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Borked Pseudo Mailed

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Sep 30, 2008, 2:20:07 PM9/30/08
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Polish warning about dangerous Avatar cult.

http://miasta.gazeta.pl/wroclaw/1,35751,4951994.html

Eldon

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Sep 30, 2008, 4:36:33 PM9/30/08
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On Sep 30, 8:20 pm, Borked Pseudo Mailed <nob...@pseudo.borked.net>
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> Polish warning about dangerous Avatar cult.
>
> http://miasta.gazeta.pl/wroclaw/1,35751,4951994.html

Thanks for finding this. I just ran it through the Google translator.

What is the Avatar

W internecie jest wiele stron, których autorzy ostrzegają przed
kursami Avatar. On the Internet there are many parties, whose authors
warn against Avatar courses. Ich twórcą jest były członek Kościoła
scjentologcznego niejaki Harry Palmer z Florydy, szef organizacji,
która propaguje kursy Avatar. Their founder is a former member of the
Church scjentologcznego man Harry Palmer of Florida, the head of an
organization that promotes exchange Avatar. Palmer podawał się do
niedawna za psychologa, w rzeczywistości jest nauczycielem
angielskiego. Palmer handed to the newly psychologist, is in fact an
English teacher. Nigdy nie uzyskał dyplomu ani uprawnień terapeuty. I
never received a diploma or powers therapist. Chwali się, że jego
organizacja wyszkoliła ponad 60 tys. Praise be, that his organization
trained more than 60 thousand. ludzi w 66 krajach świata. people in 66
countries around the world. Pytany, czy stoi na czele sekty, na swojej
stronie odpowiada, że on pomaga ludziom osiągnąć stan oświecenia.
Asked whether at the head of the sect, on its side responds that it
helps people achieve a state of enlightenment. Zapowiada powstanie
planetarnej cywilizacji oświeconej. Envisage an enlightened planetary
civilization.

Część jego kursów objęta jest tajemnicą. Part of his courses is
subject to secrecy. Pacific Cult Intervention Network (amerykańska
organizacja walki z sektami) ostrzega, że wiele osób po kursach Avatar
popadło w depresję, zerwało kontakty z rodziną, zaciągnęło potężne
długi, których nie jest w stanie spłacić. Pacific Cult Intervention
Network (American organization to combat sects) warns that many of the
courses Avatar popadło in depression, zerwało contacts with the
family, has committed massive debts, which is not in a position to
repay. Niektórzy Mistrzowie, ci po kursie Czarodziej, uznają się za
uzdrowicieli, którzy leczą AIDS i choroby psychiczne. Some Masters, at
the rate of Magician, consider themselves uzdrowicieli who leczą AIDS
and mental illness.


Eldon

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Oct 2, 2008, 5:37:33 AM10/2/08
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On Sep 30, 8:20 pm, Borked Pseudo Mailed <nob...@pseudo.borked.net>
wrote:
> Polish warning about dangerous Avatar cult.
>
> http://miasta.gazeta.pl/wroclaw/1,35751,4951994.html

I was cuious about whether Avatar had anything going in Poland, so I
checked out the directory of Masters on the AvatarEPC website and
found nada -- not a single one. Then I went back and ran the entire
article through the Google translator, looked up a few words online
that it didn't know, and made some obvious edits. If anyone knows
Polish, maybe you can fix the stuff in [square brackets].

It appears that "Sylwia" was recruited by an American friend, so she
might have been Poland's first Avatar or among the first few. She took
Resurfacing in Antwerp, the rest of the course in Holland (at an
adjusted priice of 1,000 euros), and the Master course in Florida.
Though harassed to take the Wizard course, she bailed out at that
point. Keep in mind that the per capita income in Poland is only
$16,200 vs. $46,000 in the US (2007 figures), so $7,500 for Wizards
would comparatively be more like $20,000. Add another few thousand for
travel and lodging, and you're up to around $30,000 in terms of Polish
income.

In any event, it appears that there isn't much action in Poland yet,
and probably won't be in the future.

---------
Would-be wizard now repays debts
by Agnieszka Czajkowska 2008-02-21

First, Sylwia was a champion. A former przeszczęśliwa. [?] She could
be a wizard, but for $7,500. thousand. Today she is curing skołatane
[?] nerves, and repaying the loan she incurred to improve her spirit

Sylwia. a married middle-aged mother, worked at a high position in a
Wroclaw [Warsaw?] bank. At work and at home układało [things were?]
all very well until a crisis occurred in her private life. She was
ready to leave the family. A Polish friend in the U.S. recommended a
course to Sylwia to help overcome her problems.

In 2006, a trainer in Antwerp conducted the course. His students were
representatives of respected professions: teachers, doctors, lawyers,
psychologists and the president of a large company. They were studying
the possibility of purifying the mind, zestresowanego [?] at a cost of
500 PLN.

Sylwia was delighted: "The coach showed us how to use the power of
self-awareness, and it worked."

He told the students there are technologies that can deal with all
problems. But to know them, you must take further levels of the
course.

Sylwia: "They promised that any of us could get the power to do such
things. Obiecywał [?] that you can earn good money and attain
happiness. That was something for me."

After a course, a guy called who said he was an Avatar Master, and
invited her to the next stage in the Netherlands. This cost 1000 euros
plus travel and other expenses. The Avatar champion reminded Sylwia
and podpowiadał [advised her?] how to get money. Sylwia proved to be
extremely effective. She persuade her boss to wyłożył [invest?] money
for the course. She would determine whether a training at the bank
might help improve the efficiency of the staff.

On the course in the Netherlands were students from companies all over
Europe sent directly by the heads of management or human resources to
improve interpersonal skills. The exercises lasted from morning to
night for nine days.

After that, the Masters course in Florida was the next phase for the
willing -- at a cost of $3,000. Sylwia took out a loan and flew to
Florida. There were up to 500 people from around the world.

At the same pace, she finished the classes -- but in a state of light
euphoria. "If you engaged in rational thinking, they told us that such
thoughts can counteract the power of the mind attained by doing the
simple exercises."

After the course, Sylwia and the others received the certificate of
Master. Then it was time for her last stage --- the Magician course,
at a cost of $7,500.

But then something about pękło ['?]. A spiritual panic: "I didn't know
how to get that amount, besides missing [losing?] my husband and
child.

However it was difficult to be get free of the Masters. She received
several telephone calls a day, e-mails, and requests for leads for
other people willing to do the training. Sylwia went into a depression
and left her job at the bank. She threatened that if the Avatars did
not stop harassing her, poskarży [she would call?] the police.

Today she is still in therapy, repaying debts. She now works at a
different company.

Sylwia helped the Dominican Center for Information on new religious
movements and cults. Father Thomas Franc, head of the center, says:
"Avatar is similar throughout the world. We do not know the extent of
its activities in Poland; we can only warn people.".

** Her name was changed at her request

What is Avatar?

On the Internet are many pages whose authors warn against Avatar
courses. Their founder is a former member of the Church of
Scientology, Harry Palmer of Florida, who leads an organization that
promotes the Avatar business. Palmer claims to be a psychologist, but
is in fact an English teacher. He never received a diploma or
credentials as a therapist. He boasts that his organization has
trained more than 60 thousand. people in 66 countries around the
world. When questioned, the leader of the cult responds that it helps
people achieve a state of enlightenment. They envision an enlightened
planetary civilization.

Part of his courses are secret. Pacific Cult Intervention Network (an
American organization to combat cults) warns that many of the Avatar
courses result in depression, broken family relationships, and massive
debts that people cannot repay. Some Masters, at the level of
Magician, consider themselves able to cure AIDS and mental illness.
---------

Alrick

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Oct 2, 2008, 6:34:35 AM10/2/08
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It appears there was a Resurfacing course (given by a belgian master)
in Wrocław (a city in South-Western Poland, close to the border with
Czechia) in the weekend of 17-19 of September in the Centre for
Macrobiotic Education.

http://shiatsu.w.interia.pl/resurfacing.html

DISCOVERING and TRANSFORMATION OF CONSCIOUSNESS
is part of the training cycle Avatar

Instructor: Rik Vermuyten (Belgium) - Avatar licensed teacher of
training courses.

Classes are conducted using the manual ReSurfacing. It is a series of
thirty
exercises which will reveal and transform consciousness. The result of
these exercises is a real and clear experience of the mechanisms that
govern your own consciousness. You are both stage as well as a star.

What is the Avatar course?

Avatar is mild, non-confrontational adventure in samoodkrywaniu (?)
each other. This series of experimental exercises is designed to
unlock the knowledge already contained in your consciousness.
There is nothing in it that you have to believe in. Nobody will tell
you what you are or what it is. You will be able to discover the work
of inner consciousness.


Do you want to be freed from the old beliefs, which make you unhappy?
Would you like to align your beliefs with the objectives your want to
achieve?
Would you like to feel confident and expand your capacity to cope with
life?
Would you like to experience a fuller, mądrzejszego and how to express
yourself spokojniejszego (?) ?


17-19 September 2004 in Wroclaw
Hotel room Wroclaw
Course price: 400 EUR

The records and information: phone (0-prefix-71) 372 15 03 349 50 59
(please contact us)
Organization: Center for Education Makrobiotycznej, ul. Kościuszki 35
E, Wroclaw, Poland.


Alrick

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Oct 2, 2008, 6:46:47 AM10/2/08
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On 2 okt, 12:34, Alrick <alrick...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It appears there was a Resurfacing course (given by a belgian master)
> in Wroc³aw (a city in South-Western Poland, close to the border with

> Czechia) in the weekend of 17-19 of September in the Centre for
> Macrobiotic Education.
>
> http://shiatsu.w.interia.pl/resurfacing.html
>
> DISCOVERING and TRANSFORMATION OF CONSCIOUSNESS
> is part of the training cycle Avatar
>
> Instructor: Rik Vermuyten (Belgium) - Avatar licensed teacher of
> training courses.
>
> Classes are conducted using the manual ReSurfacing. It is a series of
> thirty
> exercises which will reveal and transform consciousness. The result of
> these exercises is a real and clear experience of the mechanisms that
> govern your own consciousness. You are both stage as well as a star.
>
> What is the Avatar course?
>
> Avatar is mild, non-confrontational adventure in samoodkrywaniu (?)
> each other. This series of experimental exercises is designed to
> unlock the knowledge already contained in your consciousness.
> There is nothing in it that you have to believe in. Nobody will tell
> you what you are or what it is. You will be able to discover the work
> of  inner consciousness.
>
> Do you want to be freed from the old beliefs, which make you unhappy?
> Would you like to align your beliefs with the objectives your want to
> achieve?
> Would you like to feel confident and expand your capacity to cope with
> life?
> Would you like to experience a fuller, m±drzejszego and how to express

> yourself spokojniejszego (?) ?
>
> 17-19 September 2004 in Wroclaw
> Hotel room Wroclaw
> Course price: 400 EUR
>
> The records and information: phone (0-prefix-71) 372 15 03 349 50 59
> (please contact us)
> Organization: Center for Education Makrobiotycznej, ul. Ko¶ciuszki 35
> E, Wroclaw, Poland.

That particular course was in 2004.
From his website it seems Mr Rik Vermuyten has stopped offering
courses in Poland. He does still offer them in macro-biotic venues in
portugal now.

http://www.rikvermuyten.be/home.html

Eldon

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Oct 2, 2008, 7:22:55 AM10/2/08
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On Oct 2, 12:34 pm, Alrick <alrick...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It appears there was a Resurfacing course (given by a belgian master)
> in Wroc³aw (a city in South-Western Poland, close to the border with

> Czechia) in the weekend of 17-19 of September in the Centre for
> Macrobiotic Education.
>
> http://shiatsu.w.interia.pl/resurfacing.html
>
> DISCOVERING and TRANSFORMATION OF CONSCIOUSNESS
> is part of the training cycle Avatar
>
> Instructor: Rik Vermuyten (Belgium) - Avatar licensed teacher of
> training courses.
>
> Classes are conducted using the manual ReSurfacing. It is a series of
> thirty
> exercises which will reveal and transform consciousness. The result of
> these exercises is a real and clear experience of the mechanisms that
> govern your own consciousness. You are both stage as well as a star.
>
> What is the Avatar course?
>
> Avatar is mild, non-confrontational adventure in samoodkrywaniu (?)
> each other. This series of experimental exercises is designed to
> unlock the knowledge already contained in your consciousness.
> There is nothing in it that you have to believe in. Nobody will tell
> you what you are or what it is. You will be able to discover the work
> of inner consciousness.
>
> Do you want to be freed from the old beliefs, which make you unhappy?
> Would you like to align your beliefs with the objectives your want to
> achieve?
> Would you like to feel confident and expand your capacity to cope with
> life?
> Would you like to experience a fuller, m±drzejszego and how to express

> yourself spokojniejszego (?) ?
>
> 17-19 September 2004 in Wroclaw
> Hotel room Wroclaw
> Course price: 400 EUR

Minor correction. It was 400 Poland Zlotych, which would have been
maybe 165 euros. So he actually cut the price for Resurfacing.


>
> The records and information: phone (0-prefix-71) 372 15 03 349 50 59
> (please contact us)

Eldon

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Oct 2, 2008, 7:30:25 AM10/2/08
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And in Valencia, Spain it appears. Both countries are somewhat hostile
to Scientology (like most of Europe these days).

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