Repost: report of incident with FreezoneOrg list owner Terrill Park
Terrence Brannon
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Hello, I voluntarily left Tampa Org about 1 year ago now. My name is
Terrence Brannon. Since then, I have been lurking in the Freezone. I
was on Terrill Park's [FreezoneOrg
list](http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FreezoneOrg/) for most of this
time. I have had a few incidents there which are leading to my
voluntary withdrawal from that discussion group.
Incident One: Robert Ducharme was removed from the FreezoneOrg list
because he discussed his alternative tech, R3X.
Incident Two: I sent an email to the FreezoneOrg list discussing some
negative effects of trying a Ken Ogger Self-Clearing exercise. I was
placed on moderated status for this.
Incident Three: I wrote an email based on the understanding that
Freezone is an all-encompassing term for both Standard and
Non-Standard Tech. I pointed out that a FreezoneOrg list should
encompass both and that the stated charter was narrowing the list
focus to only Standard Tech.
Here is Terrill Park's response:
> I am list owner of this forum. Its primarily for
> those who follow standard tech. I am also a member of
> Rons Orgs and I include them as standard tech. They do
> the same bridge up to OT 3, and train more auditors
> than the rest of the planet including COS.
>
> This though is a discussion forum not part of qual
> on the org board, and I'm pretty liberal.
>
> Promotion of non-standard tech is not allowed here.
> People who follow alternative freezone tech are
> allowed to post here. Usually they have a good
> grounding in scientology.
Incident Four: I linked to my survey document of all the various
Freezone practices - http://schemelab.jottit.com/scio-fz
> Please don't post links to your website again.
> You have linked to an OSA Black PR website attacking
> the Freezone. The journalistic integrity of this
> website is worse than that of the lowest scandal
> sheet,
> as evidenced by this snippet from it below.
>
> If you do it again you will be unsubscribed.
>
> bb
>
> "the commercial activity that was carried out in
> the camp was entirely illegal. There was selling of
> books, materials, courses without any documents or
> receipts - the money was just put in the pockets. This
> also means that there no taxes were paid on this
> money. Just imagine the condition of the person who
> bit by bit collects money from his "student salary"
> and, as a result, he has no confirmation at all that
> he gave the money and nobody is responsible for this.
> In other words, because of this money these people
> destroyed his human rights. "
Incident Five: I write the following farewell message to FreezoneOrg:
> I have thought of leaving this list before. And now I will leave it. I
> know that Diana and Terrill have excellent case and will handle my
> departure incident to the highest benefit of all 8 dynamics and I know
> neither harbors any permanent ill will towards me. Me on the other hand,
> I'm still rather low on the bridge and dont feel good about this at all.
>
> That being said, I value FULL information flow and hope that the
> terminals can decide good/bad on their own. Whereas here it seems that
> people want to STIFLE information flow and build a paradise based on
> isolation from apparently unwholeseome influences... not a crowd I want
> to be around.
>
> I am not happy about leaving and I am a bit sad about Diana's parting
> comments. But I feel condemned and dont think any amount of fighting
> back is going to change the opinions that Seth or Diana hold about me.
>
> Good bye and good luck.
>
> I plan to post my rationale for departure at A.R.S. FYI.
>
>
Heidrun Beer
wrote:
Don't discuss moose on a deer list. Find a deer list.
Or a more general game list. It's a part of netiquette
to honor a list's rules and definition of topics.
Heidrun Beer
Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training
http://www.sgmt.at
http://www.RecastReality.org
metaper...@gmail.com
>
> Don't discuss moose on a deer list. Find a deer list.
> Or a more general game list. It's a part of netiquette
> to honor a list's rules and definition of topics.
Yes, you are right. I have to agree. I was trying to change the list's
rule and definition of topics. It was a form of protest. And I did it
as protest as opposed to discussion.
But please notice incident 4. In this case, what I see is a person
attempting to censor me because I linked to a site critical of the
Freezone. I dont concur with censorship. What I concur with is people
using critical thinking to assess for themselves. I relist incident
four for your review:
Heidrun Beer
I understand! It's obviously the wrong list for you and you
will feel better without it :-)
dapperdobbs
Heidrun Beer wrote:
> I understand! It's obviously the wrong list for you and you
> will feel better without it :-)
>
posts, but it occurred to me that maybe referring him to something
like "A Handbook for Preclears" or "Self Analysis" might help clear
things up. LRH was a *very* compassionate man, and somewhere said
words to the effect that he was always willing to help. Whoever this
guy is, he does not sound like an SP - more like a few mistakes
leading to a big ARC break or the equivalent in common parlance 'a big
disappointment'.
We all deal with the apparent conflict of what we perceive, and what
is actually there. It's a question of ARC.
And ... like I said, I haven't read any previous posts and have no
frame of reference.
Heidrun Beer
It's basically about Scientology's old Achilles heel:
thinking/living in a box.
Some people don't like that, even if the box is good.
dapperdobbs
it's interesting to look at the world in terms of boxes (I'm kind of
joking here). I can see how working for the proverbial IBM
Corporation, or the proverbial Government Bureaucracy, can be seen as
living in a box, but are the disciplines of mathematics, engineering,
or accounting also a box? Or are these things legitimately perceivable
as things which provide a way out of a box? Any language is, arguably,
a box - there are rules, restrictions, and one must use only words
within that language (designating all other words not accepted as
"foreign") - but the goal is freedom to express onself. Maybe in broad
terms, the goal is to get out of any box - but what is that?
Heidrun Beer
Include all other dynamics, as LRH envisioned in his booklet
"the dynamics and the tone scale"?
It's a quite improbably concept as long as some of them are hostile
and ex-clusive, but if WE are hostile and ex-clusive, it can
never happen.
Homer Wilson Smith
> I understand! It's obviously the wrong list for you and you
> will feel better without it :-)
Yes garbage cans are for garbage.
Unless you are garbage, why jump in?
Homer
Homer Wilson Smith
> We all deal with the apparent conflict of what we perceive, and what
> is actually there. It's a question of ARC.
Enforced Reality that is.
Homer
bb
wrote:
Indeed.
He linked to the OSA website attacking freezoners. My
friends. Full of garbage!
He wasn't unsubscribed, just told that such references were
unacceptable.
So he comes here and ARS to whine.
Humbly tendered as a gift to ARS and ACT. :)
bb
Homer Wilson Smith
> He linked to the OSA website attacking freezoners. My
> friends. Full of garbage!
>
> He wasn't unsubscribed, just told that such references were
> unacceptable.
Threats of unsubscription are the same as unsubscribed.
The free zone run by you assholes is as bad as a Nazi
Concentration Camp.
Homer
Mickel
"Homer Wilson Smith" <ho...@adore2.lightlink.com> wrote in message
news:47c3...@news2.lightlink.com...
Talking of Nazi Concentration Camps, you already got em' ain't you Homer?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0Oqa-oHoOo
Have a nice day
Him
bb
wrote:
This is a public board with no moderation in effect. I don't
recall you ever moderating anything.
However a private forum is a bit likes one's home, or castle if
you will
for us brits. If some guests are disagreeable one may ask them to
behave or leave. One may personally find there behaviour quite
tolerable, but the other party guests may take offence. And I have
experienced that.
One has to do the best one can as a good host.
bb