<lurk mode off>
Here are a few tips from a commited male girdle-wearer,
1/ Get a real girdle, not control panties. While they perform the
same function, your girlfriend will, if she feels the same way as me,
find the sight of a proper girdle infinitely more exciting.
2/ Get a firm control girdle so that you can relish the experience of
girdle wearing. Also, get one which fits properly. There is no pleasure
to be had in a girdle with is either far too tight or is hanging slack.
If in doubt, ask the shop assistant. (Don't worry, they'll have seen it
all before.) Get the fit right, and it *will* be firm but comfortable.
3/ Make a sensible choice. You do not want the whole world in on your secret.
Don't wear a long leg girdle to work - the legs show through when you sit.
If you want the sensation of thigh control, wear control-top tights under
your girdle. (If you wear tights, wear socks as well. Trouser legs ride
up when you sit down, and this is only meant to be a spectator sport for
an audience of one.) At work, I wear black control-top tights under a
Berlei firm control short leg girdle. Only an experienced eye could tell
what I am wearing, yet I get the pleasure of wearing a girdle all day.
Only when I get home do I change into my first choice underwear - a high
waist, firm control open girdle (with black lacetop stockings) and a
longline bra. You should maybe consider getting something like this for
evening/weekend wear - I'm sure your girlfriend would be appreciative, and
you don't have to take off an open girdle in bed ;-)
4/ Stick with it. When I first resolved to wear girdles on a full time basis,
I found it tough going. After 10 or so hours in a girdle, I found my
enthusiasm waning for the first time in my life. However, I soon got used
to it, and you will to. (To help the process along, I threw out all my
old underwear - when all you've got are panties, bras and girdles, you
don't have much of a choice. I also started wearing a firm control girdle
when I came back from 2 week's vacation. I claimed that I had lost weight
through dieting and so, even though I didn't feel like wearing a girdle
some days, I had no choice but to put one on.)
5/ Practise walking, sitting down and standing up so that you don't give
the game away. When sitting, don't let yourself flop when you're halfway
down, and don't grimace or grunt when standing up. You'll soon get the
hang of it.
I think I've gone on long enough. Give it a try, you'll grow to like it.
PS I apologise for posting anonymously, but I can do without my friends or
employer finding out my dress preferences on DejaNews. I also offer my
apologies to anyone offended by the idea of men wearing women's underwear.
GirdleMan (White control panties, Berlei high waist open girdle,
black lace top stockings, Triumph longline bra, white lacy
petticoat, white blouse and black knee-length skirt.)
Welcome to a.c.l. -- hope you won't let the dubious personalities get you
down!
>Here are a few tips from a commited male girdle-wearer,
>1/ Get a real girdle, not control panties. While they perform
>the same function, your girlfriend will, if she feels the same
>way as me, find the sight of a proper girdle infinitely more
>exciting.
>2/ Get a firm control girdle so that you can relish the
>experience of girdle wearing. Also, get one which fits
>properly. There is no pleasure to be had in a girdle with is
>either far too tight or is hanging slack. Get the fit right,
>and it *will* be firm but comfortable.
I was fortunate to find a place where I could try on medium and large
size girdles. The former size fits me while the latter is, as you
would say, too slack. And I agree -- It is indeed an experience to
relish, having a firm control girdle holding onto you.
>....... If you want the sensation of thigh control, wear
>control-top tights under your girdle. (If you wear tights,
>wear socks as well. Trouser legs ride up when you sit down,
>and this is only meant to be a spectator sport for an audience
>of one.)
>4/ Stick with it. When I first resolved to wear girdles on a
>full time basis, I found it tough going. .... However, I soon
>got used to it, and you will too. ....
>5/ Practise walking, sitting down and standing up so that you
>don't give the game away. When sitting, don't let yourself
>flop when you're halfway down, and don't grimace or grunt when
>standing up. You'll soon get the hang of it.... Give it a
>try, you'll grow to like it.
>GirdleMan (White control panties, Berlei high waist open
>girdle, black lace top stockings, Triumph longline bra,
>white lacy petticoat, white blouse and black knee-length
>skirt.)
Dear GirdleMan:
Although I see no point to wearing a bra if you don't have breasts,
and though I'm not into wearing women's outerclothes, I appreciate a
lot of what you've put forward. I've worn firm control panty girdles
and panty girdle briefs, and I like the way they hold me firmly in
place. I don't like high-waisted girdles, though: I bought one around
six months ago, and wore it a few times. As long as you're standing up
its fine, but when you have to sit down, the darn thing is so uncomfort-
able it interferes with whatever I'm trying to do --which is NOT what
the wearing of ANY garment is supposed to be about!
Right now, my big love affair as far as lingerie is concerned, is
pantyhose (or tights, as you call them). I like the way control top
pantyhose holds me steady, like a girdle would. After experimenting
with L'eggs Sheer Energy control top ph (I still have a few), I later
bought a few L'eggs Smooth Silhouettes body contouring hosiery. My
latest acquisition is the aforementioned, with medium shaping leg and
slimming panty. This variety of hose provides it all: waist, stomach
and thigh control, and it tones up your lower legs as well.
I agree with your point about wearing men's socks over pantyhose. My
reasons for doing so are not just embarassment, but also to protect
the nylon netting from abrasion.
As for combining pantyhose and a girdle, right now I'm still experiment
ing to see how well Smooth Silhouettes holds me in without a girdle
over it. I might try the two in combination sometime, though.
Thanks for filling us in on your thoughts. Wearing L'eggs Sheer Energy
control top pantyhose under patterned cotton boxer underwear and yours
for the cause of all for lingerie and lingerie for all,
----Alexander R. ("Alex") Kovnat
Knight in Tarnished Armor
Ako...@aol.com
[very large clip, to save space]
Excuse me, but I think we should all try avoiding the use of negative
phrases such as "dubious personalities", even when actual names aren't
being mentioned. Perhaps if we do everything possible to create a more
positive atmosphere here in ACL, more quality posters will, in turn,
become attracted to our newsgroup.
(Of course, the key word in my first sentence is "try")!
Thunderbolt
Hello. Glad to hear from you! I wish more polite and articulate members
such as yourself would come out of lurking; this newsgroup really needs
all the help it can get, at the moment.
> Here are a few tips from a commited male girdle-wearer,
>
> 1/ Get a real girdle, not control panties. While they perform the
> same function, your girlfriend will, if she feels the same way as me,
> find the sight of a proper girdle infinitely more exciting.
Well, I'm a committed boring-white-brief wearer, myself, and I think the
sight of an attractive woman in a girdle is "infinitely more exiting"
than anything else.
However, that's merely my personal preference, and I also firmly (no
pun) believe other individuals are as entitled to their opinions as I am
to mine. I do agree that a "real girdle" is much more enticing than
control panties are, though.
> 2/ Get a firm control girdle so that you can relish the experience of
> girdle wearing. Also, get one which fits properly. There is no pleasure
> to be had in a girdle with is either far too tight or is hanging slack.
> If in doubt, ask the shop assistant. (Don't worry, they'll have seen it
> all before.) Get the fit right, and it *will* be firm but comfortable.
I can't speak from experience with respect to girdle-wearing, itself;
still and all, your advice sounds valid to me.
> 3/ Make a sensible choice. You do not want the whole world in on your secret.
> Don't wear a long leg girdle to work - the legs show through when you sit.
> If you want the sensation of thigh control, wear control-top tights under
> your girdle. (If you wear tights, wear socks as well. Trouser legs ride
> up when you sit down, and this is only meant to be a spectator sport for
> an audience of one.) At work, I wear black control-top tights under a
> Berlei firm control short leg girdle. Only an experienced eye could tell
> what I am wearing, yet I get the pleasure of wearing a girdle all day.
> Only when I get home do I change into my first choice underwear - a high
> waist, firm control open girdle (with black lacetop stockings) and a
> longline bra. You should maybe consider getting something like this for
> evening/weekend wear - I'm sure your girlfriend would be appreciative, and
> you don't have to take off an open girdle in bed ;-)
Regarding some of the points you've made above, I've just thought of a
question perhaps you (and/or another poster) would care to answer: Have
you ever considered the possibilty someone may accidentally bump into
you in public, and therefore suspect you're wearing a girdle, upon
momentarily feeling its tautness?
Of course, I guess that's simply a risk one has to take in such a
situation. Although, I suppose padding might tend to lessen the chance
of discovery, somewhat. This may actually be a sound idea for a new type
of special "cross-dresser's girdle" -- one that is firm on the "inside"
(for the wearer's benefit), yet soft on the outside (for the sake of
society's tender sensibilities).
> 4/ Stick with it. When I first resolved to wear girdles on a full time basis,
> I found it tough going. After 10 or so hours in a girdle, I found my
> enthusiasm waning for the first time in my life. However, I soon got used
> to it, and you will to. (To help the process along, I threw out all my
> old underwear - when all you've got are panties, bras and girdles, you
> don't have much of a choice. I also started wearing a firm control girdle
> when I came back from 2 week's vacation. I claimed that I had lost weight
> through dieting and so, even though I didn't feel like wearing a girdle
> some days, I had no choice but to put one on.)
Looks like you failed to plan ahead thoroughly enough, that time!
> 5/ Practise walking, sitting down and standing up so that you don't give
> the game away. When sitting, don't let yourself flop when you're halfway
> down, and don't grimace or grunt when standing up. You'll soon get the
> hang of it.
You're probably right, concerning the wisdom of practicing the fine
"art" of girdle-wearing in private, before attempting to go out into the
world encased within the elastic "armor".
After all, practice makes perfect!
> I think I've gone on long enough. Give it a try, you'll grow to like it.
>
> PS I apologise for posting anonymously, but I can do without my friends or
> employer finding out my dress preferences on DejaNews. I also offer my
> apologies to anyone offended by the idea of men wearing women's underwear.
>
> GirdleMan (White control panties, Berlei high waist open girdle,
> black lace top stockings, Triumph longline bra, white lacy
> petticoat, white blouse and black knee-length skirt.)
No need to apologize for what you've written, here...your message was
both on-topic and enlightening. Lingerie can (and should) be enjoyed by
everyone, regardless of gender or anything else. One element ACL has
usually provided, even in its darkest hours, is a forum where people can
discuss issues like cross-dressing without fear of being either
ridiculed or judged too harshly.
That alone makes this newsgroup worth trying to save, in my opinion.
Thunderbolt
Thunderbolt wrote:
> Hello. Glad to hear from you! I wish more polite and articulate members
> such as yourself would come out of lurking; this newsgroup really needs
> all the help it can get, at the moment.
That's a relief. I'd been waiting for the flamefest to start.
> Regarding some of the points you've made above, I've just thought of a
> question perhaps you (and/or another poster) would care to answer: Have
> you ever considered the possibilty someone may accidentally bump into
> you in public, and therefore suspect you're wearing a girdle, upon
> momentarily feeling its tautness?
>
> Of course, I guess that's simply a risk one has to take in such a
> situation. Although, I suppose padding might tend to lessen the chance
> of discovery, somewhat. This may actually be a sound idea for a new type
> of special "cross-dresser's girdle" -- one that is firm on the "inside"
> (for the wearer's benefit), yet soft on the outside (for the sake of
> society's tender sensibilities).
I find that most people don't notice. They're not expecting men to wear
girdles, and they wouldn't know what to look out for anyway. I did get a
shock once when I went into a specialist corsetry shop and, before I could
say anything, the assistant asked what brand of girdle I was wearing.
Luckily, such people are few and far between! I do try to make sure that
there are no obvious visible signs, though.
As for having special girdles, I find that I'm only interested in proper
women's girdles. It's a peculiar thing - the look is just as important
as the feel. This is why I have no interest in control panties or any of
the more modern watered down approximations of girdles. While they feel ok,
they're just don't look the part. Maybe it's a result of growing up in the
sixties and seventies, when a girdle *was* a girdle and damn well looked
like it! I dread the day when real girdles disappear from the shelves and
all we're left with are panties with attitude.
> One element ACL has usually provided, even in its darkest hours, is a forum
> where people can discuss issues like cross-dressing without fear of being
> either ridiculed or judged too harshly. That alone makes this newsgroup
> worth trying to save, in my opinion.
I'll go along with that. This is only group where I have found intelligent
and interesting discussions on the subject of lingerie. I know some people
are put off by crossdressing, but I hope that the regular posters don't feel
that people like me are dragging the group down. The reason I read this
group is to get away from the drivel on alt.sex.garbage, and I'd hate to
think that, after finally working up the courage to post, I was contributing
in any way to the group's downfall.
(I think I'll lose the GirdleMan tag. I'd recently watched a video of the
film "DarkMan" and thought it'd make a good pseudonym. The more I think of it
now, the more it makes me cringe!)
The Lurker Formerly Known as GirdleMan. (Berlei panty girdle, black control top
tights. But you knew that anyway :>)
>3/ Make a sensible choice. You do not want the whole world in on your secret.
> Don't wear a long leg girdle to work - the legs show through when you sit.
Unless you wear skin tight jeans, or a badly designed girdle with a
lumpy bottom seam, there is very little danger of anyone spotting the
ends of the legs. I have often worn long leg girdles under trousers -
originally Playtex ICB, more recently Hickory, and never been able to
see the end of the legs. Suspenders (garters) are another matter.
Even with a panty girdle with hidden ones the lumps are quit
noticeable when you are sitting, though it is unlikely a casual
observer would either notice, or realise what they were. Incidentally
if you look carefully at fashion photos from the 50's or early 60's
you will be surprised how often you can see garter bumps.
The worst problem with the old (70's) ICB's was they had wavy lines of
latex inside the ends to grip the stockings. These left a very
distinctive pattern on the thighs. Several times I got trapped to
take the kids to the beach & was very worried someone would spot the
pattern.
.................
>4/ Stick with it. When I first resolved to wear girdles on a full time basis,
> I found it tough going. After 10 or so hours in a girdle, I found my
> enthusiasm waning for the first time in my life. However, I soon got used
> to it, and you will to. (To help the process along, I threw out all my
> old underwear - when all you've got are panties, bras and girdles, you
> don't have much of a choice. I also started wearing a firm control girdle
> when I came back from 2 week's vacation. I claimed that I had lost weight
> through dieting and so, even though I didn't feel like wearing a girdle
> some days, I had no choice but to put one on.)
Admire your determination. Sounds like the quotes from the corset
enthusiasts last century. They all said after a few weeks they didn't
suffer at all. Well I decided to give it a good test, so I wore a
girdle (mostly the aforementioned long leg cuff top Playtex ICB) &
stockings all day every day for 16 weeks, but never really got used to
it, and nearly every day would suffer periods of significant
discomfort - enough to disrupt my concentation. It wasn't too bad
when I could walk around, but at work I had to sit most of the time.
Now I usually put on a girdle in the morning, but take it off after
our walk, before going to work, though at the weekend I often wear it
all day.
Bunyip. Divine long straight girdle, Kayser sheer support stockings.
I am also looking for cotton thigh-length panties - kind of a cotton
girdle. There are some tape-pants-type panties like this at some stores,
but the crotch is not wide enough. There are a lot of men's lines of
underwear that come in thigh-length now, but I don't wear men's underwear
anymore.
Thanks,
db