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KONCHOK PENDAY

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TECHTALK #37: MASTERING UCP

APRIL 06 2003: short sig
[Minor revision 22 SEPTEMEBER 2002]
[Minor revision 27 March 2002]


There are several stages of
achievement to master UCP.

For some, of course, the first step is
to *STOP LECTURING* ABOUT UCP
long enough to realize that they have
not read the materials, never done any
UCP, and don't know anything about it.

We know, however, that $pyontologists
are often far too brain damaged to do this,
and are simply unable to grasp the radical
concept that UCP IS *NOT* $CIENTOLOGY!

Most normal people start with an hour or so of
READING. The "N-Lightenment Now!" article
and UCP CHART are the critical ingredients of
a basic acquaintance with UCP. Of course
this can be bypassed with direct experience
by getting a session from a UCPeon, doing
a session solo with the Viritual Witness or even
giving a session with some verbal instruction,
but I am most concerned with self-taught UCP,
since there are about six billion latent UCPeons,
and VERY few UCP teachers at the present time.

When you know what the few simple non-rote
questions are, how to make them up yourself,
and have a very general idea of the UCP CHART,
you are ready to jump into session and get some
ACTUAL EXPERIENCE *DOING* UCP YOURSELF.

The next stage is to *DO* some sessions to FULL
CIRCLE COMPLETION. By doing this you develop
understanding of HOW to do UCP, WHAT happens
in a session, and what events indicate completion.
This might take four minutes . . . or four hours.

It doesn't make much difference whether you
have a seasoned expert witness, use the Free
Virtual Witness Program, or just ask yourself
the questions . . . AS LONG AS YOU *DO* IT!

Just start to *DO* UCP, however you best can!

Use any or all of the opportunities it offers you.

Once you have some EXPERIENCE of UCP, it
is a very good idea to read more of the Tech
Talk articles to pick up more of the fine points.

COMPARING the theory to your own practical
life experience is profoundly useful in learning.

Of course . . . THAT IS UCP ITSELF!

When you are DOING sessions to completion,
you should start to SEE CHANGES in your life.
This develops the certainty that what you are
doing has relevance to and impact on *LIFE*.

If you just keep doing sessions and LOOKING at
the CHART, you will eventually *SEE* what your
ACTUAL tone level is. This is often astonishing!

As you keep on doing sessions, you will SEE your
actual tone level gradually rise. This is a *VERY*
powerful experience, as you realize that you ARE
in real control of developing your own awareness.

Coming up through TONE ZERO=FAILURE=DEATH
is an extraordinary shift from the unreal to the real
and fundamentally changes your perception of . . .

EVERYTHING!

By that point it is fundamentally impossible to lose
interest in UCP, and everyone I have seen make it
that far has in fact become a spokesman for UCP.

Beyond that, teaching UCP to others who transform
their own awareness, and teach it in turn to others,
is profoundly rewarding in a way difficult to describe.

The apparent next stage, building a community of
those who have made it up through tone zero, now
seems both tantalizingly close . . . and elusively far.

BUT COMING NEARER WITH
EVERY NEW BODHISATTVA!


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Integrator: Universal Conscious Plot:
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Formulator: Universal Conscious Practice:
http://net-prophet.net/ucp/
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http://net-prophet.net/gc/


))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

N-LIGHTENMENT! . . . RIGHT! . . . NOW!
TOTALLY FREE! http://net-prophet.net/ucp/

*DO* THE UNIVERSAL CONSCIOUS PRACTICE!
*COMPARE* PAST AND FUTURE TO PRESENT!

YOU CAN RAISE YOUR OWN AWARENESS NOW!
USE THE FREE VIRTUAL WITNESS ONLINE NOW!

UCP: EXPANDING CONSCIOUSNESS
SINCE THE SECOND MILLENNIUM,
ONE BODHISATTVA AT A TIME!

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WIRKLICHT

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Apr 6, 2003, 5:59:33 PM4/6/03
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> but I am most concerned with self-taught UCP,
> since there are about six billion latent UCPeons,

> and VERY few UCP teachers at the present time.

yer stuff either IS complete and speaks for itself - multiplies itself -
reaches those, who reach for it...
and NO super-human-wannabe-important-knowitall-TReacher is necessary... and
the plain-human-Originater of the stuff can go and do something else - like
expanding along his own dynamics...

OR..

is IS INcomplete and all are still in the same old guru-soup - substituting
*earlier similar* dishes...
and the stuff might do with a little improvement to meet the above outlined
idea?l scene.

..

Wi*L

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"Your focus determines your reality" www.freesolo.de.vu


KONCHOK PENDAY

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KP:


>> but I am most concerned with self-taught UCP,
>> since there are about six billion latent UCPeons,
>
>> and VERY few UCP teachers at the present time.


>yer stuff either IS complete and speaks for itself -
>multiplies itself - reaches those, who reach for it...

Sorry!

Only PEOPLE speak, mulitply, and reach.

My articles do not speak for themselves.

They are MY speech written down.

I speak through them.

But then I still need to
get you to READ them.

And then to *DO* UCP.

>and NO super-human-wannabe-important-knowitall-TReacher is necessary...

That's good, because I am not that.

However, from experience it seems
clear that UCP teachers are valuable.

>and the plain-human-Originater of the stuff can go and do something else -

Sure.

I can do anything I like.

But I'm highly focussed on UCP.

>like expanding along his own dynamics...

I'm expanding my
bodhisattva dynamic.

It's slower that I want,
but faster than it was!

There are 12 already!

>OR..
>
>is IS INcomplete and all are still in the same old guru-soup - substituting
>*earlier similar* dishes...

You are confusing UCP with something else.

DOING UCP might help you differentiate.

>and the stuff might do with a little improvement
>to meet the above outlined idea?l scene.

Maybe!

I certainly have not been able to
get YOU do DO UCP AND SEE.

NOR to stop lecturing about it!

>..
>
>Wi*L

WIRKLICHT

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KONCHOK PENDAY <K...@net-prophet.net>

=================================
>
>
> KP:
> >> but I am most concerned with self-taught UCP,
> >> since there are about six billion latent UCPeons,
> >
> >> and VERY few UCP teachers at the present time.
>
>
> >yer stuff either IS complete and speaks for itself -
> >multiplies itself - reaches those, who reach for it...
>
> Sorry!
>
> Only PEOPLE speak, mulitply, and reach.
>
> My articles do not speak for themselves.

youre a hoot. what funny considerations you have about communicating via
mest ;-)

> They are MY speech written down.

sure!

> I speak through them.

okay.

> But then I still need to
> get you to READ them.

what - me? - particularly *me*? - nah - need no efforting to get me read
yer posts. me愀 *interested* and reads them per my own decision. Could as
well stop doing so - per my own decision - but me finds them mostly
inspiring - doesnt matter at all in which time-frame you wrote them. -
admitting its far more convenient you keep reposting stuff in turns.
Why not be nice to Homer and have him add your write to the Roboposter...?

> And then to *DO* UCP.

Why should me process a "time-track", which doesnt exist for me?

> >and NO super-human-wannabe-important-knowitall-TReacher is necessary...
>
> That's good, because I am not that.

Good to hear what you愉e NOT. NOT-IS-ness is pretty cool, eh?

> However, from experience it seems
> clear that UCP teachers are valuable.

but all inFormation IS on yer site + + - what else? *shrug*

> >and the plain-human-Originater of the stuff can go and do something
else -
>
> Sure.
>
> I can do anything I like.

WonderFull!

> But I'm highly focussed on UCP.
>
> >like expanding along his own dynamics...
>
> I'm expanding my
> bodhisattva dynamic.

Good!

> It's slower that I want,
> but faster than it was!
>
> There are 12 already!

yes! - since when? - where is #13, #14, #15, #16....#N?

> >OR..
> >
> >is IS INcomplete and all are still in the same old guru-soup -
substituting
> >*earlier similar* dishes...
>
> You are confusing UCP with something else.

just pointed at some similaritoes in modus operandi of systems.

> DOING UCP might help you differentiate.
>
> >and the stuff might do with a little improvement
> >to meet the above outlined idea?l scene.
>
> Maybe!
>
> I certainly have not been able to
> get YOU do DO UCP AND SEE.

Even the smudge could SEE the Titanic was going to hit an iceberg, while the
Captain on the Bridge THOUGHT it was unsinkable - until he SAW his own
"session-report" as evidence.

> NOR to stop lecturing about it!

Did Captain KP God愀-Kirk eva listen?

love, 4 life and freedom!


"wilka" = M


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KP:
>> >> but I am most concerned with self-taught UCP,
>> >> since there are about six billion latent UCPeons,
>> >
>> >> and VERY few UCP teachers at the present time.

Wirklicht:


>> >yer stuff either IS complete and speaks for itself -
>> >multiplies itself - reaches those, who reach for it...

KP:


>> Sorry!
>>
>> Only PEOPLE speak, mulitply, and reach.
>>
>> My articles do not speak for themselves.

Wirklicht:


>youre a hoot. what funny considerations you have about communicating via
>mest ;-)

>> They are MY speech written down.

>sure!

>> I speak through them.

>okay.

>> But then I still need to
>> get you to READ them.

>what - me? - particularly *me*? - nah - need no efforting to get me read
>yer posts. me愀 *interested* and reads them per my own decision. Could as
>well stop doing so - per my own decision - but me finds them mostly
>inspiring - doesnt matter at all in which time-frame you wrote them. -
>admitting its far more convenient you keep reposting stuff in turns.


Not particularly you,
more about 6 billion.

But YOU still are not DOING ucp.

>Why not be nice to Homer and have him add your write to the Roboposter...?

I've been nice to Homer.
It doesn't make any difference.
He's still a flaming psychOTic.
Many techtalks were in the roboposter
. . . until Homer deleted them.
Eventually we will have UCP hosted
on Gene's server, and maybe even a
roboposter Homer does not control1

>> And then to *DO* UCP.

>Why should me process a "time-track", which doesnt exist for me?

You THINK UCP is about a "time-track",
but then you don't know what it is, as you
have not DONE UCP. Unless you have no
universe and no experience, UCP works well.

>> >and NO super-human-wannabe-important-knowitall-TReacher is necessary...

>> That's good, because I am not that.

>Good to hear what you愉e NOT. NOT-IS-ness is pretty cool, eh?

You also cannot differentiate NOT-IS from DIFFERENTIATION

>> However, from experience it seems
>> clear that UCP teachers are valuable.

>but all inFormation IS on yer site + + - what else? *shrug*

Six billion people have not read my
site and are *NOT* DOING UCP.

>> >and the plain-human-Originater of the stuff can go and do something
>else -

>> Sure.
>>
>> I can do anything I like.

>WonderFull!

>> But I'm highly focussed on UCP.

>> >like expanding along his own dynamics...

>> I'm expanding my
>> bodhisattva dynamic.

>Good!

>> It's slower that I want,
>> but faster than it was!
>>
>> There are 12 already!

>yes! - since when? - where is #13, #14, #15, #16....#N?

That's what I want to know too!

YOU are in NO danger of becoming number #13!

>> >OR..
>> >
>> >is IS INcomplete and all are still in the same old guru-soup -
>substituting
>> >*earlier similar* dishes...

>> You are confusing UCP with something else.

>just pointed at some similaritoes in modus operandi of systems.

You did?

What about differences?

>> DOING UCP might help you differentiate.

>> >and the stuff might do with a little improvement
>> >to meet the above outlined idea?l scene.

>> Maybe!

>> I certainly have not been able to
>> get YOU do DO UCP AND SEE.

>Even the smudge could SEE the Titanic was going to hit an iceberg, while the
>Captain on the Bridge THOUGHT it was unsinkable - until he SAW his own
>"session-report" as evidence.

Is this relevant to something?

>> NOR to stop lecturing about it!

>Did Captain KP God愀-Kirk eva listen?

Does he even exist . . .
beyond your imagination?

>love, 4 life and freedom!
>
>
>"wilka" = M

DO UCP AND SEE!


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WILKA

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KONCHOK PENDAY <K...@net-prophet.net> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
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>
>
> KP:

> >> But then I still need to
> >> get you to READ them.
>
> >what - me? - particularly *me*? - nah - need no efforting to get me read
> >yer posts. me愀 *interested* and reads them per my own decision. Could as
> >well stop doing so - per my own decision - but me finds them mostly
> >inspiring - doesnt matter at all in which time-frame you wrote them. -
> >admitting its far more convenient you keep reposting stuff in turns.
>
>
> Not particularly you,

huh? - so you do NOT speak to *me*, when replying to my posts?

are you sure you can create effects on 'someone particular' with NOT
speaking
to them in particular?

> more about 6 billion.
>
> But YOU still are not DOING ucp.

you said "ucp is the essence of rational thinking"...

my ratio has served me well during the passed.

Thus - in order to *teach* me rational thinking and have you monitor *my*
brain-FUNctions, you would have to CONFUSE me prior to that.

your passed writings did the job only temporaily...

Have another go! Confuse me! - free temporary offer.

> >Why not be nice to Homer and have him add your write to the
Roboposter...?
>
> I've been nice to Homer.

*rephrasing* - perhaps just be yourself, which is far nicer than
you "trying to be nice".

> It doesn't make any difference.

*IT* never made any difference - only *YOU* CAN.

> He's still a flaming psychOTic.

flunk! - (thats not much of a difference;-)

[...]


> >> And then to *DO* UCP.
>
> >Why should me process a "time-track", which doesnt exist for me?
>
> You THINK UCP is about a "time-track",
> but then you don't know what it is, as you
> have not DONE UCP. Unless you have no
> universe and no experience, UCP works well.

continuing doing what me does in my universe ;-)

> >> >and NO super-human-wannabe-important-knowitall-TReacher is
necessary...
>
> >> That's good, because I am not that.
>
> >Good to hear what you愉e NOT. NOT-IS-ness is pretty cool, eh?
>
> You also cannot differentiate NOT-IS from DIFFERENTIATION

*yawn* - thats "boring" at best - statement isnt confusing nor suprising at
all...

> >> However, from experience it seems
> >> clear that UCP teachers are valuable.
>
> >but all inFormation IS on yer site + + - what else? *shrug*
>
> Six billion people have not read my
> site and are *NOT* DOING UCP.

*NOT* *NOT* *NOT* *NOT* *NOT* *NOT*

[...]


> >> I'm expanding my
> >> bodhisattva dynamic.
>
> >Good!
>
> >> It's slower that I want,
> >> but faster than it was!
> >>
> >> There are 12 already!
>
> >yes! - since when? - where is #13, #14, #15, #16....#N?
>
> That's what I want to know too!
>
> YOU are in NO danger of becoming number #13!

Good! - becomeing a numb!er at the bottom of anyones list, didnt sound any
appealing.

me regards every terminal on any end of my lines #1.
most like it.

[...]


> >just pointed at some similaritoes in modus operandi of systems.
>
> You did?
>
> What about differences?

IN-side the systems have different contents - looking at both from
3feet-OUT-side they have similar qualities.

[...]


> >Even the smudge could SEE the Titanic was going to hit an iceberg, while
the
> >Captain on the Bridge THOUGHT it was unsinkable - until he SAW his own
> >"session-report" as evidence.
>
> Is this relevant to something?

"future"

> >> NOR to stop lecturing about it!
>
> >Did Captain KP God愀-Kirk eva listen?
>
> Does he even exist . . .
> beyond your imagination?

...LISTEN?!!

ml

wilka

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