JAMES SPENCE BUSTED!!!!
sammerj...@gmail.com
he looked at them for exactly 3 seconds authenticated it and then was
showed the footage of what really happended. HE GOT BUSTED BIG TIME.
PSA is the only true authenticator out the. See www.myfoxchicago.com
for more on this!
barefoot
sure they can do this with every authentication company out
there...GAI disappeared...it's bad.
m
sammerj...@gmail.com
You should have seen this one. They even said to James Spence can you
authicate this I'm for sure it's fake. And he authenticated it.
sammerj...@gmail.com
here is a link to the story:
http://stricklerautographs.blogspot.com/2007/11/more-bad-news-for-jsa.html
Mr Black
MrB
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Sue H
Nobody is foolproof. As for someone looking for 3 seconds, sometimes
you actually CAN look at something for that long and know. Write your
name. Now, go to anyone and show them your signature for a minute and
take it away. Now ask them to write your name as you would. Someone
who is not an experienced forger will not be able to do well at it.
Especially if they don't do it over and over and over. Those are easy
to tell a mile away.
I don't know these people. What link on that site is it on? I didn't
see the story.
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:09:01 -0800 (PST), sammerj...@gmail.com
wrote:
Sue H
first one). It sounds like these people did not have any exemplars
with them and just looked at the sig? You could never trust that!
Very interesting. Which brings me to others who authenticate... how
do they do it?
If I were a service (never would do that; it's too iffy of a field).
I'd 1) have a few known in person and licensed sigs with me to
compare. 2) have a second opinion person there to back me 3) be asking
questions on a questionnaire before I even looked at the photo or
item. 4) I'd put a disclaimer saying nothing is for sure, and that
all "guesses" are just educated guesses based on the items above and
to my best ability.
I guess if you have ANY business, you need to get off your high horse
(it seems as some of the authenticators think too highly of
themselves) and do things methodically, like a good business and as
scientifically as you can with what you have available. It appears to
me, that most people who authenticate for money don't do as much as
they can. SAD.
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:19:25 -0800 (PST), sammerj...@gmail.com
wrote:
chip1057
Autographs for one,
and many others. I'd rather pay them than the PSA people.
Chip
On Nov 19, 2:25 am, "Mr Black"
<mr_bl...@REMOVESPAMBLOCKoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
> psa, jsa, gai....same sh!t different smell.
>
> MrB
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barefoot
sure that you can have this exact same thing happen at any
authentication house...reguardless of conflicts of interest etc..it
could happen everywhere...psa dna has had high profile screw
ups...spence worked with psa when that happened. and he started psa
dna...
even having a true forensic investigator couldn't control the amounts
of stuff that goes through any one of these companies...
m
sammerj...@gmail.com
I posted a link so you can watch the story. If you watch, the
signatures aren't even close and he never really looks at the
autographs. Watch the video here:
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=9AAD5BF8A85286C15DB83F50805F91EC?contentId=4976451&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1
Sue H
first time eh? And they didn't ask questions, look up facsimiles;
nothing! That is why authentication is not the business to get into.
But again, even most of us could run a business doing that better
than them! Now that's pathetic.
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:01:27 -0800 (PST), sammerj...@gmail.com
wrote:
barefoot
authenticating smaller people like sal bando, where no one cares and
his autograph has little or no value...it's spence's fault that he had
no exemplars, he shouldn't have authenticated the stuff and he
shouldn't have accepted the money. he should have said that he has no
exemplars and therefore couldn't authenticate it...and all the
authentication houses could've been caught just like this.. this one
just popped up on tv now...
it also shows a general fear that the collecting public has with
autographs in general. that everyone worries about authenticity to the
point as to ONLY trust an authenticators word, and not just he
dealer's any longer. in one sense, people should only be dealing with
people they KNOW and trust. but even that has proven fruitless. there
are people out there trusting forgers...
but the show really pounds home the point that you can't trust
anybody.
m
Gummby3
--
snothead
of people staying on topic and talking about autographs !!
snot
Mr Black
"Gummby3" <gum...@consolidated.net> wrote in message news:5hG0j.40388$G23...@newsreading01.news.tds.net...
barefoot
he was one of my dad's favorite players..
but he does shows for $5...which means his autograph carries little or
no value, and taking his autograph to anyone for authentication would
pretty much cost you more than the signature is worth...
i'm imagining that it's you folks who need to quit reading so much
into a comment and see the thing as a whole. there was no gospel
implied IN ANY WAY...you just want to see it that way. i'm imagining a
bunch of "glass is half empty" people...
i'm not starting an argument...just stating the obvious...there was a
whole thing here...
anyway, what's the point...i could have said a lot more...but it's
ludicruous to believe that anyone would regard anything else...
but it's pretty idiotic to see the "gospel" thing...just like the
thing when i asked simply "who's the cards certified by?"
i guess arguing with sue has had some effect...because i don't make
those comments, you just read them that way.
m
Sue H
Gummby3
> he was one of my dad's favorite players..
> but he does shows for $5...which means his autograph carries little or
> no value, and taking his autograph to anyone for authentication would
> pretty much cost you more than the signature is worth...
> i'm imagining that it's you folks who need to quit reading so much
> into a comment and see the thing as a whole. there was no gospel
> implied IN ANY WAY...you just want to see it that way. i'm imagining a
> bunch of "glass is half empty" people..
barefoot
resale...in fact...i'm pretty sure i have a larger collection than
just about every person here...but for only one reason, more
opporitunity.
and like i said, this arguing with sue must've gotten to people to
think that everytime i say something, there's ulterior (sp?)
motive...there really isn't.
i do agree with you that a totally true collector doesn't care about
value...it's mostly true. there are no memories associated with
purchasing an autograph. unless it's from a "i saw him play once" type
of memory and something that adds to the memory.
and i do understand that you were trying to keep up the "niceness"
factor, and i held my tongue..but like i said, if you had never seen
the arguments that me and sue have (she has no couth, she's a sour
person in general) you wouldn't have read the comment as mean, but
more as an example. it truly is a valueless autograph to use in this
type of arrangement (the jim spence getting busted thing) and to
further note that it was just an example, i put why. because every one
of the authentication houses woudn't have exemplars for what would
seem to be an unnecessary resource. i further went in that i would be
willing to bet that every authentication house would have been
"caught" in this instance because of the no exemplar thing. and i said
that because of this, spence's people should have just simply said "we
don't have an exemplar for this and can not authenticate this one way
or another." but been the good sport and given the people their money
back. but greed set in and they thought that it was a simple thing and
that because sal bando is a valueless autograph, no one would bother
to forge a $5 autograph.
but like i said, since i fight with sue (because i'm the only one who
will stand up to her controlling ass!!!) you stopped at the comment
thinking i'm trying to make a dig at someone. which i wasn't. and
that's where the problem lies.
sue's lied and argued with me so much, that it permeates on stuff that
is a REAL help or a really good item. i guess i should just stop
arguing with her lying ass...
i do apologize for whatever misgivings the posts have made at you, or
if you think i was making a dig at someone...but i really wasn't..and
i do appreciate your help and the positive comments.
m
snothead
swings a ladder hits Sue in the back while Gummby gets a bucket of
paint dumped on his head !!!
snot
barefoot
life!!!
other than that, i mean no foul.
m
sammerj...@gmail.com
lets all be friends here. it's the holidays. lets all put the past
in the past. we are all here cause we love the autograph hobby. sue
you make great posts and so does barefoot. both of you in one way or
another made the hobby of autographs so much more fun for me. thank
you both and everyone else who has made posts. lets just make peace
for holiday season.
barefoot
ever. she doesn't help collectors...she hinders them. she tells them
they have no idea what they are talking about and talks down to
everyone. she lies..
i hope someone spit in her her turkey.
m
barefoot
the best boy grip was on empire strikes back.
or, unless you want a bunch of false friends who will email you at a
moment's notice, but they are all sue...
hope someone spits on her turkey.
m
Sue H
tried this myself. He can't learn and doesn't seem to want to.
Either that or he's totally clueless. But everyone here has tried a
million times to give him constructive criticism and he either doesn't
want it or can't get it. Either way, after all this time, I fear this
is in vain. Good luck though.
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:47:05 GMT, "Gummby3" <gum...@consolidated.net>
wrote:
Sue H
Mike and I am telling you now if you persist, I'll take it to another
level. What you are not getting, is people are sick of you because
your personality and writing style sucks. You have nothing good to
add; you are nasty to people and you think you are better than
everyone else. NOBODY appreciates that behavior.
Sue H
point, I will have to deal with this after my other crap, but make no
mistake, you have gone over the line here and I will definately deal
with this.
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:11:49 -0800 (PST), barefoot
<baref...@comcast.net> wrote:
barefoot
TO THE NEXT LEVEL..HURRY UP...because you lie constantly, and i'm
pretty sure, the next level would be for me to level slander charges
against you...and i haven't done that...you are a loser and everyone
hates you...how does that song go? go eat some worms...
what you don't seem to get, NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY....NO
ONE...please tell us more about your imaginary friends.
m
Sue H
BETTER. Worst of all, is you keep bringing names up (not just me
either) in other arguments you have. I for one am sick of your crap.
You DO mean foul... you are the overaged male living in the parents
basement going to school for many many years because you can't hold a
job. You have no friends which is why you spend all your time on this
group. You are on here all times of the day and every day which makes
me believe you are even lying about school. You harrass everyone.
you act "superior" because in fact you feel inferior. You know you
are otherwise you'd BE something other than a nasty person.
Gummby3
get autographs for the purpose of selling them. Unless I just missed it, I
have never read that you even fathomed the idea of a personal collection.
Your posts have always seemed to come across as an IP accumulator/reseller
only. Maybe if you started posting along a collector's POV, then maybe that
would help with how you're perceived here.
As for Sue, I have not mentioned her in either of the last two messages
addressed to you in the group. I am an individual and base my posts on my
own thoughts and/or opinions and in response to messages posted within the
group. I felt that your post was a blanket statement and said so. Neither
Sue nor anyone else is holding my hand letting me know what to type. I do
agree that both of you need to bring your pissing contest to an end. It's
detrimental to the group and for any chance of it rising above what the
group is capable of right now.
It has been stated by many on here that you and Sue only agree on
disagreeing. You perceive Sue's posts as being controlling. Sue perceives
your posts as being the end-all/be-all of discussions. Maybe both of you
need to alter your individual post content.
*Sue, your efforts of trying to help new collectors is admirable. With that
said, neither of us (I'm assuming in your case) had people right there to
hold our hands in the beginning. I know that I had to get some burns and
bloody noses in learning the ropes of the hobby. I did get help as time
went on, but I sought it out. In return, that's why I created my site to
return the favor. Even then, the collectors come to me to seek out the
help.
*Mike, you honestly need to stop making broad blanket statements as if they
are fact. That is the biggest bur in my saddle. Altering your approach
would help. Instead of saying "nobody likes him", you can say "I personally
don't think he's worth it" or "his autograph is worthless", say "his
autograph would really only have value to fans". It's not that difficult to
use tact. I honestly feel that a good amount of the disagreements would not
be here if your messages did not appear to come across as total fact instead
of that of assistance and general discussion.
Finally, you are completely mistaken about the memories aspect. A true
collector does not buy an autograph just because it's there. There has to
be at least some small aspect to the autograph that attracts a person to it.
A celeb was on a favorite TV show, starred in a favorite movie, sang a great
song or was an athlete on a favorite team or made history. Otherwise, these
people are nothing more than an autograph hounds trying to add just another
bone to his/her dish. That is NOT a true collector. That is nothing more
than an amasser. Buying it just because it's there is not collecting. It
is gobbling up items in the slim chance that it might go up in value. Buy
stocks instead.
--
Mike
Gummby3
-= Star Collector =-
www.star-collector.net
"barefoot" <baref...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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barefoot
are so right all the time...how i'm dangerous to the hobby etc.
etc...same rhetoric you've been pouting for 2 years...
your only other choice IS TO LEAVE THE GROUP FOREVER.. no one listens
to you anyway...all your friends can email you on the other sites you
post on, since i'm banned from all of them and you know for sure that
there's tons of groups i've been banned from.
like i said, the only "higher power" we can take this too is that i
level a slander case against you..i'm pretty sure there are enough
posts where you've called me a forger or quoted that i'm dangerous,
that i could probably warrant a case. i don't know for sure, i'm not a
lawyer (but i'm sure you will claim that i have said i am.)
hope someone spits on your turkey.
but i'm pretty sure i've never said anything that could get me into
trouble (again, i'll bet one of your imaginary friends with the fake
ip's will attest that i have)...do you plan on bringing them into
court with you? do you have tea parties with mr unicorn too? i'll bet
those are credible witnesses.
have a wonderful holiday...this is what you get for posting something
NASTY every time i say something...and it's gonna get worse...i've got
you crying at home, and this is when i pound it in.
m
barefoot
i'll stop, i'll stop right now and leave you alone...
but you NEVER post against one of my posts again..and i mean
NEVER...you read em, let em go or whatever...but NEVER post again..
i don't ask that you leave the group...but you've put VERY SLANDEROUS
remarks about me over the past 2 years...you've lied constantly and
lie more and more when i call you out for something you do
everyday..so you want it to end...STFU! you know what that means...
i don't ever want to really read a post from you, but at the same
time, i'm not one to tell you what to do with your time.
keep your comments to yourself...you are the one who states opinions
as fact...but i don't point out every flaw you have..
so this is your one and only opporitunity to let it end...i got
nothing to do till christmas and it WILL get worse...you'll really
want to come out here and either beat me with a hammer or kill
yourself (and no, i'm not asking you to do either)...because i've said
nothing that would warrant any kind of courts or suspension from aol
etc..
so, just to say it one more time...you NEVER post against me ever
again, i won't say anything more bad about you. i'll stop talking
about you and it'll be like you never existed..because, after looking
at the post the other day where you can find out who posts what,
where, there's lots of interesting stuff of you doing the exact same
thing that you've tried to do to me. just i don't quit..
have a nasty holiday...hope someone spits in your turkey...but you
better seriously consider my offer.
m
Sue H
Not that I have to justify to you. I've continually answered every
email I get about everything from addresses to if something is a
forgery or how to. I've emailed photos to people, given them leads,
tips and everything else under the sun. So don't be lying about that.
What have YOU done eh? Other than be snarky with people for no
reason.
Gee, that last statement brought to mind the kids I see in the
playground...
Sue H
great spot to possibly do so... the lower people are the ones you get
the best info from, the cooler graphs from, the favors from...
Gee, you know, some of the best secrets about collecting are what I
know. Of course Barefoot is the one to turn you off from this, but in
the honest truth about it all, if you listen to him, you miss all the
good ideas. Go with his believe in harrassing celebs in person and
that's all you can do. He doesn't believe ttm collecting is "real".
He scoffs at the industry and only wants the Alist celebs because
that's where the money is. He's a hypocrite to even be on this board
because that's not what this group is all about. This group is about
VARIED collecting and for people to RESPECT each other. He shows NO
respect for anyone.
I am at 1300 different Star Wars signatures in my collection; many are
lower people (don't think I have any Best Boys though sorry Barefoot
and oh, no janitors either). But I have tons of letters and cool
items (call sheets, celeb invites, scripts, disks, videos, CD's,
shirts, etc) that came from these "lowly" people. By the way, I
RESPECT them. Without them, your A-list celebs would be NOTHING.
They make them look good all around from costumes to makeup and
lighting and editing and directing. Some of my all time FAVORITE
graphs are from these people.
So there you have it in a nutshell. My "no information" or "help" to
others vs. his what? Do tell. NOTHING but trouble making.
Sue H
Sue H
need to do that. I have other ways.
Sue H
on here, I'll keep telling people there's poison. You watch what YOU
say and you'll never have a problem. But the problem is, you can't
control yourself. You'll butt in where nobody asked, you'll make
those blanket/emphatic statements like you always do and think you
know everything. If you can control your nastiness, I'll shut up but
you can't. So I guess we'll be the last two on this group (or
elsewhere) left when we're old. Sad I know. But I will NEVER let you
control me or get away with your crap to hurt this hobby. Even if I
have to be the martyr. I just don't care.
barefoot
do is refer to your site and comment on everyone...all you really do
is take what i have said, put them in your context and regurgitated
them...i gave you an offer...if not taken, that'sfine...it's gonna get
worse...we don't just disagree...YOU LIE ABOUT ME...and not only do
you lie and NOT back it up, you keep making up new things. and you
told me via email that you had someone that asked you if what they
were looking at (i'm assuming they were purchasing) was from
me...there's no way that's possible...for starters you don't have any
friends...but please, keep telling me about your imaginary ones..
as for gummby...
i do totally agree with you on the points about me. seriously...i do
think though, that making the statement about sal bando the way i said
it, is the only way to make that statement and have it mean what it's
intended within the context of the subject at hand (did i really say
worthless, or did i say valueless?)...i know sometimes that i have the
tendancy to blanket my statements. at the same time, please read the
sentence i just stated..the only opinion that i've ever stated with
the purpose of being fact is my 95% + comment about ttm autographs (i
don't think i need to re say it, it's the source of most of the true
argument that i've had with folks here).
as for the collector/seller aspect. i have collected lots of things.
it really depends on the subject. i have what is considered to be the
most complete lord of the rings posters (for all 3 movies). i have the
most complete "the big lebowski poster" there is out there and have
turned down offers that figure in the thousands for all of these
posters (i know lebowski doesn't seem to warrant the fan base that
LOTR does, but it really does, there are lebowski fests twice a year
in the u.s alone.)
my friends out here rag me for keeping what i do keep...because it's
more oddball than because people are famous...i didn't keep my brando
autograph because it held a value that was more substancial than what
it would take for me to keep it. but i keep like 20 matt damon's
because he's been in a ton of movies that i like and i like all the
shots (and he signs everything). does that make sense? the entire row
of my closet on top, is full of autographed photo books...i have a
tendancy to keep the first one i get from everybody (i have 9 jessica
alba autographs and i think that means that's more than i've sold.)
and i refuse to sell eddie vedder, no matter what the price.
i've turned down 200 grand for my collection 2 years ago...i don't
know why..but there is stuff in there that i couldn't possible part
with. and the company wanted the stuff site unseen.
but yes, i get so much material and have amassed such a large number
of items that there's no way i could keep it all. and if you add it up
with the number of items i have in my inventory and i'm sure you won't
see anyone with a larger collection than i do (but i don't count the
inventory and there are people out there that have been collecting
longer than i have.)
i do guess i see your point about the comments...but i assure you,
you'll know when i'm being a dick! it was (and so was the
certification comment) was intended to be an example...and those
analogies that you've given are a little long winded for no intended
reason...i'm telling you, if you weren't privy to the actions i have
taken against sue, you wouldn't have even noticed.
lastly, i don't think i meant for you to think that i was saying that
a true collector buys because it's there...i meant that as, the person
who buys, buys for different reasons...but there is no memory there.
unless it's a memory say, about a game he/she went to and they liked
something that kind of brought that memory back...that's what i really
meant to say...but there are lots of collectors that are "amassers"
and there are collectors, especially the high end ones that i deal
with, that buy for one specific reason...TO SHOW OFF. in fact, i know
for sure that many of my high end customers tell people that they got
the autograph themselves too..oddly enough...
like i said, if you didn't see all the arguing i do with sue, then you
wouldn't have seen that comment the way that you did...the arguments
"flowered" your reading and made you quick to judge...
maybe i'm wrong, but there was nothing meant by it...
m
barefoot
said, just about every post that hasd more than 2 posts on it, you sit
in judgement and have to say something...and on more than one
occassion, you've taken it on yourself to plagerise (sp?) what i said,
and just re say it in your own terms..
and again, i'm going to keep pounding away at you till there's nothing
left...i'm sure you went in your room, cried, sucked it up and came
back...you have NOTHING and you are NOTHING...you've done nothing to
help people in the time i've been here. all you do is bitch...YOU
personally drive people away and you lie about me...no one lies about
you.
but that's you, that's how you operate...
YOU are the poison. No one cares about your opinion. you aren't a
martyr, but you think you leave the impression that you can be. you
speak of imaginary friends and sit on high from a place that no one
else sees you. because YOU are beneath me. YOU are nothing. You know
nothing. there's nothing on this planet that you've accomplished.
you'll never be anything. that's the real sue.
m
sammerj...@gmail.com
me a lot and spent hours answering my questions asking nothing in
return. I'm not saying you are wrong or he is wrong but he has helped
me. I am just trying to make peace. I just got done doing 9 years in
Federal Prison over a drug case. For years I only thought of revenge
of the guy who was a friend who turned me in. I changed though. I
realized it was my decision and my mistake. I let it go and when I
got out I told the guy that turned me in thank you. If he hadn't
turned me in I'd either be dead or in prison for my entire life for
murder. I was pretty wild. I just think we all need to let bygones
be bygones. So he said stuff bad about you and you said bad stuff
about him. If we all let it go it shows we are better people for it.
I forgave a guy who put me in prison for 9 years. Can't we all just
forgive eachother and move on with our lives.
Sue H
deeds. I will say nothing more tonight. Your incessant name calling
and rambling is making my eyes hurt.
PS I've been waiting about 20 posts now to be shown how I lied.
Plagurize? LOL you apparently don't know the context of the word or
what you are saying as this makes NO sense. You just make crap up out
of thin air as you go. This is what you call slander. This IS
something you can be sued for. But to do this, I need to know what I
plagiarized? I will definitely need to know that first.
barefoot
stop ripping a loser nobody like you...no one...
i've taken the "constructive" criticism of others, but you are a plain
loser..
the brick wall is you...
hey, drink the kool aide for me will ya!
hope someone spits on your turkey.
Sue H
hope all will agree and we can all move on.
1) you post the day and posts where I "lied" about ANYTHING. I don't
know what else to put on here for me, because nothing else except rude
name calling (bitch etc) do I have to answer to in your posts it
appears. If you got something else, feel free to post whatever
evidence you have to refute. By refute, I don't mean another rant. I
mean PROOF. As in previous postings, people who come forward, lawyers
or whatever it is you think you got.
2) You tell people the exact truth about what you've done and not done
so we you can set the record straight so NOBODY accuses you of
anything in the future. Clear it all up in one post right now. Be
done with it. We can start by asking these questions and instead of a
long post, you can answer a simple YES or NO and we'll be done. I
will place a bet right now that you cannot control yourself to yes or
no answers but here we go. Be very careful here. Remember this group
is available for a long time and we can get old posts or people to
come forward who remember. So be very thoughtful here.
A) Have you ever shill bidded?
B) Have you ever taken a discount from any company and in return,
spam this group with favorable ads for them?
C) Have you ever logged on here under a different ID?
D) Have you ever taken publicity photos and used those from
Studios under the pretenses of "press" to make them for profit,
thereby selling unlicensed (illegal) photos?
E) Have you been kicked off or suspended Ever from Ebay for
unscrupulous dealings?
F) Did you ever question ttm collectors items stating that all
their mail graphs were "fakes" or "secretarial" or people lied about
getting certain items?
Remember, your answers will come back to you if you lie. I will
personally see that I spend my last waking hours going over old posts
if I have to, to prove what you've admitted to in the past.
Feel free to add what you have accomplished, helped etc and submit
your backup proof for it. Whatever it is you feel you need to answer
or tell, do it. One time and be done.
Sue H
barefoot
ago though..i was in my VERY EARLY twenties
B) Have you ever taken a discount from any company and in
return,
C) Have you ever logged on here under a different ID? nope,
again, not once, not ever..
D) Have you ever taken publicity photos and used those from
Studios under the pretenses of "press" to make them for profit,
concerned..if that's the case than EVERYONE is selling
bootlegs...movie market/movie store...none of this stuff is licensed.
you do far worse, you pull photos from movies where it states
specifically that any use is prohibited and punishable by law.
E) Have you been kicked off or suspended Ever from Ebay for
they let me back on, i CHOSE to walk away.
F) Did you ever question ttm collectors items stating that all
their mail graphs were "fakes" or "secretarial" or people lied about
secretarial. and every one of the dealers that sell these items knows
this and that's why they don't tell buyers that they got their stuff
ttm. you just don't want to know the truth...
and this is what you question all the time..even when the topic is not
about thse subjects...and you keep lying about how i post with other
people's names...but it's you that post under other people's names
with fake "newbie" people that just come here, defend you and
disappear...it's not new material...it happens EVERY TIME we argue, at
some point.
this is why you are a loser, you belive that these people are your
friends, and they are all make believe...
some guy posts, over a year ago, that he's looking for bill keane and
a local phoenix television personality, i answer and you put on there
that it's the same ip...that person (uhh14) doesn't respond in favor
of anything i say or do...he asked a simple question and you ripped
him for it...so don't tell me that you don't push people away (oh, i'm
sorry, you had posted under another name to tell that person that he's
posting under a fake name for me. funny. like i said what you accuse
people of doing is EXACTLY what you do, to throw people off the
scent.)
m
Sue H
<baref...@comcast.net> wrote:
> A) Have you ever shill bidded? yep...told you...it was like 9 years
>ago though..i was in my VERY EARLY twenties
At least you admit that.
> B) Have you ever taken a discount from any company and in
>return,
>spam this group with favorable ads for them? nope..not once, not ever.
Lies. You admitted, not even a week or so ago that you got discounts
from PSA/DNA. In exchange, you are harping on them, recommending them
to people, causing potential newbies to actually dish out money for
them. You did the same with GAI whoever that is.
> C) Have you ever logged on here under a different ID? nope,
>again, not once, not ever..
Lies again. you were caught, when your IP address was posted here
last year. you got silent for a little bit and then someone posted
the "roaming" theory in which someone else could catch the same IP
address... we all worked out the odds of that and amazingly, after a
number of posts that specific few days only, NOBODY ever did that
again. Hmmmm. The odds of that happening are probably akin to DNA
results. So you lying just makes you look worse.
D) Have you ever taken publicity photos and used those from
>Studios under the pretenses of "press" to make them for profit,
>thereby selling unlicensed (illegal) photos? not as far as i'm
>concerned..if that's the case than EVERYONE is selling
>bootlegs...movie market/movie store...none of this stuff is licensed.
>you do far worse, you pull photos from movies where it states
>specifically that any use is prohibited and punishable by law.
LOL Are you kidding? The "if your friend jumps off the bridge"
theory? Really now. Illegal is illegal Mike. Whether or not
everyone in the world does it. You doing it is still illegal~ GET
REAL. Oh hell no. We went over that legal clause and the law was
posted from the Stanford Law library right here on this newsgroup
about the interpretation. Although technically it's illegal to do
that, there is a "personal use" and "educational" clause. However,
YOU SELL THEM. There is NO even possible argument by any lawyer if
you went to court. We all did come to a consensus here that both were
illegal and with the lawyer's help, that yours would go to jail more
than anyone. YOU PROFIT form studios. Taking money out of their
pockets. While we ttm collectors, collect from it and use it for
"personal" use with NO money made. There's a HUGE difference and you
know it. You can still be turned in buddy; so keep it up.
> E) Have you been kicked off or suspended Ever from Ebay for
>unscrupulous dealings? yeah, one time, and it's for the above...when
>they let me back on, i CHOSE to walk away.
LOL Yeah, that's why you admitted to being kicked off (even above in
the other post you admitted that exactly). God, you are pathological
and can't even keep your lies straight in 5 minutes or from one post
to the very next. you have major issues.
> F) Did you ever question ttm collectors items stating that all
>their mail graphs were "fakes" or "secretarial" or people lied about
>getting certain items? absolutely. 95% + of ttm stuff is fake or
>secretarial. and every one of the dealers that sell these items knows
>this and that's why they don't tell buyers that they got their stuff
>ttm. you just don't want to know the truth...
>
Lies. We have proven this over and over again. People shared their
stories. We have letters and other articles showing that's not so.
You continually try to say this over and over for one reason only...
you want people to think YOUR way of getting graphs is it, so they
have to buy your crap. You are not in this group for the hobby or for
others. You are here for selfish reasons only. SAD.
>and this is what you question all the time..even when the topic is not
>about thse subjects...and you keep lying about how i post with other
>people's names...but it's you that post under other people's names
>with fake "newbie" people that just come here, defend you and
>disappear...it's not new material...it happens EVERY TIME we argue, at
>some point.
Nope; and I was right. You couldn't even just say yes or no without
writing a long freakin blah, blah book. Yeah, just remember Mike, all
these Newbie people you accuse me of being... well if they aren't me,
they're going to think you are certifiable, so I enjoy you saying this
sort of thing (keep it up please because it makes me look great and
you like a certifiable idiot).
>this is why you are a loser, you belive that these people are your
>friends, and they are all make believe...
LOL Ok poor soul. I've been in communication with people for years
from the net. I've actually seen some, send gifts/cards to others and
even exchange photos annually. Is there ONE person who does that with
you? Doubtful. You can say it's made up. Who cares. I am secure
with my life ... but we all know about you; admitted basement liver.
>some guy posts, over a year ago, that he's looking for bill keane and
>a local phoenix television personality, i answer and you put on there
>that it's the same ip...that person (uhh14) doesn't respond in favor
>of anything i say or do...he asked a simple question and you ripped
>him for it...so don't tell me that you don't push people away (oh, i'm
>sorry, you had posted under another name to tell that person that he's
>posting under a fake name for me. funny. like i said what you accuse
>people of doing is EXACTLY what you do, to throw people off the
>scent.)
>m
>
It was not me with the IP address. At the time, I had no clue what
that meant. Now I know though. As soon as he posted that, I certainly
researched it. That's how I found out that it was indeed you. I have
never once posted under any other name except the one I have. I've
had it for YEARS. Keep making up stuff Mike; makes you look
certifiable. Oh and I'll call you a ass, fool, idiot or whatever
else; I do not need to make up names. As I explained to someone who
emailed me yesterday, you are not anything to be scared or upset
about. The only thing you are to me is annoying and frustrating.
Other than that, you aren't worth a damned thought; you're like a
mosqito; you just want to swat at it and make it go away because it's
trying to suck your life's essence. Speaking of that, I'll not
respond anymore. I'm done. I have things to do with the holidays and
the show and all... so off with you.
tarkusshadow
FREAKING BAREFOOT AND I CAN'T STAND HIS ARROGANCE! SO WHAT, MY THROUGH
THE MAIL AUTOGRAPHS ARE FAKE! AND I HAVE NO INTENTION OF SELLING THEM.
BUT THERE'S ONE THING THE IDIOT DOESN'T KNOW. SOME OF MY AUTOGRAPHS
FROM PEOPLE THAT THE IDIOT DOESN'T KNOW, (
tarkusshadow
tarkusshadow wrote:
> THIS IS FREAKING BETTER THAN WATCHING A SOAP OPERA! I DON'T EVEN KNOW
> FREAKING BAREFOOT AND I CAN'T STAND HIS ARROGANCE! SO WHAT, MY THROUGH
> THE MAIL AUTOGRAPHS ARE FAKE! AND I HAVE NO INTENTION OF SELLING THEM.
> BUT THERE'S ONE THING THE IDIOT DOESN'T KNOW. SOME OF MY AUTOGRAPHS
> FROM PEOPLE THAT THE IDIOT DOESN'T KNOW, (
Continued!!!!!!
I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH "PEOPLE" THAT AREN'T "MARKETABLE". BUT DO "WE"
REALLY CARE?
I DON'T THINK SO! DO WE NOT DO THIS BECAUSE WE WANT TOO? AND NOT FOR
PROFIT?
SO BAREFOOT HAS MORE AUTOGRAPHS THEN ME. OH BOY. UH, SO? DOES IT MAKE
YOUR PEE-PEE HARD KNOWING THAT? MORE POWER TO YA BABY! I DON'T NEED
TOM CRUISE'S AUTOGRAPH TO GET ME OFF! AND BESIDE'S, WHOEVER TOLD TOM
CRUISE HE COULD ACT?
YEAH, SO SUE HAS AN ATTITUDE WHEN IT COMES TO AUTOGRAPHS, BUT SHE
HAS PROVIDED MORE INFORMATION THEN YOU WILL EVER LEARN IN YOUR
LIFETIME.
I ONLY HAVE ONE GOD, AND SHE IS NOT YOU!!!!!!
barefoot
>B) Have you ever taken a discount from any company and in
>return,
>spam this group with favorable ads for them? nope..not once, not ever.
Lies. You admitted, not even a week or so ago that you got discounts
from PSA/DNA. In exchange, you are harping on them, recommending
them
to people, causing potential newbies to actually dish out money for
them. You did the same with GAI whoever that is. <
wow, talk about lying about me...you are doing a GREAT JOB...
i never accepted a discount so that i would advertise for someone...
i keep saying how i HATE using these services, but to get along in the
industry, you HAVE TO...i have a store in los angeles, and people who
know what they are doing want EVERYTHING certified by someone...this
really just shows what you DON'T KNOW about the business...
and i said that i've used all the different services...i just prefer
psa dna...gai disappeared for over a week. just up and
disappeared...with people's money and stuff. they've since come back
and it's apparent that they were evicted from their building...
i do get a discount from psa...because i'm about their largest in
person dealer/customer. i'm not harping them in exchange for
anything...so stop lying about me and we'll get over this...
>) Have you ever logged on here under a different ID? nope,
>again, not once, not ever..
Lies again. you were caught, when your IP address was posted here
last year. you got silent for a little bit and then someone posted
the "roaming" theory in which someone else could catch the same IP
address... we all worked out the odds of that and amazingly, after a
number of posts that specific few days only, NOBODY ever did that
again. Hmmmm. The odds of that happening are probably akin to DNA
results. So you lying just makes you look worse. <
uhh, no one caught me doing anything...you lied about ap addresses and
your knowledge of both...people got on here somehow using the same ip
and said it's basically just a service provider thing and that
THOUSANDS of people could be using the same and similar ip
addresses...i have no idea who said it, but i remeber that one...and
like i said, no one comes on here defending me...it was some guy
looking for a tip on bill keane and i had the info and YOU put on here
that i'm trying to talk to myself or some shit...but a whole bunch of
people keep popping up and defending you and disappearing, never to
return...i think that's more proof of your bullshit, not mine.
you still have no friends in this or any industry.
m
Sue H
<baref...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >B) Have you ever taken a discount from any company and in
>>return,
>>spam this group with favorable ads for them? nope..not once, not ever.
>
>
>Lies. You admitted, not even a week or so ago that you got discounts
>from PSA/DNA. In exchange, you are harping on them, recommending
>them
>to people, causing potential newbies to actually dish out money for
>them. You did the same with GAI whoever that is. <
>
>wow, talk about lying about me...you are doing a GREAT JOB...
>i never accepted a discount so that i would advertise for someone...
>i keep saying how i HATE using these services, but to get along in the
>industry, you HAVE TO...i have a store in los angeles, and people who
>know what they are doing want EVERYTHING certified by someone...this
>really just shows what you DON'T KNOW about the business...
>and i said that i've used all the different services...i just prefer
>psa dna...gai disappeared for over a week. just up and
>disappeared...with people's money and stuff. they've since come back
>and it's apparent that they were evicted from their building...
>i do get a discount from psa...because i'm about their largest in
>person dealer/customer. i'm not harping them in exchange for
>anything...so stop lying about me and we'll get over this...
>
I'll let this go; you just contradict yourself over and over and in
the same paragraph even. People can read this themselves and decide.
>
>>) Have you ever logged on here under a different ID? nope,
>>again, not once, not ever..
>
>
>Lies again. you were caught, when your IP address was posted here
>last year. you got silent for a little bit and then someone posted
>the "roaming" theory in which someone else could catch the same IP
>address... we all worked out the odds of that and amazingly, after a
>number of posts that specific few days only, NOBODY ever did that
>again. Hmmmm. The odds of that happening are probably akin to DNA
>results. So you lying just makes you look worse. <
>uhh, no one caught me doing anything...you lied about ap addresses and
>your knowledge of both...people got on here somehow using the same ip
>and said it's basically just a service provider thing and that
>THOUSANDS of people could be using the same and similar ip
>addresses...i have no idea who said it, but i remeber that one...and
>like i said, no one comes on here defending me...it was some guy
>looking for a tip on bill keane and i had the info and YOU put on here
>that i'm trying to talk to myself or some shit...but a whole bunch of
>people keep popping up and defending you and disappearing, never to
>return...i think that's more proof of your bullshit, not mine.
>you still have no friends in this or any industry.
>m
Not even close (I only posted one or two time in that MASSIVE thread
and it wasn't started, figured out or ended by me). all those here
before when that thread was hot know. It doesn't need to be rehashed.
All know what you do. I reminded them and now my job is done.
Mr Black
> uhh, no one caught me doing anything...you lied about ap addresses and
> your knowledge of both...people got on here somehow using the same ip
> and said it's basically just a service provider thing and that
> THOUSANDS of people could be using the same and similar ip
> addresses...
Sorry dude, you were busted cold on that one.
"Similar" IP, yes, but yours and the sock were exactly the "Same". That
cant happen unless the sock came over to your house, and logged on using
your pc and your net provider......
Sue H
restated that IP addresses can track a single person... on a single
laptop/PC
barefoot
the same service provider...you all need to get YOUR story straight...
and yes, i would have nothing to gain from asking an inane question...
i also, still love that the same people are responding...i'm sure THIS
is an example of logging on to several accounts by the same
person...barely an hour apart from 2 different sides of
world....hmmmm!
Sue H
IMPOSSIBLE; I'd have to be Masi Oka's character in Heroes to do that!
LOL. You do realize your ignorance shows.
Mr Black
>i'm sure THIS
> is an example of logging on to several accounts by the same
> person...barely an hour apart from 2 different sides of
> world....hmmmm!
>
yes, amazing i know...its called the I-N-T-E-R-N-E-T
Bob
address, one is if someone hacked you're computer, stole you're IP
address, logged in as you, created a new profile on here and posted a
message asking you a question (seems unlikely) or if you both are
using dial up from the same providor there is a slim chance that you
could be assigned the same random IP, however the odds of you both
having the same IP, posting to the same board and asking/answering
each others question is in the billions. You got busted dude!!!
And if you don't believe what I said here, simply type the question
into Google and read any websites that deal with the problem or
computer/website networking.
Bob
B, must be the same person. I work nights, and live in Taxaschusetts.
Massachusetts to the rest of you.
Sue H
probably respond... all from different places and same names we've
been using for years. All these names and conversations about
everything under the sun and messages on other boards too, must be so
time consuming I, or you or Mr. B or Tarkus or any of us who's doing
this (obviously making him delusional) is so all consuming we can't
work, sleep, eat, or take a pee. LOL We are cosmic entities who
don't really exist maybe at all! We are merely a figment of the
world's imagination and a paranoid individual's mind. Now I am off; I
need coffee.
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:47:36 -0800 (PST), Bob <4Wick...@gmail.com>
wrote:
barefoot
and to bob...i don't know what happened...like i said, one time,
someone posted a question that had to just do with the group about how
to get a hold of bill keane (the guy who does family circus)..like a
day or two later, i posted (because i had actually seen him at a ice
cream shop in scottsdale) and all of the sudden, i was blasted for
talking to myself and trying to drum up business or whatever...but
then this whole ip thing popped up (i don't even understand that crap
myself) and how this guy's ip was the same as mine. he had posted with
an aol address, and i'm on comcast. but there were like 3 people (sue
and mr. black were 2 and the other was some guy who just came on here
solely to rip me, which was sue playing one of her games) to tell me
all this stuff about ip addresses and everything...
but i went through this whole thing where i would have to sign in just
to post here. and i'm sure so did this other person...and i have
comcast and don't have aol since i moved from phoenix...
so, well, i don't know where i'm going with this, i'm just
saying..that's how i got accused of faking an id...it's the only time
i've been accused of it...and it's for something so random...but
during the arguments, somone else had posted that in smaller towns, or
with certain service providers in certain areas, that the same ip
could be used for hundreds and even thousands of people. i even
personally argued that it was from different service providers (the
original poster had posted from aol. like i said, i'm from comcast)
and we were told that it's possible in smaller communities. that it
could have been that both of us were using the internet from the same
community..and it kind of ended with that point stressed.
but that's what sue does, drags up her own lies and recycles them,
hoping people forget what went on in the argument.
anyway, that's enough. just my point to "bob."
m
rene...@ptd.net
> Today of Fox News Chicago. They gave James Spence fake autographs and
> he looked at them for exactly 3 seconds authenticated it and then was
> showed the footage of what really happended. HE GOT BUSTED BIG TIME.
> PSA is the only true authenticator out the. Seewww.myfoxchicago.com
> for more on this!
Get your facts straight before you go blowing your mouth off. First of
all James Spence was not even in the state the day that happened. It
was one Sal Bando autograph and he was doing a signing there.
Sue H
they went outside and forged his signature and then had the guy
authenticate it. It's probably because he was signing they may have
thought it was from THAT signing and didn't even look at it (NO EXCUSE
for that though). I don't know the guy who "authenticated" the
signature, but they said James Spence on the video that we all saw.
Apparently there was some relation. His company or protoge?
Sue H
Sue H
Get over it.
NOW, let's get back to COLLECTING.
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:11:10 -0800 (PST), barefoot
<baref...@comcast.net> wrote:
barefoot
dude..sue NO ONE LIKES YOUR POSTS...no one responds to them and no one
cares about them...quit putting your b.s. on mine. because again,
that's all you do..
NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOU!
if YOU stopped posting, this would all be about collecting. not
reading your lies.
i was just why anyone would accuse me of posting with a fake name (oh
yeah, that person who says that is YOU...no one else has accused me of
anything)...you posted that ip crap..i don't even believe that it was
the same ip...but since im in no posistion to dispute that you may be
correct...i find it hard to contempleate all your double talk and b.s.
like i said, you get accused of something and all you do is try to
turn it around on me...
and i'm not about to call you a DANGER to the hobby...because you
really aren't a part of the hobby...no one knows who you are (good or
bad) only 70 people look at this site YEARLY. so no matter what, your
lies really do fall upon deaf ears (except mine, who are just racking
up the slander charges everytime you even post)...
no one's having trouble understanding what i am saying, you just can't
get past all the voices in your head to understand. there aren't any
double negatives or run on sentences, like you complain. just the
voices in your head yelling that i'm wrong.
give it a rest.
m
Sue H
last I looked, I did not have a penis... so DuDE, stop referring to me
in that manner.
PS Learn definition of SLANDER. I posted the definition a while back
and you do not understand the meaning.
People who are educated would have a problem understanding your run on
sentences, your lack of proper punctuation and the non existence of
capitalization makes your jibberish even worse to read. Added to the
fact that all you are is a broken record (all I hear is blah blah;
same old crap; blah blah). Come up with new material will ya.
barefoot
doesn't matter to anyone...
there are no run on sentences. just you, pointing out that i don't
capitalize...big whup. like i said, the only one who says anything IS
YOU...and your voices in your head that mean something to you..
you were the one who pointed out the ip thing...and like i said, it
was an innate thing. came on the heels of NOTHING, but you keep
wanting to say that i go on here with a fake name. which i have NEVER
done...
i guess my proof doesn't even matter. all that stuff about small
communities using the same ip (which is COMPLETELY true) goes by the
wayside as you try to change the subject YET AGAIN.
enjoy.
m
Sue H
respond further as you are not worth anymore of my time.
alcil...@hotmail.com
it will be ?!
Bill Pierce
they are the same person
<sammerj...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:c8ebe90a-608d-46b6...@b36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> Sorry I started something here. Sue in barefoor defense he has help
> me a lot and spent hours answering my questions asking nothing in
> return. I'm not saying you are wrong or he is wrong but he has helped
> me. I am just trying to make peace. I just got done doing 9 years in
> Federal Prison over a drug case. For years I only thought of revenge
> of the guy who was a friend who turned me in. I changed though. I
> realized it was my decision and my mistake. I let it go and when I
> got out I told the guy that turned me in thank you. If he hadn't
> turned me in I'd either be dead or in prison for my entire life for
> murder. I was pretty wild. I just think we all need to let bygones
> be bygones. So he said stuff bad about you and you said bad stuff
> about him. If we all let it go it shows we are better people for it.
> I forgave a guy who put me in prison for 9 years. Can't we all just
> forgive eachother and move on with our lives.
Sue H
Xref: Hurricane-Charley alt.collecting.autographs:28797
barefoot
post...i am sorry...but it's funny that he's posting the whole
different person thing saying that it's me...that's so cute. funny how
that pops up right as we are telling each other that the other person
is doing the exact same thing...
to be honest, i believe that sammer jaber is michael johnson...and i
think i'm COMPLETELY correct.
m
Sue H
barefoot
both of them have never posted on here before....so i think it goes
well to my argument when there seems to be people who pop up to defned
your case (sue) when we argue who have never been here before.
m
Sue H
who accused you of being the same. Yet here you are again trying to
start yet ANOTHER argument. You really must be lonely. I am sorry
but I am in no mood to play today. I've got things to do.
Mr Black
Im glad we got that out of the way, now lets get back to graphs.
MrB
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"Sue H" <dah...@cox.net> wrote in message
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sammerj...@gmail.com
can check my info at www.coolhollywoodphotos.com. please do not make
false accusations about me.