Exclusives: An Economic View
Bret Wiersbe
isn't fair that US exclusives are so inexpensive on the secondary market
compared to other countries and how trade ratios are unfair. But is it
unfair? Not really. Go to a newsstand and look at a magazine. Any
magazine. George, put down that Playboy! Look at the price. Oh my
gosh! This magazine costs $5.95! Oh wait - no it doesn't. It's only
$3.95. I was looking at the Canadian price! Or was that British
pounds? Regardless, the US economy is strong and prices are lower here
than in other countries. Hence, products are more attainable. Ever
been to the DMV only to waste half your Saturday waiting for service?
Imagine it being like that everywhere you go! That's how it is in
Russia. Look at the Beanie Market as a microcosm of our economy and
your questions and concerns about exclusives will be answered. So don't
blame Ty, and PLEASE don't blame each other! It's just the way our
economies differ and exclusives will never have equal value - just like
that magazine!
Happy Independence Day, my fellow Americans!
GMAN
Hip Hip Hooray.....Hip Hip Hooray!!!.......Hip Hip Hooray!!......your
nothing more then an ass kisser pal!
LOL!
Goman
"Bret Wiersbe" <bretw...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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JS
like 3.00 to make up the difference of the beanie. I mean it doesnt even
make since what you just said. So your saying just because it cost like 3.00
more in US money in Europe to buy a beanie it should make yalls exclusive
worth 50.00 more then ours. Could you maybe clarify that for me. And also
half of the people who live in Europe and Canada say they have to buy 15 or
16 beanies just to be able to purchase one Britania. And thats why they say
they have such high prices well all that they have to do is report to ty
about this and then they will give that store a warning and check with them
every month just to make sure they arent selling then for any higher.
Tanya Roche (Atwood)
store here???? Yes, they were reported to namenames and I posted it a couple
times on the board just in hopes. Nothing, Nada, Zip!
Ainsley (Aubskey - Akachan)
Your ideas are just that, very idealistic, unfortunately, collecting beanies
is never going to have a "Beanie Utopia" feel to it.
Ainsley
JS wrote in message <396048EE...@company.com>...
Chris Paré
vary so much in price. It all comes down to "supply and demand".
Let's look at a few scenarios...
Firstly, the Maple Bear. She's a Canadian Exclusive and currently worth
from $80 to $125 USD (with the mean being $105 USD). Why? Because they are
rare and demand is high! There aren't that many of them where you'll find
someone owning five for trade.
Another Exclusive, the Britania Bear, is worth between $75 to $100 USD (with
the mean being $87 USD). Why the less value? Demand is starting to drop
even though the supply is still low.
Now let's look at the American Exclusives.
The USA Bear is new to the market. Supply seems to high as everyone has
multiples of them. Even with a high demand, high supply keeps the price low
with it's value between $5 to $40 USD (with the mean being $23 USD).
Let's look at Righty the Elephant, Lefty the Donkey, and Libearty the
American Bear, (all American Exclusives). Righty is worth between 150 to
$200 USD (with the mean being $185), Lefty the Donkey is worth between $200
to $400 USD (with the mean being $325 USD), and Libearty is worth between
$160 to $365 USD (with the mean being $275 USD). Supply is very low on
these and the demand is still extremely high and; therefore, the higher
prices.
Now back to the 1:1, 1:2, or 2:1 Exclusive Beanie trading arguement and the
so-called devalued American Exclusives. I'm sure there wouldn't be anyone
one who would trade at any of the above mentioned ratios for in trading a
Lefty for a Maple or Britania and the same would hold true for trading a
Britania or Maple for USA Bears. Would you think owners of the American
Exclusives Righty, Lefty, or Libearty would trade 1:1 or 2:1 for the USA
Bear? I think not and yet they are all "Exclusives". So, where's the
argument for trading Exclusives? Trading a Maple or Britania Bear for a USA
Bear just wouldn't sit right in my books and it shouldn't for anyone else.
It all comes down to "Supply and Demand". Ty Inc. has got this figured out
to a "T" and the reason for it's success. It's all in the economics of
things.
ChrisP4U
"Bret Wiersbe" <bretw...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Bret Wiersbe
Canada. The "supply and demand" theory is good, but isn't sound for one reason:
Ty never releases production numbers. Nobody knows how many Britannias, Maples,
Germanias, and Sakuras were produced.
Spidey~
<chris...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Chris,
We've been saying that for a long time but several people fail to see
your very valid points! But keep trying maybe one day it'll set it.
Linda
JS
person who takes care of the problem of warning them is your ty rep. About three
months ago we knew our ty rep was buying the beanies from the stores so he could
sell them so what we did is wwe emailed ty and marybeth and asked them to do an
investigation on it and about 3 weeks later a new ty rep was here and the
secondary prices stopped
"Tanya Roche (Atwood)" wrote:
> Really? Hmmmm. Wonder why it didn't work when I reported our infamous bundling
> store here???? Yes, they were reported to namenames and I posted it a couple
> times on the board just in hopes. Nothing, Nada, Zip!
>
> JS wrote:
>
> > I so dont agree. You could either give like say Canada a US exclusive and
> > like 3.00 to make up the difference of the beanie. I mean it doesnt even
> > make since what you just said. So your saying just because it cost like 3.00
> > more in US money in Europe to buy a beanie it should make yalls exclusive
> > worth 50.00 more then ours. Could you maybe clarify that for me. And also
> > half of the people who live in Europe and Canada say they have to buy 15 or
> > 16 beanies just to be able to purchase one Britania. And thats why they say
> > they have such high prices well all that they have to do is report to ty
> > about this and then they will give that store a warning and check with them
> > every month just to make sure they arent selling then for any higher.
> >
> > Bret Wiersbe wrote:
> >
JS
"Chris Paré" wrote:
G Mendias
a retailer can price a beanie as they wish.
Spidey~ wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Jul 2000 03:41:42 GMT, Diane N <dpno...@nospamnetcom.ca>
> wrote:
>
> They just don't give a shit Diane! The Ty rep was at a store for
> those ugly beanie kid drawings and prices were posted. $39.99 for
> Princess beanie!! $129.95 for Maple beanie, did the rep do anything ?
> Hell no, she probably encourages that too.
>
> Linda
>
> >That's wonderful that by reporting it something was done about it, but,
> >it still comes down to the fact you are in the US and under
> >TY US rules, not TY Canada or Uk or Japan, etc.
> >
> >I've reported license plate numbers of vehicles that I saw
> >backdoor purchasing from a store that I happened to just be
> >going into to see if they had any new shipments. Boxes were
> >flowing out the door. Did TY Canada do anything. Nada.
> >
> >Diane
> > JS <N...@company.com> writes:
> >> Well I reported three stores here in Houston TX and they took care of it. Also the
> >> person who takes care of the problem of warning them is your ty rep. About three
> >> months ago we knew our ty rep was buying the beanies from the stores so he could
> >> sell them so what we did is wwe emailed ty and marybeth and asked them to do an
> >> investigation on it and about 3 weeks later a new ty rep was here and the
> >> secondary prices stopped
> >>
> >> "Tanya Roche (Atwood)" wrote:
> >>
> >> > Really? Hmmmm. Wonder why it didn't work when I reported our infamous bundling
> >> > store here???? Yes, they were reported to namenames and I posted it a couple
> >> > times on the board just in hopes. Nothing, Nada, Zip!
> >> >
> >> > JS wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I so dont agree. You could either give like say Canada a US exclusive and
> >> > > like 3.00 to make up the difference of the beanie. I mean it doesnt even
> >> > > make since what you just said. So your saying just because it cost like 3.00
> >> > > more in US money in Europe to buy a beanie it should make yalls exclusive
> >> > > worth 50.00 more then ours. Could you maybe clarify that for me. And also
> >> > > half of the people who live in Europe and Canada say they have to buy 15 or
> >> > > 16 beanies just to be able to purchase one Britania. And thats why they say
> >> > > they have such high prices well all that they have to do is report to ty
> >> > > about this and then they will give that store a warning and check with them
> >> > > every month just to make sure they arent selling then for any higher.
> >> > >
> >> > > Bret Wiersbe wrote:
> >> > >
G Mendias
y'all. I remember a while back when UK posters were posting that it had ceased over there, and
I remember Cads saying they hoped it would in Canada too. Apparently not, but as for this Ty
US/CAN/UK/JP rules stuff, I called my Ty rep friend they all have the same policies, NOW
wether or not a countries rep actually follows the rules or not is one thing, and as greedy as
your retailers seem, I wouldn't doubt that the Cad Ty Reps are greedy too and are taking kick
backs for letting the retailers do as they want. That was happening here in the states for a
bit and Ty finally got all the info needed to fire over half their reps.
Diane N wrote:
> Linda mentioned a few retired ones but I would suspect the currents
> were overpriced too.
>
> Diane
Spidey~
wrote:
Well I've never seen a Canadian contract before, but they do that with
currents too. Ariel and Beginning are selling for $24.95 at that
particular store.
Linda
Spidey~
wrote:
Gary, in the Montreal area, it had temporarily stopped and then they
started selling those 20 5 x 5 as they were delivered, so for someone
who just wants the bears such as "moi", well I had to buy all of them.
That was fine because I knew that I could easily get rid of the others
since it was so soon after they came out.
But now, I wouldn't buy a set of 5. Now I gues they'll do that with
these new ones that come out and none appeal to me other than the bear
or are there 2 bears, anyways. I guess I'll be visiting Ebay on that
one because I'm not about to buy 10 or 15 beanies just to get the
bear.
I don't mind having to buy a whole bunch for a Maple if I'm desperate,
but this is not an exclusive and I'm not desperate.
I'd like to see a Canadian Ty contract to see what it says about
bundling, but I'm sure that they're allowed to do it since Ty Canada
bundles when they sell to the retailers which really bites.
Linda
>You know Diane, I was really hoping all that bundling and over priced crap had ended for
>y'all. I remember a while back when UK posters were posting that it had ceased over there, and
>I remember Cads saying they hoped it would in Canada too. Apparently not, but as for this Ty
>US/CAN/UK/JP rules stuff, I called my Ty rep friend they all have the same policies, NOW
>wether or not a countries rep actually follows the rules or not is one thing, and as greedy as
>your retailers seem, I wouldn't doubt that the Cad Ty Reps are greedy too and are taking kick
>backs for letting the retailers do as they want. That was happening here in the states for a
>bit and Ty finally got all the info needed to fire over half their reps.
>
>Diane N wrote:
>
>> Linda mentioned a few retired ones but I would suspect the currents
>> were overpriced too.
>>
>> Diane
>> G Mendias <gmen...@swbell.net> writes:
Tinkerbell
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"JS" <N...@company.com> wrote in message news:39613BEA...@company.com...
Tinkerbell
one of these threads...we don't have an exclusive right now. It'll go back
to normal when we do I bet.
--
June
Goddess, and Flippant She-Creature
"G Mendias" <gmen...@swbell.net> wrote in message
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Diane N
Di
lmu...@videotron.ca (Spidey~) writes:
> On Tue, 04 Jul 2000 05:11:29 GMT, Diane N <dpno...@nospamnetcom.ca>
> wrote:
>
> Yup it sucks. What this a Hallmark?
>
> Linda
>
>
>
> >As I mentioned in an earlier post, I've provided license plate
> >numbers to TY Canada as I watched the boxes being loaded. Nothing
> >was ever done. The store goes on its merry way of overpricing
> >and/or ratios and it's over a year later.
> >
> >How much more info can you give them. Get names of the parties
> >involved by way of intercepting as it was happening. I may be
> >'outspoken' but I'm not stupid to intercept 3 idiots in a
> >mall parking lot.
Suzie Taylor
Who wants my beanies ........loads of old stuff.........
WWW has loads too........
Hope you are keeping Ok Juney wooney ......
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Spidey~
wrote:
Okay. Gosh I'm at a loss for words. I'm going to watch some tv.
13 posts, gees it's sure quiet.
Linda
>No it wasn't Hallmark but another chain that carried TY
>
>Di
>lmu...@videotron.ca (Spidey~) writes:
>> On Tue, 04 Jul 2000 05:11:29 GMT, Diane N <dpno...@nospamnetcom.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yup it sucks. What this a Hallmark?
>>
>> Linda
>>
>>
>>
>> >As I mentioned in an earlier post, I've provided license plate
>> >numbers to TY Canada as I watched the boxes being loaded. Nothing
>> >was ever done. The store goes on its merry way of overpricing
>> >and/or ratios and it's over a year later.
>> >
>> >How much more info can you give them. Get names of the parties
>> >involved by way of intercepting as it was happening. I may be
>> >'outspoken' but I'm not stupid to intercept 3 idiots in a
>> >mall parking lot.
>> >
Spidey~
I just wanted to tell everyone that I got my refund today in the form
of a money order. So all ends well.
Thanks for everyone's advice.
Linda
Diane N
I just watched one from Boston. Excellent!!!! My wish -- that I
could be there.
Diane
Spidey~
wrote:
Do you mean on TV or you can actually see fireworks from where you
live? If so, you must live awfully close to the border.
Linda
Diane N
Tinkerbell
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