ESSAY: Hubbard's research methods revealed
Wulfen - www.total.net/~wulfen/scn/
<chr...@lutefisk.OISPAMNOdemon.co.uk> wrote:
(SNIP)
>Here Hubbard comes up with the idea of Earth being a "prison planet",
>the basic rationale for Xenu dumping people here in the first place:
>
> LRH: The entheta beings ... I think in recent times entheta beings
> have been triumphing in certain locales over theta and I think earth
> is a prison planet to some degree because the entheta beings have
> pretty well won out over the people that are here.
I am utterly amazed by this - Hubbard using the phrase "entheta
beings". Without hearing about this lecture I started using the phrase
"entheta beings" as a humourous tagline on IRC EFNET #scientology (and
#scientologyLIES later). No wonder some Scientologists seem to find it
such a "twitch phrase"... (Am I on-Source for using it, I wonder now?)
> MSH: You got a big drop on that.
>
> LRH: I did? Entheta beings have worn out all the people who are here
> and what I got a big drop on is just the .... Well, now we can do a
> rehabilitation job throughout this part of the universe and we can do
> a rehabilitation job on straightening out these entheta beings and
> theta. Because all the entheta beings are running around - they're
> here, out of line. They may be the product of a union. The entheta
> beings [unintelligible] or something of the sort. They didn't do what
> they were told.
Yah, those big bad entheta beings, keeping Scientologists down. Like
you, me, and the rest of the people on this prison planet who think
that Scientology is a cult and its teachings are a crock... hehehe
> MSH: You got a drop there.
>
> [...]
>
> LRH: Well that's what theta did. Now, theta sitting right out in space
> some place, other planets, and so forth, all of a sudden says, the
> hell with these bodies and beings, we've got a heck of a lot of theta
> beings ...
>
> MSH: Bang! Needle is dropping.
>
> LRH: ... who have been beaten by entheta beings.
>
> MSH: Bang!
*smack!*
*smack!*
*smack!*
Our entheta beats your theta in any epoch you can postulate! Haha!
> LRH: And the battleground is too rough and these things have mutinied
> so let's put 'em all in one place and lock 'em on to earth. They gotta
> stay on earth 'til we get 'em straightened out. They'll send somebody
> down here sooner or later and he'll straighten them out.
>
> MSH: You're getting drops in needle on all this material.
Yah, that's it... The reason things are going badly for the
Scientology cult is that all these super-powerful entheta beings are
keeping theta beings like Scientologists prisoner on Teegeack. (Hehe.)
Does this "entheta being" thing get filed under Hubbard's raving
lunacy or under his frothing lunacy?
(SNIP)
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Subject: Re: ESSAY: Hubbard's research methods revealed
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:05:39 -0500
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Atlantic Canada, you should reset to -0400. (-0330 in Newfoundland).
So, have the military been called to dig out Halifax from the snow yet? :^)
Ron of that ilk.
Chris Owen
with Scientology's bizarre mythos: a shabby, run-down heaven with
radioactive statues, Xenu, the Fifth Invader Force with "incredibly
horrible hands" (sic) and so on and so forth.
One particularly curious point is that his original research notes have
never been published. They probably show him to be a complete
fruitcake, if a fascinating lecture entitled "Electromagnetic Scouting:
Battle of the Universes" (April 1952, exact date unknown) is anything to
go by. Back in 1952, this lecture was just another part of Scientology
- there wasn't anything secret or, for that matter, sacred about it
(this was in the days when it was explicitly stated that it was a
science, not a religion). It wasn't until the start of the 1960s that
such material began to be designated "confidential" as part of the OT
courses. Access to this particular tape is highly restricted these
days, so presumably it forms part of the OT materials.
The lecture features Mary Sue Hubbard auditing her husband. Ron is
trying to locate and question "theta entities" - his term at the time
for what were later termed Body Thetans - to find out their purposes.
The Hubbards were using the first version of the E-meter (the Matheson
version) to try out various ideas and seeing if they caused a reaction
on the meter, indicating a response on the part of the BTs.
As the session begins, Ron declares that "I am, for the first time in
ages, completely without a somatic" - the implication being that, as
somatics ("a pain or ache sensation") are in Hubbard's view caused by
BTs, the BTs have all run off and hidden to avoid being exposed by the
E-meter. Sure enough, says Ron, "I got a notion they're all standing
about 20 feet from me, at least."
The question-and-answer session gives a vivid insight into the way
Hubbard worked out his mythos:
LRH: Well here we made this what we've been calling Home
Universe. That's actually the MEST Universe...
MSH: Dropping there.
LRH: ...and was actually the Home Universe and we were just getting
along fine and the reason we settled off and just started to make the
Home universe and so on and dropped off the main body of theta is
because theta started expanding. No more than that. It just started
expanding. I think there was probably something wrong in its vicinity
or something of the sort.
MSH: The needle's rising.
LRH: Something wrong in its vicinity.
MSH: Drop there. What was wrong in its vicinity?
LRH: It was getting encroached on, so it's sort of a divide and rule.
It's the whole modus operandi of the other universes. They started
riding up the main body of theta to some degree. No, no drop. Anyway,
the theta universe just suddenly got ambitious and decided to make a
universe and picked up everything and...
MSH: Your needle dropped...
----------
MSH: Well, what are these entities composed of?
LRH: What..?
MSH: Well, what would you call this kind of stuff?
LRH: Well, it may be first universe stuff - and stuff ...
MSH: Yeah.
LRH: ... maybe twenty-ninth universe stuff - fifteenth universe
stuff - twenty-first universe stuff - thirty-three universe ... is
there a thirty-three universe?
MSH: No drop.
LRH: No ...
MSH: They come from a lot of different universes.
----------
Here Hubbard comes up with the idea of Earth being a "prison planet",
the basic rationale for Xenu dumping people here in the first place:
LRH: The entheta beings ... I think in recent times entheta beings
have been triumphing in certain locales over theta and I think earth
is a prison planet to some degree because the entheta beings have
pretty well won out over the people that are here.
MSH: You got a big drop on that.
LRH: I did? Entheta beings have worn out all the people who are here
and what I got a big drop on is just the .... Well, now we can do a
rehabilitation job throughout this part of the universe and we can do
a rehabilitation job on straightening out these entheta beings and
theta. Because all the entheta beings are running around - they're
here, out of line. They may be the product of a union. The entheta
beings [unintelligible] or something of the sort. They didn't do what
they were told.
MSH: You got a drop there.
[...]
LRH: Well that's what theta did. Now, theta sitting right out in space
some place, other planets, and so forth, all of a sudden says, the
hell with these bodies and beings, we've got a heck of a lot of theta
beings ...
MSH: Bang! Needle is dropping.
LRH: ... who have been beaten by entheta beings.
MSH: Bang!
LRH: And the battleground is too rough and these things have mutinied
so let's put 'em all in one place and lock 'em on to earth. They gotta
stay on earth 'til we get 'em straightened out. They'll send somebody
down here sooner or later and he'll straighten them out.
MSH: You're getting drops in needle on all this material.
----------
Hubbard goes on to slap Christianity and religion as a whole (which
gives a whole new perspective to Scientology's accusations of its
opponents as anti-religious). In point of fact, his comments in this
session were of a piece with his many other denigrations of established
religions, notably Christianity but also Islam and Hinduism. (This is
perhaps not surprising; only six years previously he had been a member
of Jack Parsons' black magic coven.) He also comes up with the generic
name of the MEST beings:
LRH: ... These entheta beings are controlled over by religion. I think
there was an experiment one time that was a religious experiment.
MSH: You dropped. Needle's dropping
LRH: Big experiment on religion.
MSH: Is that when Christianity came into being?
LRH: That's an entheta operation. No drop?
MSH: Slight.
LRH: It's got to be an entheta operation.
MSH: Is it?
LRH: Entheta - The entheta is actually, like anything that is under
duress, these entheta beings - we shouldn't be calling them entheta
beings - we ought to be calling them Targs... That's the proper name.
MSH: Crash!
LRH: Targs - Some of them are Targs. There are several other kinds.
There are other kinds than Targs.
MSH: Where did you get the name - Targ?
LRH: That's common in a lot of theta languages. It means slave.
Entheta slave.
MSH: You got a drop
LRH: Lower order slave. Body holders - horse holders - boot
polishers. Entheta is really [unintelligible]. I guess there may be
some other prison planets out in this galaxy.
MSH: Are there any other planets which are [unintelligible].
LRH: I think flying saucers right now that's coming to dump off more
theta beings - ah, dump off more entheta, entheta-ed beings. Targs.
MSH: Mmm.
LRH: What they're dropping down here is Targ ridden. It's a disease -
somebody gets Targ ridden - gets unbalanced. The thing to do is not so
much how to know how to get rid of the Targs but how to straighten out
Targs. - No drop?
MSH: No drop - Targ doesn't want to be straightened out.
----------
What I find particularly fascinating about this bizarre auditing session
is that it shows exactly how Hubbard came up with his ideas. Prof.
Martin Gardner wrote an essay on Dianetics in his classic book "[Fads
and Fallacies] In the Name of Science" (1953) (an online version is at
http://wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de/~cowen/essays/gardner.html) in which
he analysed the flaws inherent in Hubbardian auditing:
Perhaps the most revealing parts of Dr. Winter's book ["Dianetics: A
Doctor's Report", Dr. J.A. Winter, 1951] are the records of his own
dianetic sessions - revealing because they indicate with unmistakable
starkness the manner in which the auditor suggests to a patient what
sort of things he is supposed to recall. The patient, it must be
remembered, in the vast majority of cases, is already familiar with
dianetic theory... The therapist's questions are of such a "leading"
character that even Dr. Winter admits they "encourage fantasy."
Hubbard himself admits that many patients indulge in fantasies about
their uterine experiences. "The patient tells about father and
mother," he writes, "and where they are sitting and what the bedroom
looks like, and yet there he is in the womb." Hubbard rejects the
theory "that the tortured foetus develops extrasensory perception in
order to see what is coming next." This is a good theory, he admits,
but must be rejected in view of the fact that the foetus has no mind
and therefore lacks clairvoyant powers.
A Dianetics "patient" undergoing auditing would typically recall a
variety of incidents, some undoubtedly genuine buried memories and some
patent fantasies, such as the aforementioned uterine experiences.
Transcripts of Dianetics auditing sessions reprinted in the "Research &
Discovery Series" volumes show that there was a great deal of free
association going on in the "patient's" mind, albeit in many cases
guided by the auditor's leading questions.
The Dianetics movement eventually broke up when Hubbard insisted on
auditing "past lives", which had even less plausibility than so-called
"sperm dreams" in the uterus. He and other supporters - many of whom
were, significantly, science-fiction readers who had read his original
article on Dianetics in "Astounding Science Fiction" in June 1950 -
reported unearthing memories of past lives on Earth and in outer space.
A collection of Scientologists' accounts of past lives was eventually
published in "Have You Lived Before This Life?" (1960), which for my
money just pips "A History of Man" for the title of weirdest book ever
published by Scientology. The accounts, which really are hysterically
funny, include a those of a man who fell in love with "a robot decked
out as a beautiful red-haired girl", another man who recalled being run
over by a Martian bishop driving a steam roller, the later critic Cyril
Vosper's recollections of life as an intergalactic walrus which perished
after falling out of a flying saucer and the story of "a very happy
being who strayed to the planet Nostra 23,064,000,000 years ago". Freud
would have had a field day.
It's easy to see from this lecture how such bizarreness originated. Put
together a science fiction fan (and writer, in Hubbard's case) and an
auditor. Add a large dose of free association and a scientifically
unproven theory of what E-meter readings represent. Voila - the result
is a stream-of-consciousness science fiction story with biofeedback, as
measured by the E-meter, as the editor. It did not matter that it would
not have passed muster as fiction, let alone as scientifically proven
fact. Hubbard believed that his foundation stone - the ideas of the
thetan and that thought could be detected electronically - was
completely secure. The "Battle of the Universes" tape shows vividly how
elaborate was the superstructure which he built so casually on such
fragile foundations.
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Phil Scott
On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:35:50 +0000, Chris Owen
<chr...@lutefisk.OISPAMNOdemon.co.uk> wrote:
Phil Scott
Phil Scott
On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:35:50 +0000, Chris Owen
<chr...@lutefisk.OISPAMNOdemon.co.uk> wrote:
Phil Scott
www.total.net/~wulfen/scn/ <wul...@NOSPAMtotal.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:35:50 +0000, Chris Owen
><chr...@lutefisk.OISPAMNOdemon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>(SNIP)
>
>>Here Hubbard comes up with the idea of Earth being a "prison planet",
>>the basic rationale for Xenu dumping people here in the first place:
>>
>> LRH: The entheta beings ... I think in recent times entheta beings
>> have been triumphing in certain locales over theta and I think earth
>> is a prison planet to some degree because the entheta beings have
>> pretty well won out over the people that are here.
>
>I am utterly amazed by this - Hubbard using the phrase "entheta
>beings". Without hearing about this lecture I started using the phrase
>"entheta beings" as a humourous tagline on IRC EFNET #scientology (and
>#scientologyLIES later). No wonder some Scientologists seem to find it
>such a "twitch phrase"... (Am I on-Source for using it, I wonder now?)
>
>> MSH: You got a big drop on that.
>>
>> LRH: I did? Entheta beings have worn out all the people who are here
>> and what I got a big drop on is just the .... Well, now we can do a
>> rehabilitation job throughout this part of the universe and we can do
>> a rehabilitation job on straightening out these entheta beings and
>> theta. Because all the entheta beings are running around - they're
>> here, out of line. They may be the product of a union. The entheta
>> beings [unintelligible] or something of the sort. They didn't do what
>> they were told.
>
>Yah, those big bad entheta beings, keeping Scientologists down. Like
>you, me, and the rest of the people on this prison planet who think
>that Scientology is a cult and its teachings are a crock... hehehe
Actually Hubbard considered at least 98% of people including
scientologists entheta beings. Thus the contual internal attacks and
ruthlessness attitude toward even his staff. I think his continual PR
to the scientologists that they were the best was just a PR tactic,
ego appeal.... he felt justified in lying to them because he felt
apparently it was necessary to lie to 'targs' in order to control
them. And he did do a stunning job of controlling people, even after
his death for 10 years. Even now, the brainwash lingers on.
Was he right about the 'targ' influence? Thats another issue. My
view is that lying and stealing is never a solution. Deception? well
it seems there is a place for that. One does not give the enemy data
he needs to wreak destruction.
Best Regards, Phil Scott
Steve Zadarnowski
> LRH: Entheta - The entheta is actually, like anything that is under
> duress, these entheta beings - we shouldn't be calling them entheta
> beings - we ought to be calling them Targs... That's the proper name.
>
> MSH: Crash!
>
> LRH: Targs - Some of them are Targs. There are several other kinds.
> There are other kinds than Targs.
>
> MSH: Where did you get the name - Targ?
>
> LRH: That's common in a lot of theta languages. It means slave.
> Entheta slave.
Great post. Targs? ROFL! Now we go a new name for Scienos...
S
Dave Bird
tefisk.OISPAMNOdemon.co.uk> writes:
>Something that's puzzled me for a long time is just how Hubbard came up
>with Scientology's bizarre mythos: a shabby, run-down heaven with
>radioactive statues, Xenu, the Fifth Invader Force with "incredibly
>horrible hands" (sic) and so on and so forth.
>The lecture features Mary Sue Hubbard auditing her husband. Ron is
>trying to locate and question "theta entities" - his term at the time
>for what were later termed Body Thetans - to find out their purposes.
>The Hubbards were using the first version of the E-meter (the Matheson
>version) to try out various ideas and seeing if they caused a reaction
>on the meter, indicating a response on the part of the BTs.
>
>As the session begins, Ron declares that "I am, for the first time in
>ages, completely without a somatic" - the implication being that, as
>somatics ("a pain or ache sensation") are in Hubbard's view caused by
>BTs, the BTs have all run off and hidden to avoid being exposed by the
>E-meter. Sure enough, says Ron, "I got a notion they're all standing
>about 20 feet from me, at least."
>
>The question-and-answer session gives a vivid insight into the way
>Hubbard worked out his mythos:
Somewhere (possibly in BFM) is a description of "auditing" Ron
which went pretty much like this: he rambled on in free association,
the auditor did no more than indicate the reads. Very much
auditing == listening, very unlike usual practice. At other
times he self audited and wrote down his own notes.
It also reminds me of Koos's insane ramblings.
>It's easy to see from this lecture how such bizarreness originated. Put
>together a science fiction fan (and writer, in Hubbard's case) and an
>auditor. Add a large dose of free association and a scientifically
>unproven theory of what E-meter readings represent. Voila - the result
>is a stream-of-consciousness science fiction story with biofeedback, as
>measured by the E-meter, as the editor.
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:A collection of Scientologists' accounts of past lives was eventually
:published in "Have You Lived Before This Life?" (1960), which for my
:money just pips "A History of Man" for the title of weirdest book ever
:published by Scientology. The accounts, which really are hysterically
:funny, include a those of a man who fell in love with "a robot decked
:out as a beautiful red-haired girl", another man who recalled being run
:over by a Martian bishop driving a steam roller, the later critic Cyril
:Vosper's recollections of life as an intergalactic walrus which perished
:after falling out of a flying saucer and the story of "a very happy
:being who strayed to the planet Nostra 23,064,000,000 years ago".
:would have had a field day.
Vosper only mentions in his book having been a peasant and such boring past
lives :-)
This is in 'Mind Benders' chapter 5, 'Past Lives':
http://www.suburbia.net/~fun/scn/books/vosper/05.html
:It's easy to see from this lecture how such bizarreness originated. Put
:together a science fiction fan (and writer, in Hubbard's case) and an
:auditor. Add a large dose of free association and a scientifically
:unproven theory of what E-meter readings represent. Voila - the result
:is a stream-of-consciousness science fiction story with biofeedback, as
:measured by the E-meter, as the editor.
And, as stated in 'Mind Benders', by the direct encouragement of LRH Jr:
Those students were Scientologists who knew what was expected of them. I
was one of them. I knew past lives to be a proven fact - Hubbard has so
stated it. I knew that unless they could bring forth a past life with full
recall, pain, emotion, full perceptions, the lot, they would be regarded as
something less than real Scientologists.
No one even bothered to verify, or not, the recent past lives, which should
be traceable from extant records. Hubbard had mentioned Zapp Guns, Tractor
and Repeller Beams, Flying Saucers and Mother Ships and Galactic Empires in
his lectures. His son, L. Ron Hubbard, Junior, nicknamed "Nibs" and no
longer a Scientologist (rumour has it he is looking for a Flying Saucer
that crashed in the Gulf of Mexico), was one of the instructors on this
memorable course. When a student was having a lot of difficulty in making
his story or, rather, Past Life gel, Nibs would helpfully fill in bits.
Amazingly, many of the Past Lives sound like pulp comic "Flash Gordon meets
The Brain from Galaxy X", complete with Zapp Guns, et. al.
"Have You Lived Before This Life?" is palpable nonsense as far as a proof
of Past Lives is concerned. It can probably be put down to seventy-odd
vivid imaginations and the very prevalent habit on the part of
Scientologists to "prove" Hubbard right. What would happen to them if they
proved Hubbard wrong?
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creation of the universe in 7 days, talking burning bushes, virgin births,
Elija goin in a flaming chariot to another world, Solomon trapping spirits in a
bottle, demons tryin to eat yer soul - just a few of the better known in
western society, not to get way deep into Hindu and etc belief systems that
have been around for thousands ot years and are still practiced. Or is that
Tibetian. Hard to member sometimes, there's so much mythology on this planet
that all those silly people believe in....
Nice essay, Chris. Yer a good writer.
roger gonnet
Chris Owen <chr...@lutefisk.OISPAMNOdemon.co.uk> a écrit dans le message :
eUrQBXAm...@lutefisk.demon.co.uk...
> Something that's puzzled me for a long time is just how Hubbard came up
> with Scientology's bizarre mythos: a shabby, run-down heaven with
> radioactive statues, Xenu, the Fifth Invader Force with "incredibly
> horrible hands" (sic) and so on and so forth.
Great text, Chris, you are very good at studies.
.../...
> MSH: The needle's rising.
>
> LRH: Something wrong in its vicinity.
>
> MSH: Drop there. What was wrong in its vicinity?
(auditor's Q & Aing; sure, that was'nt defined yet.)
>
> LRH: It was getting encroached on, so it's sort of a divide and rule.
> It's the whole modus operandi of the other universes. They started
> riding up the main body of theta to some degree. No, no drop. Anyway,
> the theta universe just suddenly got ambitious and decided to make a
> universe and picked up everything and...
>
> MSH: Your needle dropped...
(auditor can't read anything from a meter, Q & Aing: sure, that was'nt yet
discovered, neither solocans. How come that with such a poor auditing and a
poor metering, Hubbard could come to precise conclusions???
bwahahahahahaah!!!)
>
> ----------
>
> MSH: Well, what are these entities composed of?
(Looks like the "psychoanalysis sessions" described by elrong; Q & A
continued)
>
> LRH: What..?
>
> MSH: Well, what would you call this kind of stuff?
(would it be called now being in session, or wanting to be brainwashed by
the pc??!!!!!) ROFLMAO!
>
> LRH: Well, it may be first universe stuff - and stuff ...
>
> MSH: Yeah.
>
> LRH: ... maybe twenty-ninth universe stuff - fifteenth universe
> stuff - twenty-first universe stuff - thirty-three universe ... is
> there a thirty-three universe?
>
> MSH: No drop.
>
> LRH: No ...
>
> MSH: They come from a lot of different universes.
(Auditor invalidating/evaluating for the pc!!!!! bwaf bawf bwaf... true
'nough, he had'nt found out laser techs and so on! - h&ad not yet been RPFed
thru ethics! had not yet lost a corpse.)
ohy yeah, Chris, that's a very very great one. Could be called: how a one
signle crazy man made miself crazier.
roger
mimus
<chr...@lutefisk.OISPAMNOdemon.co.uk> wrote:
This was GREAT.
Thanks, Chris.
(Now for the OTIII sessions!)
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I saw many people
reduced to
incoherent babbling,
stripping off clothes,
crawling around on the ground,
banging heads, limbs and other body parts against furniture and walls,
barking,
losing all sense of one's identity
and intense and persistent suicidal ideation.
--Andre Tabayoyon
Perry Scott <perryATezlinkDOTcom>
: Something that's puzzled me for a long time is just how Hubbard came up
: with Scientology's bizarre mythos: a shabby, run-down heaven with
: radioactive statues, Xenu, the Fifth Invader Force with "incredibly
: horrible hands" (sic) and so on and so forth.
In another essay, I believe you wrote about Hubbard's subjective reality
(i.e., "what's true for you is true."). If subjective reality is
applied first to "research" methods, you get the e-meter mythos and
auditing procedures producing random results. If you then further build
on this foundation of sand, one can create any reality one pleases.
: One particularly curious point is that his original research notes have
: never been published. They probably show him to be a complete
: fruitcake, if a fascinating lecture entitled "Electromagnetic Scouting:
: Battle of the Universes" (April 1952, exact date unknown) is anything to
: go by.
After taking the Comm Course, I went looking for Hubbard's "research"
notes. Finding none, I left Scientology. I can confirm that these
notes do not exist in any real form. I suspect these "research notes"
are in the form that you show below - Elron and Mary Sue get together,
babble about something, look at the meter, and call it "Scientifically
Proven".
While "fruitcake" may be more evaluation than necessary, I think it
could be said that Hubbard's "research" included the concept of
subjective reality - a concept which is totally at odds with accepted
scientific practice. The "fruitcake" label would turn off a loyal
Scientologist, which I assume is part of the target audience (or should
be).
: Back in 1952, this lecture was just another part of Scientology
good find, Chris. This is an excellent example of what Hubbard
considered to be "research", along with a demonstration of the truly
bizarre results which are generated. It's all subjective reality.
: As the session begins, Ron declares that "I am, for the first time in
: ages, completely without a somatic" - the implication being that, as
: somatics ("a pain or ache sensation") are in Hubbard's view caused by
: BTs, the BTs have all run off and hidden to avoid being exposed by the
: E-meter. Sure enough, says Ron, "I got a notion they're all standing
: about 20 feet from me, at least."
I guess it isn't paranoid schizophrenia if BTs (which don't exist)
really ARE trying to get you. :)
This next passage quite clearly shows that the meter is validating
whatever the PC happens to imagine. It wasn't real in Hubbard's
subjective reality until the e-meter said so.
: LRH: The entheta beings ... I think in recent times entheta beings
: have been triumphing in certain locales over theta and I think earth
: is a prison planet to some degree because the entheta beings have
: pretty well won out over the people that are here.
: MSH: You got a big drop on that.
: LRH: I did? Entheta beings have worn out all the people who are here
: and what I got a big drop on is just the ....
: Hubbard goes on to slap Christianity and religion as a whole (which
: gives a whole new perspective to Scientology's accusations of its
: opponents as anti-religious). In point of fact, his comments in this
: session were of a piece with his many other denigrations of established
: religions, notably Christianity but also Islam and Hinduism. (This is
: perhaps not surprising; only six years previously he had been a member
: of Jack Parsons' black magic coven.) He also comes up with the generic
: name of the MEST beings:
Thanks. This insight gets put on the Comparative Theology page.
: What I find particularly fascinating about this bizarre auditing session
: is that it shows exactly how Hubbard came up with his ideas. Prof.
: Martin Gardner wrote an essay on Dianetics in his classic book "[Fads
: and Fallacies] In the Name of Science" (1953) (an online version is at
: http://wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de/~cowen/essays/gardner.html) in which
: he analysed the flaws inherent in Hubbardian auditing:
: Perhaps the most revealing parts of Dr. Winter's book ["Dianetics: A
: Doctor's Report", Dr. J.A. Winter, 1951] are the records of his own
: dianetic sessions - revealing because they indicate with unmistakable
: starkness the manner in which the auditor suggests to a patient what
: sort of things he is supposed to recall. The patient, it must be
: remembered, in the vast majority of cases, is already familiar with
: dianetic theory... The therapist's questions are of such a "leading"
: character that even Dr. Winter admits they "encourage fantasy."
I can concur. The previous session with Elron and MarySue demonstrate
all of these points of failure in the classic auditing environment:
1) auditor suggests things for the patient to recall by giving feedback
on "reads", which may be nothing more than random events.
2) patient is familiar with Elron's fantasies wrt the Time Track, and
produces memories consistent with expectations
3) pure fantasy is not discouraged. In fact, it is a High Crime to
invalidate a preclear, even if two of them think they were Joan of
Arc in a previous lifetime. (or if they identify volcanoes that
weren't there. :)
: It's easy to see from this lecture how such bizarreness originated. Put
: together a science fiction fan (and writer, in Hubbard's case) and an
: auditor. Add a large dose of free association and a scientifically
: unproven theory of what E-meter readings represent. Voila - the result
: is a stream-of-consciousness science fiction story with biofeedback, as
: measured by the E-meter, as the editor. It did not matter that it would
: not have passed muster as fiction, let alone as scientifically proven
: fact. Hubbard believed that his foundation stone - the ideas of the
: thetan and that thought could be detected electronically - was
: completely secure. The "Battle of the Universes" tape shows vividly how
: elaborate was the superstructure which he built so casually on such
: fragile foundations.
This conclusion covers the major points.
Also, add an auditor that has a vested interest in "proving" that
engrams exist.
: | Chris Owen - chr...@OISPAMNOlutefisk.demon.co.uk |
: |---------------------------------------------------------------|
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Perry Scott, SP 4.3, ScienoSitter 3X + ISP + 2 words
Co$ Escapee
Phil Scott
<Perry_...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>Chris Owen (chr...@lutefisk.OISPAMNOdemon.co.uk) wrote:
>: Something that's puzzled me for a long time is just how Hubbard came up
>: with Scientology's bizarre mythos: a shabby, run-down heaven with
>: radioactive statues, Xenu, the Fifth Invader Force with "incredibly
>: horrible hands" (sic) and so on and so forth.
>
>In another essay, I believe you wrote about Hubbard's subjective reality
>(i.e., "what's true for you is true."). If subjective reality is
>applied first to "research" methods, you get the e-meter mythos and
>auditing procedures producing random results. If you then further build
>on this foundation of sand, one can create any reality one pleases.
A key issue of course. This notion that if the meter reads on an
item its true is responsible for the paranoia and criminal behavior in
the cult as well. It goes like this. You complain that your paid
for services did not get delivered and that upsets one of the cults
staff... they go the meter and it reads you are a Marcabian
infiltrator and next thing you know people are looking at you funny
and yer cat is nailed to your door and you are sent to ethics and the
ethics asshole is not interested in the rip off the cult did....but
what you did you stinking Marcabian scum.
How do I know....well i went through that a few times.
Phil Scott
Unknown
wrote:
>It goes like this. You complain that your paid
>for services did not get delivered and that upsets one of the cults
>staff... they go the meter and it reads you are a Marcabian
>infiltrator and next thing you know people are looking at you funny
>and yer cat is nailed to your door and you are sent to ethics and the
>ethics asshole is not interested in the rip off the cult did....but
>what you did you stinking Marcabian scum.
I just thought this deserved excerpting. Thank you.
--
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I saw
many people
reduced to
incoherent babbling,
stripping off clothes,
crawling around on the ground,
banging heads, limbs and other body parts against furniture and walls,
barking,
losing all sense of one's identity
and intense and persistent suicidal ideation.
--Declaration of Andre Tabayoyon