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MSauer1735

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I am curious how people use their pens on a daily basis. What do you write and
how do you use writing with a pen along with the use of a word processor.

Mike Sauer

munz

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great for doodling, meeting notes, notes to myself, checks, personal letters, etc.
and when I need to really think about the wording.
I use a (shudder) ballpoint when I need to press down hard on a multipart form.

ben

Matthew Donadio

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MSauer1735 wrote:
> I am curious how people use their pens on a daily basis. What do you write and
> how do you use writing with a pen along with the use of a word processor.

At work, I keep a written log book for daily events. I also find it
easier to write out short FAX'es rather than typing them up. There are
also about 4000 PostIts stuck to my monitor. The wordprocessor/editor
get used for things that need to be in electronic form: manuals that
customers may get, documents that get editied a lot, source code, etc.

Home use is mainly limited to check writing and bill payment, but I
don't do much wordprocessing there, either.

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Bernadette Landolf-Fritsche

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I'm a child psychologist (no...not a very, very young psychologist, just
one who works with kids), and, thanks to insurance and mangled care, my
job has become unbelievably bureaucratic. I use my fountain pens to
fill out treatment plans (which makes this boring and irritating task a
little more tolerable), document phone calls, and take notes
during/after sessions. I use my word processor to write long reports,
but I use a beeeeeaaaaauuuuutiful Platinum Celluloid f/p with music nib
to sign them (my italic-nibbed Aurora Optima also works nice for this
purpose).

Bernadette Fritsche

MSauer1735 wrote:
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> I am curious how people use their pens on a daily basis. What do you write and
> how do you use writing with a pen along with the use of a word processor.
>

> Mike Sauer

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Mike Weathers

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(hospital controller)

Most of my non email writing consists of signing or initialing approval
on various "stuff". IMHO this is where the non-standard ink colors are
at their best. Right now Shaffer Bordeaux, Parker Emerald Green, and
Rotring Brilliant Red are in play.

Occasionally get to put a short note back to staff on the bottom of a
memo from them.


ted...@hotmail.com

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Let me be the first lawyer to respond! I take notes at meeting, annotate
reading material, sign letter and documents and check. About the only
thing I don't use my fountain pen for it signing material generated by my
computer. My signature is digitized and I sign all material generated by
the computer with the digitized signature.


Ted Fichtenholtz
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jkline

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Dik F Liu wrote:
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> I teach. During each class I jot on the attendant sheet what each student did
> that day, what he needs to do before the next class, books that I would
> recommend to him, when he will be absence, etc. At the end of the semester, I
> grade my student using these notes. Other than that, in school I use my pens
> for meeting notes, and for jotting down ideas. Then there are the usual
> suspects such as signing checks and writing love letters.
>
> But when do I really work my pens? I frequent restaurants and bars that use
> those paper table cloths - the bond paper type that covers the real table cloth
> so to protect it from schlemiels like me. On these paper table clothes I sketch
> out ideas, and sometimes I just plain doodle. I even sketch design ideas for
> clients and for friends on these paper table cloths, or use it to describe to
> my friends my newest projects. Some people find this habit charming; others
> find it annoying. Usually they find it charming and then two meals laters it
> gets to their nerves. Some of these drawings can get really elaborate.
> Because fountain pen ink is water soluble, I can wet the paper and then go over
> it with the pen, creating soft, wet, out-of-focus lines. Another trick is to
> dip my finger into the water glass and then run my wet fingers over the ink
> lines, creating a watercolor-like chiaroscuro shading effect.
>
> Dining with Dik can be a very messy affair.
>
> Dik
dik,
i have done the same thing...
jack

Edwin Pawlowski

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MSauer1735 wrote in message

>I am curious how people use their pens on a daily basis. What do you write
and
>how do you use writing with a pen along with the use of a word processor.


The personal handwritten note is underestimated. Not only a good
opportunity to use a nice pen, but it will attract much more attention from
the recipient than email, faxes, and form letters.

Rarely send cards anymore. Two or three sentences, handwritten on good
quality paper conveys more meaning than a high priced, pre-printed store
bough greeting.

I use a medium point and try to use bold or bright colors (Penmen, J
Herbin). I don't want my signature confused with a ball point.
Ed
e...@snet.net


Michael AuYeung

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I'm a student -- I go to class and take notes with my pens, always in Sheaffer
Skrip King's Gold on Friday to foil friends who go party on Friday and come back
next week. King's Gold never reproduces well on the copiers around here, unless
it's the color copiers; hey, if you go party you've gotta pay for it somehow... you
left me behind :) !

I also write long letters to people using my pens, and of course if I am required
to sign something... fountain pen time!

My reports and lab work... this stuff is all word processed.

MSauer1735 wrote:

> I am curious how people use their pens on a daily basis. What do you write and
> how do you use writing with a pen along with the use of a word processor.
>

> Mike Sauer


RAClifford

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As a former mental health clinician, and now managed care clinical director, I
keep 18 vintage pens in a penholder on my desk, plus 2 vintage desktop pens.
That coupled with 3 new cartridge pens in a glass flower frog, give me
something to play with, doodle with, write notes, correct treatment plans :)),
etc. I only use FP's and i will use several different ones daily.


Dik F Liu

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j-la...@neiu.edu

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Used correctly, they can open beer bottle caps, too.

<running and ducking>


munz <muns...@agtelco.com> wrote:

>great for doodling, meeting notes, notes to myself, checks, personal letters, etc.
>and when I need to really think about the wording.
>I use a (shudder) ballpoint when I need to press down hard on a multipart form.

>ben

>MSauer1735 wrote:

j-la...@neiu.edu

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msaue...@aol.com (MSauer1735) wrote:

>I am curious how people use their pens on a daily basis. What do you write and
>how do you use writing with a pen along with the use of a word processor.

>Mike Sauer


I actually read something in a very old book: People used to write
letters!! By hand, on paper. Imagine that! Don't tell anyone,
but I have done it, too. (Maybe some day they'll discover a cure.)


Ranes

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Tattooing kittens....filling with charcoal lighter to have a convenient
store for small fires....writing customer complaint letters about runny
lotions (and then randomly dropping drips of water so the ink
smears)....pushing push button phone buttons.....tormenting clerks with
credit card slips......letting small children get 'messy'.....propping
open doors......staining tableclothes......correcting junk
mail.......letter opener......pointer.......puzzler for ivy league
types.....bubble bursters......emotional crutch and
costume.......faking Mark McQuire autographs......and if I were
President, convert virgins.

WBP

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On 13 Jan 1999 19:53:01 GMT, msaue...@aol.com (MSauer1735) wrote:

>I am curious how people use their pens on a daily basis. What do you write and
>how do you use writing with a pen along with the use of a word processor.

Anything where I truly want to concentrate on what I'm writing. I find
writing with a good fountain pen that least distracting method of
transcribing my thoughts, though I must confess that I find dragon
naturally speaking a close second.

- Miles of notes with my class work.
- yards of notes with my businiess.
- Endless letters - for the simple pleasure of writing
- Much doodling to distract me from my computer.
- any trivial excuse to put a nib on paper "cause it's fun"


My real email address can be translated from the line below if anyone wishes to reach me by email

wbx at shaw dot wave dot ca

Thanks

Willie

Palace9

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I'm an acupuncturist by profession, so I use my pens for keeping chart notes,
writing prescriptions, doing translating work, and so forth. . . daily pens
right now are a gf cap f. nib Parker 51, a midsize Omas Paragon, a Scheaffer
Legacy, a Pelikan 800, a MB 149 (never given me any trouble and writes
beautifully w/a 14k m. nib and I dropped it onto asphalt from 5 ft. and the
only thing that happened was I chipped off a couple fins from the feed), a
Pelikan 400, and for carbons etc. a Parker Duofold bp (pearl and grey.) The
most important daily use to which I put my collection of 40 or so vintage and
modern pens is usually to line them up on my desk in different arrangements
late at night when no one can see, and quiver with disturbing and unspeakable
emotion.
Cheerily,
Jack Forster

Jeffrey A. Bourque

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So you're the one buying up all those Parker needlepoint nibs!

Regards,

Jeff

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rick en eefke

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ted...@hotmail.com wrote:

Let me be the second -trial- lawyer to respond. I write all my legal papers
in concept with a fp. I mostly use a Pelikan M600 medium nib, or a M800 fine
nib. Sometimes I use a Parker 75 medium nib or Sonnet fine nib. Signing is
done with the M600 or my Conway Stewart broad nib. These are my regular pens.

Rick van Coevorden


Kenneth Kennerhoff

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I am a Social Medical Doctor, that by the way nobody anyhow knows what it
is, but I have spent the last 35 years examining young criminals of all
kind, trying to find out why each of them became criminal and what to do
about it. Then I tell courts and social workers in papers my evaluations of
prognosis and best possible treatment and lecture staff on the technique.
(This is much more interesting than reading detective stories:-)
All that gives the main use for a fountain pen to aid thinking, jotting
alternatives, drawing mind-maps, getting the overview instead of getting
lost in all details.
For uncommon papers I use mind-mapping computerprograms and finish in a
word-processor, for routine court papers i use the old fashioned dictating
machine, but for the thinking work, testing thoughts before my eyes, nothing
beats the fountain pen...
What type? For jotting, most often a semi flexible Sheaffer Imperial in
silver, making it nicely heavy, and for more formal writing a black Pelikan
M1000. I find that I am slowly turning towards bigger pens..
Yours
/kenneth

Burt Janz

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I use black ink to write *all* of my checks. Been doing it for a while - I
figure that if the ink stains my fingers that badly, you won't be able to
rinse it out of the check.

Otherwise... most higher end pens are like jewelry. I use 'em to dress up a
shirt pocket, look good in an organizer, or to hold in my hand during a
meeting as an emphasis pointer.

Who says men "can't accessorize"?

\burt

Like the comment about "tattooing cats", tho... I renamed my cat
"sharkbait". Really pisses off my 15-year old daughter who likes that
walking carpet fuzz that eats.... heh heh heh :-)

Hans B. Rahr

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At work (as a surgeon) I use my cheap Sheaffer no-nonsense with jet black Skrip for
almost everything - patients' charts, forms, signing letters etc. The nurses like
it - they are used to doctors with single-use Bic ballpoints! At home, I write
letters etc. with a Pininfarina (F nib) for some paper types and a Duofold
Centennial (M nib) for some other paper types. What really annoys me is that the
intended-to-be-beautiful handwritten signature on letters printed out by the word
processor looks terrible as the paper suitable for the laser printer doesn't seem
to "take" the ink properly, at least not the Parker ink from my Duofold. The line
becomes very thin and uneven. I plan to try Sheaffer ink in the near future to see
if it's better.
/HBR

MSauer1735 wrote:

> I am curious how people use their pens on a daily basis. What do you write and
> how do you use writing with a pen along with the use of a word processor.
>

> Mike Sauer


Bernadette Landolf-Fritsche

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Burt Janz wrote:
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> Like the comment about "tattooing cats", tho... I renamed my cat
> "sharkbait". Really pisses off my 15-year old daughter who likes that
> walking carpet fuzz that eats.... heh heh heh :-)

Actually, the comment was "tattooing kittens" not tattooing cats. So,
as the father of a 15-year-old girl, did you also like the poster's
"convert virgins" comment? I found the post rather creepy myself.
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Burt Janz

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Ya gotta pick and choose yer humor... I thought that most of it the post
("tattooing kittens") was rather funny, although I agree with you on that
one comment. We had a cat when I was growing up, and my wife has a cat
today. Although I joke about it, I'd be kinda heartbroken if anything
happened to it... and I'll admit (only this once) that I do stroke it until
it purrs and occasionally give it snackies.

On to pens.

Lessee: I have a Sheaffer desk pen, don't know the model, but it's the old
style one with the 14k nib integrated into the pen body. Model name eludes
me at the moment.

Normally, I walk around with at least 4 pens. Two of them are always a pair
of Cross Solos, one red with red ink, and one blue with blue ink, both fine
nibs, in a leather double-pen case which is normally in my briefcase. A
third pen is in my Daytimer - lately, it's been my Stipula Etruria (which,
after some adjustment, now works really well). I carry my Omas Celluloid
Arco Vermeil in a single-pen leather case in my pocket. Both the Stipula
and Omas have fine nibs, and are loaded with black ink, currently Sheaffer.
I tend to like the Namiki ink also, mainly because it dries *BLACK*, not
grey, and has much the same characteristics as Penman... without the
clogging factor!

I've spent a lot of time trying different pens and different inks on
different paper, and I've found that every pen and ink I've tried bleeds
HORRIBLY on Filofax scheduler refills. Daytimer refills are better, but it
seems like Day-Runner paper takes almost every ink without bleeding or
feathering.

I use fountain pens almost exclusively, including on multi-part forms, for
which I've found that a stiff nibbed pen seems to work. The biggest problem
with multi-part forms is that they use a powder to separate the parts, so I
have to brush off the top page (the one I'm writing on) rather vigorously to
keep from messing up the nib. Yes, I typically use a cheap nibbed pen (like
a Cross Solo or a Pilot Varsity disposable) for those forms.

Tip: I always carry some tissues with me in a zip-lock baggie. That way, I
always have something to wipe off the nib after it gunks up, whatever paper
I'm writing on.

I am a programmer by trade, so I'm constantly writing down notes, comments,
and program trace information. All with a fountain pen. I do crossword
puzzles with fountain pens as well - seems like there's nothing as erudite
as doing a crossword puzzle with a fine nibbed fountain pen while sitting in
a Victorian-style wing chair (my favorite chair in the entire house).

\burt

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j-la...@neiu.edu

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j-la...@neiu.edu () wrote:

>I actually read something in a very old book: People used to write
>letters!! By hand, on paper. Imagine that! Don't tell anyone,
>but I have done it, too. (Maybe some day they'll discover a cure.)

P.S. Can anyone recommend the best kind of inkk to write notes on my
computr monitor?

<innocent blink>


Kenneth Kennerhoff

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I think that Uni Prockey water based Pigment ink would function. It is non
erasable.
But... I can not understand why you really have to do that?. Monitors are
more expensive than paper and after a few notes that monitor is useless for
computing :-)
/kenneth
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RPMPhoto

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>faking Mark McQuire autographs
Probably aren't selling too many, huh?

Those S.O.B.'s at the Mark McGwire stand!!!!

RPMPhoto

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All my class notes are with Fountain Pens Sheaffer Balance M in particular,
filled with the Blue of the week - Waterman Florida, Blue-Black or S. Sea.

I rarely use a ballpoint, my hands are so accustomed to FP's that extended
writing with a BP becomes uncomfortable.

Stangely, when I am working on my novel, I use the FP, and "speak" it in to the
computer. When I write my articles for the papers, or when I do my thesis,I
use the computer. Go figure.

Jason
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Mike Stanger

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I'm a graphic artist. I use my pens for copy writing, drawing, notes to
the boss, impressing clients, whatever. Have a bunch of them, and use
every nib size out there.
Stanger

Mike Stanger

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Me, too. I get paid for it, but usually not on bar tablecloths, unless I
need the quick cash...
Stanger

j-la...@neiu.edu

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"Kenneth Kennerhoff" <Ken...@Kennerhoff.com> wrote:

>I think that Uni Prockey water based Pigment ink would function. It is non
>erasable.
>But... I can not understand why you really have to do that?. Monitors are
>more expensive than paper and after a few notes that monitor is useless for
>computing :-)
>/kenneth

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We're the state government. Equipment is always turning over, and old
ones shipped off to warehouses. I just package up the monitors,
with corrected text, and ship them off to my journal publishers.

;-Q


Jimgaston

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At any given time, I will have at least a doz. vintage pens, from the 1890's up
to new fountain pens. That I use...it seems that each week I "found" another
pen that I love.

This week top on my list is a "no name" eyedropper, and a Sheaffer circa 1920's
with a number #2 "self filling nib".

I know a lot of folks collect and store they pens...for me the joy is the
"hunt" and using my pens. I will let others save their "mint" pens...my choice
is use them and enjoying my fountain pens.

Jim Gaston
http://www.fountain-pens.com


SMSmith007

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In my work as an international hitman for hire I sometimes use an oversize
Sheaffer Balance as a reservoir for ninja poison. There is plenty of room
under the cap for the thread which has to be unrolled and dropped through the
hole in the ceiling. I previously used a Parker 51 (aerometric) for this but
it just doesn't hold enough ninja poison to get the job done. Once in the
Mideast, my poison failed to reach the end of the thread because of low
humidity and inadequate capacity of the 51. And what good is ninja poison if
there's none left to drip on the lips of the mark? <g> Boy, was my face RED
after that one!

Egon Kederer

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Burt Janz schrieb:

> Otherwise... most higher end pens are like jewelry. I use 'em to dress up a

> shirt pocket . .

. . . absolutely a *must* in SEA. Besides the star on the hood of the car
nothing beats the white blob on the top of a pen. Upper-class Bangkokians love
to show off their wealth and even an office clerk has minimum two fake "gold"
ball pens in his shirt pocket.
Egon
(FPs don't work well under tropic climate. They don't like changes in humidity
and temperature by changing from outdoor to AC rooms and v.v.
Especially ink flow of FPs with the white blob is a pain in the ass)


Blaine Jack

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At work (where I masquerade as a management analyst), I usually use my
pens to sign interoffice memos. (I have, in fact, become known around the
office as "he who signs in ink.")
Most of my writing is for my own stuff, not directly work related. I
prefer vintage pens. Looking beside me on the desk (in the holder) is a
couple Parker 51s, a couple Eversharps (Doric and Skyline), a Moore 94, a
Conklin, a Sheaffer touchdown, and a bizarre Eversharp/Parker cartridge
filler...
As for ink, there's a big stack of ink bottles just beyond the pen
holder. Lots of Sheaffer and Parker, some Mont Blanc, Pelikan, and even
Aurora. (Needless to say, my journal is a multicolored wonder to try and
read...)
Looking all of this over, it suddenly dawns on me...Boy, I think these
pens have really taken over my life...
--Blaine


Norman Haase

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Have you tried making use of a Snorkel directly? I forces me to get closer
to the 'mark', but then that's part of the challenge.

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Dale L. Scott

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Well, I'm glad to see I'm not the only one that does this...

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