>.Matt trdell123...@gmail.com wrote in
>ddm8n5p6pp0i6mlb3...@4ax.com
>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:08:18 +0100, " ::: Jesus is LORD :::"
>> <jesus-...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Fred A Stover fst...@tx.rr.com wrote in
>>> 7tj1vd...@mid.individual.net
>>>> .Matt wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:40:19 +0100, " ::: Jesus is LORD :::"
>>>>> <jesus-...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Amazing Grace maran...@gmail.com wrote in
>>>>>> 11e2e4c8-cb9e-4aee...@x1g2000prb.googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> On Feb 10, 11:26 pm, "Fred A Stover" <fsto...@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> .Matt wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:00:36 -0600, "Fred A Stover"
>>>>>>>>> <fsto...@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> .Matt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:21:19 -0600, "Fred A Stover"
>>>>>>>>>>> <fsto...@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Amazing Grace wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 10, 8:09am, "Fred A Stover" <fsto...@tx.rr.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amazing Grace wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ".Matt" <trdell1234donots...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:c3j3n59sdauvq1omi...@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 13:57:21 -0600, "Fred A Stover"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <fsto...@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .Matt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:00:55 -0600, "Fred A Stover"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <fsto...@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .Matt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:11:36 -0600, "Fred A Stover"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <fsto...@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .Matt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 01:14:32 -0600, "Fred A Stover"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <fsto...@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amazing Grace wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 7, 1:47pm, "Fred A Stover"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <fsto...@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amazing Grace wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ".Matt" <trdell1234donots...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:adptm558f6had3r24...@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 02:55:05 +0100, " :::
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus is LORD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :" <jesus-is-l...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .Matt trdell1234donots...@gmail.com wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v00sm5hbc5lfmj1kqpso2ajvuj5u947...@4ax.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 00:42:06 +0100, " :::
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus is LORD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :" <jesus-is-l...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amazing Grace maranat...@nospam.gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in pDfbn.55432$s%.44...@newsfe18.iad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PHIL 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exalted him, and given him a name which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is aboveeveryname: 10 That at the name of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesuseveryknee should bow, of things in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heaven, and things in earth, and things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under the earth; 11 And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thateverytongueshould confessthat Jesus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Father.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Correct!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And now tell us what will happen to them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if they do not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well the key word here is "should"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did find this commentary interesting:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but this here is a conversation group,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and if people want to read comments like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this, they can look into the web. It can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found in any search machine. Usenet lives
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from people's own posts. I you cannot write
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> senseful things, you should go to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read-only-mode, best off-line.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well this is a group on Christian Life and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes a discussion group.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't you try discussing what the word
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Should" means in the Verse in connection to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your above question of ""And now tell us what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen to them if they do not."" ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are not the moderator as you have ZERO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> power here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes I did change your followup back to ACC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you deceptive practice is well known and so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> un-Christian.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God Bless
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amen. You are correct on all points Matt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone replying to Vera's post should check
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where it is going before they hit send. God
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bless,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grace
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It appearxs that there is power in the truth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for no one has said anything of the power to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which y'all are reacting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> His,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, there is power in the truth and the truth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is Vera has proved to be devious and dishonest.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Holy Spirit would never lead someone to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grace
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She wasn't the one who mentioned power, it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned in response to it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The truth is in what Grace said.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're a liar. You're the one who noticed and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attributed "power" to the post from "Jesus is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lord."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes I did and if you would be honest you would see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what Grace said is true and doesn't even cover who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said what when.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is what she said
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, there is power in the truth and the truth is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vera has proved to be devious and dishonest. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holy Spirit would never lead someone to do those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things. Grace
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> End Quote
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tell me is it a lie that there is ""power in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> truth""? To me Christ is truth.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is power in truth, Goofy, but truth is not in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whatever your nothing but a fraud and are yourself are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> powerless and of no authority. That has been proven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beyond doubt many times.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My authority was established when I presented the three
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witnesses, and your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fight is with the boss, the Lord. And your lies, Satan,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are not proof.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL You nothing but a fake. You have been wrong and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holy Spirit would never be wrong. Fred A Stover just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another Chung LOL
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If your looking for satan find a mirror and look into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fred A Stover's eyes. Personally I think you are just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being boastful and are on a EGO trip.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your Eisegesis od BHS is heresy so that makes you a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heretic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God Bless
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fred talks in circles, twist words like a pretzel. LOL I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stand by my original statement. The Holy Spirit would not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lead anyone to do something devious and dishonest. NEVER!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satan, how many of these folks are you infesting. Matt and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grace, who else? Nothing has been twisted in His doctrines
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've espressed, and it is you who suggests that the Holy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spirit is devious and dishonest. I would never suggest it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU ARE A LIAR> I have never suggested the HOLY SPIRIT is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> liar. I have exposed Vera as devious and dishonest. Not the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ is my LORD and Savior and NO Lie
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you tell can change that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grace
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You lie. It is you who said "The Holy Spirit would not lead
>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone to do something devious and dishonest. NEVER!" which
>>>>>>>>>>>> was the first time it was suggested and you deviously
>>>>>>>>>>>> suggested someone else had said it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes I guess you do not know what the word "NEVER" means.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You don't have to prove you're an idiot. The subject wasn't
>>>>>>>>>> the opinion of the suggestion, it was the suggestion itself
>>>>>>>>>> which she penned.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you even know what we were originally talking about Fred.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Look again the suggestion of the deviousness of the Holy Spirit
>>>>>>>> was in her above statement "The Holy Spirit would not lead
>>>>>>>> anyone to do something devious and dishonest" as though someone
>>>>>>>> else had suggested it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> His,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More @http://fredstover.angelfire.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ho echon ota akoueto Preparing the way of the
>>>>>>>> Lord
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Verily I say unto you, Whosoever
>>>>>>>> shallnot receive the kingdom of God
>>>>>>>> as a little child, heshallnot enter therein.
>>>>>>>> (Mark 10:15)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <)))))))><
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I never suggested the Holy Spirit was devious. You obviously
>>>>>>> can not comprehend what you read. It is the person that is
>>>>>>> devious and obviously not being led by the Holy Spirit when they
>>>>>>> are dishonest just as you are being now. You are implying
>>>>>>> something I did not say and that is lying.
>>>>>>> Grace
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, did you write "The Holy Spirit would not lead anyone to do
>>>>>> something devious and dishonest" or did you not? If you did, stop
>>>>>> calling others liars.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Vera you also prove your dishonesty here.
>>>>>
>>>>> The original post said
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Holy Spirit would not lead anyone to do something devious and
>>>>> dishonest. NEVER!"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Thank you for testifying that her strawman was her creation "The
>>>> Holy Spirit would not lead anyone to do something devious and
>>>> dishonest."
>>>
>>> Of course it was. I wonder why they believe that everybody is too
>>> stupid to see this. She wrote that, and there was no substance for
>>> it. But that is how they work - creating one strawman after the
>>> other.
>>
>> I wrote that not Grace.
>
>That is wrong. Grace did.
>
You are corrected.
But Grace is Correct the Holy Spirit would never direct a person to
use lies and deception.
Be Well Vera
Matt
He admitted it emphasizing she added Never to the strawman.
--
His,
More @ http://fredstover.angelfire.com/
ho echon ota akoueto Preparing the way of the
Lord
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Verily I say unto you, Whosoever
shall not receive the kingdom of God
as a little child, he shall not enter therein.
(Mark 10:15)
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<)))))))><