1015 Bubble Tubes?
ODJennings
through the Victory Glass and Jukebox Junction catalogs I notice that both
claim to have the best replacement tubes.
Are there really two different suppliers or are they the same, and can anyone
recommend buying one over the other? (my problem is the fit on the uppers--the
set I have now is too big to fit properly, but I bought the box with them so I
don't know who made them).
Thanks
Skipmc
with the performance, but like you the fit wasn't exactly perfect.
2 months ago I bought a set from Victory Glass. Basically the same
problem. On one of the new straight tubes it's so long that it hits the
heat resister above it. Also the Victory Glass tubes were more orange
than Jukebox Junction's.
I also bought a new set of plastics from Victory Glass and had to play
with them to get a good fit. Although I think that is expected anyway.
The 2 lower curved pieces had to be drastically trimmed to fit.
Sorry I can't answer any other questions. I'll be interested to see if
any other comments from the group turn up.
John Robertson
heard over the years) so either supplier will get you the same tube.
If the tube doesn't fit, it might be that the tube has not slid far
enough into the resistor. It should sink in enough that the neck is
just above the top of the resistor.
As for plastics fitting when you get them, they are purposely made too
large so that they get trimmed to fit the machine, each 1015 is a bit
different in shape after this many years, and you will find that a set
of plastics from one might not fit another-leaving gaps or being too
tight. Using a pair of sheet metal shears works very well for trimming
to fit, always cut a bit less than you think you need and there are
faint guide lines to follow (cut outside the guide lines!!!) then test
fit and start the fine trimming.
John :-#)#
On 12 Nov 2000 16:47:11 GMT, odjen...@aol.com (ODJennings) wrote:
>I'm not happy with the fit of my current 1015 bubble tubes, and when I read
>through the Victory Glass and Jukebox Junction catalogs I notice that both
>claim to have the best replacement tubes.
>
>Are there really two different suppliers or are they the same, and can anyone
>recommend buying one over the other? (my problem is the fit on the uppers--the
>set I have now is too big to fit properly, but I bought the box with them so I
>don't know who made them).
>
>Thanks
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were resoteed in the early eighties, and the top wher the tubes are
sealed had an uneven look, and the glass had black spots. Both had
several tubes that had blown, so we had to put both new tubes and
plastics in (plastics gets wasted with the fluid from the bubble tubes).
Never had a problem with the bubble tubes I bought from Victory or
Junction since 1985 or so. But yes, both plastics and tubes can take a
little time to get mounted just right. A common thing with
reproductions, and perhaps to be expected? Like, why are the notches on
the Trashcan red plastics in the wrong places - would be better with no
notches, so I could make them myself!
I've asked before about the quality of OMT bubble tubes, since those
seem to blow quite often. Haven't gotten a satisfactory answer yet :0)
dr Jens
Tony Miklos
since they contain that deadly fluid? Just how deadly is that stuff
anyway? What do you do with the old (poison) tubes if you replace them?
I think we need to hear from someone who was around when those bubble
christmas tree lights were made illegal to sell.
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carcinogen. Don't let it get on you!, as for the liquid, it is a low
boiling point organic solvent. Methylene Chloride I believe. A bit
nasty but not too toxic in a well ventilated place. again a potential
hazard so be careful!
John :-#)#
On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 02:46:36 +0100, Jens Hultgren
<drju...@algonet.se> wrote:
>Ha! I don't think they'll kill ya, but they may put you to sleep, since
>they contain some kind of ether (low boiling pont).
> I just dump mine, if they have changed colour.
> Now, if you cut yourself on a neon or flourescent light, there is a
>slight chance of poisoning.
> drj
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Jens Hultgren
Jens Hultgren
Had to look around for the correct info - suggestions around the net go
from alcohol to formaldehyde to various ethers.
Check http://www.oldchristmaslights.com/1940-1950%20Page%203.htm
"Yule-Glo" xmas lights - never heard of them before (probably never
sold over here). Btw, methylene chloride is the same as Freon (TM), so
they must be using something else now??
Those bubble tube xmas lights look neato - take a look at
http://www.concentric.net/~Gashepar/blbulb.html
Can I buy these at Walmart? I see they're still being made.
Also, I know that the Magic-Glo bubble tubes were used in advertising
and for various displays, but the xmas lights I didn't know about. Any
other neat applications you know of?
Freon is mildly toxic, but may cause a climate change, and so should
be disposed of properly...I doubt the bubble tubes will cause cancer
among us, unless we handle broken ones on a daily basis.
Jens
Tony Miklos
>
> Actually the colouring agent in the old bubble tubes seems to be a
> carcinogen. Don't let it get on you!, as for the liquid, it is a low
> boiling point organic solvent. Methylene Chloride I believe. A bit
> nasty but not too toxic in a well ventilated place. again a potential
> hazard so be careful!
I've heard all types of stories about those tubes. Is that why they
banned those little bubbling christmas lights in the 40's or 50's. (I'm
not saying that you were around then John)
--
Tony
Jay Hennigan
:John, you're right - again! :)
:Had to look around for the correct info - suggestions around the net go
:from alcohol to formaldehyde to various ethers.
:Check http://www.oldchristmaslights.com/1940-1950%20Page%203.htm
:
:"Yule-Glo" xmas lights - never heard of them before (probably never
:sold over here). Btw, methylene chloride is the same as Freon (TM), so
:they must be using something else now??
Actually, methylene chloride is not related to Freon. Methylene Chloride
is the active ingredient in the more aggressive forms of paint remover.
Pretty nasty stuff, and that's why when a bubble tube breaks it usually
destroys the finish on the adjacent plastic part.
Any substance with a boiling point slightly above room temperature would
work, with varying degrees of hazard depending on the particular chemical.
Freons would be a good choice as they're stable (too stable according to
the ozone-hole folks) non-flammable, and relatively non-toxic. Ether and
various alcohols could also work. I've always wondered how thet seal the
tip of the tube with a torch when it's filled with liquid, especially one
that could be flammable.
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Jay Hennigan wrote:
>
> :
> :"Yule-Glo" xmas lights - never heard of them before (probably never
> :sold over here). Btw, methylene chloride is the same as Freon (TM), so
> :they must be using something else now??
>
> Actually, methylene chloride is not related to Freon.
Ok, then the above site was only half right :/
> Methylene Chloride
> is the active ingredient in the more aggressive forms of paint remover.
> Pretty nasty stuff, and that's why when a bubble tube breaks it usually
> destroys the finish on the adjacent plastic part.
>
> Any substance with a boiling point slightly above room temperature would
> work, with varying degrees of hazard depending on the particular chemical.
> Freons would be a good choice as they're stable (too stable according to
> the ozone-hole folks) non-flammable, and relatively non-toxic. Ether and
> various alcohols could also work. I've always wondered how thet seal the
> tip of the tube with a torch when it's filled with liquid, especially one
> that could be flammable.
I remember from chemistry classes that ether can become explosive when
exposed to UV light. I guess they have always used methylene chloride
for bubble tubes.
Do you know if the Yule-Glo lights are still available anywhere? Would
make a neat addition to the 1015 for xmas.
Jens
>
John Robertson
(this was before Victory had started production) and I took an old one
to our local university and had them analyze the liquid. That's where
I found out about the danger of the colouring agent. I have no idea
what is now used, I hope it is safer...
John :-#)#
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Gary Ludwick
several years now. Email me if you're interested and I will forward info.
Gary