turn...@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Ted has never, will never and can never admit that any GLO (single sex or
co-ed) could ever have a reason to be.
He's a classic example of someone who revels in his exalted position of
iconoclastic standard bearer for the "Outsiders" of the world.
The saying that comes to mind is Groucho Marx's comment on why he was not a
member of Hillcrest Country Club, the historically Jewish organization in Los
Angeles. " I would never belong to a club that would have me as a member."
In Ted Frank terms = "I could never place any value in an organization that I
was not a member of. Or could dominate and twist to my own ends."
Ted has maneuvered himself into such a ultra-extreme position that he can NEVER
compromise, NEVER find common ground and never admit that hundreds of thousand
of willing men and women, of many faiths and many colors have pledged, been
active in and graduated from organizations that he would never ever have been
accepted in, let alone profited from his relationship with.
See, it's just too cool to take the high moral ground here, Ted against the
world, Ted jousting at windmills, Ted "making the world safe for...Ted."
He gets his rocks off tossing stones at glass houses, just because he can.
He has never and will never be a person content to let alone, to accept the
fact that that which he cannot control and bend to his own twisted ends may yet
have some value that he can never truly understand.
I have borne the brunt of many many Ted vendettas, I even used to keep copies
of all the nasty e-mail he sent me, all the vitriolic 1984esque editing he did
of my posts until I got tired of the whole exercise.
In Tedland, there is no room for those who disagree, those with a different
point of view, those who would dare to poke fun at his sanctimonious
demagoguery.
He is not stupid, just dense. Touch any of his hot buttons and he runs to the
church of Ted, where Nexus/Lexus are the cherubim and seraphim of the exalted
sacred Bibliography! He unleashes his own seven deadly sins:
1: Selective membership
2: Single sex
3: Self-governing
4: Off-campus
5: Traditional
6: Secret
7: Inviolate
Ted's behavior harkens back to the same ignorant behavior that (correct me here
Masons) swept the United States in the early 1800's, a great outbreak of
anti-Masonic fever that resulted in much damage and disruption to ANY secret
organizations.
My favorite image of Ted is of an ignorant towns person in Frankestein, his
face bloated and distended, screaming "kill the monster, kill the monster!"
I have tried reasoning, I have tried to find some middle ground, some amiable
compromise to agree to disagree. When pigs fly (BTW Ted, how did you get from
Boston to Chicago?)
Ted is of the position that superior liberal intellect is some sort of Nirvana to be
exulted in, a safe haven for all the reasonable and "better" people. He's
clearly smarter than us, I mean, look at his credentials: School : Brandies,
where snobbery and vacuous intellectual posing has been elevated to an art;
Activities: Phi Alpha Delta (pre-law co-ed SOCIAL fraternity) where all the
folks suck up to their advisors and speakers, in hopes of getting that rec
letter that is going to get them in the "best school" that their mommies and
daddies can afford; and my favorite the school paper, the last place on earth
anyone with a sense of humor and a personality would want to be caught DEAD!
The last refuge of geeks, losers and proto-intellectual pimps standing on the
outside of life screaming that emperor has no clothes. Big news!
Ted would never stoop to pledge a traditional GLO. He might not get to be in
charge, he might, horror of horrors have to take orders from some lesser
mortal! He might have to...C O M P R O M I S E! he might have to rake leaves,
and wash dishes and have people he secretly knows aren't as "superior" as he
knows himself to be tell him what to do.
Ted's idea of hell----the army :-), a place where pasty fat boys like him find
themselves on the bottom of the food chain, much to their eternal horror.
See, I know that Ted is going to call this another ad hominem attack . It's
one of his favorite phrases. For those of you not on the know, I have refed it
below
"Ad Hominem" From a Greek,--a pissed off venting, not based in verifiable
facts but spoken from the heart, an offer to meet him in the parking lot after
school and prove that every bad thing he has ever imagined about members of a
single sex selective Greek letter organization is true...in spades."
The fact that A E PI, an historical Jewish Fraternity, made in on to campus at
Mount Brandeis, and, gasp, offered to "help him see the error of his ways" just
annoys Ted no end. Indeed, the fact that the school administration did not
hop-to-it and make the world a better place by doing what Ted told them to just
makes his butt itch.
Imagine the scene: Ted in the Chancellor's office, whining " and then
they...and then they...poison cookies...phone calls...broken windows..."
Chancellor " You probably deserved it."
Ted: "But your brochures said that there were no Greeks here, that's why I
graced your humble campus with my presence."
Chancellor, hopefully "Does that mean you're leaving?"
I offered to explain to little Teddy Wordspin the value of the system, but he
just called me homophobic misogynist date-raping hazer. Must be because I was
chapter president, Speaker of Student Senate, Mortar Board, O D K, Who's Who,
Greek All American and the winner of the Community Service Award. Yeah, all
the things that make anyone a career criminal.
So you see Brothers and Sisters, Ted just doesn't and will never "get it."
Like Napoleon said "know your enemy." Thank you for the opportunity to vent, I
only do it once a year.
Fraternaly,
BLT
Ted Frank
>I am still amazed that anyone ever tries to "reason" with Ted Frank.
>
>Ted has never, will never and can never admit that any GLO (single sex or
>co-ed) could ever have a reason to be.
Etc.
Thus demonstrating that Mr. Turner hasn't read any of my posts. Carefully,
anyway.
If you're going to create a strawman, don't give it my name. Respond
to what I argue rather than your fantasies.
>I have tried reasoning, I have tried to find some middle ground, some amiable
>compromise to agree to disagree.
Baloney. Your methodology has consisted of threats of violence, insults,
and misrepresentations since day one. This latest outburst of fabrications
from you doesn't do anything to change that track record.
--
ted frank Annual Shanda for the Goyim Award:
the law skool 1991: Michael Milken 1992: Woody Allen
the u of c 1993: Roseanne Arnold 1994: Canter & Siegel
kibo#=0.5
Charles Royce
Great message BLT!
beaur...@hannah.enet.dec.com
|> Annual Shanda for the Goyim Award:
}> 1994: Canter & Siegel
Ted, i think this is the only thing that I will ever agree with you upon.
personally, i would like to hear what you have to say about the actual issues
in BLT's post. what about comprimise. i didn't hear you dispute one
legitimate thing he had to say (personal attacks and the like aside).
What about compromise Ted, I have said this MANY times before: Just about
every greek will accept the fact that hazing is still a problem in GLO
world. Have you stopped to realize one thing Ted, that the guys who are hazing
aren't going to be the ones who are going to be on Usenet debating with you
about it. The ones that are on Usenet are the ones that realize there is a
problem. Have you stopped to consider the fact that there might be one GLO
chapter out there that doesn't haze....of course not...because you are not
open to compromise anything. If you say it...it's the Word of God! If a
Greek says anything...Silence ye lowly Blasphemer!
This conference was created for intelligent discussions...not for
1) This chapter hazed like this
2) That chapter hazed like that
3) This other chapter hazed in another way
4) Conclusion: All greek haze and GLO's abolished.
have you ever gotten a bad piece of food Ted? maybe a carton of milk was sour
or something...you didn't write the company and tell them they should shut down
because one carton had gone sour.
If you are really studying law then you MUST be aware that compromise is a big
part of the game. As an example (repeat...EXAMPLE), let's say you became a D.A.
(District Atourney for those non-legal dudes) and you went after everyon that
killed someone for Murder 1. you are gonna lose most of the time. Alot of
the time you are gonna end up having the guy cop a plea for a lesser charge.
that was called a compromise. check the WEBSTER'S Dictionary (Not the Tedsters)
the word compromise is in there. we know it exists....do you?
Lazlo...
Phi Kappa Psi
NY Theta @ RIT
Ted Frank
>Ted, i think this is the only thing that I will ever agree with you upon.
>personally, i would like to hear what you have to say about the actual issues
>in BLT's post. what about comprimise.
What about it? Brian never proposed compromise, he only proposed to come
to Chicago to kick my ass if I didn't stop saying things he didn't like.
To him, compromise means being Fraternally Correct; it's plain from his
latest post that he thinks violence is an appropriate response to any
criticism of fraternities.
>i didn't hear you dispute one
>legitimate thing he had to say (personal attacks and the like aside).
>What about compromise Ted, I have said this MANY times before: Just about
>every greek will accept the fact that hazing is still a problem in GLO
>world. Have you stopped to realize one thing Ted, that the guys who are hazing
>aren't going to be the ones who are going to be on Usenet debating with you
>about it.
I dispute that. We've seen the President of AEPi post to this newsgroup
to cover up one of his chapter's hazing. We've seen other people on this
newsgroup make excuses for hazing, and still others deny that hazing is
a special problem of fraternities.
>The ones that are on Usenet are the ones that realize there is a
>problem. Have you stopped to consider the fact that there might be one GLO
>chapter out there that doesn't haze....
When have I said otherwise?
>of course not...because you are not open to compromise anything.
I think that's a plainly incorrect reading of everything I've written.
>This conference was created for intelligent discussions...not for
> 1) This chapter hazed like this
> 2) That chapter hazed like that
> 3) This other chapter hazed in another way
> 4) Conclusion: All greek haze and GLO's abolished.
I've never stated #4. My statements of #1-#3 were in refuting the claims
that "AEPi never hazes" or "ZBT never hazes" or other such nonsense.
When someone makes a false claim, and I correct them, why am I to blame
for the lack of "intelligent discussion"?
>the word compromise is in there. we know it exists....do you?
I've been compromising all along, Lazlo. Read what I actually write,
not what others write about what I write.
--
ted frank "Nothing in this analysis turns on the nutritional value
the law skool of a Monterey Ranch Chicken Sandwich."
the u of c
kibo#=0.5 -- 61 U.Chi.L.Rev. 650 n.45 (1994)
HeathT
allows the postings you read on alt.college.fraternities to appear a
good 25 % more intelligent.
Its called a kill file. Get one.
Suggested names to start with: Ted Frank
John Dobbs
James L. Coffey
: BLT one suggestion on the best way to handle Ted Frank. This method
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Johnny, long time no read. Welcome back.