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Parker Duofold v. M800

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MBMenefee

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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Having to choose between the above two for a daily writer which would it be?
Michael

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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I have both and have used both with regularity; both are great, but the M800
is the best writing pen I have ever used. I don't know if it is the weight,
the balance or the nib, or just me, but it is a writing experience like no
other. And an 18K nib writes noticeably different from a 14K. I've noticed
this between the M800 (standard) and the M800 Green Demontrator (14K). And
the M800 (standard) versus the Duofold. And the Omas Tassili Limited
Edition (18K) versus 14K nibs.

Pelikan is definitely a precision instrument and a writer's pen.

Robert Dilworth

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Jeffrey A. Bourque

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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Without a doubt, the Pelikan 800. I have been using one as a daily
writer for at least 12 years, but maybe closer to 14. It is in
fantastic condition, certainly weathered that time better than I did. I
writes smooth, as smooth today as back then. The piston filling system
holds a lot of ink, and you can see how much you have left. The pen is
beautiful, and a joy to write with.

Get a Pelikan, join the Pelikan Pen Collectors Mailing List (e-mail me
at ad...@mindspring.com) and become one of the Pelikan lovers out there.
However, as a warning, buying one Pelikan usually leads to serial
Pelikan purchasing. I have about 14 Pelikans now in my collection, and
I am considered a Piker by some other Pelikan fans.

Regards,

Jeff

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> Having to choose between the above two for a daily writer which would it be?
> Michael

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MarkH

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Feb 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/17/99
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I'm curious as to the difference between the 14c and 18c point. What
difference do you notice?? Do you attribute this to the gold content
of the point??


MH

On Tue, 16 Feb 1999 22:42:51 -0500, "MindSpring User"
<rdil...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>I have both and have used both with regularity; both are great, but the M800
>is the best writing pen I have ever used. I don't know if it is the weight,
>the balance or the nib, or just me, but it is a writing experience like no
>other. And an 18K nib writes noticeably different from a 14K. I've noticed
>this between the M800 (standard) and the M800 Green Demontrator (14K). And
>the M800 (standard) versus the Duofold. And the Omas Tassili Limited
>Edition (18K) versus 14K nibs.
>
>Pelikan is definitely a precision instrument and a writer's pen.
>
>Robert Dilworth
>
>MBMenefee wrote in message <7adb4k$lk9$1...@camel15.mindspring.com>...

>>Having to choose between the above two for a daily writer which would it
>be?
>>Michael
>>
>>
>

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Michael AuYeung

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Feb 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/17/99
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As far as I know, you really can't tell the difference between a 18K and
a 14K nib. The DESIGN of the nib is far more important... I have a 14K
Moore safety pen from early 1920's and it beats the socks off of any
modern pen today for nib flex.

The Duofold's 18K nib is nowhere near as good as that of the M800 in terms
of performance. I think the M800 is more of a writer's pen, while the
Duofold leans toward "jewelry". If not that, then at least the M800 holds
enough ink for a bout of serious note taking.

Blaine Jack

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Feb 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/20/99
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MBMenefee wrote in message <7adb4k$lk9$1...@camel15.mindspring.com>...
>Having to choose between the above two for a daily writer which would it
be?
>Michael

I don't have an 800, but now use a 600 w/regularity.
The Pelikan is the better writer. And something of a more comfortable
pen.
However, I have to say, you still can't beat the Parker for raw visual
appeal. (I have a jasper model.) And both pens are exceptionally well
made. And the Duofold is a good, smooth writer. My only complaint is that
Parker's newer fine nibs are just too broad for my taste.
I have to say that the Pelikan is one of the few pens that compares
with my cordovan 51. Fine, smooth nib. A wonderful writer.
--Blaine


MBMenefee

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Feb 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/22/99
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How would Waterman's Le Man stand up to the famouse Pelikan M800??
Michael

Jeffrey A. Bourque

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Feb 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/22/99
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First let me state I am biased. Very biased. My favorite modern pen is
the Pelikan Souveran 800. My favorite vintage pen is a Pelikan 500
(well that one and my W-E OS GS PP DB). But, the 800 is one of the most
popular pens for a lot of good reasons.

Piston filling
Ink View
18K nib (two-tone) in a wide range of sizes and styles, and is very smooth
Tradition and longevity
Beauty (I know it is subjective)
Long lasting
Excellent balance between weight and size
Easy interchange of nibs
Pelikan beak clip is cooler than MB Snowflake
Wet writer for long bouts of taking notes without pen drying out
Slightly flexible nib

Given all that I've said, the Le Man is a little harder to compare than
say the Duofold. The Duofold and 800 are made from types of plastic,
while the Le Man is made from lacquer covered brass. There will be a
significant weight difference between the two pens which depending on
what you are used to, will make a difference. For example, if you told
me you loved using your Aurora Optima and were considering either the
Pelikan 800 or the Waterman Le Man, I would definitely steer you to the
800. If however you told me your DuPont Olympio was your favorite pen,
I would suggest the Le Man (with a hint at the 800 as my favorite) since
it would more closely match what you currently like or use.

Part of my bias towards the Pelikan has to do with what I like and use.
I like celluloid type pens for the most part, I like an integral filling
system since I like to use bottled ink. I like to know how much ink I
have left. Now the question becomes which came first the Pelikan or the
egg? Did I like those things first and the Pelikan came naturally since
it met my criteria, or did I like my Pelikan and make it the standard
for other pens. My first two fountain pens we A) a Pelikan 200 in green
marble and B) a Pelikan 800 in green stripe that is currently in my
shirt pocket, and has been my main daily writer for at least 12 to 14
years since I bought it.

BTW, anyone interested in Pelikans and not currently subscribed to the
Pelikan Pen Collectors E-Mail List, e-mail me for details or just say
subscribe in the subject.


Regards,

Jeff

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Feb 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/22/99
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In article <7arn54$9go$1...@camel21.mindspring.com>,

"MBMenefee" <michael...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> How would Waterman's Le Man stand up to the famouse Pelikan M800??
> Michael
>
>

That gets a bit tougher than the 800/Modern Duofold question. The 100 is one
fantastic fountain pen. It's big, beautiful, writes flawlessly, has history,
all the things I look for in a pen. Differences, the 100 is heavier than the
800 due to construction (brass v plastic) but the balance is such that it
never feels heavy (like the Townsend) in hand. I love them both but I must
admit that it is easier to throw a couple cartridges in my pocket when going
on a trip than to carry the bottle or even my travel pot.

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Howard Appel

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Feb 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/23/99
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