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Darrin
Dec 6, 2011, 9:10:43 PM12/6/11
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Newsgroups: From: lancemaj...@hotmail.com (Lance)
Date: 14 Jun 2002 00:22:12 -0700
Local: Fri, Jun 14 2002 2:22 am
Subject: Re: Circumcision, sexism and society.
> > Get an education and you may just find out that the evil doctor
> > didn't cripple your sex organs like you think,
> I've got an education. I know how a normal penis works. I know
> a mutilated penis can never function normally.
<<Aha. I have the upper hand here! I was circumsized at age 12 during
an
operation for *some reason*. Don't ask me; I was young. And guess
what? I *am* sexually crippled now! Experience beats your feeble
rhetoric. >>
Some reason? LOL! We know the reason, besides that of your crippled
brain: your infected foreskinned shmeckle (most likely due to
phimosis) was dangling by a mere thread, thus having to undergo post-
natal circumcision. Through no fault of your ignorant & uncaring
parents, you needlessly had to shlep a hideous, useless scab o' skin
around for 12-years. Remember, circumcision is still the safest and
most commonly performed medical procedure in all of medicine,
occurring more frequently than tooth extraction. An ounce of
prevention is worth a pound of cure! Be wise, circumcise! Anything
else is uncivilized! eh -D, NYC "The Hebrews have done more to
civilize men than any other nation. If I were an atheist, and believed
blind eternal fate, I should still believe that fate had ordained the
Jews to be the most essential instrument for civilizing the nations" -
JOHN ADAMS (2nd US President).."Five Jewish men influenced the history
of Western civilization: Moses said the law is everything. Jesus said
love is everything. Marx said capital is everything. Freud said sex is
everything. Einstein said everything is relative" eh.."I was born in
Waukegan, a long, long, long time ago. As a matter of fact, our rabbi
was an Indian..he used a tomahawk...I was eight days old..what did I
know?" ehe - JACK BENNY (b. Kubelsky, sweet Jew, quoted in Irving A.
Fein's Jack Benny).."Roman emperor Elagabalus (218-222) had such a
warm attitude toward Judaism, he had himself circumcised and would not
eat pork" - THE JEWISH CONNECTION BY M. HIRSCH GOLDBERG.."A London
Times Survey (1996) by Dr. T. Stuttaford found that among experienced
Women & Prostitutes, 90% preferred sex with circumcised men because it
was more hygenic and pleasurable" - DR. SCHOEN.."If we were forced to
choose just one, there would be no way to deny that Judaism is the
most important intellectual development in human history" - DAVID
GELERTNER, Yale University Professor.."Basically, he's self-conscious
about his dick, and he wants a circumcision" eh - NIP/TUCK, F/X.."The
ladies love a circumcision!" eh - RABBI TUCKMAN (Mel Brooks, umpeenth
sweet Jewish NYer), ROBIN HOOD: MEN IN TIGHTS.."If all 2,000,000 boys
born in the US annually were circumcised, the following would be
prevented during their lifetimes: 7,000 cases of HIV, 10,000 cases of
syphilis, 20,000 cases of pyeleonephritis, 2,000 with concurrent
bacterema, 1,500 cases of hypertension, 150 cases of end stage renal
disease, 2,000 cases of penile cancer, 200,000 cases of phimosis, and
250,000-500,000 cases of balanophimosis" - PROFESSOR BRIAN MORRIS, 30+
years of unbias research on the benefits of circumcision.."Can I just
talk about one other issue I had? I'm almost hesitant to say
this...because I'm not gay...I'm not looking at other guys...but the
whole uncircumcised thing..when they're doing close-ups...It's
just...that's a whole other issue...it's just disgusting!" ehe - BABA
BOOEY (aka Boy Gary Dell'Abate, circumcised I-talian, producer -
Howard Stern (umpteenth sweet, Jewish NYer - King Of All Media -
single-handedly changed the face of radio) show, commenting on having
seen a recent porn.."The Egg Cream is psychologically the opposite of
circumcision - it pleasurably reaffirms your Jewishness!" ehe - MEL
BROOKS (b. Kaminsky, umpteenth sweet, Jewish NYer).."Be wise,
circumcise!".."Born imperfect, made perfect on the eighth day!".."To
perfect the world (TIKUN OLAM) is in Jewish thought - the obligation
of every human being. Where better to begin by fixing God's goof of
foreskin?".."Life insurance companies should class wearers of a
prepuce under the head of a hazardous risk" - MEDICAL WRITER,
UNKNOWN.."Part of the foreskin they throw away after circumcision, I
believe it is called SCHMUCK" eh - DAVID GALE (Kevin Spacey in The
Life Of David Gale).."Circumcision is like a substantial and well-
secured annuity; every year of life you draw the benefits. Parents
cannot make a better paying investment for their little boys" - DR.
P.C. REMONDINO.."The anti-circumcision craze has developed because
groups of conservative, sensitive, medically misinformed individuals,
some with fanatical emotionalism, have not seen the consequences of a
society where males are not circumcised. While medical prophylactic
measures are readily accepted by our society, surgical prophylaxis is
in danger of being discarded by an overemphasis on the return to the
"natural." The intense pain of natural childbirth is seen as a reward
while the minor discomfort, if any, of circumcision is magnified
beyond reason" - DR.GERALD WEISS
Date: 14 Jun 2002 00:22:12 -0700
Local: Fri, Jun 14 2002 2:22 am
Subject: Re: Circumcision, sexism and society.
> > Get an education and you may just find out that the evil doctor
> > didn't cripple your sex organs like you think,
> I've got an education. I know how a normal penis works. I know
> a mutilated penis can never function normally.
<<Aha. I have the upper hand here! I was circumsized at age 12 during
an
operation for *some reason*. Don't ask me; I was young. And guess
what? I *am* sexually crippled now! Experience beats your feeble
rhetoric. >>
Some reason? LOL! We know the reason, besides that of your crippled
brain: your infected foreskinned shmeckle (most likely due to
phimosis) was dangling by a mere thread, thus having to undergo post-
natal circumcision. Through no fault of your ignorant & uncaring
parents, you needlessly had to shlep a hideous, useless scab o' skin
around for 12-years. Remember, circumcision is still the safest and
most commonly performed medical procedure in all of medicine,
occurring more frequently than tooth extraction. An ounce of
prevention is worth a pound of cure! Be wise, circumcise! Anything
else is uncivilized! eh -D, NYC "The Hebrews have done more to
civilize men than any other nation. If I were an atheist, and believed
blind eternal fate, I should still believe that fate had ordained the
Jews to be the most essential instrument for civilizing the nations" -
JOHN ADAMS (2nd US President).."Five Jewish men influenced the history
of Western civilization: Moses said the law is everything. Jesus said
love is everything. Marx said capital is everything. Freud said sex is
everything. Einstein said everything is relative" eh.."I was born in
Waukegan, a long, long, long time ago. As a matter of fact, our rabbi
was an Indian..he used a tomahawk...I was eight days old..what did I
know?" ehe - JACK BENNY (b. Kubelsky, sweet Jew, quoted in Irving A.
Fein's Jack Benny).."Roman emperor Elagabalus (218-222) had such a
warm attitude toward Judaism, he had himself circumcised and would not
eat pork" - THE JEWISH CONNECTION BY M. HIRSCH GOLDBERG.."A London
Times Survey (1996) by Dr. T. Stuttaford found that among experienced
Women & Prostitutes, 90% preferred sex with circumcised men because it
was more hygenic and pleasurable" - DR. SCHOEN.."If we were forced to
choose just one, there would be no way to deny that Judaism is the
most important intellectual development in human history" - DAVID
GELERTNER, Yale University Professor.."Basically, he's self-conscious
about his dick, and he wants a circumcision" eh - NIP/TUCK, F/X.."The
ladies love a circumcision!" eh - RABBI TUCKMAN (Mel Brooks, umpeenth
sweet Jewish NYer), ROBIN HOOD: MEN IN TIGHTS.."If all 2,000,000 boys
born in the US annually were circumcised, the following would be
prevented during their lifetimes: 7,000 cases of HIV, 10,000 cases of
syphilis, 20,000 cases of pyeleonephritis, 2,000 with concurrent
bacterema, 1,500 cases of hypertension, 150 cases of end stage renal
disease, 2,000 cases of penile cancer, 200,000 cases of phimosis, and
250,000-500,000 cases of balanophimosis" - PROFESSOR BRIAN MORRIS, 30+
years of unbias research on the benefits of circumcision.."Can I just
talk about one other issue I had? I'm almost hesitant to say
this...because I'm not gay...I'm not looking at other guys...but the
whole uncircumcised thing..when they're doing close-ups...It's
just...that's a whole other issue...it's just disgusting!" ehe - BABA
BOOEY (aka Boy Gary Dell'Abate, circumcised I-talian, producer -
Howard Stern (umpteenth sweet, Jewish NYer - King Of All Media -
single-handedly changed the face of radio) show, commenting on having
seen a recent porn.."The Egg Cream is psychologically the opposite of
circumcision - it pleasurably reaffirms your Jewishness!" ehe - MEL
BROOKS (b. Kaminsky, umpteenth sweet, Jewish NYer).."Be wise,
circumcise!".."Born imperfect, made perfect on the eighth day!".."To
perfect the world (TIKUN OLAM) is in Jewish thought - the obligation
of every human being. Where better to begin by fixing God's goof of
foreskin?".."Life insurance companies should class wearers of a
prepuce under the head of a hazardous risk" - MEDICAL WRITER,
UNKNOWN.."Part of the foreskin they throw away after circumcision, I
believe it is called SCHMUCK" eh - DAVID GALE (Kevin Spacey in The
Life Of David Gale).."Circumcision is like a substantial and well-
secured annuity; every year of life you draw the benefits. Parents
cannot make a better paying investment for their little boys" - DR.
P.C. REMONDINO.."The anti-circumcision craze has developed because
groups of conservative, sensitive, medically misinformed individuals,
some with fanatical emotionalism, have not seen the consequences of a
society where males are not circumcised. While medical prophylactic
measures are readily accepted by our society, surgical prophylaxis is
in danger of being discarded by an overemphasis on the return to the
"natural." The intense pain of natural childbirth is seen as a reward
while the minor discomfort, if any, of circumcision is magnified
beyond reason" - DR.GERALD WEISS
Darrin
Dec 8, 2011, 10:58:17 PM12/8/11
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On Dec 7, 11:43 am, Rob Par <rob...@mypbmail.com> wrote:
> once. Both men and women have teeth extracted and most have more than one. Many have 32 teeth
> extracted after they become adults. At 72 years old I still have my fore skin I still skin it back
> and wash underneath, The fore skin protects the tender head of my penis. Ocassionaly the fore skin
> get pulled back the cloth of my underwear irriates the head of my penis. Evolution provides the fore
> skin for protection. Rabbi's and doctors remove it for money.>>
Skinfreak, the $$$ lies in treating foreskin-related maladies! DOH!
Phimosis (inability to retract foreskin - excrutiatingly painful - can
lead to Kidney failure and death) alone has resulted in millions of
men having to be circumcised as adults. As for washing? LOL! You can
scrub your smelly putz like an incessant marsupial in the wild, and it
shall never impede or prevent the accumulation of smegma (aka pre-
cancerous gunk) and other foreskin-related illnesses. Soap (irritant)
can actually cause the bacteria to multiply. You cannot wash away the
physics of foreskin. Like the appendix & wisdom teeth, it shall always
remain one of God's anatomical goofs! It serves no uselful function,
other than to cause a lifetime of unwanted hassles and upkeep. Its
only benefit serves as needed skingraft on burn victims. Foreskin can
also be found in skincare products. Yes, we have evolved. We no longer
walk on our bare knuckles naked. We wear clothing and underwear as our
protection. Why have we been able to live without foreskin for
centuries? Can you say, remnant & redundant? If a flap of skin grew
over your tush, would you revel in the bacteria that it traps? Why
should foreskin be any different? Unable to disassociate it from the
shmeckle? They are two separate entities! So, what do ya feed that
thang?ehe Circus peanuts? LOL! -D, NYC "Christianity has deluged the
world with blood & tears; Judaism has caused neither for religion's
sake" - MARK TWAIN.."In New York, even if you're Catholic, you're
Jewish. If you live in Butte, Montana, you're going to be Goyish even
if you're Jewish!" eh - LENNY BRUCE (umpteenth sweet, Jewish NYer - b.
Leonard Alfred Schneider).."The Jew is the emblem of eternity. He who
neither slaughter nor torture of thousands of years could destroy, he
who neither fire, nor sword, nor Inquisition was able to wipe off the
face of the earth. He who was the first to produce the Oracles of God.
He who has been for so long the Guardian of Prophecy and has
transmitted it to the rest of the world. Such a nation cannot be
destroyed. The Jew is as everlasting as Eternity itself" - LEO
TOLSTOY.."If statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one percent
of the human race. It suggests a nebulous dim puff of stardust lost in
the blaze of the Milky way. Properly, the Jew ought hardly to be heard
of, but he is heard of, has always been heard of. He is as prominent
on the planet as any other people, and his commercial importance is
extravagantly out of proportion to the smallness of his bulk. His
contributions to the world's list of great names in literature,
science, art, music, finance, medicine, and abstruse learning are also
away out of proportion to the weakness of his numbers. He has made a
marvelous fight in this world, in all the ages; and had done it with
his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of himself, and be excused
for it. The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Roman followed, and made
a vast noise, and they are gone. Other peoples have sprung up and held
their torch high for a time, but it burned out, and they sit in
twilight now, or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all,
and is now what he always was, exhibiting decadence, no infirmities of
age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no
dulling
of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jew;
all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his
immortality?" - MARK TWAIN
> >beyond reason" - DR.GERALD WEISS- Hide quoted text -
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> On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 18:10:43 -0800 (PST), Darrin <darrin...@aol.com> wrote:
> >Newsgroups: From: lancemaj...@hotmail.com (Lance)
> >Date: 14 Jun 2002 00:22:12 -0700
> >Local: Fri, Jun 14 2002 2:22 am
> >Subject: Re: Circumcision, sexism and society.
>
> >> > Get an education and you may just find out that the evil doctor
> >> > didn't cripple your sex organs like you think,
>
> >> I've got an education. I know how a normal penis works. I know
> >> a mutilated penis can never function normally.
>
> ><<Aha. I have the upper hand here! I was circumsized at age 12 during
> >an> >operation for *some reason*. Don't ask me; I was young. And guess
> >what? I *am* sexually crippled now! Experience beats your feeble
> >rhetoric. >>
>
> >Some reason? LOL! We know the reason, besides that of your crippled
> >brain: your infected foreskinned shmeckle (most likely due to
> >phimosis) was dangling by a mere thread, thus having to undergo post-
> >natal circumcision. Through no fault of your ignorant & uncaring
> >parents, you needlessly had to shlep a hideous, useless scab o' skin
> >around for 12-years. Remember, circumcision is still the safest and
> >most commonly performed medical procedure in all of medicine,
> >occurring more frequently than tooth extraction.
>
> Wasn't for lies religious people would have nothing to say. Only males are circumcised, and only
> >Newsgroups: From: lancemaj...@hotmail.com (Lance)
> >Date: 14 Jun 2002 00:22:12 -0700
> >Local: Fri, Jun 14 2002 2:22 am
> >Subject: Re: Circumcision, sexism and society.
>
> >> > Get an education and you may just find out that the evil doctor
> >> > didn't cripple your sex organs like you think,
>
> >> I've got an education. I know how a normal penis works. I know
> >> a mutilated penis can never function normally.
>
> ><<Aha. I have the upper hand here! I was circumsized at age 12 during
> >an> >operation for *some reason*. Don't ask me; I was young. And guess
> >what? I *am* sexually crippled now! Experience beats your feeble
> >rhetoric. >>
>
> >Some reason? LOL! We know the reason, besides that of your crippled
> >brain: your infected foreskinned shmeckle (most likely due to
> >phimosis) was dangling by a mere thread, thus having to undergo post-
> >natal circumcision. Through no fault of your ignorant & uncaring
> >parents, you needlessly had to shlep a hideous, useless scab o' skin
> >around for 12-years. Remember, circumcision is still the safest and
> >most commonly performed medical procedure in all of medicine,
> >occurring more frequently than tooth extraction.
>
> once. Both men and women have teeth extracted and most have more than one. Many have 32 teeth
> extracted after they become adults. At 72 years old I still have my fore skin I still skin it back
> and wash underneath, The fore skin protects the tender head of my penis. Ocassionaly the fore skin
> get pulled back the cloth of my underwear irriates the head of my penis. Evolution provides the fore
> skin for protection. Rabbi's and doctors remove it for money.>>
Skinfreak, the $$$ lies in treating foreskin-related maladies! DOH!
Phimosis (inability to retract foreskin - excrutiatingly painful - can
lead to Kidney failure and death) alone has resulted in millions of
men having to be circumcised as adults. As for washing? LOL! You can
scrub your smelly putz like an incessant marsupial in the wild, and it
shall never impede or prevent the accumulation of smegma (aka pre-
cancerous gunk) and other foreskin-related illnesses. Soap (irritant)
can actually cause the bacteria to multiply. You cannot wash away the
physics of foreskin. Like the appendix & wisdom teeth, it shall always
remain one of God's anatomical goofs! It serves no uselful function,
other than to cause a lifetime of unwanted hassles and upkeep. Its
only benefit serves as needed skingraft on burn victims. Foreskin can
also be found in skincare products. Yes, we have evolved. We no longer
walk on our bare knuckles naked. We wear clothing and underwear as our
protection. Why have we been able to live without foreskin for
centuries? Can you say, remnant & redundant? If a flap of skin grew
over your tush, would you revel in the bacteria that it traps? Why
should foreskin be any different? Unable to disassociate it from the
shmeckle? They are two separate entities! So, what do ya feed that
thang?ehe Circus peanuts? LOL! -D, NYC "Christianity has deluged the
world with blood & tears; Judaism has caused neither for religion's
sake" - MARK TWAIN.."In New York, even if you're Catholic, you're
Jewish. If you live in Butte, Montana, you're going to be Goyish even
if you're Jewish!" eh - LENNY BRUCE (umpteenth sweet, Jewish NYer - b.
Leonard Alfred Schneider).."The Jew is the emblem of eternity. He who
neither slaughter nor torture of thousands of years could destroy, he
who neither fire, nor sword, nor Inquisition was able to wipe off the
face of the earth. He who was the first to produce the Oracles of God.
He who has been for so long the Guardian of Prophecy and has
transmitted it to the rest of the world. Such a nation cannot be
destroyed. The Jew is as everlasting as Eternity itself" - LEO
TOLSTOY.."If statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one percent
of the human race. It suggests a nebulous dim puff of stardust lost in
the blaze of the Milky way. Properly, the Jew ought hardly to be heard
of, but he is heard of, has always been heard of. He is as prominent
on the planet as any other people, and his commercial importance is
extravagantly out of proportion to the smallness of his bulk. His
contributions to the world's list of great names in literature,
science, art, music, finance, medicine, and abstruse learning are also
away out of proportion to the weakness of his numbers. He has made a
marvelous fight in this world, in all the ages; and had done it with
his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of himself, and be excused
for it. The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Roman followed, and made
a vast noise, and they are gone. Other peoples have sprung up and held
their torch high for a time, but it burned out, and they sit in
twilight now, or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all,
and is now what he always was, exhibiting decadence, no infirmities of
age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no
dulling
of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jew;
all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his
immortality?" - MARK TWAIN
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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Dec 20, 2011, 6:46:32 PM12/20/11
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On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 18:10:43 -0800 (PST), Darrin <darr...@aol.com>
wrote:
Wow. The ridiculous format of this posting alone made me killfile it
immediately. This is a creation of copy-paste idiot gone mad. Let
alone he prefers to have male children removed of their god-given
naturally formed protective skin.
wrote:
immediately. This is a creation of copy-paste idiot gone mad. Let
alone he prefers to have male children removed of their god-given
naturally formed protective skin.
Darrin
Dec 21, 2011, 12:57:14 AM12/21/11
to
On Dec 20, 6:46 pm, none <n...@ya.bus> wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 18:10:43 -0800 (PST), Darrin <darrin...@aol.com>
> naturally formed protective skin.->>
Like a vulture to a carcass, another skinfreak touches down on
foreskin! eheh Never as ridiculous as trying to convince yourself that
foreskin is beneficial. Is the appendix beneficial? Are siamese twins
naturally formed? What about harelips? God has been known to goof
quite a few times. Anything that impedes the function and/or overall
appearance of the human anatomy IS anything but "naturally formed."
Are you Neanderthal man? Do you walk on your bare knuckles too? If you
were naked and hunting for food thousands of years ago, perhaps
foreskin may have provided your little shmeckle with some protection.
Today we wear underwear and pants as our protection.
As for my tag lines? Since I am the NY Yid of Tid, it's part of my
shtick! eheh It's always been about content, never appearance! eh But
alas, since you have nothing of importance to offer, you obviously
have to nitpick at my informative taglines. Remember, the truth shall
set you free - but first, you'll really be pissed off! ehe BTW, what
do you feed that thang?eh Circus peanuts? LOL! eh -D, NYC "If
Christians were Christians, there would be no anti-Semitism. Jesus was
a Jew. There is nothing that the ordinary Christian so dislikes to
remember as this awkward historical fact. But it happens, nontheless,
to be true" - JOHN HAYNES HOLMES, Minister, 1879-1964.."The most
popular-selling Christmas song, "White Christmas," was written by a
Jew" - IRVING BERLIN.."The pursuit of knowledge for its own sake, an
almost fanatical love of justice, and the desire for personal
independence - these are the features of Jewish tradition that make me
thank my stars that I belong to it!" - ALBERT EINSTEIN.."I was talking
to him about this because one of the things about...in favor of not
circumcising...is that the foreskin covers the sensitivity of the
nerve endings..and in that way, your Fruit of The Looms underwear
doesn't dull down the nerve endings...as you get older...(audience
laughter)..and Larry David, who is circumcised said...I said it might
make it less sensitive...he said: "Less sensitive? If it was anymore
sensitive, I'd have a heart attack!" ehehe - DUSTIN HOFFMAN (2-time
Oscar winner/sweet, circumcised Jew) on JAY LENO, 2004.."In 1979, Time
Magazine estimated that whereas Jews made up only 3% of the American
population, fully 80% of professional comedians were Jewish" - THE
HAUNTED SMILE, The Story of Jewish Comedians In America By LAWRENCE J.
EPSTEIN.."Whoever called it necking was a poor judge of anatomy" -
GROUCHO MARX (insert you know what here!eheh).."I'm the only Jew on TV
who isn't afraid to say I'm Jewish or talk about being Jewish. I'm the
one who teaches these people {the show's non-Jewish family} how to
have a real Christmas. I'm the one that shows them that family and
togetherness are what's important. This was a show about a Jew who is
having a Christmas every Jew dreams of. To deny that growing up, it
seemed like Christmas was a more fun holiday -if anybody wasn't honest
about that, they're bullshitting themselves" - FRAN DRESCHER.."I draw
my life from everything I've done and everything that interests
me..You can have 600 jokes in your film and if two gags are Jewish,
the picture will be perceived as Jewish comedy. This is a false
perception, I think" - WOODY ALLEN, b. Konigsberg, umpteenth sweet,
Jewish NYer
> On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 18:10:43 -0800 (PST), Darrin <darrin...@aol.com>
Like a vulture to a carcass, another skinfreak touches down on
foreskin! eheh Never as ridiculous as trying to convince yourself that
foreskin is beneficial. Is the appendix beneficial? Are siamese twins
naturally formed? What about harelips? God has been known to goof
quite a few times. Anything that impedes the function and/or overall
appearance of the human anatomy IS anything but "naturally formed."
Are you Neanderthal man? Do you walk on your bare knuckles too? If you
were naked and hunting for food thousands of years ago, perhaps
foreskin may have provided your little shmeckle with some protection.
Today we wear underwear and pants as our protection.
As for my tag lines? Since I am the NY Yid of Tid, it's part of my
shtick! eheh It's always been about content, never appearance! eh But
alas, since you have nothing of importance to offer, you obviously
have to nitpick at my informative taglines. Remember, the truth shall
set you free - but first, you'll really be pissed off! ehe BTW, what
do you feed that thang?eh Circus peanuts? LOL! eh -D, NYC "If
Christians were Christians, there would be no anti-Semitism. Jesus was
a Jew. There is nothing that the ordinary Christian so dislikes to
remember as this awkward historical fact. But it happens, nontheless,
to be true" - JOHN HAYNES HOLMES, Minister, 1879-1964.."The most
popular-selling Christmas song, "White Christmas," was written by a
Jew" - IRVING BERLIN.."The pursuit of knowledge for its own sake, an
almost fanatical love of justice, and the desire for personal
independence - these are the features of Jewish tradition that make me
thank my stars that I belong to it!" - ALBERT EINSTEIN.."I was talking
to him about this because one of the things about...in favor of not
circumcising...is that the foreskin covers the sensitivity of the
nerve endings..and in that way, your Fruit of The Looms underwear
doesn't dull down the nerve endings...as you get older...(audience
laughter)..and Larry David, who is circumcised said...I said it might
make it less sensitive...he said: "Less sensitive? If it was anymore
sensitive, I'd have a heart attack!" ehehe - DUSTIN HOFFMAN (2-time
Oscar winner/sweet, circumcised Jew) on JAY LENO, 2004.."In 1979, Time
Magazine estimated that whereas Jews made up only 3% of the American
population, fully 80% of professional comedians were Jewish" - THE
HAUNTED SMILE, The Story of Jewish Comedians In America By LAWRENCE J.
EPSTEIN.."Whoever called it necking was a poor judge of anatomy" -
GROUCHO MARX (insert you know what here!eheh).."I'm the only Jew on TV
who isn't afraid to say I'm Jewish or talk about being Jewish. I'm the
one who teaches these people {the show's non-Jewish family} how to
have a real Christmas. I'm the one that shows them that family and
togetherness are what's important. This was a show about a Jew who is
having a Christmas every Jew dreams of. To deny that growing up, it
seemed like Christmas was a more fun holiday -if anybody wasn't honest
about that, they're bullshitting themselves" - FRAN DRESCHER.."I draw
my life from everything I've done and everything that interests
me..You can have 600 jokes in your film and if two gags are Jewish,
the picture will be perceived as Jewish comedy. This is a false
perception, I think" - WOODY ALLEN, b. Konigsberg, umpteenth sweet,
Jewish NYer
Andrew Usher
Dec 21, 2011, 6:09:46 AM12/21/11
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On Dec 20, 5:46 pm, none <n...@ya.bus> wrote:
> Wow. The ridiculous format of this posting alone made me killfile it
> immediately. This is a creation of copy-paste idiot gone mad. Let
> alone he prefers to have male children removed of their god-given
> naturally formed protective skin.
Even if he is a nut and a moron, that doesn't make him wrong on this
> Wow. The ridiculous format of this posting alone made me killfile it
> immediately. This is a creation of copy-paste idiot gone mad. Let
> alone he prefers to have male children removed of their god-given
> naturally formed protective skin.
issue. There are, come to think of it, far more crazy people
advocating against circumcision than for it. There's one test I can
think of that distinguishes male circumcision from all other body
modifications - no one honestly thinks it's unattractive. That's
right, circumcision is the one 'mutilation' that nobody can criticise
aesthetically. Instead they have to invent lots of bullshit medical
claims and sob stories about how it's SO painful to babies, as if that
one moment of pain defines the rest of his life.
Andrew Usher
Darrin
Dec 21, 2011, 5:17:08 PM12/21/11
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Exactly! Forget about what modern medicine says about the benefits of
forgoing foreskin. The damn thing is a blight on the senses. If a man
wants to increase his chances of nabbing high-class trim, he will shed
that abominable scab o' skin! eh More skin = queasy gals = less boots
a knockin'! eheh At least in America - measuring stick to success.
Then again, Queen Victoria believed that her family descended from
King David, and sanctioned a Bris. Yes, Prince Charles was circumcised
by a Mohel. The upper classes tend to be circumcised, the lower
classes less so! -D, NYC "Moses emerges as the first great teacher of
preventive medicine. Dr. James J. Walsh, in a foreword to Jewish
Contributions to Medicine in America, writes, "Jews were noted for
their work in hygiene and preventive medicine as well as in pathology.
They were always intensely practical, and not at all likely to be run-
away with by theories of superstitions." - THE JEWISH CONNECTION BY
M. HORSCH GOLDBERG
Jake Waskett
Dec 25, 2011, 7:08:14 AM12/25/11
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On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 03:09:46 -0800, Andrew Usher wrote:
> On Dec 20, 5:46 pm, none <n...@ya.bus> wrote:
>
>> Wow. The ridiculous format of this posting alone made me killfile it
>> immediately. This is a creation of copy-paste idiot gone mad. Let alone
>> he prefers to have male children removed of their god-given naturally
>> formed protective skin.
>
> Even if he is a nut and a moron, that doesn't make him wrong on this
> issue. There are, come to think of it, far more crazy people advocating
> against circumcision than for it.
I think that's true, at least in my experience, and I wonder why it is.
> On Dec 20, 5:46 pm, none <n...@ya.bus> wrote:
>
>> Wow. The ridiculous format of this posting alone made me killfile it
>> immediately. This is a creation of copy-paste idiot gone mad. Let alone
>> he prefers to have male children removed of their god-given naturally
>> formed protective skin.
>
> Even if he is a nut and a moron, that doesn't make him wrong on this
> issue. There are, come to think of it, far more crazy people advocating
> against circumcision than for it.
I suspect that it has to do with the fact that many aspects of the anti-
circumcision belief system are inherently attractive to those of a
paranoid disposition. For example, consider the belief that there is a
worldwide conspiracy to falsify studies in order to promote circumcision.
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Jake Waskett
Dec 25, 2011, 11:42:14 AM12/25/11
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On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 09:28:28 -0600, Rob Par wrote:
> What puzzles me as atheist, how does a creation of a intelligent
> designer, have a minor imperfection? Which Shamans of many different
> religions and labels can correct for a modest contribution. So did man
> evolve with a dangerous flap of skin, or did God fuck up creation?
I haven't anything meaningful to say about religious viewpoints, but from
an evolutionary standpoint we have to remember that while the foreskin
may be a net hazard now (albeit a minor one), that may not have been the
case in the past. For example, we've only worn clothing for a few
thousand years, and before that the foreskin's ability to protect the
glans from thorns and grasses may have outweighed the risks associated
with it.
> I was
> raised by a family that rejected circumcision, because it was a Jewish
> thing and Jews killed Jesus.
Not terribly logical: to be consistent one would have to recognise that
Jews also breathe oxygen, and therefore reject that.
> Occasionally my fore skin is drawn back
> leaving the head unprotected, I quickly pull the skin down because my
> jockeys hurt the tender flesh underneath.
Unsurprising, if you're not used to it.
> designer, have a minor imperfection? Which Shamans of many different
> religions and labels can correct for a modest contribution. So did man
> evolve with a dangerous flap of skin, or did God fuck up creation?
I haven't anything meaningful to say about religious viewpoints, but from
an evolutionary standpoint we have to remember that while the foreskin
may be a net hazard now (albeit a minor one), that may not have been the
case in the past. For example, we've only worn clothing for a few
thousand years, and before that the foreskin's ability to protect the
glans from thorns and grasses may have outweighed the risks associated
with it.
> I was
> raised by a family that rejected circumcision, because it was a Jewish
> thing and Jews killed Jesus.
Not terribly logical: to be consistent one would have to recognise that
Jews also breathe oxygen, and therefore reject that.
> Occasionally my fore skin is drawn back
> leaving the head unprotected, I quickly pull the skin down because my
> jockeys hurt the tender flesh underneath.
Unsurprising, if you're not used to it.
Barry Simpson
Dec 25, 2011, 11:59:45 AM12/25/11
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they are a minority. Interestingly, they do not support female genital
mutilation.
It should be obvious that, apart from medical necessity, proponents of
genital mutilation are motivated by religious belief or malice.
Barry Simpson
Dec 25, 2011, 1:02:46 PM12/25/11
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On Dec 25, 7:08 am, Jake Waskett <j...@waskett.org> wrote:
It’s sad to see so many supporters of genital mutilation. Thankfully
they are a minority. Interestingly, they do not support female genital
mutilation.
It should be obvious that apart from medical necessity, proponents of
they are a minority. Interestingly, they do not support female genital
mutilation.
genital mutilation are motivated either by religion or by malice.
Ted
Dec 25, 2011, 2:53:03 PM12/25/11
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>On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 03:09:46 -0800, Andrew Usher wrote:
>
>> On Dec 20, 5:46 pm, none <n...@ya.bus> wrote:
>>
>>> Wow. The ridiculous format of this posting alone made me killfile it
>>> immediately. This is a creation of copy-paste idiot gone mad. Let alone
>>> he prefers to have male children removed of their god-given naturally
>>> formed protective skin.
>>
>> Even if he is a nut and a moron, that doesn't make him wrong on this
>> issue. There are, come to think of it, far more crazy people advocating
>> against circumcision than for it.
>
>I think that's true, at least in my experience, and I wonder why it is.
Probably because the default assumption is to leave it alone.
>
>> On Dec 20, 5:46 pm, none <n...@ya.bus> wrote:
>>
>>> Wow. The ridiculous format of this posting alone made me killfile it
>>> immediately. This is a creation of copy-paste idiot gone mad. Let alone
>>> he prefers to have male children removed of their god-given naturally
>>> formed protective skin.
>>
>> Even if he is a nut and a moron, that doesn't make him wrong on this
>> issue. There are, come to think of it, far more crazy people advocating
>> against circumcision than for it.
>
>I think that's true, at least in my experience, and I wonder why it is.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Jake Waskett
Dec 25, 2011, 4:53:12 PM12/25/11
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On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 08:59:45 -0800, Barry Simpson wrote:
> It should be obvious that, apart from medical necessity, proponents of
> genital mutilation are motivated by religious belief or malice.
Very possibly, but weren't we talking about circumcision instead?
> It should be obvious that, apart from medical necessity, proponents of
> genital mutilation are motivated by religious belief or malice.
windinghighway
Jan 2, 2012, 9:51:42 AM1/2/12
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An excellent suggestion that should be widely followed by anybody with
common sense!
Conversely, if it IS broke, then fixing it should certainly be
considered. That's common sense too.
Circumcision is and has always been the most common surgical procedure
on earth. Hundreds of millions of men and boys have had their
foreskins removed, in many radically different societies, on every
continent, throughout human history. They typically did so without
anesthetic, despite the pain involved: and without antibiotics,
despite the possibilities of sickness and even death from infection.
Today, a third of the male population of planet earth has had their
foreskins removed.
Clearly, there is something, or some things, about the foreskin that
people intensely dislike. There is no other organ on the human body
that has invited this reaction or anything like it.
It is fair to conclude, then, that much of humanity sees the foreskin
as "broke" and wants to "fix" it. In fact, if it were even easier
to remove the foreskin, we might suspect that even more of them would
be removed. (Let's face it, if the foreskin were a screw-on, screw-
off item, most men would probably take it off, forget to put it back
on, leave it lying around in a drawer somewhere, and eventually lose
it or forget about it!)
As to why the foreskin is broke, we may suspect that it evolved under
quite different circumstances, as a protection for the delicate penis
head of a naked animal whose sexual encounters were brutish and
short. But for centuries our kind has lived in a different world,
where other considerations are more important -- medical, esthetic,
hygienic, olfactory, and erotic. In such societies, what was
functional for a primitive beast became dysfunctional for a more
culturally evolved human. The foreskin is broke, and a great many
people see a reason to fix it.
common sense!
Conversely, if it IS broke, then fixing it should certainly be
considered. That's common sense too.
Circumcision is and has always been the most common surgical procedure
on earth. Hundreds of millions of men and boys have had their
foreskins removed, in many radically different societies, on every
continent, throughout human history. They typically did so without
anesthetic, despite the pain involved: and without antibiotics,
despite the possibilities of sickness and even death from infection.
Today, a third of the male population of planet earth has had their
foreskins removed.
Clearly, there is something, or some things, about the foreskin that
people intensely dislike. There is no other organ on the human body
that has invited this reaction or anything like it.
It is fair to conclude, then, that much of humanity sees the foreskin
as "broke" and wants to "fix" it. In fact, if it were even easier
to remove the foreskin, we might suspect that even more of them would
be removed. (Let's face it, if the foreskin were a screw-on, screw-
off item, most men would probably take it off, forget to put it back
on, leave it lying around in a drawer somewhere, and eventually lose
it or forget about it!)
As to why the foreskin is broke, we may suspect that it evolved under
quite different circumstances, as a protection for the delicate penis
head of a naked animal whose sexual encounters were brutish and
short. But for centuries our kind has lived in a different world,
where other considerations are more important -- medical, esthetic,
hygienic, olfactory, and erotic. In such societies, what was
functional for a primitive beast became dysfunctional for a more
culturally evolved human. The foreskin is broke, and a great many
people see a reason to fix it.
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Jack
Feb 12, 2012, 11:31:46 AM2/12/12
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On Dec 21 2011, 6:09 am, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 20, 5:46 pm, none <n...@ya.bus> wrote:
>
> > Wow. The ridiculous format of this posting alone made me killfile it
> > immediately. This is a creation of copy-paste idiot gone mad. Let
> > alone he prefers to have male children removed of their god-given
> > naturally formed protective skin.
>
> Even if he is a nut and a moron, that doesn't make him wrong on this
> issue. There are, come to think of it, far more crazy people
> advocating against circumcision than for it. There's one test I can
> think of that distinguishes male circumcision from all other body
> modifications - no one honestly thinks it's unattractive. That's
> right, circumcision is the one 'mutilation' that nobody can criticise
> aesthetically.
Thus spake Andrew Usher. But there is an endless stream of women on
> On Dec 20, 5:46 pm, none <n...@ya.bus> wrote:
>
> > Wow. The ridiculous format of this posting alone made me killfile it
> > immediately. This is a creation of copy-paste idiot gone mad. Let
> > alone he prefers to have male children removed of their god-given
> > naturally formed protective skin.
>
> Even if he is a nut and a moron, that doesn't make him wrong on this
> issue. There are, come to think of it, far more crazy people
> advocating against circumcision than for it. There's one test I can
> think of that distinguishes male circumcision from all other body
> modifications - no one honestly thinks it's unattractive. That's
> right, circumcision is the one 'mutilation' that nobody can criticise
> aesthetically.
youtube talking about how much they like the complete unaltered male
genitalia.
> Instead they have to invent lots of bullshit medical
> claims and sob stories about how it's SO painful to babies, as if that
> one moment of pain defines the rest of his life.
>
> Andrew Usher
There are some horrific videos/audios of this kind of torture being
imposed in a medical setting.
I can see why Windinghighway is here... he apparently has lost some
lover to HIV.
I can see why Jake is here... he has to justify his own decision to
cut off part of his penis.
Darrin is just a clown.
But you? Why are you here making proclaimations about aestheics and
pain, Andrew?
Jake Waskett
Feb 20, 2012, 5:57:55 AM2/20/12
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On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:31:46 -0800, Jack wrote:
> Thus spake Andrew Usher. But there is an endless stream of women on
> youtube talking about how much they like the complete unaltered male
> genitalia.
Amusing. So you think this is a representative sample, do you?
> Thus spake Andrew Usher. But there is an endless stream of women on
> youtube talking about how much they like the complete unaltered male
> genitalia.
Jack, *most* women (and men) do not make videos about their sexual
preferences and upload them to YouTube. I'm not saying that there's
anything wrong with doing so, but it is atypical behaviour. It's the
type of behaviour that indicates someone with an axe to grind: an anti-
circumcision activist, for example. And given that it's such an unusual
thing to do, it's especially inappropriate to extrapolate from these
women to the general population.
Jack
Feb 20, 2012, 10:53:31 AM2/20/12
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On Feb 20, 5:57 am, Jake Waskett <j...@waskett.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:31:46 -0800, Jack wrote:
> > Thus spake Andrew Usher. But there is an endless stream of women on
> > youtube talking about how much they like the complete unaltered male
> > genitalia.
>
> Amusing. So you think this is a representative sample, do you?
The idea that that a few Youtube videos could consititute a
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:31:46 -0800, Jack wrote:
> > Thus spake Andrew Usher. But there is an endless stream of women on
> > youtube talking about how much they like the complete unaltered male
> > genitalia.
>
> Amusing. So you think this is a representative sample, do you?
representative sample of much of anything is all you, Jake.
Andrew said: "That's right, circumcision is the one 'mutilation' that
nobody can criticise aesthetically." And, well, that's obviously
ridiculous. You clipped it from the discussion, though.
Jack
Feb 20, 2012, 11:04:46 AM2/20/12
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On Feb 20, 5:57 am, Jake Waskett <j...@waskett.org> wrote:
dripping wisdom. If someone has an axe to grind, perhaps you need to
consider yourself.
Jake Waskett
Feb 20, 2012, 3:38:39 PM2/20/12
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we've got that out the way, perhaps you'd care to address the fact that
I'm right?
Jack
Feb 21, 2012, 12:17:01 PM2/21/12
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burden to me. We both want you to be right. But I can see the deeper
human rights abuse that you have quite systematically blinded yourself
to. I would be willing to have 'peace talks' with you, with some
sense of good will. But you simply never acknowlege that some men are
truly bothered by what was done to them--or if you do acknowledge it,
it's with wry smirking eye rolling. Oh I know you Brits are masters
of dry wit, but now & then you ought to recognize that you're dealing
with real people with real feelings. I'm a jerk, too, sometimes. I
know it.
Jake Waskett
Feb 22, 2012, 11:33:18 AM2/22/12
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sexual preferences?
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