Pen with longest lasting refill
Barry F Margolius
I'm looking for a pen to keep in my briefcase for emergencies.
(Dummylike, I left my fountain pen at home today.) The primary
criteria are longlasting (i.e. takes a long time to dry up without
being used), moderate price, and availability of refills in big cities
(this pretty much means cross, parker, or another of the majors).
Esthetic qualities are important, but considerably less so than the
aforementioned practical considerations.
I'm guessing that ballpoints last longer than rollerballs, but I have
never tested them against each other. I like rollerballs better, but
I'm willing to use a ballpoint as a backup if necessary.
Any thoughts.
-barry
Perry Derksen
Get one of those bics that has reg green blue all in one pen!!
Barry Margolius, NYC
Your suggestion has made me think of an idea that I am embarassed to say
hadn't yet occurred to me. I can put an ordinary, empty fountain pen in my
briefcase, along with a couple of in cartridges. I am so used to filling
my pens from bottles, that I never think about cartridges. Thanks.
BTW, does anybody out there have any experience with carrying ink
cartridges around in a briefcase. If I just throw a box of cartridges into
my briefcase for, say, a year or two, can I expect to find them full and
undamaged or will I find myself with a briefcase full of ink (yeech!).
-barry
red...@usa.pipeline.com(redbat) wrote:
>On Sep 13, 1996 22:26:11 in article <Pen with longest lasting refill>,
>I just saw this new Fisher pen. It is smaller in diameter than a cigarette,
>and about the length of an unfiltered one. Also you might try one of the
>pocket pens they make. The problem with the pocket pen is that it is so
>easy to lose. The new one I saw has a clip. The other problem, of course,
>is the feel of the pen. I also have seen little fountain pens coming out of
>Honk Kong. They are all brass, lacquered and take the mont-blank
>cartridges. They are the size of a tuckaway, but heavier. They run about
>$5.
>--
>
>Redbat
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Steve
Barry F Margolius wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a pen to keep in my briefcase for emergencies.
> (
> never tested them against each other. I like rollerballs better, but
> I'm willing to use a ballpoint as a backup if necessary.
>
> Any thoughts.
Ballpoints last A WHOLE LOT LONGER than rollerballs. I find that the
Mont Blanc broad point ballpoint writes really smoothly - and Mont Blanc
Refills are readily available at the big office supply places, like
staples and office max. The catch is you need a Mont Blanc ballpoint
to put it in...
steve L.
redbat
On Sep 13, 1996 22:26:11 in article <Pen with longest lasting refill>,
>I'm looking for a pen to keep in my briefcase for emergencies.
>criteria are longlasting (i.e. takes a long time to dry up without
>being used), moderate price, and availability of refills in big cities
>(this pretty much means cross, parker, or another of the majors).
>Esthetic qualities are important, but considerably less so than the
>aforementioned practical considerations.
>
>never tested them against each other. I like rollerballs better, but
>I'm willing to use a ballpoint as a backup if necessary.
>
>Any thoughts.
>
Eric Diamond
In article <3239de71...@news.interactive.net>, b...@pobox.com (Barry F
Margolius) wrote:
> I'm looking for a pen to keep in my briefcase for emergencies.
> (Dummylike, I left my fountain pen at home today.) The primary
> criteria are longlasting (i.e. takes a long time to dry up without
> being used), moderate price, and availability of refills in big cities
> (this pretty much means cross, parker, or another of the majors).
> Esthetic qualities are important, but considerably less so than the
> aforementioned practical considerations.
>
> I'm guessing that ballpoints last longer than rollerballs, but I have
> never tested them against each other. I like rollerballs better, but
> I'm willing to use a ballpoint as a backup if necessary.
>
> Any thoughts.
>
> -barry
I have found That the Mont Blanc (hey watch the flames!) LEGRAND roller
ball is an excellent backup pen. They really fixed the problems they had
with the regular rollerball. The refills are smoother, Last as long as a
disposable rollerball, and are actually sightly cheaper than the regular
rollerballs!
I've had one since the beginning of summer, used it daily and am still on
the first refill.
I've also used Pelikan, OMAS, Parker and Waterman Rollerball pens and I
think the MB LeGrand is the best of the lot, as far as performance goes.
Now if I could ony say that about their fountain pens....
Eric
redbat
On Sep 16, 1996 15:14:53 in article <Re: Pen with longest lasting refill>,
'b...@pobox.com (Barry Margolius, NYC)' wrote:
>Your suggestion has made me think of an idea that I am embarassed to say
>hadn't yet occurred to me. I can put an ordinary, empty fountain pen in
my
>briefcase, along with a couple of in cartridges. I am so used to filling
>my pens from bottles, that I never think about cartridges. Thanks.
>
>BTW, does anybody out there have any experience with carrying ink
>cartridges around in a briefcase. If I just throw a box of cartridges
into
>my briefcase for, say, a year or two, can I expect to find them full and
>undamaged or will I find myself with a briefcase full of ink (yeech!).
>
>-barry
>
>
>
as they were when knew. Old Wearever cartridges were not airtight. They may
have a seam covered by the metal at the bottom. I have seen the same thing
happen to Parker, Schaeffer and Cross cartridges, so it may be that you
have to change them every few years.
--
Redbat
Jim Greenberg
I haven't exactly carried ink cartridges around in my briefcase, but I
recently compared some Waterman cartridges I bought over 10 years ago to
some new ones. The old ones had less ink (they were about 1/3 empty) due to
evaporation. Most cartridges are inexpensive enough that you could afford to
replace them every couple of years and they are unlikely to leak if not
damaged. The real catch with carrying an unloaded emergency ftn pen, is that
some pens don't feed immediately when a cartridge is inserted. My LeMan 100
does, my Edson requires all kinds of coaxing.
I've been thinking about this same issue related to airplane travel. Take an
empty pen, load the cartridge after landing, remove cartridge before return
trip.
Good luck and scribe on.
Jim
(Founder, Stylomaniacs Anonymous)
Barry Margolius, NYC
ame...@gate.net (Alberto Melis) wrote:
>>(Barry F
>>Margolius) wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking for a pen to keep in my briefcase for emergencies.
>> (Dummylike, I left my fountain pen at home today.) The primary
>> criteria are longlasting (i.e. takes a long time to dry up without
>> being used), moderate price, and availability of refills in big cities
>> (this pretty much means cross, parker, or another of the majors).
>> Esthetic qualities are important, but considerably less so than the
>> aforementioned practical considerations.
>>
>> I'm guessing that ballpoints last longer than rollerballs, but I have
>> never tested them against each other. I like rollerballs better, but
>> I'm willing to use a ballpoint as a backup if necessary.
>>
>> Any thoughts.
>>>
>>> -barry
>>
>
>How about a cartridge fountain pen? I keep a silver Parker 75 in my briefcase
>with a handful of cartridges for exactly that eventuality. I forget my pen de
>jour (currently a Symphony), and that is my backup. Afterwards you can
>always throw the cartridge away...
>
That's _clearly_ the right answer. I feel dumb for overlooking it. I'm
going out to buy some cartridges today.
Thanks,
-barry
Steve
Barry Margolius, NYC wrote:
>
> Your suggestion has made me think of an idea that I am embarassed to say
> hadn't yet occurred to me. I can put an ordinary, empty fountain pen in my
> briefcase, along with a couple of in cartridges. I am so used to filling
> my pens from bottles, that I never think about cartridges. Thanks.
>
> cartridges around in a briefcase. If I just throw a box of cartridges into
> my briefcase for, say, a year or two, can I expect to find them full and
> undamaged or will I find myself with a briefcase full of ink (yeech!).
>
Barry:
I have parker cartridges that I have left in a desk for 2 or 3 years
which wrote fine when used. Regarding cartridges left in a briefcase, I
can't think of anything (especially if you leave them in their little
cardboard box) that will cause them to leak. Regarding longevity, I
have a Parker 61 Cirrus which I bought a couple of years ago, as "new
old stock" complete with box, instructions and original cartridges (I
know they are original because they have a different design than todays
quink cartridges, i.e. they have blue plastic on the end which goes into
the pen). That pen dates from the ? mid to late 70s at the latest, and
the carts are still as full as new ones today. I cannot vouch for the
writing quality, but there seems to be little evaporation from sealed
cartridges, at least over a 10 to 20 year period. Hope this info is of
use.
steve L.
Melissa
Barry F Margolius wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a pen to keep in my briefcase for emergencies.
> (Dummylike, I left my fountain pen at home today.) The primary
> criteria are longlasting (i.e. takes a long time to dry up without
> being used), moderate price, and availability of refills in big cities
> (this pretty much means cross, parker, or another of the majors).
> Esthetic qualities are important, but considerably less so than the
> aforementioned practical considerations.
>
> I'm guessing that ballpoints last longer than rollerballs, but I have
> never tested them against each other. I like rollerballs better, but
> I'm willing to use a ballpoint as a backup if necessary.
>
> Any thoughts.
>
Ball Points do have a longer life than most Rolllers. however if you
like a roller better I would suggest trying the new MontBlanc 162 le
Grand Roller. It is the same size as a mb 146 fountian. The one just
smaller that the Diplomat.
The average life-span of most roller refilld is about 3-4 weeks. The
new Mont Blanc 162 lasts about 3-4 months with none of the usual
skipping at the near end of the refill like you get with most others.
It's a great pen. And on top of all of that the refills are LESS than
the smaller shorter lasting refills.
http://www.worldpen.com/
888-721-PENS(7367)
Retail: $185.00
Our Price: $149.00
Thank You.
Melissa Switzer
World Pen
J.S. Andrews
Steve wrote:
>
> Barry F Margolius wrote:
> >
> > I'm looking for a pen to keep in my briefcase for emergencies.
> > (
> > never tested them against each other. I like rollerballs better, but
> > I'm willing to use a ballpoint as a backup if necessary.
> >
> > Any thoughts.
>
> Mont Blanc broad point ballpoint writes really smoothly - and Mont Blanc
> Refills are readily available at the big office supply places, like
> staples and office max. The catch is you need a Mont Blanc ballpoint
> to put it in...
>
> steve L.
a keeper. The rollerball from MB sucks, I wish they would come out with
a better refill. If anyone knows anything about this I would love to
know about it. I also have all three different sizes of the MB Black
laq. fountain pens. The slemder one writes like crap. The Diplomat has
a fine nib and it writes to scratchy. The Med size pen with a med nib
writes GREAT!!!!
If anyone knows how I can get the slender MB fountain pen to write
better or how I can get the nib changed on the Dipolmat changed please
let me know.
Please feel free to email me with any ideas.
<jand...@mcs.net>
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Alberto Melis
>(Barry F
>Margolius) wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a pen to keep in my briefcase for emergencies.
> criteria are longlasting (i.e. takes a long time to dry up without
> being used), moderate price, and availability of refills in big cities
> (this pretty much means cross, parker, or another of the majors).
> Esthetic qualities are important, but considerably less so than the
> aforementioned practical considerations.
>
> never tested them against each other. I like rollerballs better, but
> I'm willing to use a ballpoint as a backup if necessary.
>
> Any thoughts.
>>
>
How about a cartridge fountain pen? I keep a silver Parker 75 in my briefcase
with a handful of cartridges for exactly that eventuality. I forget my pen de
jour (currently a Symphony), and that is my backup. Afterwards you can
always throw the cartridge away...
Alberto
ame...@gate.net
Allan Tischler
redbat wrote:
>
> On Sep 16, 1996 15:14:53 in article <Re: Pen with longest lasting refill>,
>
>
> >Your suggestion has made me think of an idea that I am embarassed to say
> >hadn't yet occurred to me. I can put an ordinary, empty fountain pen in
> my
> >briefcase, along with a couple of in cartridges. I am so used to filling
> >my pens from bottles, that I never think about cartridges. Thanks.
> >
> >BTW, does anybody out there have any experience with carrying ink
> >cartridges around in a briefcase. If I just throw a box of cartridges
> into
> >my briefcase for, say, a year or two, can I expect to find them full and
> >undamaged or will I find myself with a briefcase full of ink (yeech!).
> >
> >-barry
> >
> >
> >
> Redbat
> I have seen cartridges last for years. Some however seem not to be as full
> as they were when knew. Old Wearever cartridges were not airtight. They may
> have a seam covered by the metal at the bottom. I have seen the same thing
> happen to Parker, Schaeffer and Cross cartridges, so it may be that you
> have to change them every few years.
> --
>
> Redbat____________________________
Inks are water solutions and cartridges are made of what seems to be
polyethylene. Over a period of years, water molecules will migrate through
the walls of the cartridge--it has nothing to do with whether the cartridge
is sealed properly or not--it will happen anyway. This situation is
roughly analogous to a balloon filled with air. After several days, air
leaks through the rubber, no matter how well it is sealed. The bottom line
is that cartridges have a shelf-life on the order of years. They should be
fine for about 3 years or so at room temperature. They can last much
longer at lower temperatures, but don't allow them to freeze--the water
will expand and possibly break the cartridge.
In theory, a way to make cartridges last *almost* indefinitely, would be to
store them in a jar filled with water. This would *essentially* keep the
water inside the cartridge in equilibrium with the water outside--i.e.
about as much water would leak in as would leak out. The reason that I
said *almost* is that there is a very weak force of osmosis at work. This
is because there is a difference in the concentration of molecules
dissolved inside the cartridge (i.e. the ink and small amounts of other
additives) and outside, where there is nothing dissolved). This force will
very slowly pull water into the cartridge as the exact concentrations
attempt to reach equilibrium (this is the principal od dialysis). However, we
are now talking about a process that would take perhaps decades. Also in
theory, if the water in the bottle had the exact concentration of large
molecules as inside the cartridge, the cartridge would last more than a
lifetime. Chemistry in (very slow) action.
Food for thought,
Allan
Allan Tischler
While I have been one of very few who have complained about Pelikan fountain
pens, I think they make one of the best roller ball cartidges around. They
are extremely smooth--very close to the feel of a good fountain pen. While
their roller ball pens are a bit pricey, the cartriges fit in a number of
inexpensive roller ball pens. I use mine in an Itoya, a pen that comes in
many flavors. That combination of an Itoya roller ball pen and a Pelikan
roller ball refill gives me one of the best writing pens available for under
$15. I highly recommend this as the spare pen that you seek.
Allan
Barry Margolius, NYC
Although this is a response to Allan's message (below), I have started it
as a new thread as I think it's an entirely different subject.
Is there any way to discover, other than trial and error, what brands of
refills fit what brands of pens. For example, Allan mentions that Pelikan
rollerball refills fit Itoya pens (presumeably Iotya refills also fit
Pelikan pens), and I'm pretty sure that Visconti Manhattan's take Cross
rollerball refills. Does anybody know any other commonalities?
I'm primarily interested in rollerballs, but ball point refills are, no
doubt, of interest to many readers/posters as well.
Allan Tischler <ati...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>While I have been one of very few who have complained about Pelikan fountain
>pens, I think they make one of the best roller ball cartidges around. They
>are extremely smooth--very close to the feel of a good fountain pen. While
>their roller ball pens are a bit pricey, the cartriges fit in a number of
>inexpensive roller ball pens. I use mine in an Itoya, a pen that comes in
>many flavors. That combination of an Itoya roller ball pen and a Pelikan
>roller ball refill gives me one of the best writing pens available for under
>$15. I highly recommend this as the spare pen that you seek.
>
>Allan
William T. Rankin
In article <323d6ddb...@news.interactive.net>,
Barry Margolius, NYC <b...@pobox.com> wrote:
>BTW, does anybody out there have any experience with carrying ink
>cartridges around in a briefcase. If I just throw a box of cartridges into
>my briefcase for, say, a year or two, can I expect to find them full and
>undamaged or will I find myself with a briefcase full of ink (yeech!).
I have carried Cross and Schaefer refill cartridges in my case for long
periods of time (~six months) without mishap. The case is actually a
soft bag (nylon/cordeura) and the refills were in an external packet,
so they did get bashed around a bit with no problems.
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Barrett W. Benton
In article <3239de71...@news.interactive.net>, b...@pobox.com (Barry F
Margolius) wrote:
> I'm looking for a pen to keep in my briefcase for emergencies.
> (Dummylike, I left my fountain pen at home today.) The primary
> criteria are longlasting (i.e. takes a long time to dry up without
> being used), moderate price, and availability of refills in big cities
> (this pretty much means cross, parker, or another of the majors).
> Esthetic qualities are important, but considerably less so than the
> aforementioned practical considerations.
>
> I'm guessing that ballpoints last longer than rollerballs, but I have
> never tested them against each other. I like rollerballs better, but
> I'm willing to use a ballpoint as a backup if necessary.
Barry,
I'd suggest the Caran D'Ache Ball Pen--basic but elegant, large capacity
refill, a nice variety of colors, and most important, writes nicely.
Rotring also came out with a nice roller recently--bright nickel-finish
only, but the above attributes still apply.
--
BWB
_______________________
Impatience is Virtual
Esterbrook
In article <ediamond-160...@207.152.86.15>, edia...@mcs.com
(Eric Diamond) writes:
>I have found That the Mont Blanc (hey watch the flames!) LEGRAND roller
>ball is an excellent backup pen. They really fixed the problems they had
>with the regular rollerball. The refills are smoother, Last as long as a
>disposable rollerball, and are actually sightly cheaper than the regular
>rollerballs!
Fisher refills fit, last longer, write smoother (they don't skip the way
MB sometimes does) and are cheaper than the Mont Blanc refills.
Sara Rebecca Hirsch
Ester...@aol.com
FDubiel
My experience says on average a ink cartridge life varies from three to
perhaps 15 years--beyond that the ink thickens--they can still be used but
the ink is a bit intense and may clog. However--any ink cartridge can be
punctured and emptied by shaking and refilled with a hypo--or even easier
by using a Sheaffer Snorkel pen. The cart cannot really be resealed, but
if installed in a pen after the cartridge is refilled with ink it works as
good, or even better than new.
Frank
Allan Tischler
I had written a technical piece on the lifetime of cartridges but can't find it, so
I'll summarize because I think the information is useful. Most cartridges today
are made of polyethylene, the same plastic as in common plastic bags. Ink is a
very dilute solution of dyes and other additives in water. Water is a small
molecule relative to the dissolved components. It is small enough to migrate
through the cartridge walls at a very slow, but significant rate. As the water
leaves the cartridge, the ink becomes more concentrated. The migration is
temperature dependent. The higher the temperature at which the cartridge is
stored, the more energetic the water molecules, and the faster the water depletion.
Therefore, always store the cartridge at the coolest temperature possible, short
of freezing, because ice expands and can rupture the cartridge. If stored at 80
degrees, a cartridge may only last 1 to 3 years. Stored in a refrigerator, it
might last 10 to 20 years. Should a cartridge loose significant water, it is still
perfectly good. Just puncture it in the pen, remove it and top it off with water
any way you can.
Another way to store cartridges for decades, but at room temperature is to store
them in a jar filled with water. This will greatly slow down the migration of
water molecules out of the cartridge, because there is an *essentially* equal
number of water molecules outside the cartridge migrating in. The emphasized word,
*essentially*, is due to the fact that the migration is not exactly equal due to a
very minor osmotic force. This is getting beyond the practical interest of this
newsgroup. Anyone interested in this aspect can e-mail me for more details.
Eric Diamond
In article <52h7q8$d...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, ester...@aol.com
(Esterbrook) wrote:
Sure, if you are writing with a BALL POINT. Fisher, to my knowledge does
not make a real roller ball refill. (Fisher's old parent Company,
Eversharp does, though...)BTW, i have found Fishers to be blobby and
messy, but if you have to write underwater, they can't be beat.
For regular ball boints, I like the Parker Golden Touch
Eric
Sanden1310
How about two+ ,years per Mont Blanc Ball Point refill. It takes a
licking and keeps on tacking... Bob
redbat
On Sep 29, 1996 11:58:28 in article <Re: Life Span Of plastic Ink
Cartridges>, 'fdu...@aol.com (FDubiel)' wrote:
>My experience says on average a ink cartridge life varies from three to
>perhaps 15 years--beyond that the ink thickens--they can still be used but
>the ink is a bit intense and may clog. However--any ink cartridge can be
>punctured and emptied by shaking and refilled with a hypo--or even easier
>by using a Sheaffer Snorkel pen. The cart cannot really be resealed, but
>if installed in a pen after the cartridge is refilled with ink it works as
>good, or even better than new.
>
>Frank
Especially when you can't find the cartridges for the pen. Obviously you
can then get ink colors that were never made in cartridges, as well as
different brands of ink.
--
Redbat
redbat
On Sep 29, 1996 11:58:28 in article <Re: Life Span Of plastic Ink
Cartridges>, 'fdu...@aol.com (FDubiel)' wrote:
>My experience says on average a ink cartridge life varies from three to
>perhaps 15 years--beyond that the ink thickens--they can still be used but
>the ink is a bit intense and may clog. However--any ink cartridge can be
>punctured and emptied by shaking and refilled with a hypo--or even easier
>by using a Sheaffer Snorkel pen. The cart cannot really be resealed, but
>if installed in a pen after the cartridge is refilled with ink it works as
>good, or even better than new.
>
>Frank
If you can't get a hypo, I have seen plastic syringes for using wood glue,
and also dull syringes for filling inkjet cartridges. These are much easier
to get. In NY and NJ you need a prescription to get a hypo, unless you can
bum one from your doctor.
--
Redbat
John DiClemente
In article <52trgt$9...@news1.t1.usa.pipeline.com>, red...@usa.pipeline.coW
says...
Or, you can use a pipette, such as is used in labs--a piece of glass tubing
that tapers to a long fine point, with or without a dropper bulb. You can
find them at places that sell lab supplies (a local surplus store has them
cheap).
Kit
dub...@ibm.net
John DiClemente wrote:
>
> In article <52trgt$9...@news1.t1.usa.pipeline.com>, red...@usa.pipeline.coW
> says...
> >
> >On Sep 29, 1996 11:58:28 in article <Re: Life Span Of plastic Ink
> >Cartridges>, 'fdu...@aol.com (FDubiel)' wrote:
> >
> >
> >>My experience says on average a ink cartridge life varies from three to
> >>perhaps 15 years--beyond that the ink thickens--they can still be used but
> >
> >>the ink is a bit intense and may clog. However--any ink cartridge can be
> >
> >>punctured and emptied by shaking and refilled with a hypo--or even easier
> >>by using a Sheaffer Snorkel pen. The cart cannot really be resealed, but
> >>if installed in a pen after the cartridge is refilled with ink it works as
> >
> >>good, or even better than new.
> >>
> >>Frank
> >If you can't get a hypo, I have seen plastic syringes for using wood glue,
> >and also dull syringes for filling inkjet cartridges. These are much easier
> >to get. In NY and NJ you need a prescription to get a hypo, unless you can
> >bum one from your doctor.
> >--
The best way to refill any cartridge or eyedropper filled pen is to use a
PEN--the Sheaffer Snorkel. Easiest to use for refills--and a really
great pen as well. Frank
Dan Blumenfeld
On Sep 29, 1996 11:58:28 in article <Re: Life Span Of plastic Ink
Cartridges>, 'fdu...@aol.com (FDubiel)' wrote:
>
>If you can't get a hypo, I have seen plastic syringes for using wood glue,
>and also dull syringes for filling inkjet cartridges. These are much easier
>to get. In NY and NJ you need a prescription to get a hypo, unless you can
>bum one from your doctor.
I use a 10 cc all-glass syringe (yes, they're still made) with a filed-down
16 ga. needle. The glass doesn't become stained from ink, as would a plastic
syringe with a rubber plunger. Since the syringe is marked with 0.1 cc
graduations, it could also be used for concocting custom ink colors accurately.
I just use black Parker QUINK in it.
The key is to use a large bore needle; it makes filling much easier.
- Dan
Esterbrook
In article <ediamond-300...@207.152.86.15>, edia...@mcs.com
(Eric Diamond) writes:
>Sure, if you are writing with a BALL POINT. Fisher, to my knowledge does
>not make a real roller ball refill. (Fisher's old parent Company,
>Eversharp does, though...)BTW, i have found Fishers to be blobby and
>messy, but if you have to write underwater, they can't be beat.
>
>For regular ball boints, I like the Parker Golden Touch
I do not own a MB Ball Point. Therefore, I know that my MB Roller Ball
fills with a Fisher. Check out Staples or any other stationary store.
My Parkers only use the Golden Touch....that's the best for ball points
(my opinion). However, the Parker refills do not fit the MB.
Sara Rebecca Hirsch
Ester...@aol.com
Eric Diamond
In article <53vjo8$8...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, ester...@aol.com
(Esterbrook) wrote:
I stand Corrected. I just saw the new Fisher "roller ball" (its really a
ball point with a big ball) refill. They do indeed fit the MB and PArker
rollerball pens.
Eric