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GAYS PREFER CUT DICK

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DAVIDP111

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Jun 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/15/00
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It is an absolute fact that GAY men prefer CUT dick over UNcut. The porn
industry proves it.

Now and then a few guys do prefer an UNcut model in GAY porn. Then again, a
few GAYS like other forms of unusual and odd sexual stimulation such as scat,
bondage, piercings and abuse.


Dr. Solomon J. Coonie

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Jun 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/15/00
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In article <20000615075930...@ng-ct1.aol.com>,

I guess you mean American gay men? I have seen some pictures from
Europe that are uncut.
But, I also read of a queer wishing to recruit college men for videos.
The ad read, as I recall.. most be under 25, right weight height and
CUT.

--
What is more deafening than the sound of one hand clapping?


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NickT80

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Jun 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/15/00
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>davi...@aol.comnojunk (DAVIDP111)
wrote:

>It is an absolute fact that GAY men prefer CUT dick over UNcut. The porn
>industry proves it.

and your point? One of the biggest hurdles to the anti-circ movement is that
many people think that anti-circ = gay foreskin fetish. Thank you for posting
this. You've just proven them wrong. And I'm being totally serious.
Nick

wadi

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Jun 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/15/00
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NickT80 <nic...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20000615085644...@ng-cr1.aol.com.
..

Well of course "anti-circ = gay foreskin fetish".
What is clearly apparent is that it is a small
relentlessly prolific group of hard core
fetishists that form the core of the
anti-circ/pro-4skin movement.

THUG-14

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Jun 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/15/00
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I've never heard of ANY dick that gay men DIDN'T prefer.....PS: you
fags might be legal,
but you're not necessarily LIKED.

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Dr. Solomon J. Coonie

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Jun 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/16/00
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In article <12677-394...@storefull-115.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,

THU...@webtv.net (THUG-14) wrote:
> I've never heard of ANY dick that gay men DIDN'T prefer.....PS: you
> fags might be legal,
> but you're not necessarily LIKED.
>
>
I think its like this. Some women say they like cut dick others (most)
do-not care as its the man not his dick that is important.
However much gay sex does not have ANY emotional attachment. Its just
EAT that dick. Sick yes! But, the way I look at it many heterosexuals
are the same way!

auto...@nymserver.net

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Jun 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/17/00
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wadi wrote:
>
> Well of course "anti-circ = gay foreskin fetish".
> What is clearly apparent is that it is a small
> relentlessly prolific group of hard core
> fetishists that form the core of the
> anti-circ/pro-4skin movement.

Yet another stupid statement from the resident genetically inferior
South African Yiddish catamite.

wadi

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Jun 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/18/00
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<auto...@nymserver.net> wrote in message
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Well I guess a response like that serves to prove
my point.

athisdude

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Jun 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/24/00
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Good god yes. All gays love cut dicks as apposed to uncut dicks whether in
image or in real life. I know that every gay I've ever known did, including me.
By the way...
You wouldn't have any pictures of any would you???

=)

Dr. Coonie Street

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Jun 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/24/00
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In article <20000624054843...@ng-fa1.aol.com>,

The cut bananna for queer boys.. Jesus just go to any the the queer
sites and you'll get your fill of cut dicks.

--
Circumcision is the largest scale medical and ethics fraud of all time.

Rick B.

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Jun 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/24/00
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athisdude wrote:

> Good god yes. All gays love cut dicks as apposed to uncut dicks whether in
> image or in real life. I know that every gay I've ever known did, including me.
> By the way...
> You wouldn't have any pictures of any would you???
>
> =)

What total rubbish.

Another myth.

Some prefer it one way; some the other.

The vast majority don't really care what the optional attachments are.

Although quite a few want it to be big.

And many are fairly concerned as to whether its owner is HIV
negative and a physical demi-god.

Dr. Coonie Street

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Jun 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/25/00
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In article <39551B21...@sympatico.ca>,

Yes, that may be true. But, my counseling class we read a book (
autobiography) of a gay author for our class.
The man was a literary genius, and when he was in Europe, starved for
sex, he always shyed off until he met an American Marine with a
monsterous
circumcised dick. Size and body build do matter. But are you saying more
than circ status?

What does that say for American gays as a group?

Nothing?

What about the ads for models where CUT is a requirement?
What about the numerous gay photo postings where NOT one man in 50 is
intact?

NickT80

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>Dr. Coonie Street coon...@my-deja.com
wrote:

>What about the ads for models where CUT is a requirement?
>What about the numerous gay photo postings where NOT one man in 50 is
>intact?

YIKES Coonie! Settle down!! Thats a good thing. Dont fight it!! Too many people
that anti-circ = gay fetish for foreskin. I hope word does get around that gay
guys *vastly* prefer cut cock. It may or may not be true. In this case: WHO
CARES???

Dr. Coonie Street

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Jun 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/25/00
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In article <20000625183119...@ng-cn1.aol.com>,

Yes, it is. Now we need to declare normal penis is good for women and
will give them many more orgasms without chaffing.
I hope the broom handle guys don't get too paranoid, but intact is good
for men and women.. but despised by gays.

Maybe they're afraid of the oral aspects? A clean intact penis is better
for oral sex too. And the hygiene issue really is a red herring.

The Boy From Oz

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"athisdude" <athi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Good god yes. All gays love cut dicks as apposed to uncut dicks whether in
> image or in real life. I know that every gay I've ever known did,
including me.
> By the way...
> You wouldn't have any pictures of any would you???
>
> =)

I've got nothing against doughnut punchers, if they want to dance the
chocolate cha cha that's entirely their business.
I just find it a tad tedious that they're so bloody aggressive about it.

Serge.


Rick B.

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Jun 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/26/00
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"Dr. Coonie Street" wrote:

> In article <39551B21...@sympatico.ca>,
> "Rick B." <integrit...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > athisdude wrote:
> >

> > > Good god yes. All gays love cut dicks as apposed to uncut dicks
> whether in
> > > image or in real life. I know that every gay I've ever known did,
> including me.
> > > By the way...
> > > You wouldn't have any pictures of any would you???
> > >
> > > =)
> >

> > What total rubbish.
> >
> > Another myth.
> >
> > Some prefer it one way; some the other.
> >
> > The vast majority don't really care what the optional attachments are.
> >
> > Although quite a few want it to be big.
> >
> > And many are fairly concerned as to whether its owner is HIV
> > negative and a physical demi-god.
> >
>

> Yes, that may be true. But [in] my counseling class we read a book
> (autobiography) of a gay author for our class.
> The man was a literary genius and when he was in Europe, starved for


> sex, he always shyed off until he met an American Marine with a
> monsterous
> circumcised dick. Size and body build do matter. But are you saying more
> than circ status?

Why do many straight men want women with huge breasts and an
hourglass figure? Why do black men marry black women more often
than white ones? Why do Puerto Rican women often marry Puerto
Rican men? Why do some women only go for men with money.

It all has to do with sexual/emotional ideals which are formed quite
early in life -- usually early adolescence.

If your author learned to lust after huge clipped dick at 13, he may
never have grown beyond that. So? His loss. Why do you accept
his voice as universal just because it's in print?

>
> What about the ads for models where CUT is a requirement?

Who knows. Maybe they're photographing for Playgirl which has
editors who are remarkably bigoted about being clipped.

What about the films of Kristen Bjorn and Belami who tend to
recruit from almost anywhere EXCEPT the U.S.? Almost all
their "actors" are natural? The leaders for Belami films even
have a voice-over of "Big Uncut Dicks!"

Or, for straight films, check out the "European" section of your
video store. (Americans pay so much more than Canadians for
their porn and it's not nearly so broadly available.) Lots of
European videos never make it to the American market because
of the difference in television technology (PAL v. NTSC etc.)

As I've said before: it depends on what's available to the photographers.
Most of the guys willing to accept such jobs are in their 20's and
were born in the U.S. at a time when the circumcision rate was
high. And the photographers either have their own very personal
likes and dislikes or they're trying to cater to a market of men who
are either clipped themselves or of women who have known nothing
else.

It's not some kind of "inborn" preference. Just a matter of
a learned sexual response based on the prevalent material
and stereotypes.

Instead of writing about his own passions exclusively, your author
might have devoted a few paragraphs to the healthy outlook of all
those Europeans who see a complete penis as perfectly natural
and a clipped one as a religious or American "curiosity" but
one which doesn't intimidate or frighten them.

Probably, in 20-odd years, with the U.S. circ. rate what it is today,
we'll see not only more uncut models available for hire, but an
audience that is more receptive and, in a few cases, demanding
of the natural man.

>
> What about the numerous gay photo postings where NOT one man in 50 is
> intact?

50? Rubbish. Try hanging out on the Latino newsgroups. It will
make my point perfectly. Models with natural (and ungainly large)
penises are what's available. It's what the audience learned to
appreciate. It's known by the photographers to be in demand.
It's typically what gets posted.

Maybe in the U.S., in a few more years, we'll see more healthy,
mature and broader attitudes like many Europeans today. But, to
a large degree, it will be up to Americans to decide they WANT to
grow in their outlooks. And that's something that Americans are
not good at.

r.


Dr. Coonie Street

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Jun 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/26/00
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In article <39576766...@sympatico.ca>,
"Rick B." <integrit...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> "Dr. Coonie Street" wrote:
>
>
>
> Why do many straight men want women with huge breasts and an
> hourglass figure? Why do black men marry black women more often
> than white ones? Why do Puerto Rican women often marry Puerto
> Rican men? Why do some women only go for men with money.

If I were a gay or straight lover the only one of the above I would
understand at all is MONEY= MORE FUN


.
>
> What about the films of Kristen Bjorn and Belami who tend to
> recruit from almost anywhere EXCEPT the U.S.? Almost all
> their "actors" are natural? The leaders for Belami films even
> have a voice-over of "Big Uncut Dicks!"

Good point.. I wasn't aware of that.. but I guess a prejudice can cut
both ways?

> As I've said before: it depends on what's available to the
photographers.
> Most of the guys willing to accept such jobs are in their 20's and
> were born in the U.S. at a time when the circumcision rate was
> high. And the photographers either have their own very personal
> likes and dislikes or they're trying to cater to a market of men who
> are either clipped themselves or of women who have known nothing
> else.

Well that's true, but are you agreeing with me here?

> It's not some kind of "inborn" preference. Just a matter of
> a learned sexual response based on the prevalent material
> and stereotypes.


Yeah, and I'm beginning to think most of this planet is so F***ing
dumb they would all go over the cliffs of Dover if one lemming was a
Hollywood screen idol and lead the way.

.
>
> Probably, in 20-odd years, with the U.S. circ. rate what it is today,
> we'll see not only more uncut models available for hire, but an
> audience that is more receptive and, in a few cases, demanding
> of the natural man.
>

I hope you are right. The circ numbers if correct, would tend to say
in only a few years many more young intacts will be in films etc..
I can't say, we can only guess at this point.

> > What about the numerous gay photo postings where NOT one man in 50
is

Guess I'm not looking enough. I only looked at a few amateur pictures
on the usenet alt.binaries groups.
In the so called intact file, there is nothing intact and very few
postings.

wantitback99

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In article <20000615075930...@ng-ct1.aol.com>,

davi...@aol.comnojunk (DAVIDP111) wrote:
> It is an absolute fact that GAY men prefer CUT dick over UNcut. The
porn
> industry proves it.
>
> Now and then a few guys do prefer an UNcut model in GAY porn. Then
again, a
> few GAYS like other forms of unusual and odd sexual stimulation such
as scat,
> bondage, piercings and abuse.
>
>
WRONG!!!!! Give me a complete partner any day over a poor guy who has
had half his penis STOLEN! I don't consider mutilated penises to be
completely hideous, but they are DAMN UGLY - fact!!
--
Circumcision = torture & mutilation.

Dr. Coonie Street

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In article <8j97i8$fvc$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Look at it this way. Anyone who says it looks like an ant eater is just
jealous as hell. And, as well, when foreskin back, usually it takes an
expert to see the difference.

--
Circumcision is the largest scale medical and ethics fraud of all time.

wadi

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Dr. Coonie Street <coon...@my-deja.com> wrote in
message news:8jbbie$46j$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...

>
> And, as well, when foreskin back, usually it
takes an
> expert to see the difference.
>

I would have thought the smell would give the game
away?


maarten

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Gay men are individuals with individual interests, tastes, and preferences
in all areas of there lives. Some gay men do have a marked preference for a
circumcised or uncircumcised penis in the sex partners they choose, but most
gay men care about the quality of the overall sex and are indifferent to the
circumcision status of said partners.
The popularity of cut or uncut cocks in the gay media and erotica/porno
field is just another marketing tool to sell their products.
This thread has been a really empty one to read, and has little relevance to
the more important issues that circumcision raises.

Maarten


not me

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Jun 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/28/00
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Thanks for responding Dr. Coonie Street.
The original subject header implies that all gay men prefer cut dick by it's
wording. Based on my own experiences with American gay men, most are
certainly more familiar with cut cock, but when they come up here(Canada),
allot of them are certainly delighted to find all the foreskins. I really
don't think "addicted to circumcised cocks" is the correct way to put it,
but I do understand and appreciate your point.
I was just sick of seeing that subject header for the past week, so I felt
to put my two cents worth in.

Maarten

Dr. Coonie Street wrote in message
> Well, yes, no one ever said ALL gay men like cut cocks better.
>The issue is that most or by far American gay men like and are addicted
>to circumcised members.
>That's what's being said and I think based on my limited surfing of the
>web, believe that is quite correct.

Dr. Coonie Street

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In article <%Nv65.22681$Xe.5...@brie.direct.ca>,

Well, yes, no one ever said ALL gay men like cut cocks better.

wadi

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maarten <mjwd...@direct.ca> wrote in message
news:%Nv65.22681$Xe.5...@brie.direct.ca...

> Gay men are individuals with individual
interests, tastes, and preferences
> in all areas of there lives. Some gay men do
have a marked preference for a
> circumcised or uncircumcised penis in the sex
partners they choose, but most
> gay men care about the quality of the overall
sex and are indifferent to the
> circumcision status of said partners.
> The popularity of cut or uncut cocks in the gay
media and erotica/porno
> field is just another marketing tool to sell
their products.
> This thread has been a really empty one to read,
and has little relevance to
> the more important issues that circumcision
raises.
>
> Maarten
>

But you are wrong here Maarten ... most of the
boys who post in favour of the 4skin do so because
they have a peculiar fetish for the hideous thing
... they just can't help themselves.

not me

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That's your fantasy. Don't foist it on the rest of us.

wadi wrote in message <96230678...@proxy.lia.net>...

Dr. Coonie Street

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In article <vXz65.22697$Xe.5...@brie.direct.ca>,

"not me" <mjwd...@direct.ca> wrote:
> Thanks for responding Dr. Coonie Street.
> The original subject header implies that all gay men prefer cut dick
by it's
> wording. Based on my own experiences with American gay men, most are
> certainly more familiar with cut cock, but when they come up
here(Canada),
> allot of them are certainly delighted to find all the foreskins. I
really
> don't think "addicted to circumcised cocks" is the correct way to put
it,
> but I do understand and appreciate your point.
> I was just sick of seeing that subject header for the past week, so I
felt
> to put my two cents worth in.
>
> Maarten
>
> Dr. Coonie Street wrote in message
> > Well, yes, no one ever said ALL gay men like cut cocks better.
> >The issue is that most or by far American gay men like and are
addicted
> >to circumcised members.
> >That's what's being said and I think based on my limited surfing of

Well, not to be disrespectful or flippant as this GOD knows Connie
never is... (my nose itches)
Do you know of any gay men who like this northern wild penis type enough
to go to Canada on hoilidays and for vacations?
Actually if so this could bring a lot of new dollars into Canadian
banks.
Someone recently pointed out among gay men, their affluence is well
above that of the average American. i.e. they make, spend and HAVE more
money

maarten

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Yes, I do know of such gay Americans Coonie.
Tourism is the number one industry in my part of Canada; British Columbia.
Vancouver is one of the world's gay capitals, and so we do get a number of
gay American tourists, although I would be the first to acknowledge that the
number who are actually foreskin hounds spending their time in the obvious
places(Wreck Beach, bathhouses, etc.) to find what they are looking for, are
a small number.
Enough on that topic.

Maarten

maarten

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My comments on gay American tourists do not reflect on gay men's preferences
in any way.
I said that I personally have only met a few gay men who come here from the
US. with the specific hopes of finding uncut men to satisfy their
preference. Most do not particularly care about it.
I stick by what I said in my first posting on this matter, which is that
there is no general preference by gay men in this matter. We are all
individuals.
Happy Gay Pride Week Coonie and Wadi!!
My last words on this thread.

Maarten


Dr. Coonie Street

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Jun 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/30/00
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In article <TKS65.25$dN1....@brie.direct.ca>,

In other words gay men on average shun uncut and crave cuts.
O.K. I see. And this was the premise made way back in the beginning of
this LONG thread!

But, I am to understand Quebec is almost all la nautral.. except for the
Jews of Montreal and the surrounding hinderlands.
And I do agree enough said.

The point well proven I think, is anti-circs are not gay foreskin
fetishers. And, this was the second point made early in this thread.

Dr. Coonie Street

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In article <fnO65.23430$Xe.5...@brie.direct.ca>,

Don't mind Wads.. he is a South African Jew.. as rare as that salt
sucking creature on Star Trek that Dr. Crater tried to protect.

Rick B.

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"Dr. Coonie Street" wrote:

> In article <TKS65.25$dN1....@brie.direct.ca>,
> "maarten" <mjwd...@direct.ca> wrote:
> > Yes, I do know of such gay Americans Coonie.
> > Tourism is the number one industry in my part of Canada; British
> Columbia.
> > Vancouver is one of the world's gay capitals, and so we do get a
> number of
> > gay American tourists, although I would be the first to acknowledge
> that the
> > number who are actually foreskin hounds spending their time in the
> obvious
> > places(Wreck Beach, bathhouses, etc.) to find what they are looking
> for, are
> > a small number.
> > Enough on that topic.
> >
> > Maarten
> >
>
> In other words gay men on average shun uncut and crave cuts.
> O.K. I see. And this was the premise made way back in the beginning of
> this LONG thread!

In other words, no such thing. Your premise is not only
unfounded in the beginning, but trying to make that
conclusion out of what was posted can't be seen as much
more than twisting whatever others have said and
overlaying what you want to be true.

Anyway, it's not my job to convince you. Believe whatever
you want. Just don't go spouting it off as fact.

Another Canadian (who, BTW, almost had a cut boyfriend
from Quebec who wasn't Jewish.)

r.


Dr. Coonie Street

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In article <395C7FD1...@sympatico.ca>,

"Rick B." <integrit...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> "Dr. Coonie Street" wrote:
>
>
> Another Canadian (who, BTW, almost had a cut boyfriend
> from Quebec who wasn't Jewish.)
>
> r.
>

This would seem to indicate gay men get cut when they become sexually
active. I say this since it is quite well known Quebec has an almost
zero newborn circ rate. If this is true, it would add evidence to the
gay man circumcision connection?

However, if your lover was born before 70's the chance would have been
one in three of his being cut.

Dr. Coonie Street

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In article <6nX65.91$dN1....@brie.direct.ca>,
Hope you met that last statement no sarcastically. My state is the ONLY
one who has a law permitting civil unions between gay and lesbian
persons. It becomes law on July 1.

Rick B.

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"Dr. Coonie Street" wrote:

> In article <395C7FD1...@sympatico.ca>,
> "Rick B." <integrit...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > "Dr. Coonie Street" wrote:
> >
> >
> > Another Canadian (who, BTW, almost had a cut boyfriend
> > from Quebec who wasn't Jewish.)
> >
> > r.
> >
>
> This would seem to indicate gay men get cut when they become sexually
> active. I say this since it is quite well known Quebec has an almost
> zero newborn circ rate. If this is true, it would add evidence to the
> gay man circumcision connection?

Just what the fuck is your agenda here, Coonie?

Why do you have this obsessive need to prove a connexion
between being gay and preferring circumcised penises?

And why, when you say you're not gay, do you consider
yourself some sort of authority over those who are much
closer to where the action is?

Your problem.


And now, as usual, Coonie has to get in the last word:

not me

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I couldn't have said it better myself:)!
Happy Canada Day Rick!

Maarten

Rick B. wrote in message

craig wagner

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In article <lZ475.140$dN1....@brie.direct.ca>, "not me"
<mjwd...@direct.ca> wrote:

>I couldn't have said it better myself:)!
>Happy Canada Day Rick!

I'd like to second this. As the sole non-Canadian in my immediate family
(all of whom, oddly enough, flew into Vancouver to vacation in Washington
state!), I'd like to wish all Canadians a Happy Canada Day!

Craig

maarten

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Thanks Craig. Happy Canada Day to you too:)!

craig wagner wrote in message ...

Dr. Coonie Street

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In article <395CD7DA...@sympatico.ca>,

"Rick B." <integrit...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> "Dr. Coonie Street" wrote:
>
>
> And now, as usual, Coonie has to get in the last word:
>
No, call it the last snore.. ZZZZZZZZ!

Rick B.

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maarten wrote:

And likewise to you both! :-))

Rick
(exit, stage left, waving flags)

The Boy From Oz

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"Rick B." <integrit...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:39551B21...@sympatico.ca...

> athisdude wrote:
>
> > Good god yes. All gays love cut dicks as apposed to uncut dicks whether
in
> > image or in real life. I know that every gay I've ever known did,
including me.


Well that's another reason to NOT have your sons circumcised.

One can sleep at night knowing that the shirtlifters are more interested in
the cut boys.

Serge.

Paul Hagen

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In article <8jbbie$46j$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, Dr. Coonie Street
<coon...@my-deja.com> wrote:

> Look at it this way. Anyone who says it looks like an ant eater is just
> jealous as hell.

By the same logic, wouldn't anyone who says a circ'd penis looks
"mutilated" also just be jealous as hell?

> And, as well, when foreskin back, usually it takes an
> expert to see the difference.

Yup.

Paul Hagen

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Jul 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/9/00
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In article <395f...@pink.one.net.au>, "The Boy From Oz"
<serg...@one.net.au> wrote:

I don't think it's fair to generalize about gay men. Some DO prefer circ'd
cocks, but others prefer cocks with foreskins just as strongly. Just read
some gay personals ads. Every gay guy is different with respect to what
physical traits turn him on (just like every heterosexual guy).

As for the implication that gay men are pedophiles, most AREN'T (just like
their heterosexual counterparts). And when it comes to the (relatively
few) men who ARE pedophiles, I read somewhere that about 80% of all
reported child molesting cases involve heterosexual men and young GIRLS
(Rick B., I think you could probably back me up here).

Dr. Coonie Street

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In article <prhagen-0907...@port306.bitstream.net>,

Not quite. Its estimated only one in ten male-male child molestations
get reported. And even fewer of the female (adult) male molestations.

On average we can say without much chance of being wrong, North American
gay men prefer circumcised boys for their pray. Now, I agree that it is
unfair, as Dr. Luara has done, to accuse most gay men of preferring sex
with adolescent boys. She says 13,14..

In my estimation it is hard to go beyond 15 and say the older person is
the molester and that child molestation has taken place.
Young adults are very savvy and sexually aware these days.

Rick B.

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Jul 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/12/00
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Paul Hagen wrote:

>
> I don't think it's fair to generalize about gay men. Some DO prefer circ'd
> cocks, but others prefer cocks with foreskins just as strongly. Just read
> some gay personals ads. Every gay guy is different with respect to what
> physical traits turn him on (just like every heterosexual guy).
>
> As for the implication that gay men are pedophiles, most AREN'T (just like

> their heterosexual counterparts). And when it comes to the (relatively
> few) men who ARE pedophiles, I read somewhere that about 80% of all
> reported child molesting cases involve heterosexual men and young GIRLS
> (Rick B., I think you could probably back me up here).

I can't quote stats but I remember hearing something from
quite awhile ago along those lines.

Because I've worked with community organizations, I've
met a lot of gay men over the years. I've only known
one who "liked 'em young", but that was in the range of
15-17 and one other who liked actual boys.

I have nothing against seeing a picture of a naked boy
myself but NOT in sexual activity and it's more from
a wistful "I remember when I felt that innocent".
But I couldn't get turned on by it if I tried. It's
got nothing to do with sex but a lot of people who
WANT to find something wrong with that would
insist up and down that it does. I think that that's
partly to "blame" for seeing pedophilia where it
doesn't exist -- even moreso if it's perceived as
happening in an already despised group like gays.
Probably the same thing in the views of nudism,
group sex and SM/BD.

"They all immoral, doncha know!"

As for the stats about higher percentages of child
interest in hets versus gays, it would be no surprise.
In my opinion the motivation behind the two is
entirely different. In the het scene it's usually
about controlling someone who can't fight back;
I believe it's something else when it happens in
gay men.


r.


maarten

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Well said Rick! Thank you!

Maarten

magicm...@gmail.com

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On Thursday, June 15, 2000 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, DAVIDP111 wrote:
> It is an absolute fact that GAY men prefer CUT dick over UNcut. The porn
> industry proves it.
>
> Now and then a few guys do prefer an UNcut model in GAY porn. Then again, a
> few GAYS like other forms of unusual and odd sexual stimulation such as scat,
> bondage, piercings and abuse.

I definitely prefer cut over uncut. I was forced to suck a neighbor boy's uncut cock when I was young,and the experience was horrible. Both in smell and taste of uncut. That sensory memory will always be with me. I always make sure my partners are cut and clean.

Oliver

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On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 6:40:16 PM UTC-5, magicm...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> I definitely prefer cut over uncut. I was forced to suck a neighbor boy's uncut cock when I was young,and the experience was horrible. Both in smell and taste of uncut. That sensory memory will always be with me. I always make sure my partners are cut and clean.

Yes the smell is so foul that it doesn't take much to give a lifelong aversion to uncircumcised penises.

Im a gay New Yorker and I don't know ANY gays who prefer uncut (though of course there are some smegma queens out there). We try to be polite if we know there are any uncuts in our company, but otherwise any mention of uncut dick will reliably produce comments like "eew" "gross" "ugh" "disgusting" etc.

tom545

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On Thursday, June 15, 2000 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, DAVIDP111 wrote:
> It is an absolute fact that GAY men prefer CUT dick over UNcut. The porn
> industry proves it.
>
> Now and then a few guys do prefer an UNcut model in GAY porn. Then again, a
> few GAYS like other forms of unusual and odd sexual stimulation such as scat,
> bondage, piercings and abuse.

No way.... Most prefer uncut.

Uckister777

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Nov 27, 2017, 2:47:13 PM11/27/17
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I'm gay and I have NEVER met another gay who prefers an uncut sex parter to a cut sex parter although I am sure some do exist.

Come on what's to like about uncut? Not much --

They are ugly
They stink
They spread disease

End of argument.

mehdi...@gmail.com

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On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 2:47:13 AM UTC+7, Uckister777 wrote:

> I'm gay and I have NEVER met another gay who prefers an uncut sex parter to a cut sex parter although I am sure some do exist.

> Come on what's to like about uncut? Not much --
> They are ugly
> They stink
> They spread disease

> End of argument.

True, and it's not just a matter of preference. It's often a matter of active dislike, even disgust. Many gays absolutely will not have sex with an uncircumcised man , usually because of the smell. Very few have a disgusted reaction to a circumcised penis because really there is nothing there to be disgusted about!

David Edwards

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I wont have sex with uncuts. I always ask first n if hes uncut, forget it. They all say theirs doesnt stink.

But it always does.

oogl...@gmail.com

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Apr 19, 2018, 7:39:19 AM4/19/18
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A lot of people think uncut guys are disgusting

Atlantaboi

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On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 7:39:19 AM UTC-4, oogl...@gmail.com wrote:

> A lot of people think uncut guys are disgusting


They ARE disgusting!! My first sex experience was with an uncut and the disgust has never left me. I feel queasy just seeing uncut cock. I know uncut guys who don't want to have sex with other uncut guys!!

Oliver

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Yep a single experience with uncut dock is enough to turn many guys off for life. Some of us tried two or three or even more just hoping that the smell and other problems were unique to the individuals and not generic to all uncut cock. Eventually you figure out that you are going to be turned off by all uncut cocks and you just start to avoid them.

francescola...@gmail.com

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Not just gays women too It is not pleasant to do oral sex on a penis with skin over it getting in the way and maybe smelling bad when it pulls back. The smooth shaft of circumcised is preferred. Also during sexual intercourse uncircumcised men are often just having sex inside their foreskin because even in intercourse their penis is covered or mostly covered by foreskin. Which is dull as any woman with experience of both will tell you (if her uncircumcised partner is not around, she can never tell him his penis is not satisfying) Also condoms just don't work with uncircumcised men,they get all bunched up or fall off.

hayb...@gmail.com

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May 28, 2018, 9:35:45 PM5/28/18
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On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 2:13:44 PM UTC+3, Oliver wrote:

> Yep a single experience with uncut dock is enough to turn many guys off for life. Some of us tried two or three or even more just hoping that the smell and other problems were unique to the individuals and not generic to all uncut cock. Eventually you figure out that you are going to be turned off by all uncut cocks and you just start to avoid them.
>

I had one experience when I was a boy. He was french tourist in Egypt. I had sex with boys before but never saw uncircumcised.. He offered money and I was poor. We went to the rocks on the beach. It was so ugly and smelled like fish. I ran away. I did not get the money. :(

Parker

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On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 8:29:27 AM UTC+1, francescola...@gmail.com wrote:

> Not just gays women too It is not pleasant to do oral sex on a penis with skin over it getting in the way and maybe smelling bad when it pulls back.

Yep. Women much prefer my cock since I got circed. No more gagging on it and no more excuses for not sucking it. The diff in hygiene is like night and day and sex esp oral sex is MUCH better.

bearje...@gmail.com

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Jun 4, 2018, 9:29:50 PM6/4/18
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On Thursday, June 15, 2000 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, DAVIDP111 wrote:

> It is an absolute fact that GAY men prefer CUT dick over UNcut. The porn
> industry proves it.
>
> Now and then a few guys do prefer an UNcut model in GAY porn. Then again, a few GAYS like other forms of unusual and odd sexual stimulation such as scat, bondage, piercings and abuse.

REPLY:
I am not so sure that is true because lots of porn is made in Europe where circumcision is not common, also some in Asia and South America where circumcision is not common. You really can't tell much difference between an an intact and cut erect penis, depending on the view and the action.

Jordan

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Jul 3, 2018, 4:35:39 AM7/3/18
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Maybe if you are from an uncircumcised country you can accept it, not me from a circumcised country. The first time I knew uncircumcised was in Belgium 2016. I was curious but when I tried to have sex I had to stop. What they say about smell is true but just to look at it turned me away. We circumcise for good reasons!

tom545

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On Thursday, June 15, 2000 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, DAVIDP111 wrote:
> It is an absolute fact that GAY men prefer CUT dick over UNcut. The porn
> industry proves it.
>
> Now and then a few guys do prefer an UNcut model in GAY porn. Then again, a
> few GAYS like other forms of unusual and odd sexual stimulation such as scat,
> bondage, piercings and abuse.

The foreskin is the most nerve rich area of the penis. Once its gone it reduces sensation and sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure that was yours as a birthright. It prevents the normal functioning of the penis.

Parker

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On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 4:06:45 AM UTC+1, tom545 wrote:

> The foreskin is the most nerve rich area of the penis. Once its gone it reduces sensation and sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure that was yours as a birthright. It prevents the normal functioning of the penis.



What a load of twaddle! ! never had the slightest pleasure from my foreskin, it was just a damn nuisance. Sex is much better since I got circed, especially oral. I was working as bartender before and after my circ and all the regulars knew about it and we often talked about it. I got asked all sorts of questions but not not once did a man ask if I was worried about losing pleasure if I got circed. And this being England almost all of them are uncircumcised. From what i can see most uncirced men don't give a damn about their foreskin one way or the other. Those that do care mostly have problems with their foreskins like the usual ones, Which are, it hurts when they have sex or try to retract it, or, the smell turns their partners off.

Only a few fetisihists have this thing about foreskins and thats prob because they have some neuro defect in the rest of their dick that makes them think their foreskin is the best part they have.

Of course there are nerves in the foreskin but nerves don't = pleasure, it depends what the nerves are for! Foreskin nerves are there because it evolved to protect the sensitive head of the dick from insects and sharp thorns and bee stings or whatever else was around with us for millions of years. So foreskin nerves are pinprick specialized to alert the brain of anything harmful coming near the head of the dick. There are different nerves for pleasure are in the shaft and head of the dick. We don't need a useless overhang of skin to protect us now because we have clothes instead.

I don't know how many times its pointed out in alt.circ that hundreds of millions of men have been circed in adolescence or later so they know the diff between before and after. If there was really a loss of sensation they would have been rioting in the streets! They don't because they are like me and think they are much better off. And they want their boys to be circed too which I will do if I have boys. Period.

Dubbs

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On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 2:54:08 PM UTC+4, Parker wrote:

>
I don't know how many times its pointed out in alt.circ that hundreds of millions of men have been circed in adolescence or later so they know the diff between before and after. If there was really a loss of sensation they would have been rioting in the streets! They don't because they are like me and think they are much better off. And they want their boys to be circed too which I will do if I have boys. Period.


In Africa more than 18 million men have been circumcised to reduce risk of AIDS infection. World Health Organization recommends this and they volunteer to have if done. If it spoiled their sex life the first few would have warned the others but they don't, they tell others how great it is which is why millions more ask for it.

https://www.avert.org/professionals/hiv-programming/prevention/voluntary-medical-male-circumcision

olgacof...@gmail.com

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Circumcised partner is best

Sven

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Nov 30, 2018, 4:56:07 PM11/30/18
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Den söndag 18 november 2018 kl. 00:16:21 UTC+3 skrev olgacof...@gmail.com:
> Circumcised partner is best

I am gay and had foreskin problems (pain with erection, hard to retract) so sex/hygiene was difficult. I grew up in uncircumnised country but then my family moved to a circumcised and the problems got worse because everybody preferred circumcsed. Finally i was circumcised. I have a circumcisdd boyfriend now....

travis...@royallepage.ca

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I can tell you in Canada there is absolutely zero preference in the gay world for cut or uncut . I’m personally uncut and I have guys begging me to suck my cock. Im very hygienic and clean , and have always had a line up of hot guys. Uncut is hugely popular here and considered exotic. Even my US gay friends tell me that a nice uncut dick is very much desired in their communities. In Europe and South America uncut is highly popular and desired. I don’t know where you guys live but I’m sorry about your bad experiences with uncut . I personally find foreskin very hot , especially on a big thick member.

travis...@royallepage.ca

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Nov 30, 2018, 9:20:14 PM11/30/18
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Where the hell do you live ? In Canada the gay guys LOVE uncut dick

cruig...@gmail.com

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On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 5:17:29 AM UTC+3, travis...@royallepage.ca wrote:

"I can tell you in Canada there is absolutely zero preference in the gay world for cut or uncut

TRANSLATION:

I know jack shit about the preferences of the million + gay men in Canada so I'll just make up a numberr....zero will do,,

_________________

"I’m personally uncut and I have guys begging me to suck my cock. Im very hygienic and clean , and have always had a line up of hot guys."


TRANSLATION:

My uncut dick stinks of stale piss and gorgonzola just like other uncut guys, but occasionally I find a smegma pig who is willing to put it in his mouth.

________________


"Uncut is hugely popular here and considered exotic. Even my US gay friends tell me that a nice uncut dick is very much desired in their communities. In Europe and South America uncut is highly popular and desired."

TRANSLATION:

Im such a foreskin fetishist that I am very very comfortable pontificating about preferences in places and countries I've never been and know nothing about.

_________________

cruig...@gmail.com

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On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 5:20:14 AM UTC+3, travis...@royallepage.ca wrote:

> Where the hell do you live ? In Canada the gay guys LOVE uncut dick

That's strange. I used to visit Montreal regularly where almost all the guys are uncut. But they kept telling me how they loved cut and sought out visiting Americans for that reason.

The difference between you and me is that I know that my experience is only MY experience and I don't try to generalize to an entire nation.


I just did a search to see if there's actually any factual evidence on Canadian preferences but couldn't find anything for gay men. I did find information on Canadian women in a survey. 42 percent had a "strong preference" for circumcised men, while only 7 percent preferred uncircumcised men. Frankly I'm not surprised.


https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/articles/199411/mens-bodies-the-survey m

nuran...@gmail.com

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Jan 13, 2019, 5:16:27 AM1/13/19
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Just one word: SMEGMA

Ozzboi

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On Sunday, 13 January 2019 21:16:27 UTC+11, nuran...@gmail.com wrote:

> Just one word: SMEGMA

I'm gay and uncut and I prefer cut. Where I live most guys are uncut so I had all uncut experience until I was 22. Then I had a cut guy and it's just way better for sex. In my opinion anyway. That's two years ago. I always say on the apps now that I want cut only. BUT most of those guys don't want uncut :(
Me and a mate also uncut are checking out what circumcision would cost and whats involved (that's how i found this site). Cant beat em so join em! By 25th birthday I want that to be my present to me.

tvd...@outlook.com

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On Thursday, 17 January 2019 06:30:20 UTC+10:30, Ozzboi wrote:

>
> I'm gay and uncut and I prefer cut. Where I live most guys are uncut so I had all uncut experience until I was 22. Then I had a cut guy and it's just way better for sex. In my opinion anyway. That's two years ago. I always say on the apps now that I want cut only. BUT most of those guys don't want uncut :(

If youre from Australia as your name suggests I don't know why you cant find circumcised guys. Only about 10 percent of babies are circumcised in Australia now but its much more common in older groups, about 20 percent in men aged 20-30 and higher after that. Obviously they are in more demand than circumcised but there must be some who don't mind uncircumcised. Youre right that if you get circumcised you will be more popular on grindr and other apps. Nobody refuses a guy because hes circumcised.

Agnus O'Flock

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On Saturday, 18 February 2017 00:38:28 UTC+13, Oliver wrote:

> Yes the smell is so foul that it doesn't take much to give a lifelong aversion to uncircumcised penises.


I'd heard rumours but the the first time I thought, Maybe it's just the boy I'm with. The second time I thought, OK maybe I got unlucky twice in a row. The third time, I decided--- THAT'S IT NEVER AGAIN!


Carlosbar...@outlook.com

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Apr 1, 2019, 6:29:50 AM4/1/19
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i am gay uncircumcised. i like only circumcised men

martinus

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Apr 13, 2019, 1:55:54 PM4/13/19
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Op maandag 1 april 2019 11:29:50 UTC+1 schreef Carlosbar...@outlook.com:

> i am gay uncircumcised. i like only circumcised men


In Europe everywhere the arab rent boys have replaced the euro rent boys. Clients are uncircumcised older euro men but they pay for circumcised arab rent boys. Amsterdam, Berlin, Roma, Marseilles, Brusel,it is all the same, the boys in those bars are all arab now.

amat...@gmail.com

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On Monday, April 1, 2019 at 12:29:50 PM UTC+2, Carlosbar...@outlook.com wrote:
> i am gay uncircumcised. i like only circumcised men

I am also uncircumsed like most men in my country Italia. After sex with a circumcised American in 2015 I like circumcised much more but it is difficult here!

guidoam...@gmail.com

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Il giorno lunedì 27 novembre 2017 20:47:13 UTC+1, Uckister777 ha scritto:

> Come on what's to like about uncut? Not much --

> They are ugly
> They stink
> They spread disease

> End of argument.

Yes I do not understand why a gay man may prefer uncut. Only from ignorance I think if that is all they know.

Henry Thaler

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May 11, 2019, 12:01:43 PM5/11/19
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Women also have a very strong preference for circumcised males. Their reasons are very similar to the reasons gay men prefer circumcised.

This information comes from a new review of international studies of women's preferences for circumcised v uncircumcised partners. It found that women have a very strong preference for circumcised men, quote:

"In the overwhelming majority of studies, women expressed a preference for the circumcised penis. The main reasons given for this preference were better appearance, better hygiene, reduced risk of infection, and enhanced sexual activity, including vaginal intercourse, manual stimulation, and fellatio".

This preference exists regardless of the circumcision rate in the various countries.

You can read the original report in the Journal of Sexual Medicine: https://www.smoa.jsexmed.org/article/S2050-1161(19)30031-5/fulltext#sec6

Oiiver

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Jun 12, 2019, 1:17:27 PM6/12/19
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Face it, nobody likes uncut dick except ignoramuses, foreskin fetishists, and smegma queens.

K.Williams

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Jul 14, 2019, 10:35:19 AM7/14/19
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My son is gay and has thanked me several times for having him circumcised right after his birth. He says that it is a huge disadvantage to be uncircumcised in the gay community (in USA anyway). I had him circumcised so that he would not have to endure the misery I went through as an uncircumcised boy. The discomfort pain and hygiene issues undermined my emotional and sexual self confidence as an adolescent. My parents would not pay for the operation so I saved up the money myself and had it done at age 19 and that was one of the best days of my life. I date my sexual and romantic life from that day.

Brasil Barry

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Aug 6, 2019, 7:32:03 AM8/6/19
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In Brazil where men are uncircumcised almost all gay hookups and sex is in the <saunas> or bath houses. This way the penis is continually washed to stop the smell. The saunas are like hotels with rooms and restaurants and even gyms in some. This is where gay men go to meet others because especially in hot cities like Rio, Bahia, Belem, mens penis stink very soon after they wash. So right before sex and even in breaks of sex activity the men bathe their penis.

Casaman

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Sep 30, 2019, 3:59:58 AM9/30/19
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Many surveys (cited here in alt.circ) show that women also prefer circumcised penises -- overwhelmingly!

judith_...@hotmail.com

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Dec 19, 2019, 1:33:53 PM12/19/19
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On Monday, September 30, 2019 at 1:59:58 AM UTC-6, Casaman wrote:
> Many surveys (cited here in alt.circ) show that women also prefer circumcised penises -- overwhelmingly!

In my experience the only women who say they like uncircumcised are women who do not have experience of circumcised. I could never have a relationship with an uncircumcised man, no matter how much you like him you can't have a good sexual relationship if you dislike his penis.

Pat Lastingham

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Feb 19, 2020, 1:17:49 PM2/19/20
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On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 1:33:53 PM UTC-5, judith_...@hotmail.com wrote:

>
> In my experience the only women who say they like uncircumcised are women who do not have experience of circumcised. I could never have a relationship with an uncircumcised man, no matter how much you like him you can't have a good sexual relationship if you dislike his penis.

Judith -- I am very familiar with the research. There are NO reputable studies that show that women prefer uncircumcised penises. They ALL show a preference for circumcised.

Darrin T

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Pat, Judith is in sole agreement with you! Please re-read her above response. -D, "A London Times survey by Dr. T. Stuttaford found that among experienced women and prostitutes, 90% preferred sex with circumcised men because it was more hygenic and pleasurable".."Can I just talk about one other issue that I had? I am almost hesitant to say this...because I am not gay..I'm not looking at other guys..but the whole uncircumcised thing..when they're doing close-ups..it's just...that's a whole other issue...it's just disgusting!" eh - GARY DELL'ABATE, aka BABY-BOOEY, Howard Stern Show producer

Darrin T

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On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 7:32:03 AM UTC-4, Brasil Barry wrote:

> In Brazil where men are uncircumcised almost all gay hookups and sex is in the <saunas> or bath houses. This way the penis is continually washed to stop the smell. The saunas are like hotels with rooms and restaurants and even gyms in some. This is where gay men go to meet others because especially in hot cities like Rio, Bahia, Belem, mens penis stink very soon after they wash. So right before sex and even in breaks of sex activity the men bathe their penis.

There's a wonderful documentary on Tubi (always free) about Brazilian prostitutes, "Beaches of Brazil." IIRC, one of the prostitutes said that she loves American Johns because she knows that they are circumcised and clean. -D, "To perfect the world ("Tikun Olam") is in Jewish thought - the obligation of every human being. Where better to begin than by fixing God's goof of foreskin?" - YOURS TRULY.."Life insurance companies should class wearers of the prepuce under the head of a hazardous risk" - MEDICAL WRITER UNKNOWN

craigle...@gmail.com

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Mar 21, 2020, 9:20:33 PM3/21/20
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On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 7:29:32 PM UTC-6, Darrin T wrote::

> There's a wonderful documentary on Tubi (always free) about Brazilian prostitutes, "Beaches of Brazil." IIRC, one of the prostitutes said that she loves American Johns because she knows that they are circumcised and clean.

For sure. Just think about it, Most of the guys these hookers serve just come off work all sweaty and don't bother to wash their digusting cocks. How tose girls can go down on something like looks like its covered in put and stinks like a dead animal i dont know, i feel really sorry for them.

Wakka

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Jun 8, 2020, 5:19:55 AM6/8/20
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On Friday, 17 February 2017 11:38:28 UTC, Oliver wrote:


> Im a gay New Yorker and I don't know ANY gays who prefer uncut (though of course there are some smegma queens out there). We try to be polite if we know there are any uncuts in our company, but otherwise any mention of uncut dick will reliably produce comments like "eew" "gross" "ugh" "disgusting" etc.

This is a very American view! In Scandinavia where all men (except muslims and jews) are circumcised nobody would say such things because uncircumcised is normal.

CanadaLad

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Nov 21, 2020, 9:13:35 AM11/21/20
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And not just gays.

One of my nephews was uncircumcised. Like many such unfortunates he had repeated urinary tract infections as a child, as a teenager, and as a young man. On several occasions these infections got to his kidneys causing serious illness with crippling fatigue and raging fevers. Eventually his doctors suggested circumcision, which was accomplished when he was 24 years old. He has had no UTIs since then -- but his kidneys are permanently damaged. He now has stage 3 Chronic Kidney Disease which is incurable and has a high risk of progressing to complete kidney failure.

This nephew is heterosexual and was married after his circumcision. He has two sons now and both are circumcised.

Oliver

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May 11, 2021, 4:52:05 PM5/11/21
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I wonder how many millions of uncircumcised boys have died during the course of history of UTI infections that became lethal.

Dabunny Rabbit

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Aug 1, 2021, 8:40:24 PM8/1/21
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well as a lgbtq member I can say thats totaly false lol.
but in the end
the bottom line is, its not yours period.
you have no right as a parent or otherwise to have someone held down and remove part of their genitals no matter how clean or religious you think it is.
children can't consent to sex, but cutting off part of it for no reason or concept of whats being done is ok... honestly!!!
under that same logic then I should be able to have someone held down and their ears cut off because I think it would be healthier and cleaner for them. (or the skin cancer they might get)

circumcision has no effect on how much teens masturbate, teens are gonna do it and do it a lot regardless.

not to mention that there were 2 doctors in the US that claimed it cured a host of bizarre ailments (including epilepsy and rheumatism) and when people figured out that was a crock, they claimed it prevented masturbation. and in the religious society it took off once more.
it's not about what you want its about what the individual wants
so in conclusion circumcision is a violation of someone's human rights and bodily integrity and there is nothing anyone can say that will make it ok.
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